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Huawei Releases EMUI 8.1 Update for Mate 10 & Mate 10 Pro, Big Upgrades to Camera

Huawei Releases EMUI 8.1 Update for Mate 10 & Mate 10 Pro, Big Upgrades to Camera
Ttoday Huawei has officially started EMUI 8.1.0.321 update for the Mate 10/Mate 10 Pro device. It is also reported that the Mate 10 will get GPU Turbo Technology probably by next month.
The new EMUI 8.1 system update will bring new features to the Mate 10 series smartphone like 960fps super slow motion videos capability, AI photography master, 3D portrait light effect, smart gallery and many other practical features. The AI photography will increases the number of scene recognition modes from 13 categories to 19 categories and total scene/o recognition to over 500, through this update the cameras of Mate 10 series smartphone can now identify more scenes and objects. The users of the Mate 10 can update EMUI 8.1 by heading to the Huawei Club app and register as an early adopter under Member Services, the update will then be pushed out to your device when registration is done.
Recall last October, Huawei has launched the Mate 10 series smartphone in China, at that time it was running on EMUI 8.0 system based on Android 8.0 . In March this year, Huawei added face recognition to the Mate 10 series through an update and in May these smartphones received another update that brings super night scene mode to make its night shooting ability significantly better. In June, Huawei’s Mate 10 series was the first to implement the GPU Turbo technology upgrade which improves its graphics computing efficiency by 60% and reduced the power consumption by 30%.

What club app?

This one : http://appdlc.hicloud.com/dl/appdl/[email protected]&source=portalsite

timalpipo said:
This one : http://appdlc.hicloud.com/dl/appdl/[email protected]&source=portalsite
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What model of the mate 10 are you using?

Mate 10 alp l29.

login not work in app for me. just white screen:s

Cannot understand... Its all on chinese ... Do i have to install it?

Same here..
Not understanding howto become an early adopter..
Is working only on chinese versions?
I have BLA-L09 C432..
Thanks

I think you need to login on the app for "more service" but I can't seem to login, tried using Mobile Data and Wifi and also used VPN(china server), but still not able to login. Giving me "Network Error...."

Only seeing it in Chinese models ATM.
Looking hard for global early release...
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wbrambley said:
Only seeing it in Chinese models ATM.
Looking hard for global early release...
Sent from my HUAWEI ALP-L29 using XDA Labs
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Whats your font?

timalpipo said:
Ttoday Huawei has officially started EMUI 8.1.0.321 update for the Mate 10/Mate 10 Pro device. It is also reported that the Mate 10 will get GPU Turbo Technology probably by next month.
The new EMUI 8.1 system update will bring new features to the Mate 10 series smartphone like 960fps super slow motion videos capability, AI photography master, 3D portrait light effect, smart gallery and many other practical features. The AI photography will increases the number of scene recognition modes from 13 categories to 19 categories and total scene/o recognition to over 500, through this update the cameras of Mate 10 series smartphone can now identify more scenes and objects. The users of the Mate 10 can update EMUI 8.1 by heading to the Huawei Club app and register as an early adopter under Member Services, the update will then be pushed out to your device when registration is done.
Recall last October, Huawei has launched the Mate 10 series smartphone in China, at that time it was running on EMUI 8.0 system based on Android 8.0 . In March this year, Huawei added face recognition to the Mate 10 series through an update and in May these smartphones received another update that brings super night scene mode to make its night shooting ability significantly better. In June, Huawei’s Mate 10 series was the first to implement the GPU Turbo technology upgrade which improves its graphics computing efficiency by 60% and reduced the power consumption by 30%.
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Same model as you and the only updates I got since buying the Mate 10 (secondhand and only a few days ago) are face unlock and a security patch. I have night shot mode but I doubt it's the one you're talking about.

