A71 Camera post-processing smudgy & cartoony - Samsung Galaxy A71 Questions & Answers

A picture is worth a thousand words.
To illustrate the problem, below are two photos of my cat. The first was taken using the native Samsung camera app. The second using a port of Gcam.
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Do you see the problem? Pictures taken with the Samsung camera app produce this "smudging" effect, making it look almost like a painting, or a cartoon.
This problem is very prevalent once you start using the camera a lot, taking lots of photos. Usually happens when the scene includes a lot of small details that need to be captured, like people's faces, or a textured intricate pattern.
Instead of accurately representing those details, the camera produces this smudged cartoony effect more often than not.
Since using the ported Gcam app on the same phone, same hardware, produces far superior results, it is reasonable to conclude that this is a Samsung software issue, and that the post-processing algorithm is not up to par.
My question being, is this a known issue? Is something being done about it? Is there a solution other than using 3rd party apps like the Gcam port used in my examples?
I'd much rather use the native camera app provided by Samsung, but as it stands currently it's just really not up to the challenge.
Will appreciate any feedback, thanks!

nanquan said:
is this a known issue?
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Yes.
Is something being done about it?
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Not really, Samsung's approach.
Is there a solution other than using 3rd party apps like the Gcam port used in my examples?
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No.
P.S. What gcam port do you use exactly? Could you please link?
Do you see gcam improvement also in video comparing to stock camera app, filmic Pro and open camera?

Wow, that's so disappointing to hear!
One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera upgrade, thinking it would be decent.
Can't believe that it's this flawed for a device that came out in 2020.
DonAndress said:
P.S. What gcam port do you use exactly? Could you please link?
Do you see gcam improvement also in video comparing to stock camera app, filmic Pro and open camera?
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I just used the one that was advertised on this forum: https://www.cyanogenmods.org/galaxy-a71-google-camera-apk-download/
Seems to work well for the most part. I mainly tested it with taking photos. Video quality seems to be about the same as the stock Samsung camera app, but I haven't tested it extensively to be fair.

I have noticed this smudging in other apps such as snapchat too, it's even worse there.

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[Q] Camera App with better zoom for HTC HD2 available at all?

Hey all, Im new to this forum. I have a t-Mobile HTC HD2 that has PATs JW MIUI Sense like 1.9.9 ML installed on it via Nand. I am not fond of the stock camera app that comes with the ROM. It does not have a very good zoom on it.
Is there any Camera App that I can install on it that is like stock and has a better zoom on it? I know there are some free ones on the market, but so far I havent found one with a better zoom on it.
Any help is grateful
Thanks in adavance!
well no, you can get other camera with better quality of photo and effects.
I looking for camera with zoom too
With regards to zoom, the function in a way is somewhat pointless. The camera can take 5.1 Mpx shots, and all zoom does, is digitally enlarge what you see on the screen. So in fact taking a photo then cropping it, does exactly the same as what zoom will do regardless of the zoom factor! For real zoom, it would need an optical zoom lens.
Zoom zoom!
jonboyuk said:
With regards to zoom, the function in a way is somewhat pointless. The camera can take 5.1 Mpx shots, and all zoom does, is digitally enlarge what you see on the screen. So in fact taking a photo then cropping it, does exactly the same as what zoom will do regardless of the zoom factor! For real zoom, it would need an optical zoom lens.
Zoom zoom!
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n1 one xD but a little bit braggy
hey you can install "Camera360 Ultimate"... its very nice to use. I wont use the original camera but this! lotsa effect and it can zoom.
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Made me lol
LOL, that is hilarious
Clarion said:
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Use Camera Zoom FX. In settings select zoom type 4. You will be able to zoom by a factor of 6.
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I looking for camera with zoom too
LMAO
corrsea said:
Use Camera Zoom FX. In settings select zoom type 4. You will be able to zoom by a factor of 6.
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i'm LMAO got to have this one
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I personally use MIUI Camera.
It seems to me that (maybe only it seems so to me) the phone is taking better pictures whit it.

