If the Pixel 4 and Pixel 5 have the exact same camera, how can the Pixel 5 possibly give better results?
The Snapdragon in the 4 is much faster than the one in the 5, so computational photography should give an edge to the 4.
Will Google just reserve some proprietary algorithms for the 5? Or is there a secret graphics chip in the 5 that I haven't heard about?
They added a wide angle lense to the 5 as far as I've read.
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Isn't there 3 cameras on the back? On the leaks we can see 3 of them, at least I hope.
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Isn't there 3 cameras on the back? On the leaks we can see 3 of them, at least I hope.
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2 lenses + 1 flash and one ir focus or laser?
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Same main sensor, but a wide angle instead of a zoom.
All of the software tricks should make their way to the P4, either through updates or via Cstark
If your only reason for upgrading is the camera then it's not worth it. The only reason I can think of to go from the Pixel 4 to the Pixel 5 is the bigger battery and getting the fingerprint sensor back.
I pre-ordered my Pixel 5 this morning but I'm coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
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If your only reason for upgrading is the camera then it's not worth it. The only reason I can think of to go from the Pixel 4 to the Pixel 5 is the bigger battery and getting the fingerprint sensor back.
I pre-ordered my Pixel 5 this morning but I'm coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
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I'm glad you said this. I just got the pixel 4 and love it. I don't care for the wide angle lense. The bigger battery would be nice but I get great battery life from my P4. I think I'll stick with the 4 until the 6 comes out.
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I'm glad you said this. I just got the pixel 4 and love it. I don't care for the wide angle lense. The bigger battery would be nice but I get great battery life from my P4. I think I'll stick with the 4 until the 6 comes out.
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I don't really care about the wide angle either. I'd much rather have the telephoto. I liked that the Pixel 4 had that but the way too small battery on both the Pixel 4 XL and especially the smaller Pixel 4 and the face unlock were deal breakers for me so I stuck with my Pixel 2 XL another year.
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I don't really care about the wide angle either. I'd much rather have the telephoto. I liked that the Pixel 4 had that but the way too small battery on both the Pixel 4 XL and especially the smaller Pixel 4 and the face unlock were deal breakers for me so I stuck with my Pixel 2 XL another year.
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Yes I rode my Pixel 2 XL for as long as I could but some of the apps I used responded to slowly on the GP2XL. I handed it down to my daughter. I love the pixel 4 and the face unlock is awesome. I will say that I got tired of carrying around a big cell phone in the 2xl. So the P4 is a perfect fit.
Having got a pixel 5 and 4xl I naturally compared some photos.
Pixel 5 seems to get white balance right more.
HOWEVER when you pixel peep right into a photo I find the 4xl shots have fractionally more detail rendered.
For example a tree on the horizon has more branches clearly defined on the 4xl
Text on a sign in the background or on books on a shelf are less blurred on the 4xl too.
Video is a bit better. Telephoto is handy but the quality isn't as good as the main camera. It also doesn't save at 16mp but 12mp.
For normal photos for me it's the same thing no matter the Pixel gen I use.
But already know this personal opinion before purchasing them
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Well for me I notice some fractional changes from model to model.
The pixel 5 however isn't producing quite as detailed shots as my 4xl when looking closely. Side by side it's identical until you pixel peep at the details.
The ultra wide isn't that good either. Tends to lack details and colour accuracy compared with the main camera.
The zoom is no way near as good as the 4xl.
In the end pixel 4 users be warned to consider not to 'upgrade' for the camera.
I'm waiting for the 6 and hope they upgrade the camera hardware.
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I'm coming from the Pixel 3 (not XL) and just got my 4XL today. I noticed my 4xl's display is not as saturated as my pixel 3's. Anyone else coming from the Pixel 3 notice it as well? I know the smaller pixel 3 had an LG panel and the 4 XL has a Samsung panel so I'm sure that's why but looking at them side by side, my 4 XL's colors look more washed out. It also doesn't seem as bright as my pixel 3's
Yes! I noticed and also slow motion have so much grains not pretty clear.
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I'm coming from the Pixel 3 (not XL) and just got my 4XL today. I noticed my 4xl's display is not as saturated as my pixel 3's. Anyone else coming from the Pixel 3 notice it as well? I know the smaller pixel 3 had an LG panel and the 4 XL has a Samsung panel so I'm sure that's why but looking at them side by side, my 4 XL's colors look more washed out. It also doesn't seem as bright as my pixel 3's
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Yes! I noticed and also slow motion have so much grains not pretty clear.
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The screen is great on my 4XL, I've had all generations of the pixel phones (XL variants), the only real disappointing screen for me was the 2XL. If you are getting noise or grain on your images, that is probably due to low light situations which is to be somewhat expected. The 4XL has a very decent panel, the only thing it might lack is a bit of extra brightness.
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I'm coming from the Pixel 3 (not XL) and just got my 4XL today. I noticed my 4xl's display is not as saturated as my pixel 3's. Anyone else coming from the Pixel 3 notice it as well? I know the smaller pixel 3 had an LG panel and the 4 XL has a Samsung panel so I'm sure that's why but looking at them side by side, my 4 XL's colors look more washed out. It also doesn't seem as bright as my pixel 3's
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Are both phone's colors set to the same option? Natural, Boosted, or Adaptive?