How to use, this app?

thanasis12. said:
How to use, this app?
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You can't. Probably a reason why no one can find it in the app gallery or play store. I guess it's a Chinese app for the Chinese ROM. And only Chinese can get the beta/testing

Damn , we should all learn Chinese........

gogoffm said:
Damn , we should all learn Chinese........
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Lol, i don't think you would like to have that Chinese firmware, full of fishy bloatware on your device.
But learning cinese is not a bad thing, i must admit! ?

Will I be able to OTA upgrade to this update if I un-root my device?
Thanks! -t

Decided For the Pixel 4 - vs all the others (Samsung, Apple, and etc)

I am very excited. I really think it's a special phone, at least from a first glance. The phones that Samsung, Apple, LG, and others put out year after year are all.. carbon copies of one another. I always choose an outsider if I have the option for anything outside of the mainstream - you know, especially if everyone has it.
I had HTC m8 when Samsung ruled Android all alone. Than I opted for OnePlus when I broke my HTC.. because, why not right? Cheap, and as good as the twice as expensive ones.
Anyway!!
That was probably the main reason I decided to go with Pixel. On top of guarantee of getting new Android OS probably before anyone else, I also like the lack of a company skin, and bloatware. I mean root does take care of that but you shouldn't need to root to get rid of apps from a device that you OWN.
When I get it, hoping the order process goes without a hitch, I will write my first impressions here.
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^^ Hoping the estimate is very close to accurate.
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I didn't spend much time on the forum but from a few reviews I read.. it seems pretty mixed. Some hate it, others love it. Care to enlighten me, please?
Greatly appreciate any effort to that question..
Cheers, Amer

The sound quality will blow you away.
Phone calls are clear and crisp, no complaints, people can hear me great too.
Small but pleasant surprises:
The vibrating motor has an interesting kick to it. It's hard to ignore.. (if you've used phones set to vibrate and still missed calls you didn't notice you'd understand what I mean)
I'm coming from a P30, so battery life in comparison is certainly an issue (or at least precieved to be an issue.)
To counteract this I ordered an iotie wireless charger for the car.
Face unlock: yes we all heard its bad, cause it doesn't require "attention" to unlock.
I don't have trust issues or major security requirements. However....
When you put this in the car holder... If it catches a glimpse of your face for even a second... The screen unlocks and stays open (very annoying) also if you have the screen off and it somehow gets a glimpse of your face... Screen unlocked... Now your fingers are doing all sorts of things on the phone that you don't want to happen.
Having said that.. We all know google will patch in the "attention" feature for face unlock. I'm not happy about the delay... But I can certainly wait.
Bottom line, could it have been better... Absolutely.... Do I have any regrets? No.
I'm very happy with my purchase. And I've had it since the 26th of October. So literally 1 week.
I love having a comparable screen to iPhone, gestures, and stock android. And the camera is better than I need it to be. (yup not a pro phone cam user.. I mostly take pics of my pets or business cards or important notes..) for anything else I have a dslr.
This is highly subjective... So I hope you'll be happy with it. And if not.. That's fine... Just return or sell and go with something that makes you happy =)
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Very quickly, I am absolutely happy with my Pixel.
Face unlock, I really do think this is a storm in a tea cup. If your life leads you to worry about people sneaking in to your bedroom and presenting your phone to your face whilst you sleep... You have much more serious issue to deal with than the pixel's biometric supposed shortcomings.
More annoying is that it doesn't work with all those apps that I just got used to working with my fingerprint.
Don't understand about it opening when it catches sight of your face instantly? Mine doesn't, I have to press the power button before it activates? Probably something I've misunderstood. (Edit - I get it now actually. Soli wakes the phone up and then your face unlocks it. Doesn't seem to happen that often unintentionally though)
It does just work 100% of the time (so far at least) really, really quickly.
The battery. It is 19:05 here, the phone was charged up yesterday, I left it off the power overnight, to see how it would fare (it lost 8%) and I'm on 33%. I charged it fit approx 10 minutes in car earlier.
It could be better, but really it doesn't impact anywhere near as much as done would have you think.
The camera is simply brilliant.
Scrolling around is super smooth. Noticeably smoother than my old Huawei P20 Pro. To use some other company's tag line - it just works.

