o2 handset opinions - Sony Xperia 1 II Questions & Answers

I have a 02 handset ordered to use on three uk as its £799 instead of £1099
Has anyone got the o2 version and can help
Is it unbranded ?
Using none o2 carrier sim does anything not work ?
What are o2 like for firmware updates?
Does 5g work on handset even if using none o2 sim
Has anyone got wifi calling to work on none o2 sim
I am still in two minds to cancel and either buy s20 plus or get the unlocksd version but wonder if £300 is worth the difference between none o2 and o2 version
Thanks

mancuk29 said:
I have a 02 handset ordered to use on three uk as its £799 instead of £1099
Has anyone got the o2 version and can help
Is it unbranded ?
Using none o2 carrier sim does anything not work ?
What are o2 like for firmware updates?
Does 5g work on handset even if using none o2 sim
Has anyone got wifi calling to work on none o2 sim
I am still in two minds to cancel and either buy s20 plus or get the unlocksd version but wonder if £300 is worth the difference between none o2 and o2 version
Thanks
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Only text seems to be working using a three sim

I don't see any O2 things on mine, other than a few O2 apps installed and chrome had O2 as the homepage.
I put my missus Vodafone sim in and all works. I've actually got one arriving today, as the signal is better on Vodafone where I am.
My phone said update for WiFi calling, but I don't know how to make it work, so can't help on that one. It certainly said it installed something though.
I can test more rigorously with the Vodafone sim tonight, if you want anything specific done?

Rodders_28 said:
I don't see any O2 things on mine, other than a few O2 apps installed and chrome had O2 as the homepage.
I put my missus Vodafone sim in and all works. I've actually got one arriving today, as the signal is better on Vodafone where I am.
My phone said update for WiFi calling, but I don't know how to make it work, so can't help on that one. It certainly said it installed something though.
I can test more rigorously with the Vodafone sim tonight, if you want anything specific done?
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You won't have VoLTE or VoWiFi working with a Vodafone SIM on an O2 firmware. You can see this by dialling *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information
Just flash the Customized UK firmware.

Ok, something to look at on the weekend! Cheers

Rodders_28 said:
I don't see any O2 things on mine, other than a few O2 apps installed and chrome had O2 as the homepage.
I put my missus Vodafone sim in and all works. I've actually got one arriving today, as the signal is better on Vodafone where I am.
My phone said update for WiFi calling, but I don't know how to make it work, so can't help on that one. It certainly said it installed something though.
I can test more rigorously with the Vodafone sim tonight, if you want anything specific done?
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Interesting. I got my phone from O2 as well and had nothing O2 preinstalled.

mancuk29 said:
I have a 02 handset ordered to use on three uk as its £799 instead of £1099
Has anyone got the o2 version and can help
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Yes
Is it unbranded ?
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Yes - black version.
Using none o2 carrier sim does anything not work ?
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Everything seems to work - I'm using my EE SIM.
What are o2 like for firmware updates?
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I don't think it's O2, I have had updates and I think they come from Sony via the android update system.
Does 5g work on handset even if using none o2 sim
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Yes, although my 5G speed on EE is not very impressive, it seems to be about the same as 4G (approx 30-40Gbs - which is actually okay generally, but way short of the advertised 150) . The phone shows a 5G connection however in the status bar.
Has anyone got wifi calling to work on none o2 sim
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Haven't tried. Whatsapp is fine.
I am still in two minds to cancel and either buy s20 plus or get the unlocksd version but wonder if £300 is worth the difference between none o2 and o2 version
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I bought mine from O2 by paying the full amount for the phone (£799) with a 1-month 1GB contract to O2 - an extra £18 for the contract but it's one month only and then you can cancel the SIM, but a much cheaper phone, and got the free headphones too.