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Hi,
I had to choose between the OP8T and the Pixel 5. I come from the OP6.
Pixel 5:
Pros:
- Size
- Google Software (GCam + Pure Android) (I heard that the Pixel Base on CAF not AOSP. Is that ture?).
- Nice Support. (I got Problems with my Pixel 1 and I get first the replacement phone before I send my old back).
- Fingerprint sensor on the back and you can pull down the notificationbar
- Wireless-Charging
Contra:
- Just 18W Charger
- No 256Gb Version
- Lose a lot of nice Features (Hope the Pixel 6 will get smaller and updated sensors like project Soli)
I can not judge the Battery life. If the SD765 get 8-10h Screen-on-Time, I cant life without the SD865.
OP8T:
Pros:
- 65W Charger
- 256GB UFS 3.1 Storage
- SD 865
Contra
- No Wireless-Charging
- Never had contact with the OP Support, but I heard it's not good.
- Size, 6.0-6.3" would be perfect
What you guys think?
I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
The oneplus camera is also the same as the previous two versions. And being a op user myself for the past 4 years I would go for the pixel just because of poor camera performance in anything but the brightest light as well as the software.
Once your op device is over a year old they tend to give it lesser preference when it comes to updates. And that too many bugs. I have had to deal with op support on one occasion unfortunately and trust me you would not even want to deal with them should things go wrong!
Ultimately it is the user's preference what they would like to buy. It you are a very heavy gamer wanting to play the most intensive games at the highest frame rate then go with snapdragon 865. Mind it the 765 will also play them well but with the occasional drop in frame as mobile chipsets are already quite powerful. But if like most you are in for the day to day software experience and camera then go with the pixel.
Note that camera sensors have not improved that much for mobiles and that is why the Google pixel camera is still amongst the best though a few other manufacturers have caught up to theirs. This is evident on the oneplus as well since they too haven't changed their primary sensor since the past two years!
i got mine today! I have to say a very fine, beautiful device
cultofluna said:
I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5
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i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro
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i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro
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Just curious.. why are you going to Pixel 5 from 8 Pro?
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The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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And yet the camera performance is still very impressive., it is much better than it was on my 1+ 7t that's for sure.
I would most likely have gone with another oneplus if it weren't for the crap camera. 2 of the 4 cameras are utterly rubbish and the rest only perform satisfactory in good light. Any dark or tricky light conditions (UK weather) then damn!
Oneplus software used to be the closest to stock android experience before their latest update. Also once another 2 devices get released after a year then your device treatment becomes third class!
Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2, which is much better than the modern ones found on every OnePlus device!
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Levi4cyber said:
Also no 120Hz refresh rate (not that someone can distinguish between 90 and 120 hz).
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I switch from the OP6. But I have to choose between P5 and OP8T
Fun thing is that Google is using the same camera sensor for a long time indeed but it's so damn good!
After the Nexus days I've been a OnePlus fan until now..
I had the 6, 7, 7T pro and recently the Nord.
Last week i decided to but the 4a and i love it, my first point and shoot picture blew me away.. so much better then OnePlus without Gcam.
OnePlus is using the same 48mp sensor on many devices and it still sucks..
And updates are taking longer and longer and getting kind of useless.
The 4a got me thinking back off the time we had Nexus and i got excited again.
People keep telling themselves they need a 8 series cpu and believe me.. you don't.. at least most people won't.
The 765g is really great in everyway and even the 730g performs really well.
I also love the smaller size and i love being back on stock Android.
So the fact that pixel got more affordable, got smaller sizes but bigger batteries got me all hyped again and my 4a will go to my partner and i myself will probably buy a 5 next week.
The price difference with the 4a is big and that keeps me thinking but the differences make the device perfect for me.
So for me no 8T although it's a great device and price as well but again the same ****ty camera.
90 or even 60hz is enough for me, fast charging is awesome but not important.
And i love the smaller size so i don't want to go back to 6.5"
Anyone got any true comparison to the camera quality of these 2 phones ? I've always had Pixels literally from the Pixel 2 onwards but I'm not convinced with the camera innovation on the Pixel 5 in fact if anything I'm finding the pics rather dull even compared to my 4XL and my 3XL.
Compared to my wife's Note 20 5G my P5 takes way better photos. I have tested both side by side. I think the cameras are similar on the S20fe and Note 20.
Not to mention the P5 has a far superior OS and better update support.
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Compared to my wife's Note 20 5G my P5 takes way better photos. I have tested both side by side. I think the cameras are similar on the S20fe and Note 20.
Not to mention the P5 has a far superior OS and better update support.
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Are the Samsung pics oversaturated etc as normal ?
Not really but you can tell they look different. I prefer how the P5 pics come out
i have s20+ and p5. samsung still sucks in the camera department. about 1/5 photos from my s20 look "pretty" good. they just can't get processing right.
my p5 always takes amazing photos.
there is no contest.
Hello everybody,
I am currently using a Pixel 4XL, which is still in perfect shape.
