Stop Auto Updates on Oreo (AT&T) - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I have an SM-N960U on AT&T that came with Oreo. I have instituted network-wide blocking of the update servers but when I leave my house (and forget to turn on my VPN), the phone is fair game and it downloads the update over the air. If I leave the phone alone for any length of time, regardless of battery level it will update. I have asked AT&T multiple times to flag my line as non-update or set it as BYOD because I think that "might" stop the updates (not their phone, why would they update it?) but nothing works. I have disabled auto-updates in Developer mode and that does nothing either.
The phone has updated about 4 times now and every time I downgrade back to Oreo which is starting to get annoying (hey at least it encourages backups of the data on the phone when I copy all my documents off). I am wondering if anyone knows any way to block the updates from being downloaded to the phone. Maybe a way to modify the hosts file in the phone? Who knows, I am grasping at straws at this point.
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Install Package Disabler and disable updates. My question is where did you get a Note 9 still on Oreo? I would like to find one.
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butchieboy said:
Install Package Disabler and disable updates. My question is where did you get a Note 9 still on Oreo? I would like to find one.
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Downloaded it, hopefully it works thank you so much! Also, I have had this phone since the Note 9 came out and every time it tried to update to Pie I would downgrade again. I have read though if it updates to 10, you can no longer go back to 8.

I misunderstood, thought you just got it. And yes once your bootloader upgrades you are stuck
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Disable both of these
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I opted to stay on Pie because I am very happy with my device's performance on it. I'm on T-mobile and when the alert came for the upgrade to A10 I froze it in the queue, thus preventing the download.

I disabled both of those (and a host of other things) and the update icon not only disappeared from the status bar, its gone from the options too so I would say its working. Thank you again for the tip!
I chose to stay on Oreo because I don't like One UI. It changed too much for me and when I got the update the phone was almost two years old. I didn't feel that a phone this old (I say that because new phones seem to get released every 6-12 months) should have such a massive UI upgrade. JM2C.

chiparnerette said:
I disabled both of those (and a host of other things) and the update icon not only disappeared from the status bar, its gone from the options too so I would say its working. Thank you again for the tip!
I chose to stay on Oreo because I don't like One UI. It changed too much for me and when I got the update the phone was almost two years old. I didn't feel that a phone this old (I say that because new phones seem to get released every 6-12 months) should have such a massive UI upgrade. JM2C.
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Nougat 7.0 bugs - problems