Buddy have your headphones arrived.
I am still waiting for my even though my claim has been validated.
thanks.
I bought mine from O2 by paying the full amount for the phone (£799) with a 1-month 1GB contract to O2 - an extra £18 for the contract but it's one month only and then you can cancel the SIM, but a much cheaper phone, and got the free headphones too.[/QUOTE]

Just got my o2 Unit anyone having Signal reception issues? I'm often seeing 0-1bars and having no data or very slow speeds wasn't an issue with my previous phone.
Monitored with Signal Spy and getting -100dBm sometimes -110 depending where I go. I'll see what o2 says about it.

peritoo said:
Yes, although my 5G speed on EE is not very impressive, it seems to be about the same as 4G (approx 30-40Gbs - which is actually okay generally, but way short of the advertised 150) . The phone shows a 5G connection however in the status bar
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To be fair I get a bit more than that on o2

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Heading to Ireland... sim unlock question

ok, hopefully I wont get flamed but havent found the 5 y/o answers than I need.... I have a Tilt with AT&T, Im using an WM6.0 Alex ROM (may switch to Duttys)... Ill be heading to Ireland this weekend for a week and I wanted to make sure I understood exactly how I can use my phone when Im over there...
I know how I can get the code for Sim Unlocking the phone but I was curious about where I should get the new sim card and how rates will apply for me when Im over there...
Assuming I get the unlock code from AT&T:
1. Where should I purchase the sim card to use in Ireland?
2. Do I need to call AT&T to get an international plan for any reason?
3. What carrier would I be using while Im in Ireland?
4. What rates would apply for me calling the US or in country?
Any help would be appreciated... applying flame retardant gel now... go...
1. Go to Ireland local phone retailers to buy a SIM card.
2. No. If you don't want to receive call from your America phone #.
3. Your choice.
4. Once you pick the carrier, go to their website to see the rates.
It kinda makes me sad how people are afraid to make new threads now..
makes me wonder which direction web-forums are going.
Sorry, little OT
Your US Tilt should work fine with no change in SIM card, though the local calling rates will probably be a lot higher. I just got back from a swing through about 5 or 6 European countries (including the UK, but not Ireland) with my US Tilt and I was able to make and receive calls in all of them.
AT&T does offer a $5/mo International plan that cuts 20% or so off the per minute rates, but I didn't bother signing up for it as I expected to make only a few calls.
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Your US Tilt should work fine with no change in SIM card, though the local calling rates will probably be a lot higher. I just got back from a swing through about 5 or 6 European countries (including the UK, but not Ireland) with my US Tilt and I was able to make and receive calls in all of them.
AT&T does offer a $5/mo International plan that cuts 20% or so off the per minute rates, but I didn't bother signing up for it as I expected to make only a few calls.
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So do I even need to sim unlock it then?
if you are planning to use your own sim card in ireland and pay the roaming rates then you will not need to sim unlock your phone and you will be contactable on your current phone number.
if however you decide to purchase a sim card in ireland, you will have to sim unlock your phone. I know that this is meant to be relatively straightforward but I never had to do it.
If you decide to get an irish sim card you have the following options:
Meteor: http://www.meteor.ie/personal/pay_as_you_go/price_plans/
o2: http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Personal/Price+plans/Speakeasy+prepay/O2+Experience
Vodafone: http://www.vodafone.ie/planscosts/prepay/current/
There are 2 other operators in ireland, tesco and 3 but they are very unpopular. I'm currently with o2 which offers the best value for me. If you want a relatively unbiased view go to the carphone warehouse as they sell all brands of sim-card and will recommend the most suitable
Whatever you do don't connect to the internet whilst in ireland except using wi-fi as data costs are ridiculous.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
regards
Séamus, one of the few Irish members
If I get a sim in Ireland, will that give me a new number that works on that network?
jpofsc said:
If I get a sim in Ireland, will that give me a new number that works on that network?
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It will be like totally dumping AT$T, number and all, and switching to a brand new carrier
denco7 said:
It will be like totally dumping AT$T, number and all, and switching to a brand new carrier
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Would that cancel my AT&T account then?
jpofsc said:
Would that cancel my AT&T account then?
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Not unless you cancel it. It would look to them as if your phone was off while you were using another SIM card.
So it sounds like I should only use an Ireland sim card if I plan to do a lot of local calling... If I only plan on calling US numbers then I should just keep my AT&T sim card and pay the international rates... is this correct?
Im going to take no response as a yes...
You'll be charged 1.29 per minuite or .99 cents depending on your plan with AT&T no matter where you call.
You can check via: http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/roaming_drop_down.jsp?PIDL=IRSD|IRWT

I'm so sorry this has to be my first post..

