Huawei Mate 40 Pro, Pro +, Mate 40 RS, Hands On - Huawei Mate 40 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi everyone. I recently long time follower, new poster. I have been very interested in the Mate 40 Series. I'm Currently using the P30 Pro.
I recently Came across a Chinese Youtuber hokoonho who has been making very good hands on videos of these handsets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0xrV-HJesU&t=1084s Mate 40 Pro+ vs Mate 40 Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DoXyH1AdMU Mate 40 RS
The videos are in cantonese. I speak a little cantonese, so I understand about 80% of what he is saying.
I was Initially interested in the Mate 40 Pro+ for the 10x optical zoom, however, the Mate 40 Pro+ does not have the same ultrawide as the Pro or RS instead having a freeform lens with less distortion, however is a narrower aperture.
Specs: (same great 50MP f/1.9 for all 3)
Mate 40 Pro - 20mp Ultrawide f/1.8 , 12mp f/3.4 5x optical Zoom
Mate 40 Pro+ - 20mp Ultrawide f/2.4 (freeform), 12mp f/2.4 3x optical zoom, 8mp f/4.4 10x optical zoom
Mate 40 RS - 20mp Ultrawide f/1.8 , 12mp f/2.4 3x optical zoom, 8mp f/4.4 10x optical zoom
Per the youtuber in his use experience, the ultrawide on the Pro+ suffers in low light conditions compared to the Pro which is as expected especially with higher noise levels around the edges. He is also saying, despite the higher megapixel count and brighter aperture of the 5x optical of the Pro, that it cannot compare with the zoom capabilities of the 10x optical. Again as expected.
What do you guys think? Would you sacrifice for a dimmer ultrawide to gain 10x optical zoom on the Pro+, or go best of both worlds but pay for the RS in which you get the 10x optical zoom and the brighter ultrawide?
I know the P40 Pro Plus also has 10x optical zoom also, but the video performance is such a huge leap on this Mate 40 series, and I take videos all the time.

I never knew the Pro had a fast lens on the UWA , but I will still go for the Plus+ .The RS seems the perfect choice, but the price is too much.

For me the Pro+ has the wider ultra wide lens 14mm vs 18mm (Pro) which makes this much more versatile camera setup albeit slower f/2.4 aperture.
I moved away from Huawei P30 Pro when they only offered a narrower field of view with the Mate 30 Pro. P40 Pro etc..
The Pro+ could make me consider replacing my Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra but waiting to see more examples of how good the ultra wide lens is

Has the Mate 40 Pro + been released? I am finding very little to no information on it. Only find info on the Mate 40 Pro.

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K20 Pro telephoto lens

Why does the K20 Pro click only 6 megapixel images with the telephoto lens in normal mode but take 8 megapixel photos with telephoto lens in portrait mode?
no difference here. 8MP in both modes

Are zoom values between 1x and 5x optical or digital?

I know the P30 Pro has a 5x optical zoom, and anything over 5x is digital.
If I pinch and zoom to, say, 2.3x, is that basically 1x with some digital zoom?
Yes it is only digital. A lens in a smartphone normally only has one zoom range. The P30 Pro has 1x and 5x as I know
Sort of. 4X mixes 5X and 1X. It gives the 5X and then merges in the 1X digital zoom for the borders. If you compare the center of the image to the edges, you'll notice.

I need camera reviews,

Hi guys, I wanna purchase the Huawei p30 Pro as I listened too much regarding to its camera specification, what's about your experience regarding these mobile phone in terms of Camera or you wanna suggest other mobile in the same range? jbbattery portugal
Yes, it has a good camera. Huawei p30 pro comes with the triple rear camera setup which includes 40-megapixel wide angle lens, 20-megapixel Ultra Wide Angle lens, and 8-megapixel telephoto. P30 pro has a 32-megapixel front camera which gives Ultra HD clear selfie photos. It has a 5x optical zoom lens.
Thanks @khotabutta35 for your review. Really Appreciated your time.