I agree with everybody else in that it does have it's shortcomings but overall I love the phone. I mainly like it because of the size. It just feels so much more comfortable in the hand vs larger form factor phones like the 4 XL. It's also a very unique phone in that it is the only small form factor phone with a 90hz display right now, every other phone that has a 90hz display is on the larger side.
Battery life is relatively bad compared to other phones, I'm getting about 4 hours of screen on time with light-medium usage, which includes youtube videos and scrolling through social media. It's not much of an issue for me though because I always charge my phone in my car and I always carry a portable charger with me.
I just can't get over that 90hz display, it's so smooth.

Amer28 said:
I am very excited. I really think it's a special phone, at least from a first glance. The phones that Samsung, Apple, LG, and others put out year after year are all.. carbon copies of one another. I always choose an outsider if I have the option for anything outside of the mainstream - you know, especially if everyone has it.
I had HTC m8 when Samsung ruled Android all alone. Than I opted for OnePlus when I broke my HTC.. because, why not right? Cheap, and as good as the twice as expensive ones.
Anyway!!
That was probably the main reason I decided to go with Pixel. On top of guarantee of getting new Android OS probably before anyone else, I also like the lack of a company skin, and bloatware. I mean root does take care of that but you shouldn't need to root to get rid of apps from a device that you OWN.
When I get it, hoping the order process goes without a hitch, I will write my first impressions here.
^^ Hoping the estimate is very close to accurate.
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I didn't spend much time on the forum but from a few reviews I read.. it seems pretty mixed. Some hate it, others love it. Care to enlighten me, please?
Greatly appreciate any effort to that question..
Cheers, Amer
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I don't agree putting LG with Samsung and Apple. In fac I can tell you that carbon copy is Apple and Pixel when it comes to main camera sensor module. They both share an Sony imx363 but assembled and with lenses from LG Innotek . So who's copying who? Apple has f1.8, pixel f1. 7 and lg the more advanced f1. 5 since lg v40 ThinQ. That's 1 year before.
Regarding photovideography my V50 kills both the iPhone and the pixel.
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Regarding sound quality, saying the pixel has sound quality without reffering to the best in class... Quad dac, LDAC, dtsx, hardware MQA, 32 bit audio processor and so on...
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Design?
Just take a look at the V50 Korean model. Under glass most advanced and best on the planet triple camera system. LG has done it. Pixel apple and Samsung are dreaming.

Inerent said:
I don't agree putting LG with Samsung and Apple. In fac I can tell you that carbon copy is Apple and Pixel when it comes to main camera sensor module. They both share an Sony imx363 but assembled and with lenses from LG Innotek . So who's copying who? Apple has f1.8, pixel f1. 7 and lg the more advanced f1. 5 since lg v40 ThinQ. That's 1 year before.
Regarding photovideography my V50 kills both the iPhone and the pixel.
Regarding sound quality, saying the pixel has sound quality without reffering to the best in class... Quad dac, LDAC, dtsx, hardware MQA, 32 bit audio processor and so on...
Design?
Just take a look at the V50 Korean model. Under glass most advanced and best on the planet triple camera system. LG has done it. Pixel apple and Samsung are dreaming.
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LG's flagship devices are meh at best.
Camera? Can only take average at best in detail. f1.5 means nothing if image processing is mediocre.
Under glass camera? LG wasn't the first to do that and they can only do so because they are using smaller camera sensors (aka. for midrange)
Design? This is subjective. LG phones are always a clone of Samsung but look plain and boring.
There is no real character in their phones. Let's not talk about LG's hideous notch because it's not even funny to begin with.
Sound quality? They should thank HTC for being bankrupt, else, HTC will continue to dominate this space.
Videography? I am not a fan of iPhone but everyone will agree that they rule this piece even without pro mode.