Hey XDA - I've been a browser forever, but I just signed up;
because I am in diiiiiiiiire need of some help.
I'm really sorry this has to be my first thread.
I promise I'm not a troll, and I promise I'll contribute as
much as I possibly can!
I have a situation I am in -
I currently have a Nexus One, on T-Mobile U.S.
It's completely stock, no hacks or roots, mods or anything.
To make a long story short - I'll be switching phones and providers soon (Evo), but I would like to give this phone to my girlfriend, who happens to live in the United Kingdom. She's on the O2 network, and has all the data/plan stuff covered already, I just need to get the phone working for her when she pops in her SIM card.
From what I've gathered, it seems like the Nexus One WILL work on O2 with both 2G and 3G speeds, if this is true; can someone verify?
"O2 use 2100MHz for 3G and 900/1800MHz for GSM (2G - Voice/GPRS).
The Nexus One supports these frequencies for both services."
Also, I've never unlocked, or rooted a phone before. This phone would NEED to be unlocked for her to be able to use it, right? Is it possible to unlock a phone without rooting it? I really am new to all of this. She's not a power user, so I'd like her to keep the stock build and get all the updates. Is that possible? To unlock the phone and keep everything stocked?
Can someone maybe help with that? Or should I just follow one of those guides to "unlock and flash the rom" guides that I've found all over the internet? I really want to just keep everything stock for her, with the exception of the phone being unlocked.
Whatever happens, will the Android market still be working for her?
Does anyone know how Google Maps would work on the phone for her, in the UK?
I'm basically in love with the girl, and we're trying to do everything we can to make the best of a long distance relationship. The main reason I want her to have an android phone (mine) is for her to be able to use Fring with me, and Google Chat - so I'd really hope those apps worked in the UK.
Any help on unlocking this bad boy is much appreciated.
Thank you XDA,
You guys are awesome - and I have all the respect in the world for you.
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
Siggi303 said:
Hey Dude,
my US Nexus is working fine on O2 here in germany and there are no problems with 3G and 2G, so no worries. And afaik no Nexus One is sim-locked.
Hope this helps.
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That actually does help a lot - but,
did you purchase the unlocked Nexus from Google?
I can't confirm, but I've heard that both are different,
the T-Mobile version being sim locked.
I also have the APN settings from O2 U.K already
- I'm aware of that part.
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
dazzawright said:
Hi, I am on o2 in the uk and the nexus works Just fine (2g & 3g). Also, I thought the nexus wasn't sim locked, I certainly never had to unlock mine.
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Was yours purchased unlocked though?
Thank you
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
I am pretty sure that although Google were selling the Nexus with a T-Mobile option there are no sim- or netlocked Nexus Ones - simply for the fact that Google did not want that. That is also how Vodafone handles the Nexus distribution here in germany: There is an option for a bundle with a contract and the Nexus you get with it is not sim- or netlocked.
Also, to answer another question of you: Yes, your gf will be able to use all functions (market, maps, etc.) without any rooting-action necessary.
lorin.bute said:
Europe uses the same bands in every country. Its a direction from the European Union so every phone bought in Europe will work in every country in Europe.
Coincidentally, T-MO US uses the same bands so you won't have any trouble with it. I have the T-MO US version here in Romania and works fine on 2G and 3G.
I don't think its sim locked. You should put an att sim in it, although you're only gonna get 2G. But that will show you if its sim locked or not.
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That was a genius suggestion.
Popped in a co-workers ATT sim, and it worked
just fine with absolutely zero issues. Thank you!
AHHH I am so relieved. DDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
Siggi : Thank you also for that bit of information, you guys really just took a huge weight off my chest.
1. It will be fully functional on the provider you specified.
2. There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus.
3. It's fun using Fring video to show people places.
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
zachthemaster said:
just for our your clarification: EVERY NEXUS ONE SOLD IS UNLOCKED, and, IT WILL WORK IN THE UK.
Settled.
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Exactly.
I also got a Nexus One from Google US and it's working without any problems in germany.
Just remember, even though your Nexus One is unlocked, if you are on contract with T-Mobile and you cancel early, you will have to pay an ETF.

God Damn Vodafone!!!!!!! why!!