Question Terrible camera quality

I'm so disappointed in the photos from the telephoto lenses of this camera. Even at 1x, there is so much noise in every photo, even in outdoors on a sunny day everything looks like an oil painting. Did they give me a faulty device because I got a student discount (costed $1360 AUD 256GB) is this a common issue? Pretty disappointed with the camera of this "flagship" phone...
The photos are 1x, 1x cropped, 10x and 19x zoom.
I'm not seeing an issue.
The last one looks like cam shake and/or a bad AF lock.
The thing is even when holding still taking photos the post processing always oversharpens it and makes it noisy
Tristan17 said:
The thing is even when holding still taking photos the post processing always oversharpens it and makes it noisy
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Digital zoom sucks but look at the size of the optics. It's no L70-200 f/2.8 IS telephoto!
Shooting RAW will get rid of that... or at least you can with post editing.
Samsung doesn't have good photo editing tools, that pisses me.
My stupid S4 had a better photo editor than my 10+ which has none. WTF?
Maybe I'm missing something... probably not
That's fair but I wish they didn't oversharpen every photo, it would look much better like gcam does a way better job
Tristan17 said:
That's fair but I wish they didn't oversharpen every photo, it would look much better like gcam does a way better job
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That cam should be better than my 10+.
The 10+ does an excellent job, but digital zoom is not one of them.
Close the distance. Know the limitations of the camera; see the world as it does and your photos will improve immensely.
Even with pro equipment this is true.
Look at the stunning photos grabbed over a century plus ago with very limited technology.
A good camera helps but in the end it's more about who's shooting.
True thanks
Relax and enjoy it...
Try wide angle on a brick house or a picket fence and see how it does. Two of my favorite test subjects after people.
Don't enable vivid in screen mode if that's an option as it blows out colors.
Yeah I've got my screen set to amoled photo and I have gotten some good photos already thanks for the feedback

			
				
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Nice to see another Orient here...
Wow nice man it's a great watch haha
Yall old timers!
P. S. Just kiddin, the older ones look superb!
I totally agree with the OP, the S21U camera is definitely not a 2021 flagship camera. 10x zoom softens the image like crazy (everything becomes hazy & lacks of contrast) and the noise in all cameras is too much, especially in low light conditions.
blackhawk said:
Digital zoom sucks but look at the size of the optics. It's no L70-200 f/2.8 IS telephoto!
Shooting RAW will get rid of that... or at least you can with post editing.
Samsung doesn't have good photo editing tools, that pisses me.
My stupid S4 had a better photo editor than my 10+ which has none. WTF?
Maybe I'm missing something... probably not
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I recommend you try Snapseed app (free, owned by Google), have look on YouTube for videos on Snapseed and you'll see how good it is at editing photos
Snapseed is indeed a great editor!
And all of you guys who are hating on the ZOOM cameras of the phone, ya'll just don't understand how lenses and cameras work in general, that's why the s21U cams annoy you. Especially in low light... It is absolutely normal and it is still better than anything else at this size and functionality.
The fact that you have this kinda photo power in a phone in 2021 is in it self amazing.
In general I think that S21 Ultra have most versatile camera setup in market (at least at the moment when I've ordered phone), but sometimes I've had that feeling that details are not the best e.g. when zooming some photos. I guess it's exynos thing, because details are better on snapdragon versions.
BTW I'm happy to see so many Orient owners.
I did a video comparing the S20u vs S21u cameras and it's VERY subjective. Some of the shots on the S20u are better, some on the S21u are better, but all in all, they both don't compare to an actual camera, yet still blow away any other phone by comparison.
The biggest downfall I see is when people bash on the zoom lens, saying it's grainy.. and it's like.. yeah.. can any other phone out there even come close to a focal range this thing has? It's still a further reach zoom than anything else regardless of quality which is only improving between the S20u and S21u when it comes to zoom.
Which you can see that the image processing on the zoom lens out of the box on the S21u is worse than the S20u, but the clarity at further reach on the s21u pulls ahead over the s20u
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Snapseed is indeed a great editor!
And all of you guys who are hating on the ZOOM cameras of the phone, ya'll just don't understand how lenses and cameras work in general, that's why the s21U cams annoy you. Especially in low light... It is absolutely normal and it is still better than anything else at this size and functionality.
The fact that you have this kinda photo power in a phone in 2021 is in it self amazing.
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Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. I have been shooting with slrs and dslrs for decades, also owning numerous lenses, so I guess I know a bit about photography hardware. Yet again, I am not comparing apples to oranges, namely dslr quality with S21U quality, but instead comparing S21U quality with my 2020 p40 pro photos and believe me there is a HUGE gap over there. The p40 pro was a 2020 flagship and it's photo quality is miles ahead the S21U in various aspects, the most important being low light performance in all cameras, as well as zoom quality etc. Had the p40 pro not been a deal breaker due to no GMS (huawei USA ban etc), I would not change the device for the S21U. I did know though that there would of been a small downgrade in photo quality when I decided to switch to S21U, yet hoped for a good trade off with the 10x zoom instead of 5x, as well as a true uw lens, as compared to the merely uw on the p40 pro (18mm only), but we are talking about a huge difference over here in terms of quality,i mean, even my previous p20 pro which was a 2018 device was capturing much more detail in low light, yet still noise free.
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Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. I have been shooting with slrs and dslrs for decades, also owning numerous lenses, so I guess I know a bit about photography hardware. Yet again, I am not comparing apples to oranges, namely dslr quality with S21U quality, but instead comparing S21U quality with my 2020 p40 pro photos and believe me there is a HUGE gap over there. The p40 pro was a 2020 flagship and it's photo quality is miles ahead the S21U in various aspects, the most important being low light performance in all cameras, as well as zoom quality etc. Had the p40 pro not been a deal breaker due to no GMS (huawei USA ban etc), I would not change the device for the S21U. I did know though that there would of been a small downgrade in photo quality when I decided to switch to S21U, yet hoped for a good trade off with the 10x zoom instead of 5x, as well as a true uw lens, as compared to the merely uw on the p40 pro (18mm only), but we are talking about a huge difference over here in terms of quality,i mean, even my previous p20 pro which was a 2018 device was capturing much more detail in low light, yet still noise free.
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When I spoke of cameras and lenses, it is because I too have such tech and like photography.
And honestly, the Huawei just seems to have a different post-processing. Which amps up the "structure" a bit and makes things appeared deeper and more detailed. But that's just my 2 cents. Maybe I am wrong.