Yeah, right. I'm telling you. LG V50 kills everything in both photos and videos.
Regarding design:

How about this? Got it since 04 December.
I've heard there are pixel 4 xl out there with like September and October security patch.
Intresting how times changes...
Regarding the camera aspect don't forget that LG Innotek makes them both for iPhone and Pixel. No way iPhone is taking better videos than V50. They're dreaming.

Ah. I forgot to mention I'm getting 10-12 hours SOT with my V50 4000mah.
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Inerent said:
How about this? Got it since 04 December.
I've heard there are pixel 4 xl out there with like September and October security patch.
Intresting how times changes...
Regarding the camera aspect don't forget that LG Innotek makes them both for iPhone and Pixel. No way iPhone is taking better videos than V50. They're dreaming.
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Pixel 4 xl with Sept security patches!? You do realize the pixel 4 wasn't released until October ? Let me guess this coming from the grapevine right.

General Initial impressions & photo samples (CN ROM)

I've used my new Mi 11 Ultra (CN rom) for over 48 hours now and just wanted to say I'm very impressed so far. It's the first time I've used a Xiaomi device in over a decade and I previously had a Huawei P40 Pro for over a year. I ordered mine from TradingShenzhen and it took 9 days in total to land on my doorstep.
Screen: Amazing. Bright in sunlight, sharp, clear and just what you'd expect from an E4 screen. They weren't kidding when they said it can max out at 1700 nits if you really wanted to set it to that. Doesn't use a LTPO panel like the S21 Ultra does which would've made it even more power efficient but I suppose you can't have everything. Also, I wouldn't call the secondary screen a gimmick, but its features are certainly very limited at present so I've just put the default clock on and left it there.
Performance: Very fast. 12GB of LPDDR5 and the cooling system seem to be doing their job well as I remember Xiaomi pointing out that the SD888 runs hot on a lot of other devices in the market during their launch event.
I ran some benchmarks as shown below for curiosity and couldn't be happier with the numbers I was able to bench on it. I know real-world situations are more important but it's interesting to see the scores imho. I don't play a lot of games but I am a heavy social media user as well as happen to use my phone for work, so I do appreciate how snappy and quick everything is.
Cameras: One of the best I've seen to date, but sometimes I've noticed it's still not always consistent and reliable. Nonetheless the mains sensor captures a lot of detail due to its sensor size in almost all scenarios. You do get a really good natural bokeh effect too when shooting subjects up close, the ultrawide angle is incredibly wide at 12mm and Night mode shots are probably the best I've seen so far. The zoom is really great even though 10x optical would've been nice to have (even night mode zoom shots are decent due to its IMX586's 1/2" sensor size).
My housemate has an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I've found her phone to just be a bit more reliable and consistent. Occasionally I need to manually turn on HDR mode too as the AI won't toggle that on or maybe I'm just used to my previous phone's 'scene optimizer' feature automatically doing that for me and this behaviour of the Mi 11 Ultra is intended.
Another thing I've noticed is that camera module itself seems to get hot easily even just from taking photos. I'm not referring to taking shots back-to-back constantly or even recording videos and the shutter speed seems to have some minor 'lag' to it too which is hard to describe which is a bit annoying.
I'm hoping some software updates and optimizations will address this issue as we are still on very early firmware where none of the recent builds have specifically mentioned camera improvements from what I've noticed.
Call reception/signal: LTE, 5G and cellular speeds seem superior to my Huawei P40 Pro and when I try putting in my SIM to an IPhone 12 Pro Max, I get higher download speeds than that too. VOLTE and WiFi calling all working as intended for my carrier (EE).
Battery life: I still haven't fully stress tested it properly but the 5000mAh battery is looking good so far. Easily 7-8 hours (YMMV) SOT with 120hz, but at FHD+ due to personal preference. I didn't buy the official Xiaomi 67w wired charger as I already have a working 65w PD 3.0 from Amazon instead which works well (got over 75% in 30mins).
Build quality/feel: Love the ceramic rear back which you don't find on most flagships nowadays and even though it weighs a hefty 239g, it just screams quality to me as I'm used to big phones even though I have medium-sized hands. The camera bump is big and it's definitely going to be a dealbreaker or dealmaker for those who either like or dislike the look. I personally don't mind it since it's so unique looking.
Overall impressions: I'm a happy user (and customer!) and look forward to a couple of software updates which I hope will iron out a few issues/bugs I've encountered. The global version would've been cool to have but after spending several hours debloating, customizing and getting used to MIUI 12, it feels great and I've got no problems staying with the CN ROM since my carrier's bands are all supported on it and Google Pay is working too.
What I like
+ Beautiful and bright Samsung E4 panel with 120hz support
+ One of the faster SD888 phones out there with less throttling problems
+ First device to use the new Samsung GN2 main sensor and it captures so much detail
+ A huge battery with support for aftermarket PD 3.0 charging (I used a RavPower 65w charger)
+ Looks and smells premium and solid all-round with the Ceramic rear back and Gorilla Glass Victus on the front and back
+ MIUI 12 on the whole and its stock launcher is very speedy - I didn't need to replace it with Nova in the end
What I dislike
- Some annoying bugs/issues which I hope will be fixed soon: camera shutter button lags sometimes, the camera gets very hot quickly, my WiFi automatically goes to sleep after I turn off the screen despite turning off all battery optimization and restrictions under battery and app management settings and I can't record videos in the self-view of the secondary rear screen
- No 10x optical zoom (120x shouldn't be taken too seriously) - the 10x hybrid is still more than good enough for the most part
- Photos taken from the ultrawide's edges and corners are a bit soft and there's slightly more barrel distortion compared to my Huawei P40 Pro as well as my housemate's iPhone 12 Pro Max
- CN ROM had more junk than I expected - I had to use ADB/Fastboot Tools and SDK Platform Tools to debloat my phone and check which apps/processes were safe to remove and which were not
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Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.

Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!

shethsa said:
Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.
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I've gotten about 3 updates since I bought it, mainly UI improvements and a few other quality of life changes. I'm also on the April 2021 Security patch already so I'm very happy with the pace so far.
The camera lag isn't too bad, I may have made it sound worse than it is as it doesn't always happen and seems to more of an animation/UI stutter than anything as it does end up taking the photo anyway.

Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.

mgbosshogg said:
Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.
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Yes, you're right. The lag I'm seeing is not too much of a dealbreaker as I'm sure it can be fixed via an update.
I have a Vodafone UK SIM from my work iPhone I've tried it with too. Unfortunately, I don't get VOLTE or 4G+/LTE no matter what settings I try but I do get VOWIFI and 5G on it. It might be because of the firmware/modem settings from what I've heard which stops me from getting 4G+/LTE.
I also tried a BT SIM too but as that piggybacks on to EE's network, I do get VOLTE, VOWiFi, 4G+/LTE without any issues.

galr said:
Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!
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Here you go. I deliberately took the last two photos in those lighting conditions to see how it'd behave.

1x, 2x
1x, 5x, 10x

Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.

galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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I'll take some more shots when I go outside as well.

galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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Added a couple more samples.

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Added a couple more samples.
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Thanks again!

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Brilliant. Thanks.

I took some various shots around town today.
Auto settings and AI mode enabled as before but this time I'm on 12.5.4 CN stable. I'm very happy with the results and can't wait for even more camera improvements.
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Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?

wilpang said:
@kyero985
Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?
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Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now

kyero985 said:
Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now
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I know what you mean, had the same amount updates as yourself on 12.5.4 or something like that just trying to get everything the way I like as per my last Oneplus device.

Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.

OPOmaniac said:
Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.
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There has been a comparison here pre update

A sample of picture taken in lowlight direct facing light source. You can see the text behind

Question Cameras in low light are really bad

Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.

arsenal74 said:
Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.
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Really not sure about keeping the phone. On one hand I actually like the fake OxygenOS basically ColorOS. The phone software feels very very polished relative to other androids. Almost like a non buggy MIUI. But the PWM flicker is pretty bad.
Cameras seem fine in my limited testing. Although OnePlus has always taken a couple months to fix their cameras.

