Is buying a Bootloader unlocked device safe - Huawei Mate 40 Pro Questions & Answers

I happened to see a mate 40 pro device which is a global version but had its bootloader unlocked. Will it remain secure and operate as mentioned by the company or does it have any negatives.

Anything with an unlocked bootloader has less security compared to a device with a locked bootloader. If you plan to do confidential things with your device with an unlocked bootloader, some services will not let you use them due to an unauthorized modification of the device. An example would be applications that rely on safetynet or have services that detect an unlocked bootloader, root, and/or custom recovery. Other than that, the device should work and operate normally under any other circumstance. If you wish to get an pre-unlocked bootloader device, i recommend you to flash magisk, as that will hide root, and the unlocked bootloader status on the device so you can still do your every day things without booting you out due to an unlocked bootloader.

Thanks for your suggestions High on Linux, would help find instructions on how to flash the Magisk on Mate40 pro

Barross said:
Thanks for your suggestions High on Linux, would help find instructions on how to flash the Magisk on Mate40 pro
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From what i have seen, there isn't an official method to flash a custom recovery or magisk yet on this device in particular. I personally don't own any huawei devices either but since this device is fairly new, you could start seeing some progress being done within the next two to three months depending if numerous developers own this phone or not.

Thank again

Barross said:
I happened to see a mate 40 pro device which is a global version but had its bootloader unlocked. Will it remain secure and operate as mentioned by the company or does it have any negatives.
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Today rooting and android device doesn't bring any benefits.. it was used for old gen smartphones where ppl used to miss features but now you can have it without some root.. + if you have root many apps will detect it and you will encounter many many problems espec. with payment apps or bank apps etc.. making even more trouble ..

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v21: Root/Unlocked Bootloader + TWRP?

Hi! When I got my R1 HD, I wanted to get Lineage OS and TWRP. I tried everything including:
adb "fastboot oem unlock",
SP Flash Tool, and
DirtyCow R1-HD Tool,
yet I found no luck. Does anybody know how to get an unlocked bootloader and TWRP on an R1 HD v21? Thanks!:good:
P.S:
My "Custom build version" is:
BLU_R0011UU_V21_GENERIC. Also, this is not the Amazon Prime variant, however I got this from Amazon (for example: I get no ads).
Sorry to tell you, but version 21 of the ROM cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted. The more recent updates have secured the phone so that none of the previous methods you mention work anymore. The phone is no longer being manufactured and Blu does not provide a process for unlocking the bootloader as some other companies, like Motorola, do. So even though you paid more to get the no ad version, you can't root it. 8-( This was only possible in the earlier versions of both the amaon and non-amazon models.
yaconsult said:
Sorry to tell you, but version 21 of the ROM cannot be bootloader unlocked or rooted. The more recent updates have secured the phone so that none of the previous methods you mention work anymore. The phone is no longer being manufactured and Blu does not provide a process for unlocking the bootloader as some other companies, like Motorola, do. So even though you paid more to get the no ad version, you can't root it. 8-( This was only possible in the earlier versions of both the amazon and non-amazon models.
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So, can I revert back to an earlier version of the ROM where it is possible to unlock the bootloader?
PastThePixels said:
So, can I revert back to an earlier version of the ROM where it is possible to unlock the bootloader?
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no, the signed updates are incremental so, the checksum verification will pervent flashing old version
OK.... What's the best thing to do now?
I found this option in my updater that says "Local updates". Maybe this can help?
PastThePixels said:
OK.... What's the best thing to do now?
I found this option in my updater that says "Local updates". Maybe this can help?
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No, sorry - there is no known way to root or flash modified software after the phone has been upgraded with factory software. You can't go back. And, even if you could, it wouldn't help - it still couldn't be rooted or flash a modified ROM. Blu does not offer to unlock bootloaders the way some companies, like Motorola, do. Your phone is stuck with what you have now.
The best thing to do now? Enjoy your cheap android phone with great performance for the price!
yaconsult said:
No, sorry - there is no known way to root or flash modified software after the phone has been upgraded with factory software. You can't go back. And, even if you could, it wouldn't help - it still couldn't be rooted or flash a modified ROM. Blu does not offer to unlock bootloaders the way some companies, like Motorola, do. Your phone is stuck with what you have now.
The best thing to do now? Enjoy your cheap android phone with great performance for the price!
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Well, is there at least a way to skin the phone (ex: change bootanimation, remove bloatware (Yes, there is still bloatware apps, and I'm talking REMOVE the apps, no uninstall for user only), remove the Adups spyware) so that it is just like stock Android?
PastThePixels said:
Well, is there at least a way to skin the phone (ex: change bootanimation, remove bloatware (Yes, there is still bloatware apps, and I'm talking REMOVE the apps, no uninstall for user only), remove the Adups spyware) so that it is just like stock Android?
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No - all those things require root, which you can't get. Only the phones that were shipped with earlier versions of the ROM and hadn't been updated over-the-air could be unlocked and rooted.
Related. I have an 8GB phone; Custom build:
BLU_R0010UU_V8.7_GENERIC 05-08-2017
I've been trying to install TWRP (and then Lineage) but I'm having zero luck with SPFlash. I've tried on a couple of computers and followed the directions step by step. Am I missing something here?
Thanks,
Edit: yep, saw in another thread anything above 8.1.
Imma email Blu and see if they'll loosen the restrictions if they're stopping development. Can't hurt at this point.