[Discussion] What's the best camera app for AOSP/CM ROMs?

So I've switched to CMRemix since day one, and there seems to be a ton a problems with the camera. I have lots of cool features and buttery smooth performance, but the camera is literally the one thing that totally sucks on a non TW ROM.
Any suggestions for better camera performance? I'm getting these muddy, non-sharp photos that look like it's been taken by a 2 megapixel camera :/
qwahchees said:
So I've switched to CMRemix since day one, and there seems to be a ton a problems with the camera. I have lots of cool features and buttery smooth performance, but the camera is literally the one thing that totally sucks on a non TW ROM.
Any suggestions for better camera performance? I'm getting these muddy, non-sharp photos that look like it's been taken by a 2 megapixel camera :/
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That's the only thing that holds me back from AOSP. I take a lot of photos and the TW camera is by far the best in fact it's probably the best camera on the smartphone market. I've tried a lot of 3rd party cameras with CM and just haven't found one as good.
Batfink33 said:
That's the only thing that holds me back from AOSP. I take a lot of photos and the TW camera is by far the best in fact it's probably the best camera on the smartphone market. I've tried a lot of 3rd party cameras with CM and just haven't found one as good.
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I've been playing with the camera for the last hour and found that Camera FV-5 actually does a pretty good job. Not sure how good compared to the TW camera, but it has some pretty good photos when controlled properly. It's just sad Samsung won't update their API to camera2 :/
Here's a picture I took randomly
This one with Stock AOSP camera
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This one with Camera FV-5 @ 8.9MP?
Bumping this. Any hidden gems out there?
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I've been playing with the camera for the last hour and found that Camera FV-5 actually does a pretty good job. Not sure how good compared to the TW camera, but it has some pretty good photos when controlled properly. It's just sad Samsung won't update their API to camera2 :/
Here's a picture I took randomly
This one with Stock AOSP camera
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Any particular settings that you used? Mine looks washed out the same.
Fv5 and snap camera for 4k videos. But it's not even close to Touchwiz
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P20 Pro close up photos blurry / not focusing

Hi everyone,
I think I might have a problem with my cameras or maybe they're just not as good as I hoped. The image attached is supposed to be a close up but as you can see it wouldn't focus close up. I was around 2" away from the object. Previous phones handled close ups like this without a problem, so what gives?
How are you close ups?
I've already tried cleaning the lens and changing cameras settings etc
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I can't get the image to display??
A quick solution
Please refer to https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77804957&postcount=51. Although, from the screenshot you have attached, it seems that your phone is simply too close to the subject. The minimum focusing distance for your P20 Pro is 10cm, so you will need an external lens attachment to photograph anything closer than that. I hope this helps.
Exactly. It even tells you that you're too close. Just back off a little.
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Please refer to https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77804957&postcount=51. Although, from the screenshot you have attached, it seems that your phone is simply too close to the subject. The minimum focusing distance for your P20 Pro is 10cm, so you will need an external lens attachment to photograph anything closer than that. I hope this helps.
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I might try what is suggested in the other thread. As for being too close, my 2014 S5 can take close ups at this distance no problem so I expected this "beast" to be even better.
I love the phone but I think the cameras were definitely over hyped
Well it's no secret that the minimum focus is 10 cm. But I agree it would be handy if closer focus could be achieved. Occasionally I could make use of it, too.
all the pugs said:
Well it's no secret that the minimum focus is 10 cm. But I agree it would be handy if closer focus could be achieved. Occasionally I could make use of it, too.
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Then you guys are in luck. Your p20 Pro comes with a 40MP sensor. So zoom in and crop away at your hearts' desire, my friends .
With all my respect, but that is not the same. Far from it.
all the pugs said:
With all my respect, but that is not the same. Far from it.
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Yes, I know. Just trying to put a positive spin on a bad situation I have actually been curious to try out one of those macro lens attachments from Amazon.
I guess they will work okay. I sometimes photograph through a loupe, just holding the phone close to it. Doesn't look as good as a true macro shot, but good enough if you're lazy and don't want to get the DSLR out (I am the queen of laziness ).
auto-focus macro would ask u to go further away. If you'd like to do really closed-up photos, you can do it 2 ways.
1. switch to 3x zoom, then point your subject and take photo. the magnification is quite near to macro.
2. switch to "Pro" mode, then, click "AF-C" to choose "MF", there u can switch the focus slider to get your desired focus. That way, I can get up to 4 or 5 cm closed instead of 10 cm as in auto-focus mode.