I've taken some great pics so far...as with any phone the situation sometimes requires you to alter some settings, that's what pro modes for.
This phone will come good, the hardwares just too good to not exploit with some good ROMs.
I was hesitant at first comparing it to my 8 pro but I'm so in now..

dladz said:
I've taken some great pics so far...as with any phone the situation sometimes requires you to alter some settings, that's what pro modes for.
This phone will come good, the hardwares just too good to not exploit with some good ROMs.
I was hesitant at first comparing it to my 8 pro but I'm so in now..
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Totally agree!

in good light the camera is fine, it is medium to low light where I am seeing a drop off vs say the S22 or Pixel. For example seems pretty bad for smudging fur detail on pets.

arsenal74 said:
in good light the camera is fine, it is medium to low light where I am seeing a drop off vs say the S22 or Pixel. For example seems pretty bad for smudging fur detail on pets.
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Have you tried the other settings in manual mode ?
As a point and shoot it'll get better but if you expect the world without any work it's just not going to happen mate. Not Vs an S22. I mean that's an expensive phone, it should be better, the pixel is using the base software and it's Google again it should be better..
That being said I'm positive I can get better than any point and shoot camera phone with this phone

This camera has a lot of features, settings, and cool picture possibilities....Hasselblad ftw

What I have learnt from experience with phones is to now buy it for the camera , I will just get one mirror less camera which will last longer than any camera phones for a long time

I think it is only in comparison to the competition that it falls short. My torture test for any new phone is photos of our cats indoors and I am seeing more smudging and a less clwean image than the Pixel of S22 Ultra offers and yes I have owned both and still actually have the S22U.

arsenal74 said:
I think it is only in comparison to the competition that it falls short. My torture test for any new phone is photos of our cats indoors and I am seeing more smudging and a less clwean image than the Pixel of S22 Ultra offers and yes I have owned both and still actually have the S22U.
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Try some different settings. Smudges may occur due to HDR being on and a slight movement, could just be the software that OnePlus has made. It could just need a few updates which I'm sure may occur.
ISO could be too high too.
Use pro mode, set the shutter speed as low as possible Vs an ISO of 200-800, should help...find the sweet spot depending on the light you have.. it's manual but honestly my pics come out better when I have control. My DSLR I'd never let the camera choose for me..

There was a poll on phonearena with blind camera test (users were asked to vote for best picture of same scene clicked by S22, iPhone13 Pro, OP 10 Pro and Pixel 6 Pro without knowing which phone clicked which picture)... OP sucked major balls and came in last
I got my OP10 Pro today...anyway I did not buy it for camera
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arsenal74 said:
Smudged detail, really not great. I had the find x5 pro for a while before returning it and there really is no comparison. Quite disappointed.
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Yeah, sometimes it is bad if there is very low light OnePlus should give an update for this along with the security patch!

gagan007 said:
There was a poll on phonearena with blind camera test (users were asked to vote for best picture of same scene clicked by S22, iPhone13 Pro, OP 10 Pro and Pixel 6 Pro without knowing which phone clicked which picture)... OP sucked major balls and came in last
I got my OP10 Pro today...anyway I did not buy it for camera
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Again this is point and shoot.
Ask any actual photographer if they rely on automatic lens settings, the vast majority will say no they won't so why would you rely on it for your phone? They all have the capability yet we tend to believe some plum who's pointings and shooting? Makes no sense to me
I'm not saying that the results are incorrect as I've not used them phones, but relying on this test is testing one thing and that's the automatic settings chosen by the software on the phone.
That's it.
Give all these phones to a photographer and get them to use settings based on the scene they have Infront of them, then check the results, I think you'll see a different outcome

For the record I used to be a photographer for a living in a previous life. I almost always though just use my phone in auto mode as a point and shoot, have just never embraced manual mode (or even Av mode for that matter) on a phone.

