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Can't decide whether to get a Moto X or wait for the new Nexus

So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?

Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.

Depends on what the screen size is on the new Nexus. If it's 6 inches then I might opt for the X.

If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.

knitler said:
Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.
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Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).

Chris Hansen said:
Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).
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None of which really would appeal to me unless I was looking at the Note.

I think you misunderstood... I'm saying that if it comes with those specs in something like a 5.2" housing, that would be amazing. I don't want a bigger phone either, my old 5.5" was too unwieldy, 5.9" is just impractical.
If you did understand, then I don't know what you want in a phone. Because if a better quality, higher resolution display, more RAM, a larger battery, wireless charging(, for possibly a cheaper price) don't appeal to you, then I don't know what else would set apart a phone with an almost identical OS.

I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.

I'm interested to see about the Droid Turbo, Nexus and Z3.

Mayze23 said:
If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.
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Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.

Alaris said:
So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?
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If you don't need a new phone right this second, I can't see why you wouldn't just wait until the new Nexus device comes out. Then you can compare two devices that you actually know what they are, rather than comparing a device that exists, with a device about which there are only leaks, rumors, and speculation. That kind of doesn't make any sense.
In any case, that's what I'm doing. I want to see what the next Nexus device is like first.
Besides, some rumors suggest the new Nexus device will be announced in two weeks. If not, it will still probably be sometime in the next couple months. Doesn't seem like a big deal to wait.

dboss007 said:
I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.
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Same here. I can't make a decision until I see what everyone has to offer.

larryvand said:
Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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Where are you getting this info? Almost everything I've read shows that the iPhone 6 is outselling the 6+ as much as over 4 to 1 in some places.
I would agree to try something out before dismissing it. But after handling a Note 3 and briefly owning an OPPO Find 7a, I can say, that, unless the Nexus manages to be the same dimensions or smaller than my G2 was, I won't be picking up an N6.

larryvand said:
Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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I truly believe that this is not a good indicator of how the phone/tablet/phablet market will trend. It's an Apple product, people will buy it regardless of what it is because it's new and it's by Apple. Period.

Well, now you know: This is the Motorola Nexus 6

Trade question

Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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cracjackson said:
Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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The resolution of the N6 screen is 2560x1440 pixels and consumes battery power.
Unfortunately the higher resolution is not used.
Unless the price is very low, keep your Moto

NLBeev said:
The resolution of the N6 screen is 2560x1440 pixels and consumes battery power.
Unfortunately the higher resolution is not used.
Unless the price is very low, keep your Moto
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There would be no cash difference just a straight trade phone for phone
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I'd honestly trade. The Nexus 6 CPU is more powerful. Add dual front facing speaker's. 100% stock Android. Me personally I'd jump on it.

miketucky350 said:
I'd honestly trade. The Nexus 6 CPU is more powerful. Add dual front facing speaker's. 100% stock Android. Me personally I'd jump on it.
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Yea that's what thinking also even though its a year older its still a beast of a phone. Plus I can get 7.0 a lot sooner then I would with the moto x
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Definitely. It's a beast, runs 7.0 like a champ. My Nexus 6 is 1.5 years old and still has no problems getting 2 days on battery.

cracjackson said:
There would be no cash difference just a straight trade phone for phone ..,,
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I understand. The only reason I would change my N6 to a Moto x is portability.
The N6 is a great phone but it's rather large and the back is not flat.
An advantage for you could be that the N6 is planned to get Android 7.
I don't know if the Moto X will be updated.
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My Nexus 6 is 1.5 years old and still has no problems getting 2 days on battery.
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My N6 is 21 months old.
Out of the box the battery wasn't that powerful.
Battery life less than 1 day. Cause: amoled display.
For a better battery life I had to make changes:
1. root access to allow RRO-layers with dark themes.
2. Alternative apps with dark theme (f.i. no Gmail but Aquamail)
3. A custom kernel (Franco's kernel)
4. Debloating/delete not used apps.

cracjackson said:
Currtenly using the moto x pure. A friend offered to trade me his nexus 6. Would that be a righteous trade or should I just keep moto x pure? Both are 32gb model.
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As someone who has both devices in house (roommate has the Moto X Pure), it was a tough decision. However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. For you, the question may not be the LCD, so what is most important to you?
Processor? 32-bit quad-core 805 vs 64-bit hexa-core 808.
Camera? 13MP with OIS vs 21MP w/out it. (For me, the OIS was more important than sheer megapixels.)
Screen? 5.96" AMOLED vs 5.7" TFT LCD. Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them.
Expandable storage? Moto X Pure has it. Nexus 6 does not.