I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
norbarb said:
I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Mine had issues when I first upgraded to nougat with mirroring but it magically fixed itself lol
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.
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I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Hi Norbarb,
Last weekend, I was on QA4 then I Odin'd back to APK1 and took the Official ATT OTA update to Nougat 7.0.
I just tested screen mirroring and it worked without any problems. Sorry, I don't have a Samsung BluRay to test.
Now the issue that I've been having is reboots. In the beginning, when I was first on N7.0 I had no problems whatsoever for a few days.
- On Feb. 20th, I kept getting a message that one of my apps unexpectedly closed. Now this app is old and wasn't even supported on MM (it's called Webcams widget) but it had worked flawlessly on MM and Nougat QA4.
- Then on Feb. 21st I had a couple of reboots happen, I went into a solid Bootloop that started in the afternoon and kept rebooting for around 10-15 times! It stopped long enough for me to actually Power Off my S7E down in the normal manner and I left it that way for around 5 minutes.
- I searched for solutions and finally ended up clearing the Cache Partition like this:
Wipe cache partition
Turn off the device.
Press and hold the Volume Up key, Home key, and Power key at the same time.
When the phone powers on, the Android System Recovery screen appears approx. 30 seconds later.
Release all of the keys.
Press the Volume down key to highlight "wipe cache partition."
Press the Power key to select.
Press the Volume down key to highlight “yes” and press thePower key to select.
When the wipe cache partition is complete, “Reboot system now” is highlighted.
Press the Power key to restart the device.
My phone went without a reboot for almost 2 days then yesterday afternoon I had one single reboot. My next test (if needed) will be to clear each app cache/data. Unless it gets really, really bad again, only then will I resort to a complete reset.
The only difference between using my phone on the official QA6 and the sideloaded QA4 is that I had turned off auto-updating for my Play Store apps when on QA4 (and earlier). I had a lot of updates occur when updating to QA6.
Doing more research today, I found an article talking about some common Nougat problems and possible fixes here.
antizombie said:
Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.
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Did you preform factory reset ?
It help me with lot of problems. Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.
Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.
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Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.
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What App did you use to disable it?
manny05 said:
What App did you use to disable it?
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Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.
I switched to OnePlus 3T today, and here are few observations guys...
Compared to Nougat on S7E... different level of speed and responsiveness, way different.
I used CM and AOSP roms in the past, on different phones, I know they fast, but this... speed demon out of the box, with MM or Nougat.
Feel bad for leaving S7E forums, but believe me guys, it is a flagship killer indeed. Unbelievable.
I will go back to Sammy with S8 only if they will be able to keep up with this kind of speed, plain and simple.
I was hoping with every generation that Sammy will get rid of touchwiz lags... new phones and new chipsets were piling up, but it never changed, unfortunately.
Touch wiz nougat is a bloody mess next to 3T nougat...
Yes yes, I know. But I never used edge panels... or OOD that much.
Peace out guys!
norbarb said:
Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.
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Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.
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Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.
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Sorry. Samsung switch will work too.
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Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.
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This... Just figured out ez disabler pro no longer works with Nougat
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Quickvic30 said:
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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I have this issue also, it keeps dimming constantly, and my blind self can't read it without manually turning up the brightness.
(Eye exam on Fri LOL)
Hello. My first post here. I have been lurking & reading for years.
I have a few of the minor issues that others have, like the colors will be washed out sometimes, pull down notifications are a bit harder to read. My main issue with this update is that my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need. That is why I got this phone in the first place. Now apps that I need to go back to later & continue working are gone. Very annoying. I assumed it was a new performance setting activated without any explanation of how it will affect normal usage. I can't find where to change that particular setting, if it is changeable at all now.
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my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need.
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settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage
Gary02468 said:
settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage
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Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Just go to settings and search for battery. Then you will see what apps you can stop to have better battery live
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Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.
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Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.
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Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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once samsung gives us 935U nougat maybe ill go back to it.

Has anyone noticed in their Note 8 or S8+/S8 what has happened to Smart Lock?

Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.
Works fine for me
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Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)
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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)
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I’ve tried this, too. I’ve also tried different locations on my street and it was working, but then stopped again. Open to other suggestions.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?
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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?
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Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate the thought, but I was trying to figure out another way. I finally got the original S Note app with Action Memo, Photo Note, Idea Sketch, Sketchbook, Easy Chart, etc. on the phone and I really don’t want to take any chances that I lose that app. It’s my favorite app for the Note. Still shocked that Samsung changed it to Samsung Notes. However, you gave me an idea. I normally wipe cache partition when I do updates and I forgot after the last security update. So I just did it and Trusted Places is working so far. Hopefully it continues. Thanks for the suggestion! If this holds up, I will let you know and then I’ll just have to remember to do that after each OTA.
My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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EVObastard said:
My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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I just tried this idea for my phone and I thought it worked, but unfortunately I was wrong. I wanted to double check to be certain because one of my work arounds to fix this issue was just rebooting the phone and making sure my location was working and then it would work. So of course since your idea involved rebooting I knew that would help my phone. I was just hoping the added step of clearing the cache would make it work permanently. Are both of your phones still working? I may just forget it and set it up for either the Google Home or mini as a trusted device because this is getting very frustrating. If you could think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again.
I had the same problem at home and I narrowed down to the GPS not locking down properly in different areas of the house. Open Google Maps and you can see.
So, the next time it stops working, simply add the trusted zone of your area again even though the coordinates are the same.
I have the same coordinates registered 4 times in my device and haven't had an issue since.
It's a stupid solution but works.
i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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I have the exact same problem! I'm not sure when it started happening, but it has annoyed me more and more over the last couple of weeks. I'll try to add my home again as a second input.
Note8 950F w/ Jan security update (nordic).
edit: it seems to work now when I've added my home two times.
I’ve actually tried all those ideas. I have a paragraph of locations including addresses as well as coordinates. I find that interesting that you mentioned about having four of the same coordinates because I noticed something quite interesting. Sometimes when they’re the same coordinates it will say it’s a duplicate and those I’ve dismissed. However, others that come up don’t come up with that message and I end up having multiple items with the same coordinates. Later on I erase them because I figure they’re just duplicates. I won’t going forward to see if that works. I’m assuming the ones the system catches as duplicates are the ones to not have included. I’m thinking about trying my home or one of my minis to use as a trusted device. I just really would like to get Trusted Places to work, but if not I think that’s the only other option since we can’t use a router as an option and I don’t have any of my Bluetooth speakers on all the time (I’m assuming those won’t work because of that). Please keep us informed in anyone cane up with any other ideas (as I’m sure you all will) and I will do the same.
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i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.
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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.
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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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I have the same issue lately (maybe 2 weeks at most so mid-March) that I've noticed Smart Lock no longer working most of the time when I'm at home or any other "trusted places". Seriously annoying because as mentioned above (by LegendSmoker) that they should allow routers to be added as trusted devices then it would solve this issue. I'm using the Canadian Note 8 (N950W unlocked) and it was fine from launch up until 1-2 weeks ago roughly and now it prompts the pattern or biometrics most of the time when I am at home. Nothing has helped so far in resolving this so not sure what caused it but hopefully it will start working again soon.
This is very annoying. I've done factory reset but the problem comes back after a few hours of use.
I've discovered something interesting, mine usually works late at night, like after 10p, coincidentally right after my AOD turns off. I've tried manually turning off AOD but that doesn't seem to help. I just realized that I have the do not disturb coming on at 10p also but my wife does not so I don't think it's that. It seems really odd though, that it works late at night, every night.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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Thanks for the quick response. I will probably wait for the OTA for Oreo since I’ve waited this long and I’ve heard rumors it’s coming very soon. Yes, I am aware that you are able to open Samsung Notes the same way you were able to open Action Memo.
The S Note app that’s on the Play Store is not the original version and is missing numerous features. While there still a few features that are better than the Samsung Notes app, if that was my choice I would’ve probably followed your lead and stuck with Samsung Notes. Luckily, I was able to get the S Note app with Action Memo installed on my phone pretty quickly and eventually found a way to get the entire S Note app that besides having Action Memo, it also has Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, and the rest. So that’s what I meant I took me some time to find a way to get the whole app side loaded and fully installed on my phone. I actually found the answer on this site. So I was trying to explain that I am somewhat worried that when I update to Oreo, it won’t work or I’ll have to do it all over again. I really hope not.
I also really hope that Samsung changes it’s mind with Samsung Notes in that either they improve the app with all, if not more, of the S Note features or just bring back S Notes. I didn’t use the S Pen really at all because I was really unaware of all its capabilities, including S Note until I upgrade from the Note 2 to the Note 3. I really think if they expanded the features of the app they would leave a lot of phones in the dust. There’s a member of XDA, tah480, who has some really great ideas on how the could really perfect S Note and make a phenomenal app. I already feel it’s probably the best app ever and with his ideas it would really be unreal.
I hope that it explains what I posted better. Also, while my phone isn’t perfect, I’m wondering if there is a weird delayed issue with location. I’ve added a lot of places in Trusted Places and will always add more every time it doesn’t let me in, but I’ll also open the Map app or ask Google where I am and then sure enough it works, but again only temporarily. It also seems to work temporarily after a reboot.
Oh and to the other post, I actually found the complete opposite about the AOD. I had mine going off at night and I changed it because I though it was having an effect on a clock/weather widget. Now it seem the Smart Lock is actually working better, still unfortunately not like it did. I’m just disappointed because I was really hoping then when I updated to Oreo I was hoping that would fix it, but it sounds like that’s not going to happen.
The only other thing that’s interesting is I notice I have a delayed issue with updating/installing apps on Google Play. They download and then they sit there and either eventually get installed or I have a workaround to get it to work. The only thing I could think about is I disabled the DT ignite (or whatever it was called before). It was my understanding that you should disable it. I’m wondering if I put it back, if these issues would start working again.

