[PREVIEW]Petition for Android 11 update for Note9, S9 and S9+ - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion

Title: Galaxy S9 series and Galaxy Note 9 should update to One UI 3​.​x with Android 11.
On that terrible day, Samsung anounced the update plan for One UI 3, 4, and 5. Samsung Galaxy S10 series, S20 series, Note10 series, Note20 series, Galaxy Fold and Galaxy Z series users leaped with joy, but Galaxy S9 series and Note9 users hung their head low, because the "2 Major Updates Only" curse was still on us. All Galaxy S9, S9+, and Note9 users are disappointed by Samsung for this reasonless decision, for not provided Android 11 for a fully capable flagship device.
Both Galaxy S9 and Note9 is equipped with Exynos 9810 or Snapdragon 845 chipset, which has 10-nm Octa-Core 4x2.7-2.8 GHz+4x1.7-1.8GHz. They have epic specs, which can only be challenged by Huawei Mate20 in 2018. It is not hard to provide a full 1TB hard disk of evidence to prove that the three 2018 flagships can easily run Android 11. For example, they are fully treble compliant, which means, they have enough specs to run latest Android as long as Project Treble is alive; and it has better specs than Galaxy A01 except the camera, as A01 has 12nm Quad-Core 4x1.95 GHz Cortex-A53 & 4x1.45 GHz Cortex A53 chipset, and Galaxy A01 is in the list of One UI 3.0 update, WHICH MEANS THAT ONE UI 3.X UPDATE PLAN IS BIASED. And a low specs camera is not even possible to be a visible obstacle in the path of Android 11 update. It is astonishing, for Samsung to say that biased words on Galaxy Unpacked. Why? Simply our phone got out the box with Oreo? No. I mean it is not our fault to launch Oreo with S9, S9+ and Note9. Especially for Galaxy Note9, it is Samsung's fault. Samsung can wait one week or two, and launch Note9 with Pure Android 9+GMS, and add One UI as soon as it is ready by OTA. It is no need to launch with Oreo and toture us when Android 11 is released. This terrible decision forces us to either stay on Android 10, which is nothing but the same OS as a crappy 28nm Nokia C3, or go to custom roms which voids Knox and warranty, requires quite an amount of computer knowledge and is very easy to brick your device with one click.
We only ask Samsung to push One UI 3.x, AT LEAST ONE UI 3.0 CORE, based on Android 11 to Galaxy S9, S9+ and Note9, which has the certain right to update to Android 11. We are all going to sign this petition, not only the carriers of a Galaxy S9/Note9/S9+, but also anyone, who has their rage ignited due to the biased Samsung update policy. There is absolutely a piece of cake, as S9, S9+ And Note9 does not have custom resolution for both screen and camera, and Android 10 to Android 11 is not an enormous update, not like Windows XP update to 10. One man with a spare hour or two after work can do this in three months if enough knowledge. We strongly demand Galaxy S9 series And Note9 to update to Android 11, globally and stably.
If you have any recommendations of modifing this petition please tell me by replying. If no I will try my best to release at end of September. Thank you!

This marks the 8th petition for the same thing.

This is Pointless

How many times are y'all gonna make the same bogus petition for the same thing? If you want the newer upgrades get the devices that will get them undoubtedly or just stop whining. The note 9 isn't new or in it's prime anymore. Just stop

I already made such a petition and it's nice to see so many people supporting it. Here's the link, feel free to sign it: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones

It will not work guys

Don't worry android 11 will be portwd from s10 lite for our devices 100% . If we have a good developer. I don't know cuz I didnt test any roms yet. I stick to official

Feels like we need to have this same conversation once every smartphone generation. Recap:
Breathing life into old electronics is not good business. Samsung is a business, they're in it for the money. Introducing new features for old phones will not sell new hardware; if anything, it will cause Samsung to sell less new hardware. Less sales means less revenue. That's why it's bad for business.
Developing software for additional platforms consumes more resources; resources which could be used for advancing development of newer hardware, and better software for said newer hardware. Again, why waste resources into something that will cause you to sell fewer next-gen phones?
Let me reiterate. Samsung is a business. They will not make poor business decisions to benefit users who hang on to old hardware instead of buying new hardware. End of story.