arsenal74 said:
For the record I used to be a photographer for a living in a previous life. I almost always though just use my phone in auto mode as a point and shoot, have just never embraced manual mode (or even Av mode for that matter) on a phone.
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I take a lot of astro photograph's, both with my DSLR / telescope and purpose built astro camera.. but also my phone.
I need to change some things when I take a night shot, especially of the sky.
I think if you give it a shot (no pun intended) you'll be surprised at the results.

it will take months before sensor potential is used at its fullest with Gcam, and everyone knows these have infinite issues with white balance etc for years, so those kind of flagships won't ever shoot close to what cheaper older flagships can already do after years of gcam configs development

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it will take months before sensor potential is used at its fullest with Gcam, and everyone knows these have infinite issues with white balance etc for years, so those kind of flagships won't ever shoot close to what cheaper older flagships can already do after years of gcam configs development
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I agree besides gcam, it's just unstable, things not working like wide angle, slow motion.
But for a point and shoot it's the simpler option.
I think Vs pro mode you'd get better on the stock app.
Defo agree on updates helping

oneplus explicitly stated they remove access to aux cameras in OOS12, no one pays flagship price for a point and shoot and nevermind what comes out at the end experience, u can do that on a 200$ Xiaomi and get 95% satisfaction for social media and casual browsing on large screens

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oneplus explicitly stated they remove access to aux cameras in OOS12
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How do you mean?
Auxiliary as in external?

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Question No Xperia 10 IV forum on XDA?

Hi Guys,
Will there be an Xperia 10 IV forum on XDA? I have been using the phone about a month now, and keep checking here - but these is no such forum for the device on XDA.
Regards,

If it helps in any way, I rooted my 10 IV by following what this user did to their 1 IV.
I haven't installed a ton of modules though!

It won't be helpful, but I'm very tempted by this phone, so I wonder if you would have any feedback. In particular, is the camera ok ? Did you manage to install a working version of gcam ?

nozav said:
It won't be helpful, but I'm very tempted by this phone, so I wonder if you would have any feedback. In particular, is the camera ok ? Did you manage to install a working version of gcam ?
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Yes I did! I tried out all of the versions found on the stable page, one or two would crash upon starting (can't remember which ones) but I settled for MSC's 8.1 apk since it had a toggle for ultrawide and option to use a third party gallery.
Here's two photos which are taken a few days apart (pre-root and post-root) - I can attest that the gCam is more color accurate based on my cat's fur, have to thank the Google AWB in the app for that
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Though, the 8.1 apk is missing a normal x1 zoom toggle (only x0.6 and x2), will confirm in the future if I ever manage to get the time to try other versions again.

Thanks ! That's nice (almost as nice as your cat)
Did the gcam port work with the telephoto lens ? And more generally do you find the telephoto lens useful / of good quality ?

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Thanks ! That's nice (almost as nice as your cat)
Did the gcam port work with the telephoto lens ? And more generally do you find the telephoto lens useful / of good quality ?
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Thanks and yes! Out of the provided zoom toggles, I believe the x2 one uses the telephoto, so it has been my daily driver since rooting.
It's sufficiently sharp for my uses (in fact, the gCam photo above was taken using the telephoto). Here's two more shots I just took - one from 50cm, one from 20cm.
I do have to hold very still though! Of course, it's a telephoto, and that my room's not very well lit, but I expect it should work much easier in brighter situations.

Thanks for taking the time to share these pictures, this is really useful. Both pictures look quite sharp.
This xperia 10 iv seems to tick many boxes for me : reasonable size, good screen, great battery life, decent camera with telephoto... I'm still waiting to see the reviews of the Pixel 6a, but it's very tempting.

nozav said:
Thanks for taking the time to share these pictures, this is really useful. Both pictures look quite sharp.
This xperia 10 iv seems to tick many boxes for me : reasonable size, good screen, great battery life, decent camera with telephoto... I'm still waiting to see the reviews of the Pixel 6a, but it's very tempting.
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My pleasure! After my S9+ kicked the bucket, I was deciding between the 10 IV or the Pixel 5a as both had a headphone jack and a decent battery.
I ended up picking the 10 IV since it was newer, and that the battery seemed to last forever (which it does!).
You could also consider another upcoming alternative: the Zenfone 9. While the battery's smaller by 700 mAh and that there's no telephoto, it does seem very impressive for such a small package.