So much for everyone recieving the full froyo update!
as usuall vodafone balls everything up for all us users. It makes no sense unless they are removing features as the explanation around emergency calling doesnt fit, in that case users using a nexus one roaming on vodafone wouldnt be able to emergency call.
Nexus One customers that bought the phone from Vodafone will be getting Froyo, albeit a little delayed. We have to make a few changes to Froyo to optimize it for the Vodafone network (small stuff around Emergency calling, etc.), so it will take at least another couple of weeks (changes + testing).
Apologize for the extra delay, but please understand that this is a large scale deployment with lots of intricacies and we have to be prudent. I can assure you that we are striving hard to get Froyo out to all Nexus One customers ASAP.
Thanks for your continued support!
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http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=488da0ef21660d13&hl=en&start=3280
now how do i unlock my bootloader.
What if I bought my N1 directly from Google
I wish they would be more verbose about the actual issue.. surely anyone who has bought their phone direct from Google should be having certain issues with Froyo in Europe then?
So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...
b0dge said:
So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...
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all EPF21B handsets are assigned to vodafone, some phone shops might sell you it as another network, but they were meant to be vodafone only.
So yes unfortunatly all EPF21B phones have to wait for whatever crap google are doing to it, and given the amount of time they are saying it is gonna take i doubt it will be just minor changes like they say.
b0dge said:
So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...
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You did get it from vodafoe albeit through a phone shop.
Definitely couldn't have put it on any network. Phone are supplied from the networks not phone shops.
Think they need to 'optimize' out the tethering ability?
I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes). Cheers for the info guys.
So all this talk of all the updates for the N1 coming direct from Google with no interruptions from the networks was all pie in the sky?
asim_aziz said:
You did get it from vodafoe albeit through a phone shop.
Definitely couldn't have put it on any network. Phone are supplied from the networks not phone shops.
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You can put it on any network you like, I got mine from phone4u although it was a Vodafone phone there is no branding, sim or documentation and am running an 02 sim in it.
braingravyuk said:
You can put it on any network you like, I got mine from phone4u although it was a Vodafone phone there is no branding, sim or documentation and am running an 02 sim in it.
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Being an unlocked phone you can use any networks sim in it but it would still have vodafone customized firmware. Doesn't make it O2s phone by using O2 sim in it.
You said it couldn't be used on any network, I was saying this is incorrect. Am not saying sticking in a sim from another operator magically changes the firmware.
braingravyuk said:
You said it couldn't be used on any network, I was saying this is incorrect. Am not saying sticking in a sim from another operator magically changes the firmware.
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Have you tried flashing the new FroYo at all or are you worried about voiding warranty?
I thought there was a version which would update all firmware versions?
I wanted to stick it on one of the guys at works' phones but he didn't want to. He's on a VF contract with the phone coming from VF.
I bought mine sim free from Google and stuck my contract sim in and rooted within a month. Never looked back to be honest.
You should consider it and if something goes wrong, just go straight to HTC or claim on your own insurance (home or phone specific).
I wouldn't hang around waiting for VF to sort it out, they'll probably bastardise the firmware anyway and lock out stuff.
Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.
JCopernicus said:
Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.
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lol yeah ok, believe that if you wish. all the evidence however proves otherwise, have you read the gaurdian uk article from vodafone?
mattinglis said:
lol yeah ok, believe that if you wish. all the evidence however proves otherwise, have you read the gaurdian uk article from vodafone?
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A link or some specificity to what article you're talking about may answer that question.
JCopernicus said:
Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.
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Surely any worth while improvements would be in Froyo to benefit everyone, I can't see Vodafone running something that is unique to their network otherwise every single phone they release would need specific software to them.
Also isn't there other networks in Europe supplying the N1 that isn't Vodafone but use the same build? I do fear this is more about removal of tethering, as there is people on here running Froyo just fine on Vodafone's network.
Maybe there's hope for tether after all
Hey guys, I have an AT&T nexus1 now running frf85b on Vodafone in East Africa. Tether doesn't work already because of a DNS problem. I am pretty sure it's not a phone or computer problem, but some discrepancy between Voda and Froyo. Perhaps Voda is getting that worked out in their network before releasing frf85b. Or a different froyo build is on it's way, but either way, this seems like there may be hope for tether. If they didn't want you to have tether they could give it to you broke now.
Thats bull****...
Not everyone in europe uses Vodafone. I bought it from a retailer.
Since VF is the only provider with the n1 they also got it from VF.
Most people arent even using VF as their provider. Why should we need VF-specific ROM versions?
Vodafone forums are reporting another 2-3 weeks, which is why I unlocked the bootloader & am now running FRF85B.
Ha! up yours Vodamoan, I'm using an O2 sim anyways! LOL!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jun/29/android-froyo-google-update
there you go.
This update is not going to include any unique features for vodafone, neither is it going to include any improvements over the froyo which is already released. think about it why would google give a better version to voda rather than its own customers. neither is this update because of emergency calling like google claims, as to pass fcc rules the phone must be capable of creating emergency calls anywhere where there is reception, wether that be a us phone in the uk or vice versa it makes no difference.
this could be google making some changes to optomize it for vodafones network, but then the question is why dont other networks need optomized versions?
voda has made it clear in many sources it isnt happy about tethering on android or other phones as they fear it will cripple their network like att in america. so is it just coincidence that they have asked google to make changes? highly unlikely, more likely is google is either removing or limiting tethering on the vodafone version.
Quite how this will stop people tethering when they can just switch firmwares is beyond me.
Just a shame vodafone and to some way google (by agreeing to change it for vodafone) are going completely against the openness of android. Infact google themselves stated a few weeks back that they werent happy about the fragmentation of android, yet they themselves are fragmenting it for the benefit of a network.