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Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime

Samsung is rumoured to have a version called the 2K Galaxy S5 Prime up its sleeve. As the name suggests, it'll have a 2K screen, also known as QHD (as in "Quite High Definition", no, okay "quad HD"), packing 2560x1440 pixels rather than the current S5's 1920x1080.
Within Samsung's hallowed halls, the 2K Galaxy S5 Prime is said to be known by the codename 'KQ', with the model number SM-G900. A handset with that model number was recently spotted on a shipping database. It's reportedly being used for research and development purposes.
So why not launch the S5 with the better screen in the first place? That was the plan, according to SamMobile, but it was abandoned due to production issues. These are currently being ironed out, and the hi-res S5 should be with us this year.
Hopefully it is soon. It would be nice if they offered some type of trade in for all the people who might want to upgrade from the s5. I think moto did something similar with the X? They gave people the option to return theirs for a wood back one for 50 bucks or something.
Although it might not be worth it. Would need to have similar battery life or that would be a deal breaker.
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Samsung to launch Galaxy S5 Prime in June
This is what I hope:
1. At least 32GB for internal memory.
2. The replaceable/removable battery.
3. A micro SD card slot for external storage of up to 128GB.
In addition to all of the other enhancements over the current S5.
I will have no respect for Samsung if this is true. They outright said to us that there will be no "premium" Galaxy S5. If that is true, it might not be an "S5" it might be part of another series.
These are the specs released on the news.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime Specifications:
5.2” , 2560 x1440 display
2.5 GHz quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor
Andreno 420 GPU
3 GB RAM
32 GB of storage
16 MP camera
2 MP front camera
Android 4.4.2 KitKat
Another thread about this?
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hemander said:
Samsung to launch Galaxy S5 Prime in June
This is what I hope:
1. At least 32GB for internal memory.
2. The replaceable/removable battery.
3. A micro SD card slot for external storage of up to 128GB.
In addition to all of the other enhancements over the current S5.
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#3 already exists for our phone
Hellscythe said:
I will have no respect for Samsung if this is true. They outright said to us that there will be no "premium" Galaxy S5. If that is true, it might not be an "S5" it might be part of another series.
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agreed...the VP of samsung said a prime is a no-go...
if he was lying just to increase sales of the s5 instead of having people hold out, screw samsung...ill never buy from that deceiving company again....and this is coming from someone who had a s2, s3, s4, note 10, note 8, original samsung tab 10, etc
hemander said:
These are the specs released on the news.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime Specifications:
5.2” , 2560 x1440 display
2.5 GHz quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor
Andreno 420 GPU
3 GB RAM
32 GB of storage
16 MP camera
2 MP front camera
Android 4.4.2 KitKat
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Those were actually the initial rumoured specs for the generic S5... So whichever journalist dug those up should be fired for being incredibly slow.
planned marketing
Yeah they do that kind of thing all the time, release a nice phone with a few features of current technology missing, then a few months later they release one with the better tech so people upgrade. If there aren't free upgrades (which there won't be since it's not a fault) it's just a planned marketing strategy to make more money. yay!
I dont think they will release anything else to kill the S5 they have just released this year. They smart enough not to **** with those who has purchased the S5.
Analyst assumptions was the S5 Prime was to shore up their product offering before the two new iPhones launch, but now it is reported the new Prime might just be a small launch due to cost of display production.
If this is true, the iPhone 6 will likely destroy Samsung in sales. First big iPhone display and an even faster/efficient chipset than the i7, which is already faster than the S801. This might be the first time since the S2 where the iPhone trumps Samsung.
I am not an iPhone fan, so do not find this potential scenario of revived dominance a good thing. I do like the iPad Air though, in spite of my Android affliction. That said, Kitkat's killing of sd card writes ofr third party apps is making Android more like iOS....
rushless said:
Analyst assumptions was the S5 Prime was to shore up their product offering before the two new iPhones launch, but now it is reported the new Prime might just be a small launch due to cost of display production.
If this is true, the iPhone 6 will likely destroy Samsung in sales. First big iPhone display and an even faster/efficient chipset than the i7, which is already faster than the S801. This might be the first time since the S2 where the iPhone trumps Samsung.
I am not an iPhone fan, so do not find this potential scenario of revived dominance a good thing. I do like the iPad Air though, in spite of my Android affliction. That said, Kitkat's killing of sd card writes ofr third party apps is making Android more like iOS....
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I think that if Samsung released the S5 Prime, then it would anger a LOT of people.
However, I'm not quite sure how you got the impression that Apple's Cyclone based A7 chip is faster than the i7. Quite simply put, it's not.
Look at the Geekbench comparison down further on the page: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4700MQ-vs-Apple-A7
Even if the score were four times higher, it still wouldn't match up with the MOBILE version of the i7 Haswell.
Things get spaced even farther apart when you compare it to a desktop class i7 Haswell: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Apple-A7
I agree with you in terms of iPhone 6 sales outpacing that of the S5. Apple usually sells more, and has more loyal followers.
Connor Baker
P.S. If anything I've said above is incorrect, feel free to let me know.
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Will you update to the Note 9?