[HELP] Optical zoom how to?

Can someone explain to me how to use the Optical Zoom?
I've just got the Moment lenses and the mount suggests I can use the second camera, however everytime i've tried to check which lens is in use, I think i'm seeing the primary 2x digital
Help and advice welcomed
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Can someone explain to me how to use the Optical Zoom?
I've just got the Moment lenses and the mount suggests I can use the second camera, however everytime i've tried to check which lens is in use, I think i'm seeing the primary 2x digital
Help and advice welcomed
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The telephoto camera is only used when the scene is bright enough though, otherwise the phone falls back to its main camera with a 2x digital zoom (which gives better results anyway in low-light scenes)
is there a way of checking which camera it is using?
from my checking it never uses it.
LBTaylor1984 said:
is there a way of checking which camera it is using?
from my checking it never uses it.
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Hold your finger over the lens? You will be able to tell which one is being used.
EzEddie said:
Hold your finger over the lens? You will be able to tell which one is being used.
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In that case it uses only the main camera all the time.
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The telephoto camera is only used when the scene is bright enough though, otherwise the phone falls back to its main camera with a 2x digital zoom (which gives better results anyway in low-light scenes)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but on Samsung's page it says its a 2x optical zoom.
It only works on the classic photo mode, not the pro one (which I don't know why)

12mp vs 48mp

So i was playing around with my phone. And found out that the 48mp takes "fake" photos. As in far from real. And 12mp takes almost the same as what im seeing.
12mp
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48mp
So i found out that, 12MP works best for indoor,48MP for outdoors... Or 12MP for faster capturing and 48MP for slower capturing.
Maybe because of pixel binning...
https://www.google.com/search?q=pix...-android-asus&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Maybe because of pixel binning...
https://www.google.com/search?q=pix...-android-asus&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Yes i know. 4 pixels into 1. But its making everything more white/blue...
If you're using the stock Asus camera app, the photos produced by that are pretty bad. Try a modded GCam and it will be a noticeable difference.
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If you're using the stock Asus camera app, the photos produced by that are pretty bad. Try a modded GCam and it will be a noticeable difference.
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Okay i know. But if i want to insist on using the stock app. 48mp or 12mp? Im confused.
If you want to insist on using that, you will just keep getting these poor quality photos. The Asus camera software probably does not have a good algorithm for fixing the issues with 48 MP photos.
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If you want to insist on using that, you will just keep getting these poor quality photos. The Asus camera software probably does not have a good algorithm for fixing the issues with 48 MP photos.
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So in short just use 12MP right?
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So in short just use 12MP right?
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Well, 48MP has 4x more pixels than the 12MP. If Asus's camera software cannot optimize the 48MP, you see the imperfections even more since there are more pixels in the image. 48MP would only really be useful if you need to show these images on a larger screen or you're doing some sort of professional photo editing where you can benefit from a more pixel-dense photo. So yes, you can stick to 12MP since it saves storage space and looks slightly better.
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Well, 48MP has 4x more pixels than the 12MP. If Asus's camera software cannot optimize the 48MP, you see the imperfections even more since there are more pixels in the image. 48MP would only really be useful if you need to show these images on a larger screen or you're doing some sort of professional photo editing where you can benefit from a more pixel-dense photo. So yes, you can stick to 12MP since it saves storage space and looks slightly better.
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Pixel Binning wasnt like this on my P30 Pro....

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