Have all the current updates at timely matter. ROM options battery life performance. The moto x battery isn't that great and I'm dirty unicorn ROM.
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cracjackson said:
Have all the current updates at timely matter. ROM options battery life performance. The moto x battery isn't that great and I'm dirty unicorn ROM.
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Then you already know what you should do. Trade for the Nexus, as the timely updates is one area Motorola fails at. The Pure hasn't even been upgraded to 6.0.1 from 6.0. Just keep in mind that cloud storage is your friend with a 32GB Nexus.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
As someone who has both devices in house (roommate has the Moto X Pure), it was a tough decision. However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. For you, the question may not be the LCD, so what is most important to you?
Processor? 32-bit quad-core 805 vs 64-bit hexa-core 808.
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The 805 is actually a better chip than the 808, despite the model number being the wrong way.
The 805 has 4 VERY STRONG (and cool running) 32bit cores.
The 808 has 2 "OK" 64bit cores + 4 "REALLY CHITTY" 64bit cores. All VERY HOT running. They do NOT all add up to 4 strong 32bit cores.
"butbutbut SIXTYFOUR BITZ!!!". And what, precisely, do you use a phone for that benefits from 64bit CPU? Are you software transcoding videos? Nope. That's all done in dedicated hardware blocks.
Camera? 13MP with OIS vs 21MP w/out it. (For me, the OIS was more important than sheer megapixels.)
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Sheer megapixels is meaningless once you pass the point where they're bleeding into each other (which we are WAY beyond).
Screen? 5.96" AMOLED vs 5.7" TFT LCD. Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them.
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The AMOLED will use a lot less power,
The TFT will **LOOK BETTER**, since it uses backlight+filter and doesn't LIE about its resolution (The Nexus 6 is really only 2560x720).
Expandable storage? Moto X Pure has it. Nexus 6 does not.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
However, I went with the N6, because of the screen @NLBeev loves so much as well as the camera. . Both have the same resolution of 2560x1440, which means NLBeev won't like either of them. ....
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Message received ?
I admit.....displaying pictures is great ?

@doitright: And you felt it necessary to dissect my post because? *shakes my head*
1. Have you ever heard of these things called "examples"? They're really refreshing things as they serve to illustrate concepts that the average person might misunderstand. The questions are all examples pointing back to the most important question: what is most important to you? As noted in reply to the OP, not everyone is going to focus on the display or the camera. The OP got it, because in his response he didn't touch on anything physical whatsoever. He instead focused on the biggest benefit of the Nexus/Pixel line: timely updates.
2. Seriously, you are preaching to the wrong person. The OP would benefit from the additional information you provided, however you chose to quote me, meaning you addressed me. Address him, because I have the device I want.

Okay so I did the trade got the phone plus $50 and a case lol not a bad deal I'd say. And it's running 7.0
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I appreciate y'all input on the matter thanks a lot guys.
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cracjackson said:
Okay so I did the trade got the phone plus $50 and a case lol not a bad deal I'd say. And it's running 7.0
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@doitright: And you felt it necessary to dissect my post because? *shakes my head*
1. Have you ever heard of these things called "examples"? They're really refreshing things as they serve to illustrate concepts that the average person might misunderstand. The questions are all examples pointing back to the most important question: what is most important to you? As noted in reply to the OP, not everyone is going to focus on the display or the camera. The OP got it, because in his response he didn't touch on anything physical whatsoever. He instead focused on the biggest benefit of the Nexus/Pixel line: timely updates.
2. Seriously, you are preaching to the wrong person. The OP would benefit from the additional information you provided, however you chose to quote me, meaning you addressed me. Address him, because I have the device I want.
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1) Examples are worthless if they are incorrect.
2) This isn't your thread, read the name on the first post and you will know who this thread is for.

Pixel 2

I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?

8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Definitely worth it. Only thing you're downgrading from is the screen resolution which you'll barely notice. Everything else will be an upgrade from the N6
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8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Depends ... My bad price level starts at 500?