Samsung is going to host an unpack at NYC Aug 9th 2018,
since we missed the note 7, did not update to note 8, how about note 9?
Hi, i still have my N920C Note 5 running totally fine on Extreme Debloated ROM 3.3 since a few years now as my daily driver. I am still unsure about any major improvements to spend/waste cash and ditch my Note 5 for a newer one. However, i wish that there was a newer version of my current ROM since i'm stuck on Android 6.0 (i don't think the other ROMs are better to be honest, especially on the battery) but like i said, it's all working fine. I can still take some nice pictures and videos on Auto mode. I watched a video review by MKBHD and wasn't particularly impressed by the Note 9.
For those who are interested in the latest Note, i would advise to just wait a bit for real world usage reviews to start coming in. Don't rush to purchase something which has failed spectacularly in the past with the Note 7.
No, you'd have to be an idiot to fork up to a Samsung phone knowing that they won't support it for very long.
You're better off buying Xiaomi phones on a regular basis, for a fraction of the cost. Furthermore, becuase they use modern - medium/high end hardware, your battery lasts longer.
Samsung needs to step up their game. They don't deserve the level of trust the brand implies.
In comparison I did borrow a Xiaomi Note 5 Plus for a month ($154usd), it was significantly faster than my note 5, had Android 8.0, 10 hrs screen on time and easily 4-7+ days with quite regular usage. I don't often even get 1 anymore, depending on how I use the note 5. Our device sucks and we do not have any active rom support what so ever. All of our updates now revolve around Google's monthly security patches.
Turbine1991 said:
No, you'd have to be an idiot to fork up to a Samsung phone knowing that they won't support it for very long.
You're better off buying Xiaomi phones on a regular basis, for a fraction of the cost. Furthermore, becuase they use modern - medium/high end hardware, your battery lasts longer.
Samsung needs to step up their game. They don't deserve the level of trust the brand implies.
In comparison I did borrow a Xiaomi Note 5 Plus for a month ($154usd), it was significantly faster than my note 5, had Android 8.0, 10 hrs screen on time and easily 4-7+ days with quite regular usage. I don't often even get 1 anymore, depending on how I use the note 5. Our device sucks and we do not have any active rom support what so ever. All of our updates now revolve around Google's monthly security patches.
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4 to 7 day battery life, 10 hours of screen on time. /r/thathappened
The Xiaomi Note 5 Plus is worse in every aspect compared to the Note 5 besides modern Android support.
Seems like you bought the Note 5 for the wrong reasons.
I guess I value higher quality components over having a newer version of Android.
Got mine on order
Can't wait for root for it
in my country
note 5 $11.000
note 8 $38.000
note 9 $50.000??
where a salary avg is around $25.000, love samsung, but their prices are very high! samsung is a mother fu*k*#$ crazy!
I won't get one. I love my Note FE. Am on Oreo. Just the right size. The Note 9 is too big!
You must be crazy to invest again on Samsung.
Note 5 was my personal lesson in order to blacklist this company which doesn't respect me as a customer.
You cannot ask your customers to pay a premium price and then abandon them like this...
The company I work gave me the S9+ within the bonus list. Didn't even open the box and sold it with no regrets.
Furthermore Samsung is not leading technology in android anymore.
Want to get the best camera in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best speed in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best battery in the market , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best price/performance ratio , Samsung is not the option.
Want the best android update support , Samsung is not the option.
Want any combination of the above , Samsung is not an option...
NEVER AGAIN Samsung.