It is a great phone and i am loving it, however there are a few things that are starting to get annoying, mainly:
- face unlock is great, but we are wearing masks all the day out of home (and i think we will have to for many months)...so it is a pain to unlock the phone: i wish I had a fingerprint scanner like my previous Pixel 3a xl.
- battery life is quite terrible...i cannot use 90hz screen if i want some sort of decent battery life...seems like Pixel 4a xl is great for battery life.
- design and weight: Pixel 4 XL really weights more than 3a xl (and so 4a 5g). Pixel 4a 5g has the same screen real estate but is more compact.
- 64gb vs 128gb
Aspects that make me worry about the switch:
- i love taking a great amount of fast point and shoot pictures; i fear that Pixel 4a 5g will be considerably slower in processing many pictures taken in few seconds, since it has a slower processor and no dedicated core.
- screen quality: i think that Pixel 4a 5g has a great brightness level, but i don't know if screen quality can be a problem coming from 4 XL (4k vs fullhd). pixel 3a xl had a bad panel, it was one the main reason that forced me to change phone.
Someone here switched to Pixel 4 XL to Pixel 4a 5g?
I look forward to some opinions, thank You all!
Hi . I switched from 4xl to pixel 5 . Had it One Day. Misssed out faceunlock. Bigger Side. Better speakers. Better screen.
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Hi . I switched from 4xl to pixel 5 . Had it One Day. Misssed out faceunlock. Bigger Side. Better speakers. Better screen.
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Thank you for your feedback.
When i am out of home face unlock makes me mad, because i have to wear a mask, but it is indeed a great feature (if Google would have decided to have also a fingerprint scanner on the back the phone would have been perfect).
My fear is to miss screen quality (4k, unfortunately most of the time 90hz is disabled to save battery) and processor performance, especially in elaborating pictures since the dedicated core is missing in 4a 5g and 5.
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Thank you for your feedback.
When i am out of home face unlock makes me mad, because i have to wear a mask, but it is indeed a great feature (if Google would have decided to have also a fingerprint scanner on the back the phone would have been perfect).
My fear is to miss screen quality (4k, unfortunately most of the time 90hz is disabled to save battery) and processor performance, especially in elaborating pictures since the dedicated core is missing in 4a 5g and 5.
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just flash linage os or pixeldust and you will get much better screen on time. save the pixel 4xl.
I received a 4A 5G from Google for participating in special Pixel event just before the phone launched. It's a nice phone and if I didn't have my 4XL I would be "okay" with it. I used it for a day or two and put my sim back in my 4XL. It's just a half step back in my opinion, haptic motor, screen, speakers, speed, just overall a compromise. I love that Google does an affordable phone but they need to drop a real specced out phone in 2021....PLEASE
Hey Pixel 5 owners, greetings from Ukraine!
I had been using Pixel 4A for quite a while, but the battery started draining fast, and even the battery replacement didn't help.
That's why I switched to Realme 9 Pro+, but sometimes I pick up my 4A, and it's much more pleasant to use for me even though Realme has better specs.
I'm considering going back to some Pixel, and since the Pixel 6 is bigger and heavier than I like (and looks like it's quite buggy), I'm thinking of buying a Pixel 5 having that nice plastic back with a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner I like. The size and weight are also great.
However, it's been two years since the Pixel 5 was released. Still relevant? Refurbished Pixel 5 vs. new Pixel 5?
Thank you!!
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Hey Pixel 5 owners, greetings from Ukraine!
I had been using Pixel 4A for quite a while, but the battery started draining fast, and even the battery replacement didn't help.
That's why I switched to Realme 9 Pro+, but sometimes I pick up my 4A, and it's much more pleasant to use for me even though Realme has better specs.
I'm considering going back to some Pixel, and since the Pixel 6 is bigger and heavier than I like (and looks like it's quite buggy), I'm thinking of buying a Pixel 5 having that nice plastic back with a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner I like. The size and weight are also great.
However, it's been two years since the Pixel 5 was released. Still relevant? Refurbished Pixel 5 vs. new Pixel 5?
Thank you!!
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The Pixel 5 is no longer available new from Google. I bought mine new to replace my old Pixel 2, and it's been a solid phone. If you don't mind a slightly larger device with 6GB RAM vs 8GB, the 5a is a solid device, and has a higher capacity battery. Either way, both are very solid phones. I dislike the Pixel 6 so I won't be upgrading.
If you can find a good conditioned Pixel 5, absolutely!
I LOVE mine.
I was probably going to grab a Pixel 6a considering the Tensor chip and smaller size, but the 60Hz screen is a full on no-go for me. I mean hell, the Pixel 5 has a 90hz screen..
But yea if you don't mind a little bigger phone, the 5a looks promising.. I prefer the smaller sized screen on the 5 though.
I'll easily wait for the Pixel 7 to see if I like it. For now, the Pixel 5 is still getting me 10+ hours on a full charge. (lite user here..)
Stock ROM + AOSP MOds FTW.
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I'll easily wait for the Pixel 7 to see if I like it.
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thanks for sharing! That sounds like a plan... grabbing a P5 or P5A and waiting for the P7 reviews to decide on upgrading.