I got the Pixel 2 XL and am extremely happy I did, I have not regrets and would do it again, although I had to swallow twice on the price. Knowing I have a phone that will last 3-4 or more years made it easier. It was the biggest screen, dual front speakers, and not a proprietary manufacturer that loads tons of bloat. :good: Those were my priorities.
I was seriously considering OnePlus because of development support, until their latest (and continual) spyware escapade. No! No! No! - bad juju - once burned twice smart

So I started the reasons not to buy 7 pro thread

And now I took the plunge and ordered the 12gb nebula blue version lol
I'm bracing myself for rma hell, touch sensitive, ghost touch, camera, stuttering,battery, heating and overall quality control issues. Hope it's a worthy replacement to my 512gb midnight black note 9 which has been flawless. Looking forward to giving my final verdict.

I guess you got ?. BTW... There is already topic about this.

Yeh this phone is complete ****, that's why I love it!

insomnia77 said:
Looking forward to giving my final verdict.
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Looking forward to not reading it.

Why would replace your flawless phone that's not even one 1 year old?

Debopam.exe said:
Why would replace your flawless phone that's not even one 1 year old?
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Only reason is for no notch and larger display. I upgrade when new notes or galaxy phones come out with larger displays then previous but since note 10 has a notch oneplus only other option. If the 7 pro is good I don't see a need to upgrade for a long time because the display cant get any bigger now. So I hope it doesn't disappoint since I've been happy with Samsung.

B3311 said:
Looking forward to not reading it.
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Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.

you have to like the OnePlus 7 Pro for its bootloader unlock potential
Bootloader unlock and unobstructed screen are the best two points of the OnePlus 7 Pro, IMHO. If you live in the US, buying Samsung flagships is frustrating due to bootloader locked Snapdragon variants. If you focus on the positive benefits of the OnePlus 7 Pro, you'll be satisfied.

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Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.
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Me neither. Also will appreciate a more critical review, just not yours. You gave a long lists of reasons in your previous thread to not buy it without ever having held the device. So why should your review carry any weight?

Samsung S2,S6,S7e,S8+ user and this was the only device that swooned me away from Samsung. You're gonna love it. (With some minor withdrawals if you enjoyed some of the Samsung add-ons)
Also, don't approach the purchase with negativity, but with anticipation.

insomnia77 said:
Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.
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Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.

Bracing for stuttering ?? And your coming from a note 9. That's priceless ??

Eric214 said:
Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.
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Well that sounds encouraging. I did notice less complaints over at the oneplus support forums and I'm looking forward to getting it, now that it's getting more polished.

insomnia77 said:
And now I took the plunge and ordered the 12gb nebula blue version lol
I'm bracing myself for rma hell, touch sensitive, ghost touch, camera, stuttering,battery, heating and overall quality control issues. Hope it's a worthy replacement to my 512gb midnight black note 9 which has been flawless. Looking forward to giving my final verdict.
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My phone is flawless.. This is what happens when you listen to all the problems that only a certain few are having.

Eric214 said:
Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.
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My phone is flawless.. This is what happens when you listen to all the problems that only a certain few are having.
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The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone. I'm wondering how much loyal people will be if they keep increasing the price with each successor. I had the first oneplus phone on release. For the price it was ahead of their time. They should of fixed all the bugs before releasing this one because people's expectations are higher now especially since they loose their value fast.

I just bought my oneplus 6T a few months ago for 550. Last month I upgraded to my OnePlus 7 pro for 669 with 8 gigs of Ram and 256 Gb of UFS 3.0 memory. I paid about 150 more. So in what world is that double the price. And OnePlus 7 buyers are actually paying LESS. Coming from a Samsung user OnePlus is one hell of a bargain.
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The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone. I'm wondering how much loyal people will be if they keep increasing the price with each successor. I had the first oneplus phone on release. For the price it was ahead of their time. They should of fixed all the bugs before releasing this one because people's expectations are higher now especially since they loose their value fast.
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The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone.
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For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?

B3311 said:
For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?
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The prices of these phones will keep going up as long as the big mfrs (SEC/AAPL) keep raising theirs. I got a 1TB S10+ ceramic for $1279 and that was $$$ but the original price of $1599? And don't even get me started on folding phones. Had one preordered because, well you know, I'm a sucker for it I guess. But times are changing and it seems like innovation is slowing down. I mean, come on, how much more do they expect (a phone) to do?!