Would you still buy the note9?

Hello there!
Been a long time since I have taken a look on the forums, been a while away from samsung phones, but I still get attracted to the note 9
Read and heard some good and bad things about the note and coming from Oneplus (i have the 5) I was wondering if people would still buy the note with the knowledge you have now after using it for a couple of months..
Now with pie and the the new Samsung one ui i get even more tempted to make a switch back to Samsung..
Now with pie, yes in this context it is worth to buy. I have two, geez!!!
Note 9 is the best overall by far. So much functionality and features inside a premium device. I used 2 pixel 3, one normal and other XL, and despite the camera, I couldn't see nothing better than Note.
I'm a heavy camera user. Stock camera is great and now with Gcam working on it nothing beats this device.
In my opinion, Samsung software is the most complete at the moment.
Absolutely the Note 9 is worth it. Everything runs perfectly and pair it together with the Night Sight Gcam, there's almost no reason to look at other phones on the current market.
Cristiano Matos said:
Note 9 is the best overall by far. So much functionality and features inside a premium device. I used 2 pixel 3, one normal and other XL, and despite the camera, I couldn't see nothing better than Note.
I'm a heavy camera user. Stock camera is great and now with Gcam working on it nothing beats this device.
In my opinion, Samsung software is the most complete at the moment.
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Where can I find GCam for the Note 9?
Thanks in advance
diego9016 said:
Where can I find GCam for the Note 9?
Thanks in advance
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In these forums under the apps, themes section.
And do you use exynos or the snapdragon version?
Best phone I've ever owned! LOVE the S Pen functionality and I have had no issues at all. Not rooted and easily get 7 hrs odd SoT, all round brilliant device. I have the exynos version.
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Hands down a great Phone! EXynos!!
I'd buy it in a heartbeat today (Exynos). But that's coming form a traditional Note user. Been on this series since my Note 1 on AT&T.
Awesome Smartphone, Samsung truly has given us tons of features with this smartphone! i still got tons more to learn! Some people are saying the Huawei Mate 20 Pro is in some ways better!
i dont know if i could agree, there Amoled display are good. But not as Good as the Samsung AMOLED.. Also battery easily 7 hours on screen time and that's without root.. Huawei Mate 20 Pro they use really aggressive battery management tweaks witch leads to bugs!
The note 9 camera rocks. We had G-Cam working but the PIE ONE UI killed that. i'm sure some dev will find a way around to get it working again..
if you are after an really powerfull smartphone then NOTE9 is the way to go! if you wont gimmicks and stuff get the Huawei Mate 20 Pro!
At this point I'd save up for the Note 10. Pie should be better optimized with the hardware since its being built ground up with pie.
Rumor(hasnt been confirmed but based on "leaks"):
Bigger screen
Bigger Battery
Three cameras
Near bezel-less design.
faster charging solution
worldsoutro said:
At this point I'd save up for the Note 10. Pie should be better optimized with the hardware since its being built ground up with pie.
Rumor(hasnt been confirmed but based on "leaks"):
Bigger screen
Bigger Battery
Three cameras
Near bezel-less design.
faster charging solution
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...and probably $1800.00 based on the S10 Reports... ugh!
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...and probably $1800.00 based on the S10 Reports... ugh!
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I saw that and I just don't believe it. Samsung know the markets had changed and sales haven't been as good. I expect around 1k with some decent trade ins to boot.
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Not saying 1k+ is not too much because it is! Flagship prices are out of control.
Funny that where the O6T is priced is what flagships used to cost.