Question x90 pro plus front camera (Selfie)

I have a question , the x90 pro plus have the AUTOFOCUS on the front camera (selfie camera) ?
No it doesn't. Also the 2x camera has no autofocus.
Only main camera, ultrawide and 3.5x have autofocus.
extremecarver said:
No it doesn't. Also the 2x camera has no autofocus.
Only main camera, ultrawide and 3.5x have autofocus.
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my ex x70 pro+ had autofocus on all rear cameras ( ultrawide , wide , 2x and 5x camera) Only the front camera didn't have autofocus, like x90 pro plus ... Bad news for me
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No it doesn't. Also the 2x camera has no autofocus.
Only main camera, ultrawide and 3.5x have autofocus.
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Wtf are you talking
Main lens and ultra wide and also 3.5 all of these have auto focus only the 10x lens does not have it
Haha, first show me the 10x lens.... Then try again focussing if you like with manual focus and see which lenses exist and which have autofocus...
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Haha, first show me the 10x lens.... Then try again focussing if you like with manual focus and see which lenses exist and which have autofocus...
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Dude, are you simple? He obviously means that you can't double tap to manual focus when using the 10x zoom. It just doesn't work. For 2x it does work.
I retried the 2x lens focus - now it's working. So sorry I was wrong about that. But before the trial update it clearly wasn't working in the gcam mods - I'm not finding them anymore right now - but focus was missing in camera2 api and some screenshots of that should still float around here - and I cannot bother with the stock camera too much anymore - I really hate both colour modes so I use gcam mainly now.
If the 3x zoom lens has autofocus, then a digital crop of it (10x) must have autofocus too. Simple, or do I need to dig deeper?
I checked on gsmarena and NOW , it show that ALL LENS on the rear of x90 pro plus have Autofocus
50.3 MP, f/1.8, 23mm (wide), 1.0"-type, 1.6µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, Laser AF, OIS
64 MP, f/3.5, 90mm (periscope telephoto), 1/2.0", 0.7µm, PDAF, OIS, 3.5x optical zoom
50 MP, f/1.6, 50mm (telephoto), 1/2.4", 0.7µm, AF, 2x optical zoom, OIS
48 MP, f/2.2, 14mm, 114˚ (ultrawide), 1/2.0", 0.8µm, AF
I had checked before opening this topic and it indicated 2x lens "NO AF"
For the selfie (front) is confimed that not have AF ... Bad
"No autofocus" is not bad. It means that it's a fixed focus lens. That's a special type of lens where a relatively wide range is always in focus. For a selfie camera, that's an advantage, because the subjects in selfies are usually within the same range and the camera does not need time to focus. No danger of missing the right moment (eyes closed etc.) or getting blurred images because of missed autofocus. Therefore the fixed focus lens is a better choice.
For me is bad ... My ex ex p40 pro have AF with 32mpx on front camera , my ex vivo x70 pro plus have 32mpx with no AF on front camera , the front camera of x90 pro plus is the same of x70 pro plus (Samsung S5KGD2 sensor)
Overall quality is quite low vs p40 pro , on the front camera ... For me
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"No autofocus" is not bad. It means that it's a fixed focus lens. That's a special type of lens where a relatively wide range is always in focus. For a selfie camera, that's an advantage, because the subjects in selfies are usually within the same range and the camera does not need time to focus. No danger of missing the right moment (eyes closed etc.) or getting blurred images because of missed autofocus. Therefore the fixed focus lens is a better choice.
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And you are wrong ... X90 pro+ have autofocus on front camera ... I tried just a Second ago with my new vivo

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