B3311 said:
For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?
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https://www.oneplus.com/ca_en/7pro#/
you tell me if im trolling. 1300 tax in canadian for a oneplus 7 pro 12gb. you guys in the u.s, have it better. phones used to be alot cheaper not that long ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjADegQIDBAD&usg=AOvVaw38QpgMMMqp4s_AUQawqk7W
The OnePlus One was officially unveiled on*23 April 2014*for a limited release on 25 April: described as a "flagship killer", its prices were set at US$299 and US$349 for the 16 GB and 64 GB models respectively—which one critic estimated was roughly half the price of the then recently unveiled Samsung Galaxy S5.-

insomnia77 said:
https://www.oneplus.com/ca_en/7pro#/
you tell me if im trolling. 1300 tax in canadian for a oneplus 7 pro 12gb. you guys in the u.s, have it better. phones used to be alot cheaper not that long ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjADegQIDBAD&usg=AOvVaw38QpgMMMqp4s_AUQawqk7W
The OnePlus One was officially unveiled on*23 April 2014*for a limited release on 25 April: described as a "flagship killer", its prices were set at US$299 and US$349 for the 16 GB and 64 GB models respectively—which one critic estimated was roughly half the price of the then recently unveiled Samsung Galaxy S5.-
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You do know that OnePlus One was released with an open source CyanogenMod (No software team expense) and with everything mediocre apart from the processor??
And OP1 is what OP7 is right now, not OP7Pro.
And I don't know if OP7 is launched in Canada, but where I live, it's currently almost half the price of S10 as on amazon (US$890 for S10 8G 128GB, US$475 for OP7 6G 128GB).

Are you getting the new Pixel 6?

This is for those that have the current pixel 5. Now that the specifications for the pixel 6 have been released, are you thinking of getting it or keeping the existing pixel 5?
I'm not a fan of the larger size of the pixel 6. Also if the rumor price of $999 for the pixel 6 vs $699 for the pixel 5 is true that's way too much.
The free Google photo storage also is over as well.
I've gotten ever new Google phone since the nexus 6 and pixel 1 but the new pixel 6 may be the first one I pass on. I also have 5g already

If I update phones, I will be passing on the Pixel 6 I believe.

I finally ordered the Pixel 5 and got it back in May. My LG G7 One will likely lose security updates around October, & I got to thinking about chip shortages and the inevitable price increase that brings. I had the money saved, so I bought direct from Google. I wanted to experience the Pixel "special sauce" with their cameras at least once.
The other reason is live transcription. I'm hard of hearing so if I can have another tool in my pocket to use along with Bluetooth enabled hearing aids, I thought why not? Having just invested all that money on the 5? I will observe from afar how well the 6 does, maybe I'll get to try one?

mikeprius said:
This is for those that have the current pixel 5. Now that the specifications for the pixel 6 have been released, are you thinking of getting it or keeping the existing pixel 5?
I'm not a fan of the larger size of the pixel 6. Also if the rumor price of $999 for the pixel 6 vs $699 for the pixel 5 is true that's way too much.
The free Google photo storage also is over as well.
I've gotten ever new Google phone since the nexus 6 and pixel 1 but the new pixel 6 may be the first one I pass on. I also have 5g already
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I did a search for phone with a display of 6.1 and below with a body of 150mm height max. The P5 is 144.7 or 5.7" and 150 is just under 6". There are only 4 of them currently 3 of which are iPhones. The iPhone 12 Pro (and the new iPhone 13) are both 146.7 or 5.77". Price will be the same pretty much as the P6. I'm sure I can get $450 off on Black Friday and so...
The only time I had an iPhone is when my son cracked the bottom of his and couldn't get a decent trade-in. I used it on my second line for about 6 months and I was not overly impressed with the OS or damn near anything about it. But the size is right, the display is magnificent, and the battery lasts as good as anything I've seen. I think that Apple might want to market the 13 Pro to the Android crowd come BF. There are a lot of folks rebelling on Reddit regarding the larger size only and even 9to5 said this was a good move by Google to abandon the smaller footprint.
I don't know... I don't root any longer and haven't in 4 years or so since I bootlocked the 5X. Someone talk me down.

truefluke said:
I finally ordered the Pixel 5 and got it back in May. My LG G7 One will likely lose security updates around October, & I got to thinking about chip shortages and the inevitable price increase that brings. I had the money saved, so I bought direct from Google. I wanted to experience the Pixel "special sauce" with their cameras at least once.
The other reason is live transcription. I'm hard of hearing so if I can have another tool in my pocket to use along with Bluetooth enabled hearing aids, I thought why not? Having just invested all that money on the 5? I will observe from afar how well the 6 does, maybe I'll get to try one?
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What if Google is going to be smart about it & let this year's Pixel 6 & Pro be "the big ones" & next year we'll see another #Pixel5 sized follow up, the #Pixel6a ?