Recently used apps auto-closed overnight after Pie update

Hi guys,
Strange one this is, most of my recent apps (except the odd 4 or 5) started auto closing themselves *overnight* after the Pie update, everything is fine during day time.
This is still true after disabling Auto Optimization and Auto Restart, and locking all recent apps.
Needless to say, never had a problem in Android 8.0.
Cheers.
Same with me also
I can only imagine this would be the same for everybody -- or am I missing a magic switch somewhere??
this is normal. you have to turn off sleeping apps, or remove from that list as well as adaptive batery which is new to pie.
The more I read about this pie, the less I want it.
Fixed mine.
Setting->Device Care->Battery-> 3dot menu settings
Turn off Put unused apps to sleep.
Thanks. Will try myself.
Sadly still the same for me...
Opened apps auto closed overnight, note just overnight, day time all is fine.
Sadly still the same for me...
Apps auto closed overnight, daytime is fine.
It's the device optimisation set to run automatically every night? It is on mine
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pizza_pablo said:
The more I read about this pie, the less I want it.
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Ha trust me it's so childish, and so dull.. Everything is like iphoney kind of feel! Big childish icons! They have simplified it too much! it don’t feel good, it feels way to simplified plus they have removed so much it really sucks!
When you do get the update, let us know if you’re going to stick to it or not! As i went back to Oreo day 2 man Oreo is awesome!
device optimisation is off, so is auto restart.
is this normal behaviour for adaptive battery? in which case, it would be rather stupid design -- I want my apps (especially those locked) to stay on ready to be used anytime!
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Sadly still the same for me...
Opened apps auto closed overnight, note just overnight, day time all is fine.
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See screenshots below,
Mine is set to default 0300, to close/optimize. I set it to off.
willcor said:
See screenshots below,
Mine is set to default 0300, to close/optimize. I set it to off.
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thanks -- mine had always been off.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
When you do get the update, let us know if you’re going to stick to it or not! As i went back to Oreo day 2 man Oreo is awesome!
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I don't even want to take the update.
What county and provider are you and how did you downgrade to Oreo?
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I don't even want to take the update.
What county and provider are you and how did you downgrade to Oreo?
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UK Purchased Note 9 direct from Samsung UK.. i used SAMFIRM.EXE and Odin3_v3.13.1_3B_PatcheD to downgrade to Oreo 8.1.l it's so easy to downgrade walk in the park easy
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UK Purchased Note 9 direct from Samsung UK.. i used SAMFIRM.EXE and Odin3_v3.13.1_3B_PatcheD to downgrade to Oreo 8.1.l it's so easy to downgrade walk in the park easy
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Hopefully, I'm able to pull that off with this locked down Verizon Note 9, if the need arises.
How do you keep it from wanting to update to Pie?
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Hopefully, I'm able to pull that off with this locked down Verizon Note 9, if the need arises.
How do you keep it from wanting to update to Pie?
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Just disable auto updates from software updates menu! Also don't check for updates, as you will not be able to get rid of that annoying update notification, unless you factory reset it! It’s that simple!
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Hopefully, I'm able to pull that off with this locked down Verizon Note 9, if the need arises.
How do you keep it from wanting to update to Pie?
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Disable both Software Update .apks via ADB/AdHell3/Package Disabler app of your choice.
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Disable both Software Update .apks via ADB/AdHell3/Package Disabler app of your choice.
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I've read a lot about those, in the other threads, but none seemed reliable any more.
Maybe I'll see if I can hold off the update with AUTO UPDATES turned off in DEFROST OPTIONS and if that doesn't work, downgrade back to Oreo and then adb/Package disable.

Pie/One UI Impressions?