Using American Nexus One in Germany

Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
Stevv said:
Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
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The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
cmstlist said:
The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
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tl; dr; -> Yes.
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
Stevv said:
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
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Yes, and as cmstlist said, the decision of T-Mo vs ATnT would mainly depend on your preference of carrier back in the US, if at all.
Rusty! said:
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
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AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
rohandhruva said:
AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
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Well. Vodafone wants to charge for tethering, so I guess they need some "add ons".
I thought the whole point of Nexus One was to make updates carrier-independent. Even now, the N1 sold by Vodafone is not branded anywhere right?
Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
Rusty! said:
Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
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There's no "need" for changes, emergency calls and APNs are the official reason. But that's a load since everything works fine on Kang-o-rama for me.
Translated source on heise.de
My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
T-MO USA version has the frequencies you are looking for to use it in Europe.
Well mine has the correct UK spellings, correct date and time format. Probably something to do with setting the language to English (UK) more than any customistion being done.
rohandhruva said:
My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
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No, it's not. It's about adding an accounting technique for the sharing of mobile internet. The locale didn't change and things like voice search or turn by turn navigation are added in application updates.
There's no reason to delay the OTA other than adding provider crap ware.
N1 in Europe
I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
You can use MarketAccess to install/update the protected apps without changing sims - http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
glwinkler said:
I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
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So, do you have to pay a lot for internet access while you are buying apps using your American sim?
Or can you not use Wi-fi to download apps?
Yes, you can use WiFi but afaik you still need that US SIM card inserted.
Also, check your PM

N950N Olympics Edition on UK carriers

Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....
rljuss said:
Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....
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It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
stonedpsycho said:
It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
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Thanks for your reply.
On paper, this phone has all the necessary bands to work on TMobile USA but a test at one of their stores with an active SIM didn't have good results. Although the phone displayed LTE, outgoing calls took between 40 and 60 seconds to initiate dialing out, and SMS texts would not go out at all (or if they went out, they didn't arrive at destination phone).
I travel frequently to the UK so I was just hoping that this phone would work out of the box with a UK SIM with no need for mods....
How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool
justinxfan said:
How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool
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I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).
Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.
iceepyon said:
Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.
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Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.
rljuss said:
Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.
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You would need to contact T-Mobile or visit their retail branch and have them add your devices IMEI# on their network. For some strange reason some networks require that...
It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
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Limeybastard said:
It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.
rljuss said:
I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).
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rljuss said:
Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.
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I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!
Frozenrosen said:
I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!
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Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?
rljuss said:
Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?
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I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone
Frozenrosen said:
I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone
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Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
rljuss said:
Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Ok great! Good luck, you will love the phone, I know I do! I just saw a teammate last night who was in Korea also, and he loves the phone as well! Let me know if that works!
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Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Is it working ok for you? Also I have a question, what software version are you on? I'm on the Oreo update but still on the April patch? I am trying to see if anyone has a newer software patch that they have got. I find it strange that I haven't had any updates in 3 months.
Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.
rljuss said:
Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.
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Have you tried the reset network with the Sim in now you are in the UK? That sounds like what happened to me, would only get 3g until I would reset the network with the Sim in. I once tried to put in another Sim and when I put my EE Sim back in I had to reset the network again. I'm even in Germany now for the past week and I get LTE here as well.
Ok thanks, we are on the same security patch. But I would think that we would get updates that are newer than that. On Reddit people are already talking about getting thier July updates, while we are still on the April update.

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