Questions regarding rooting & Unlocking BL

Used to root etc on old phones, taken a long break from it all but I have sent a request to Huawei to get my unlock key for my P10 VTR-L09C440, however I have a few questions I hope can be answered.
1. Can I re-lock my bootloader after unlocking, and if so does it say anything like "bootloader relocked" or anything like that or is it completely back as it was?
2. Can I use restricted apps (I know I couldn't use Barclays and I think one of my betting apps and Google Pay were restricted), has this changed now or can Magisk etc actually hide BL unlock / root / whatever it is it doesn't like?
I would like to know that too
SavageRobot said:
Used to root etc on old phones, taken a long break from it all but I have sent a request to Huawei to get my unlock key for my P10 VTR-L09C440, however I have a few questions I hope can be answered.
1. Can I re-lock my bootloader after unlocking, and if so does it say anything like "bootloader relocked" or anything like that or is it completely back as it was?
2. Can I use restricted apps (I know I couldn't use Barclays and I think one of my betting apps and Google Pay were restricted), has this changed now or can Magisk etc actually hide BL unlock / root / whatever it is it doesn't like?
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1. No, when you manually relock, the bootloader status is "RELOCKED". To lock the bootloader you need to use HWOTA8, FunkyHuawei or FirmwareFinder and update to the newest version. Both will cause factory reset.
2. When you rooted with Magisk most apps with Root detection will work, when you enable "Magisk Hide". I use it on my bank secure tan app and Mario Run without any problems. Some friend are using Magisk Hide with other banking apps without any problems, too.
I haven't rooted and unlocked myself but I read about an important part of the process.
First of all you have to enable oem security in developer options, otherwise you risk the FRP lock.
https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/factory-reset-protection-what-you-need-know?amp
If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
Sent from my VTR-L09 using XDA Labs
OK great, thanks for the info. I have actually finally just heard back from Huawei so code should be imminent. Unfortunately my battery as stock seems to be awful so I need to try something to make it last a day at least.
Does Magisk hide make Android Pay work too?
I think I'm right in thinking that banking apps and the like often check bootloader status rather than just root. I assume Magisk doesn't hide this?
If I go back to stock and relock bootloader, will the apps also still register that the bootloader has been unlocked and still not work?
TIA
SavageRobot said:
Does Magisk hide make Android Pay work too?
I think I'm right in thinking that banking apps and the like often check bootloader status rather than just root. I assume Magisk doesn't hide this?
If I go back to stock and relock bootloader, will the apps also still register that the bootloader has been unlocked and still not work?
TIA
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Can someone confirm this please? Does anybody use Android Pay and Barclays confirm Magisk makes it still work with Bootloader unlocked?

Why have the bootloader unlocked?

Can you simply explain what are advantages by unlocking the bootloader, waiting 14 days (why 14?) ?
I just wanted to replace the stock Android 7 with Oreo 8, but in most of the guides it looks like the boot loader must be unlocked.
Can one explain to me the technical reason for that?
Thnx
The bootloader must be unlocked so you can flash recovery and do a lot from there. The main reason you'd want it unlocked is for root or custom roms, or even Android P semi GSI
_Hinnie_ said:
The bootloader must be unlocked so you can flash recovery and do a lot from there. The main reason you'd want it unlocked is for root or custom roms, or even Android P semi GSI
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Thank you Hinnie,
so far as I understand, if I would use a custom rom, the bootloader unlocked is mandatory...
But why one need to wait for 14 days?
The 14 days time is from Lenovo itself. Every company has different policy in terms of deciding duration for unlocking bootloader.
_maxim_ said:
Thank you Hinnie,
so far as I understand, if I would use a custom rom, the bootloader unlocked is mandatory...
But why one need to wait for 14 days?
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So, that the user has the option to cancel the process of unlocking, in these 14 days.
It's for safety purpose, coz once the bootloader is unlocked, one can customise (or destroy) everything from system files to IMEI to making phone a brick.
With great power comes great responsibilities
So, there are various pros & cons of unlocking bootloader.
But, nothing will be damaged until you follow the steps or guidelines provided for the various processes. Just read & read & implement once you are almost 90% sure that it will not harm your data or device.
And most important always remember to keep backups
Happy Flashing !!