Now? I would wait for S10 to be shown to know direction of Note10 changes. Every year when S series is presented, you have glimpse about Note series design and functions, yes? So this year will be no different, and i would count on price drop of Note9, but yes - i would buy it again i think. Someone mentioned about prices - it`s getting pretty high, year after year so note9 was very expensive at start, and Note10? I can`t imagine price tag of this one. $1999 for best option (probably 10-12 gigs of ram and 1TB of space?) - nevertheless, note9 is enough for few years, maybe note 12 will be one i will look for, or note 13?
Would I buy it again? Probably yes, if the price is right. But the exynos version is imho still way behind the snapdragon version, sadly. This was thoroughly tested by anandtech for the S9+ and later confirmed for the Note 9. It's a pain in the ass to see that Samsung includes two different SOCs in their products which, this time around, provide a different user experience. The story apparently continues with the S10 and most likely the Note 10 respectively with the exynos version being the inferior version of the two, in terms of efficiency and LTE performance.
All that aside, the Note 9 is easily the best phone I've ever owned with a great and most complete set of features. If you can live with the SOC issue, the high cost and the huge dimensions of the device, you will be fine. It's a great device. Eventhough I personally don't like the PIE update apart from the gesture navigation.
here is johnny said:
Hello there!
Been a long time since I have taken a look on the forums, been a while away from samsung phones, but I still get attracted to the note 9
Read and heard some good and bad things about the note and coming from Oneplus (i have the 5) I was wondering if people would still buy the note with the knowledge you have now after using it for a couple of months..
Now with pie and the the new Samsung one ui i get even more tempted to make a switch back to Samsung..
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Only if you can get the snapdragon version. Not only it's superior for gaming, battery life, smoothness, multitasking, emulation and app loading/transitioning - but the one UI on the exynos note 9 is less smooth than even oreo, really disappointed on that one. Phone priced at 1000 euro with UI smoothness of midrange phone + they f up the multitasking on android 9 and made it like google's implementation... slow to use, not convenient to use, less features...
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OberstGrausam said:
Would I buy it again? Probably yes, if the price is right. But the exynos version is imho still way behind the snapdragon version, sadly. This was thoroughly tested by anandtech for the S9+ and later confirmed for the Note 9. It's a pain in the ass to see that Samsung includes two different SOCs in their products which, this time around, provide a different user experience. The story apparently continues with the S10 and most likely the Note 10 respectively with the exynos version being the inferior version of the two, in terms of efficiency and LTE performance.
All that aside, the Note 9 is easily the best phone I've ever owned with a great and most complete set of features. If you can live with the SOC issue, the high cost and the huge dimensions of the device, you will be fine. It's a great device. Eventhough I personally don't like the PIE update apart from the gesture navigation.
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This with both hands, snapdragon 955 will make a joke of the exynos 9820 the same way sd845 makes a joke of the exynos 9810. Also I clearly see lags in the animations in android 9, more so vs the oreo (that is actually proven to be A LOT smoother with the snapdragon SOC!!!). I am so disappointed from that SOC and the funny part is that we in Europe PAID MORE, 1000 euro is 1140 us dollars currently. SOC is like buying the most expensive computer both me and you, but I receive the best possible cpu, gpu, ssd, etc while you receive midrange cpu, gpu, ssd, motherboard and so on. There is no excuse and really important for the longevity of the phone and the experience with it... wish we had the apple's A12 in the note 9 tbh, but that's another topic (sadly I dislike a lot about apple to buy an iphone just because of the great SOC). We already see a problem with longevity (and don't me even get started on the gaming part as there is absurd difference + yes, I game on my phone), I am sure the snapdragon will be a lot smoother on the new android and UI.