I think that might be a little too late. Those that want a smaller device will have left the fold. They made their bed now they sleep in it. I know a lot of people are happy and a lot of people not so much. But business is business and the bottom line is how much money do they make. I'm looking elsewhere, we shall see.

Same. Won't be Apple, unless it's a second device. Never know.
But I am sad that Google went this route.
I'd like a phone.
Not a Phablet.

andybones said:
Same. Won't be Apple, unless it's a second device. Never know.
But I am sad that Google went this route.
I'd like a phone.
Not a Phablet.
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I know what you mean about Apple. I'm so invested in Android too. I haven't rooted in years and could still do it with my eyes closed. I'm really bummed.

bobby janow said:
I know what you mean about Apple. I'm so invested in Android too. I haven't rooted in years and could still do it with my eyes closed. I'm really bummed.
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It really is unfortunate.
I've been a loyal HTC fan since my first smart phone, HTC Eris. Followed by many others, Inc1, Inc2, Inc4, Rezound, Thunderbolt, M7, M8, M9, 10, and pixel 5, considering Google bought up half of the HTC team.
So naturally the Pixel 6 was a big excitement for me.
I suppose maybe I'll consider an older device, like Samsung depending on what they have going on. I do like my brothers S21.

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It really is unfortunate.
I've been a loyal HTC fan since my first smart phone, HTC Eris. Followed by many others, Inc1, Inc2, Inc4, Rezound, Thunderbolt, M7, M8, M9, 10, and pixel 5, considering Google bought up half of the HTC team.
So naturally the Pixel 6 was a big excitement for me.
I suppose maybe I'll consider an older device, like Samsung depending on what they have going on. I do like my brothers S21.
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I just checked and I still have my Eris in the drawer. There was one after that slightly larger, forgot the name. I have every one still including the Thunderbolt, the Nexus and everything in between, and all work except for the S4 which got sort of blown up when the battery exploded. It still turns on and is still rootable since I didn't flash the firmware that disabled root. Lol. But did you root the Eris and over clock it to 750hz like I did?
The S21 didn't sell well and is 6" body so just wondering what kind of ongoing support it will have. Samsung is trending toward 6.2 and larger. That being said, the P6 is about 1/2 inch larger than the P5 (6.3 vs 5.7.. hmm that's .6") so I'm wondering what it will feel like. If they thin it out substantially it might be doable but it's not an automatic purchase like it would have been at 6" or below. Their reasoning is seems is people are using their devices as full entertainment and lifestyle options and not just for checking the occasional email and text. But like you, it's taken the thrill of the release out for me.

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I just checked and I still have my Eris in the drawer. There was one after that slightly larger, forgot the name. I have every one still including the Thunderbolt, the Nexus and everything in between, and all work except for the S4 which got sort of blown up when the battery exploded. It still turns on and is still rootable since I didn't flash the firmware that disabled root. Lol. But did you root the Eris and over clock it to 750hz like I did?
The S21 didn't sell well and is 6" body so just wondering what kind of ongoing support it will have. Samsung is trending toward 6.2 and larger. That being said, the P6 is about 1/2 inch larger than the P5 (6.3 vs 5.7.. hmm that's .6") so I'm wondering what it will feel like. If they thin it out substantially it might be doable but it's not an automatic purchase like it would have been at 6" or below. Their reasoning is seems is people are using their devices as full entertainment and lifestyle options and not just for checking the occasional email and text. But like you, it's taken the thrill of the release out for me.
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Dang bro! That's impressive. I really wish I had kept a few of my favorites! Especially the Eris. Eris is how I got to being on XDA. I wanted Android 2.1, and like a few, ended up flashing a leaked image and was stuck on it and couldn't roll back, and had to wait for the official and deal with the bugs. But that was how I got into rooting/theming/modding, and pumped that baby up to 750hz as well, and been here ever since!
Testing S-OFF for the Rezound with the "paper-clip trick" was interesting!
Man, the S4 as well. I had the S3 and S4, and ended up selling my S4 with the rootable software that I kept like yourself. After I sold the S4, it ofc because really sought after, and I almost re-bought it but couldn't justify the price on Swappa. Incredible 2 and M7 were a few other favorites. I do still have my M8 and 10 but the 10s battery is donso, making it a non-used attached to the walla MP3 player.
Good points about the S21, and it is a bit large, and def. heavy compared to the P5. I think my main reasoning for mentioning it is because I really wanted to try Samsung again since the S4. I actually bought the S20 International version, and was close to paying for Bootloader unlock, but then I found out that I wouldn't get 5g on Verizon. Though, from my understanding I would of been getting low-band 5g, but can't say. But I haven't seen 5g on my P5 in my area yet.. lol
I'm hoping like you that Google slimmed things down enough to make that .6" not such a huge difference. But as you said, normally it would be an almost automatic purchase. I'd possibly sell my M8, and probably keep the P5, and grab the P6.