How to flash a ROM without unlocking bootloader? - This is a Question

On AliExpress on almost all listings on Huawei devices (P20 Pro for instance) there is the option to buy it with a flashed Global ROM. And they do this without unlocking the bootloader.
How do they do it? Is it that the bootloader on the Chinese version is unlocked?
For example...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/guide-force-update-using-firmware-t3963074
This is just a stock rom, you can download an update.zip and install it via recovery no problem.
Don't make the mistake of thinking this is a custom rom like AOSP it isn't.
It's completely stock, all P20 Pro devices come with an open OS afaik, then when you turn it on with your SIM it binds to the carrier / location, least that's my understanding of it.
But 100% not a custom ROM.
Danchibald said:
For example...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/guide-force-update-using-firmware-t3963074
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Clean and Simple. Thank you.
dladz said:
This is just a stock rom, you can download an update.zip and install it via recovery no problem.
Don't make the mistake of thinking this is a custom rom like AOSP it isn't.
It's completely stock, all P20 Pro devices come with an open OS afaik, then when you turn it on with your SIM it binds to the carrier / location, least that's my understanding of it.
But 100% not a custom ROM.
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What do you mean by an "open OS"?
My Huawei device has a locked bootloader, and I didn't find any way on the internet to unlock it yet. (There is a site that offers leaked unlock codes from Huawei itself for 50$ but I won't pay this much). Consequently, so far I've only been able to install official Huawei ROMs only.
*Huawei has stopped to officially offer unlock codes since a year as of now.
Hirusho said:
What do you mean by an "open OS"?
My Huawei device has a locked bootloader, and I didn't find any way on the internet to unlock it yet. (There is a site that offers leaked unlock codes from Huawei itself for 50$ but I won't pay this much). Consequently, so far I've only been able to install official Huawei ROMs only.
*Huawei has stopped to officially offer unlock codes since a year as of now.
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You don't need to unlock your bootloader, look for the otg update method on xda.
It's quite easy.
Open OS, as in its just a stock ROM. Nothing more.

Rooting Realme X50 5G Chn version.

Hello! Is it possible to root this phone as for now? Are there any custom roms for this model?
Decimetre said:
Hello! Is it possible to root this phone as for now? Are there any custom roms for this model?
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If you can unlock bootloader, yes you can flash Magisk to root or flash GSI as custom ROMs.
Have you unlock your phone bootloader? May I know what model of your phone? Starting with RMX...
siamese007 said:
If you can unlock bootloader, yes you can flash Magisk to root or flash GSI as custom ROMs.
Have you unlock your phone bootloader? May I know what model of your phone? Starting with RMX...
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Thank you for the response. I could not find TWRP for this phone. The model is RMX2025. I couldn't unlock my phone's bootloader because the official "Bootloader Unlock Tool App" does not support this model... The lowest model it supports is rmx2051. Is there any other way to unlock bootloader on this phone? People say it's impossible...
Decimetre said:
Thank you for the response. I could not find TWRP for this phone. The model is RMX2025. I couldn't unlock my phone's bootloader because the official "Bootloader Unlock Tool App" does not support this model... The lowest model it supports is rmx2051. Is there any other way to unlock bootloader on this phone? People say it's impossible...
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Welcome. As far as I know there is only deep test app to unlock bootloader for RMX2051 model of X50 5G only. As long as Realme does not provide deep test app for RMX2025, there is no possible way to flash TWRP or any custom recovery. IMO Realme probably care the vendors rather than the end users so that they have their phones unable to be unlocked.
I sold my RMX2025 and RMX2144 already. Right now I have Redmi K30 5G which is basically the same platform specs as Realme X50 5G. Android devices give the users the ability to customize their devices over iOS devices. This is one of the major attractive points that I chose Android devices over the iOS devices. But some major phone manufacturers chose to remove this selling point.
Well...There may be some hope that Realme may give the deep test app that supports other models of their X50 5G later. But no idea when.
I contacted a Hindu Youtuber who makes videos about unlocking phones, and he said that he will soon post a video of how to unlock RMX2025. As for now, I have restored my phone to default settings and removed (or disabled) almost every Chinese app. Google Assistant still doesn't work but I can live without it
Decimetre said:
I contacted a Hindu Youtuber who makes videos about unlocking phones, and he said that he will soon post a video of how to unlock RMX2025. As for now, I have restored my phone to default settings and removed (or disabled) almost every Chinese app. Google Assistant still doesn't work but I can live without it
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That would be very cool. Please uodate whenever he post the unlock video. I am looking forwards to watching this. This phone is good though. If I can unlock the phone, I will probably buy another RMX2025.
I have seen a post showing how to debloat this phoneas well. You may also look in some section of this phone forum for additional space.
have you tried changing region of your phone? to make it CN variant?

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