@high_voltage , I agree. It's a bit of a let down that everyone despite the american users only get the second best version of the Note 9. It wouldn't be a big issue for me if Samsung in europe also provides warranty for the snapdragon variant. Sadly thats not the case and thus you are either stuck with the exynos version or you risk to get snapdragon version which might, as every phone might, develop some issues over time. In addition, Samsung makes it harder to use different phones in different regions due to their region lock.
As of now, the new snapdragon seems to be superior again but I guess we have to wait and see how it'll turn out. It wasn't always the case though, the S8 exynos version was superior to the snapdragon one based on what've read. Sadly, the One UI really fells inferior to the "old" Samsung UX, but it might get more polished over time. I still think that Samsung is able to pull it off since it has done so with the S9s when they were introduced.
So yeah, I'd buy the Note 9 again because I love the features and the SPen, eventhough I hate to be forced to spend more money on only the second best option available.
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@high_voltage , I agree. It's a bit of a let down that everyone despite the american users only get the second best version of the Note 9. It wouldn't be a big issue for me if Samsung in europe also provides warranty for the snapdragon variant. Sadly thats not the case and thus you are either stuck with the exynos version or you risk to get snapdragon version which might, as every phone might, develop some issues over time. In addition, Samsung makes it harder to use different phones in different regions due to their region lock.
As of now, the new snapdragon seems to be superior again but I guess we have to wait and see how it'll turn out. It wasn't always the case though, the S8 exynos version was superior to the snapdragon one based on what've read. Sadly, the One UI really fells inferior to the "old" Samsung UX, but it might get more polished over time. I still think that Samsung is able to pull it off since it has done so with the S9s when they were introduced.
So yeah, I'd buy the Note 9 again because I love the features and the SPen, eventhough I hate to be forced to spend more money on only the second best option available.
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Some of the things in the one UI are great and polished, but not everything and that sad, as it's literally "samsung rushed the update" type of comment shaping while they had so much time for development and beta testing...
For the exynos vs snapdragon it was like that:
s6 exynos was vastly superior to the flawed snapdragon 810 nicknamed "the oven"
s7 exynos was superior in the CPU part to the snapdragon 820 - better battery life, better CPU, less heat, better DAC (i.e. better audio via headphones), but had weaker GPU (but by not that much!). Overall better SOC!
s8 exynos was same as speed in CPU as the snapdragon 835, but less heat and longer battery life. The DAC was also better. The GPU was noticeable slower tho even in that generation. It was no clear winner, for gaming - sd variant, otherwise the exynos.
s9 exynos is where all fall apart - CPU is a lot slower in real world (and all benches except geekbench too, mind you), the GPU is roflmao slower, the DAC in the new snapdragon 845 is vastly improved and similar to the wolfson/lucky in the exynos, battery life on the snapdragon is better WHILE being faster. The only part where the exynos is still better is that in heavy loads the phone is colder and... that's all. This year the difference was absurdly big to the point that every single review before launch was snapdragon variant as samsung send ONLY those to the popular reviewers.
Sadly, and I am talking as a "tech heavy" person that is really into electronics as a hobby and professionally - the new exynos 9820 will still lag behind even by samsungs own projections. Read a lot, it will be worse in every department vs the snapdragon 855 and both will be vastly behind the apple's A12, more competing with the iphone X A11. Sad story, really... this samsung practice should be more exposed so they can stop it. Every person on that forum that had both variants infront of him said the same thing: "I came prepared for a difference into this, but didn't expect it to be that big!" then returned the exynos while keeping the snapdragon 845 one.
Without hesitation I absolutely love my Note 9(Snapdragon). It's battery is nearly on the level of my V20 with an extended battery. With the Pie beta so far the device is on a level of its own. If you have the opportunity just buy it.