Having a hard time reading that font @andybones sorry. What I did today was go into a Costco with my P5 and line it up with all the phones out now.. Everything is big. The only thing that was comparable was the 12 Pro but it was definitely thicker. If you have time or the desire check out the phone sizes it's eye opening.
Anyways here is a blast from the past..

bobby janow said:
Having a hard time reading that font @andybones sorry. What I did today was go into a Costco with my P5 and line it up with all the phones out now.. Everything is big. The only thing that was comparable was the 12 Pro but it was definitely thicker. If you have time or the desire check out the phone sizes it's eye opening.
Anyways here is a blast from the past..
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Sorry my friend, let me try a different shade of Purple, if not I'll go back to Green.
(I deleted you post above this, as it was just a quote of my post, I'm guessing due to my color choice)
P.S. is this purple shade any better?
Man that really is a blast from the past! Too awesome! SetCPU!
I'm still using Root Explorer, love it.
Unless you or any others have another suggestion.
I will try and get to a BestBuy/Walmart/Verizon, etc and check out the devices. It's very unfortunate to hear this. :-(
I'll use this green if the Purple is too much of a pain.

andybones said:
Sorry my friend, let me try a different shade of Purple, if not I'll go back to Green.
(I deleted you post above this, as it was just a quote of my post, I'm guessing due to my color choice)
P.S. is this purple shade any better?
Man that really is a blast from the past! Too awesome! SetCPU!
I'm still using Root Explorer, love it.
Unless you or any others have another suggestion.
I will try and get to a BestBuy/Walmart/Verizon, etc and check out the devices. It's very unfortunate to hear this. :-(
I'll use this green if the Purple is too much of a pain.
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On the computer purple is ok but with the dark theme on the phone it's hard to read. Green is much better. I still use root explorer too, I haven't found anything better. I opened setcpu just now and changed the speed from 750mHz to 862 and crashed the Eris. Forgot how nice it is to be able to just pull the battery and reset the device. It has a 3.2" display with a 4.5" body. Tiny little thing that still works on wifi. I also just fired up the other small device and found it to be an HTC Incredible. No OS on that one but it does take me to recovery fine where I can flash a rom if I needed. It's fun revisiting this stuff.
I actually didn't see anything other than the iPhone mini that was as small or smaller than the P5. I'm assuming that the display size is measured diagonally and the body of the device a separate measurement. The 6.1" displays aren't too bad if they go full body so that's why I'm thinking it might be possible depending on how much bezel there is. But after you go to a store let me know what you think. I literally took out my P5 and measured them side by side. But the guy there was kind of creepy and hovered over me so I'll do it again at another store later this week.

Pixel phones are 5G locked outside target markets... Because I like to keep up with the last technology, I'll move away from the Pixel line so that I can use 5G on Brazilian operators. I'll miss the camera though.

I'm not sure, what the pixel 5 has taught me is I really don't need a top tier phone and am perfectly fine with middle of the road. Honestly, that thinking has opened up the market for me.

Ducter said:
I'm not sure, what the pixel 5 has taught me is I really don't need a top tier phone and am perfectly fine with middle of the road. Honestly, that thinking has opened up the market for me.
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I feel the same. As long as it would have an amazing camera.

@andybones Are you by any chance watching the Apple presentation? Slick as can be. Google has their work cut out for the P6 release. 6.1" iPhone 13 Pro. Just sayin'. lol No pricing as of yet. No touch id only face, not thrilled about that.
edit: Pro $999 base- Pro Max $1099 Available on Sept 24th. I'll wait until the P6 drops