Using the US unlocked variant, I haven't yet received the pie update. However, just reading around, I get the general impression that the update isn't that good (buggy, lost features).
What are people's thoughts on it? Right now, I'm kinda glad I haven't gotten the update yet.
Looks like unlocked goes last for updates. I guess the carrier versions beta test for us.
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Works fine for me. Prefer it to Oreo.
djbutter said:
Using the US unlocked variant, I haven't yet received the pie update. However, just reading around, I get the general impression that the update isn't that good (buggy, lost features).
What are people's thoughts on it? Right now, I'm kinda glad I haven't gotten the update yet.
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I decided not to wait for Verizon Wireless to update my phone, and I saw a way to get it now on reddit so I pulled the trigger (go to https://firmware.science/ for instructions). It was brain dead simple.
Not sure what's supposed to be "buggy", because I have found zero issues - but then I've only had it a day now. Lost features? Not sure. Well, you can't set Performance mode any more in Device Maintenance (now called Device care), but I never changed it. And the Device Maintenance edge panel is gone, too. You can still get Battery, Memory, and Storage in settings. Also, you can schedule the phone run this automatically, now.
Night mode works (long as you're not using any theme). Battery life is impressive (lost less than 2% overnight). Edge panel icons are huge, now. Not a fan of that. At least Android Auto fully works... no more lost icon dock. That's the main reason I upgraded.
I mean, if you have examples of specifics where it's buggy or other lost functions, I'd be interested in what, but i can't complain so far.
Main issues for me
1. Multi window features are completely stripped down. No drag to popup, cant switch window positions without redoing the actions from scratch, etc.
2. Samsung Good lock customizations and routines are broken.
3. The interface is very erratic. Even Samsung apps with the interactive areas at the bottom still have the 3 dot menu at the top. Non Samsung apps anyway follow the old ui, so overall, its not that much of a benefit.
These were an integral part of my usage, so Pie is a disappointment for me at least.
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The only issue for me (and its major) is that I can no longer use Bluetooth in the car for phone calls. Connection always drops. I started another thread on this issue.
Not that impressed so far; cannot add items to quick settings menu - you can only move around the existing icons.
Lots of things now require more tapping to get there, ie simple thing like checking batter usage now needs five steps: pull down on quick start menu>press settings>press device care>press battery>press battery usage.
Would be so much easier if you could just create a shortcut to this screen??
PIE/One UI just seems change for the sake of change. I've not seen any benefits yet.
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Not that impressed so far; cannot add items to quick settings menu - you can only move around the existing icons.
Lots of things now require more tapping to get there, ie simple thing like checking batter usage now needs five steps: pull down on quick start menu>press settings>press device care>press battery>press battery usage.
Would be so much easier if you could just create a shortcut to this screen??
PIE/One UI just seems change for the sake of change. I've not seen any benefits yet.
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Put device care as an icon on home screen.
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Already have setting icon on home screen, just a pain that you cant add items to quick settings anymore...
I got Pie last week (AT&T - US) and so far I don't have any complaints. A few cosmetic things to get used to, head-up notifications are a bit different looking, but battery life is actually noticeably better.
I like it. Was apprehensive about this at first as was concerned at ruining decent battery life but this is darn good!
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RGardner said:
I decided not to wait for Verizon Wireless to update my phone, and I saw a way to get it now on reddit so I pulled the trigger (go to https://firmware.science/ for instructions). It was brain dead simple.
Not sure what's supposed to be "buggy", because I have found zero issues - but then I've only had it a day now. Lost features? Not sure. Well, you can't set Performance mode any more in Device Maintenance (now called Device care), but I never changed it. And the Device Maintenance edge panel is gone, too. You can still get Battery, Memory, and Storage in settings. Also, you can schedule the phone run this automatically, now.
Night mode works (long as you're not using any theme). Battery life is impressive (lost less than 2% overnight). Edge panel icons are huge, now. Not a fan of that. At least Android Auto fully works... no more lost icon dock. That's the main reason I upgraded.
I mean, if you have examples of specifics where it's buggy or other lost functions, I'd be interested in what, but i can't complain so far.
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If you go in Settings > Device Care > Battery, the first option is Power Mode. You can choose High Performance from there.
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My only issue so far is that Pie seems to be forcing people to create duplicate threads here on XDA asking for people's opinions on Pie, even though there's already several Pie threads here. I hope Samsung squashes this bug soon.
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If you go in Settings > Device Care > Battery, the first option is Power Mode. You can choose High Performance from there.
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Ah!! Didn't see that. THanks.
Pie is downgrade from Oreo. No real benefits. Just questionable cosmetics.
-multiwindow management is a joke
-cannot have recent apps list view
-no call recordings
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The only issue for me (and its major) is that I can no longer use Bluetooth in the car for phone calls. Connection always drops. I started another thread on this issue.
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I have tried it several times and keep going back to Oreo. I got the official OTA (At&t) thinking the minor issue I had with bluetooth would be fixed. If I'm connected to bluetooth in car there is no alert if I get a text. This doesn't exist on Oreo. I know its minor but bugs me.
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main issue here
can't use multiwindowed
video recording is laggy, compared to oreo, it's not 4k and 60fps i think
lagging using spen to write your massage
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My only issue so far is that Pie seems to be forcing people to create duplicate threads here on XDA asking for people's opinions on Pie, even though there's already several Pie threads here. I hope Samsung squashes this bug soon.
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Ha! I personally haven't seen them; they're usually beta impressions or threads for specific issues.
butchieboy said:
I have tried it several times and keep going back to Oreo. I got the official OTA (At&t) thinking the minor issue I had with bluetooth would be fixed. If I'm connected to bluetooth in car there is no alert if I get a text. This doesn't exist on Oreo. I know its minor but bugs me.
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If you go in the Bluetooth Devices list, find the car Bluetooth, hit settings and make sure that both Call Audio and Media Audio are set to ON. You may have had Call Audio off if you experienced that behaviour.
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If you go in the Bluetooth Devices list, find the car Bluetooth, hit settings and make sure that both Call Audio and Media Audio are set to ON. You may have had Call Audio off if you experienced that behaviour.
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Nope thats not the issue, thanks.
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Unlocked N9 Android 10 / One UI 2.0 BETA Upgrade

Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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What version software were you on before?
Good question, don't really see an update Log. Last update was November so I assume it was SJ1. Updates have been running around 45 to 60 days on this phone.
I will say, and unfortunately not sure this option was around on Pie, but looked up Android 10 tips and enabled Adaptive Power Saving under Device Care / Battery / Power Mode and at least for the first day it seems battery draw has improved. Time will tell.
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I will say, and unfortunately not sure this option was around on Pie, but looked up Android 10 tips and enabled Adaptive Power Saving under Device Care / Battery / Power Mode and at least for the first day it seems battery draw has improved. Time will tell.
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Can you pull the update zip and post it?
JLFitzpatrick said:
Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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Were you on a US or EU firmware?
Should be on US Firmware. Not sure what you mean by update ZIP, but see attached.
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Should be on US Firmware. Not sure what you mean by update ZIP, but see attached.
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You're using an N960U1 or an N960U but it has Unlocked US firmware on it, which just makes it an N960U1. Did you register for the beta on the Samsung Members app? Or can you tell us what your previous firmware was before you got Android 10?
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You're using an N960U1 or an N960U but it has Unlocked US firmware on it, which just makes it an N960U1. Did you register for the beta on the Samsung Members app? Or can you tell us what your previous firmware was before you got Android 10?
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I see in all these post about the beta, you seem to never get a straight answer for that :fingers-crossed: maybe someone will actually respond instead of just asking questions
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I see in all these post about the beta, you seem to never get a straight answer for that :fingers-crossed: maybe someone will actually respond instead of just asking questions
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Yeah it's kind of.....odd.??* I don't even want the beta. I just want to know what the banking schemes are for the firmware itself. It'll give us a hint IF Samsung is leaving towards a bootloader update. Which will help tell us they fixed something nasty from the current bootloader. ?
I think I did register for the Beta so that makes sense, went to the Members Center looking for something else and tapped the icon for it, never got confirmation of anything though. The upgrade notification didn't state it was Beta either. Based on dates per Samsung Phone was probably on SJ1 Pie prior to this. I assumed this was the December 1 patch when it first popped up.
Notification popped up today when opening Settings that this is the Beta, a fact not communicated by Samsung during the update. Went into Settings upon noticing the Phone which was good all weekend today at work without using it started getting hot and draining the battery. Shut it down wiped partition cache a during startup then went into Battery / App Usage and found Camera, which had not been open since last night had used 62.7% of Battery over the past 6:43 hours. Toggled on 'Put App to sleep when not in use' for Camera App and will keep an eye on this along with everything else. All other App Usage seems to be normal. Charging phone now and it has cooled down.
Realize this was the Google Camera acting up that was installed from a link on this forum and mapped to activate by double tapping the Bixby button through BxActions (Samsung Camera activates by double tapping Power Button). Explains why it was acting up after the update. I like the G-Cam night mode and have been comparing the results to the S-Cam night mode including a few shots of Christmas decorations last night.
Updated this Thread Title to reflect what this upgrade actually is. Very happy with this upgrade so far, even though it wasn't labeled as the Beta version in the notification when it first popped up. Only real glitch I've noticed besides the G-Cam battery drain episode which is no fault of Samsung being a sideloaded App, is the settings security page. Phone is setup to require security log on when Settings is opened, currently the security pattern screen flashes then goes to Settings menu without requiring login fingerprint or pattern. Lost Navigation Bar customization I assume will be recovered when NavStar is updated, there is a notification in LockStar that let's you know they're working on an update.
Received another Beta update today.
Another Beta is pending, brings Security Patch up to January 1st, will install tonight.

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