Galaxy note 20 ultra advise please

Hi guys. I was a huge Samsung fans for years, I left Samsung for LG and later huawei when I had pink lines on Samsung screens. I wanna get back to Samsung cause Huawei no longer has Google. I have held a note 10 plus in my hand and loved the feel and looks. But currently in my country I can't really get new notes 10 plus. I was looking at a note 20 ultra. I haven't seen anyone with it and shops don't have yet for display. When I do reviews people keep saying is huge compared to note 10 plus (when I see specs does not look much). I want your guys advice deciding in what to get. Is note 20 ultra, really huge and feels huge compared to note 10 plus? What's pros and cons from someone that had both, and should I try look for a note 10 plus or should I just go with 20 ultra?
The N20U is not much bigger than the N10+. Both are very nice phones.
Hubby has a N10+ with the Samsung SpiderMan case.
Since Samsung and Google have worked out a lot of the bugs in Android 11, I enjoy using the N20U more.
Android 11 is not my favorite Android OS (scoped storage), lol.
N10+ has Android 10.
N20U should receive updates for 3 years, I think.
You could debloat or root the phone...
I debloated my N20U, and use F-droid apps, and some apps from XDA developers.
S pen was moved to the left side of the N20U, and the power/volume buttons on the right side.
The camera bump is weird.
I currently have a stock 10+ running on Pie.
Pie is better than 10 or 11 with no scope storage.
The 20U is the only other Samsung I would consider until Samsung and Google gets their heads out of their ... .
A used 10+ in good condition at around $600 is a good deal. Running on Pie it's very stable and fast.
The battery isn't that hard to replace if you take your time with the rear cover and use isopropyl alcohol for that and the battery adhesive strips.
Had to resort to google search to understand what scoped storage is and from what I can see it's not necessarily a bad thing for users when it comes to security. Am i missing something?
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Had to resort to google search to understand what scoped storage is and from what I can see it's not necessarily a bad thing for users when it comes to security. Am i missing something?
What is Scoped Storage in Android?
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Not needed. Wastes cpu cycles and your time for nothing.
In over 7 years using Androids have I ever had a malware issue scope storage would have help mitigate. In fact no forced factory resets due to malware, viruses or rootkits.
So why would I want to slow down my device and use more battery?
What's next an embedded CCP vivus detector?
BY FAR THE WORST PHONE I HAVE HAD FROM SAMSUNG SINCE THE MEGA!!!!!
I JUST BOUGHT A NOTE 8 TO REPLACE THIS JUNK!!!!!!
malebornin69 said:
BY FAR THE WORST PHONE I HAVE HAD FROM SAMSUNG SINCE THE MEGA!!!!!
I JUST BOUGHT A NOTE 8 TO REPLACE THIS JUNK!!!!!!
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Lol, good you didn't get the S21U...
All you can do is back step to avoid stepping in the muck. For both Samsung and Android 2021 was a real bad year. 2022 doesn't look much better particularly for Android.
As long as the Note10+ Snapdragon is running on either Android 9/10 it's a fast, rock solid stable Note with one of the best displays out there.
I have 2; the oldest is over 2 years old running on 9. It looks and runs like new with one battery replacement. The newest one is 2 months old running on 10. To my pleasant surprise its UI looks and behaves almost identically to the one running on 9. Scoped storage is not active. Battery life is the same or maybe slightly better than the 9 variant.
It has over 100 more small Samsung system apks that Samsung used to preserve the UI compared to the 9 variant. It was a successful mode which is an impressive clean up of Google's mess. Samsung wasn't able to do near as well with Android 11 or 12 unfortunately.
Both my N10+'s will never run higher then Android 10 to preserve their UI and functionality.
I rejected the N20U because of it's variable refresh rate display (the N20U has a lower color rendering index), and display issues have been observed on all these newer post N10+ displays.
No 5G and no 5G issues which has also been problematic in implementing.
Android 11 is not an acceptable OS and 12 is even worse.
No cam hump but still has an excellent cam system. It's 7mm profile makes casing and holding the N10+ easier.

Comparing samsung s20 fe (snapdragon) to Huawei p30 pro (2020)

Hi, I am new here and need some advise.
I am choosing between Huawei P30 PRO (2020) and Samsung s20 FE (snapdragon). Key features of importance are camera, battery life, screen quality and performance. I am really having troubles with choosing between the two handsets.
Would someone share their opinion, especially if the choice was similar to mine or based on your experience of a specific handset over time.
Many thanks
I think Huawei is finished giving android updates to it's phones, heard they're moving to their in-house OS that has android app compatibility. at the moment you can side load play store (can't remember if the P30 was before the ban and ships with PS), in the future who knows. I'd take a look at each phones sub reddit before spending any cash. neither is perfect. some have been unlucky with screen issues, many have had none at all on their FE. I have them myself.
if you plan to keep the phone a while that should be a factor in your choice. very slow custom rom and mod development on the FE, Huawei is bound to be livelier.
I have both these phones and they are both great. I got the P30 Pro New Edition when it came out last year. It's still fast and has great battery life and the cameras are very good. Huawei are still updating it with security patches (quarterly I think) and it got EMUI 11 about 3 months ago. But EMUI 11 is still based on Android 10 and don't expect the Android version to be updated even if the EMUI version does. Also coming later in the year is the update to Harmony OS which may (or maybe not) remove all Play Store access. Personally I'm looking forward to Harmony OS as it will be nice to be running something different and I also own the...
S20 FE 5G. This is also a good device with decent cameras and battery life. It feels less premium in the hand compared to the P30 Pro but that's because it is a less premium device! It has a plastic back and a flat screen compared to glass back and curved screen on the P30 Pro - some may well prefer both of these differences on the S20FE. Updates are more frequent on the Samsung - monthly - and they have committed to it being updated for another couple of Android versions. Personally I would lean towards the S20FE because of the long term support on both devices, the P30 Pro may well be OK but we can't be sure what will happen in a couple of years.
I own both because I use the desktop mode on both phones and, if your bothered, DeX (Samsung) is slightly better than Easy Projection (Huawei) but both do a decent job if you are interested.

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