If modules are like on 10 iii, try whitelist 4th or 5th module in gcam settings, it's equivalent for 0th module.
Developer says he had to disable 0th module due to crashing on some sony phones.

Amanthul said:
If modules are like on 10 iii, try whitelist 4th or 5th module in gcam settings, it's equivalent for 0th module.
Developer says he had to disable 0th module due to crashing on some sony phones.
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Thanks for the tip, I tried this out on MSC's 8.1 and it actually revealed the normal camera! Well, I whitelisted both 4th and 5th modules, so x1.1 and x1.2 options appeared, but both appear to be at the same zoom level.

Does someone know if the 10 IV has fm tuner hardware inside? The app clearly is missing. Is it region dependent, meaning the radio functionality depends on the firmware, or region dependent meaning the hardware is different? Usually the fm tuner is part of the wifi/bt chip, which in this case it`s a qualcomm WCN3990, which the manufacturer states that it does have digital fm. Tried different radio aps(fm ones, not online), none worked, still don`t know what to think of this issue. Thanks!

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Does someone know if the 10 IV has fm tuner hardware inside? The app clearly is missing. Is it region dependent, meaning the radio functionality depends on the firmware, or region dependent meaning the hardware is different? Usually the fm tuner is part of the wifi/bt chip, which in this case it`s a qualcomm WCN3990, which the manufacturer states that it does have digital fm. Tried different radio aps(fm ones, not online), none worked, still don`t know what to think of this issue. Thanks!
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Although this is obvious, I would still ask if you tried with earphones plugged in ?
Radio apps do not work without earphones plugged into the 3.5mm socket

metaxda said:
Although this is obvious, I would still ask if you tried with earphones plugged in ?
Radio apps do not work without earphones plugged into the 3.5mm socket
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Hi, I usually repair electronics in my free time, including fm transmitters, so yes, tried with the headphones plugged in . Also tried spirit radio and some other app I can`t remember right now, that are for this issue, not from play store, couldn`t find anything useful there. Still can`t tell if this phone has hardware for fm. To mention, I have not rooted the phone. Will wait & see . Other than this, nice battery time and pretty responsive device.

fyi - maybe we get a device section - at least I posted it here

I'm wondering does the 10 IV have any issues like it's predecessor (green/red tinted, flickering Screen)? Are there any other common issues.
Really considering buying it as the 10 III has these glaring display bugs unfortunately. But I wanna make sure the next phone I order isn't likely broken as well..

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feux said:
If it helps in any way, I rooted my 10 IV by following what this user did to their 1 IV.
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I'm interested in the root, so I wonder if You could be more specific with the rooting, especially Your work with the img file. Do You mean to download Sony AOSP binary? Sorry, is TWRP in unavailable for Sony Xperia 10 IV, I'm bit confused...

feux said:
Thanks and yes! Out of the provided zoom toggles, I believe the x2 one uses the telephoto, so it has been my daily driver since rooting.
It's sufficiently sharp for my uses (in fact, the gCam photo above was taken using the telephoto). Here's two more shots I just took - one from 50cm, one from 20cm.
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I do have to hold very still though! Of course, it's a telephoto, and that my room's not very well lit, but I expect it should work much easier in brighter situations.
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Cool!
Did you manage to get the front camera working? It doesn't seem to save images.

feux said:
If it helps in any way, I rooted my 10 IV by following what this user did to their 1 IV.
I haven't installed a ton of modules though!
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After root - are you still receiving OTA updates? Respectively which software version (release) are you currently on?
Thanks

we urgently need department 10IV, there are many questions ...