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I thought Samsung said at their unpacked event that they were moving to native Google messages. Mine looks like it is the Samsung messaging app Version 12.1.01.25. Anyone has any nsight on this? I have the s21 ultra 512GB directly from Samsung using T-mo.
A little research -- https://9to5google.com/2021/01/15/galaxy-s21-google-messages-pre-installed/
Not installed in the US... Why?
It was always only for non-US phones, US phones got stuck with Samsung Messages. We will have to wait for someone to upload the APK so that we can sideload it.
And for anyone wondering the Google Messages version in the Play Store is different and doesn't offer the integrated features that come with the Samsung version of it.
I wish they would stick to one of the two apps, not both. My 21 came with both preloaded and it's getting pretty ridiculous. There's pretty much double apps everywhere now, even a secondary keyboard by Microsoft! And I can't even uninstall them!
I am using the google messages for s20 ultra. I downloaded from the play store just fine
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
franklectic said:
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
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That's on your carrier. RCS and chat features worked fine and activated immediately for me on T-Mobile.
BillyKarabilly said:
I can't even uninstall them!
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Cant you use ADB and remove them?
franklectic said:
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
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you need to install Carrier Service from play store !
then it will work.
cookie666 said:
Cant you use ADB and remove them?
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yeah and nothing malfunctions, except I can’t get RCS to work.
EMEA Version came with Samsung Messages.
Installed Google Messages and have chat features in it.
Yeah, it's weird. Just got my s21. Text messages that are being reply to me were still going to my old phone that didn't even have a sim card. Searched and found that Chat features needed to be turned off on the old phone...didn't work either until I just uninstalled the app. Now chat features are not available on the s21. Says to call carrier. Figure it's a network issue holding onto my old device info and not releasing to my new? Maybe it just takes some time.
[Didn't know that Samsung is supposed to have a messaging app that integrated with googles.]
SiNJiN76 said:
Yeah, it's weird. Just got my s21. Text messages that are being reply to me were still going to my old phone that didn't even have a sim card. Searched and found that Chat features needed to be turned off on the old phone...didn't work either until I just uninstalled the app. Now chat features are not available on the s21. Says to call carrier. Figure it's a network issue holding onto my old device info and not releasing to my new? Maybe it just takes some time.
[Didn't know that Samsung is supposed to have a messaging app that integrated with googles.]
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I have exactly the same problem, cannot activate the chat function because the validation SMS does not work either. If anyone finds the solution I am listening.
netnerd said:
you need to install Carrier Service from play store !
then it will work.
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Thank you! How hard would it be for the Google Messages app to direct users to download the Carrier Service when they try to enable Chat features but are denied. Chat set up immediately after installing Carrier Service.
Edit: I'm on T-mobile with the T-mobile S21 Ultra.
I just removed google messaging app from mine, through ADB.
I was like.. what?? Why are there 2 apps with the same name "messages" in my drawer?
anyway, got rid of it
I have the Verizon version of the ultra and there were no issues with getting Google Messages to work with the chat features. All I did was download and install the app. I also made it my dark messaging app in Settings > Apps > Default apps.
I use T-mobile and and have the s21 ultra unlocked on Tmobile, and I use the google messages and chat features work perfectly fine.
On Tmobile 512 unlocked.
If I want RCS with call and text on other devices .(Play store version, of Google messages does not support Samsung text and call on other devices) I had to go on "U" firmware with TMO carrier services and stick with Samsung messages.
I tried installing Google " NATIVE"messaging for Samsung. That apk that was posted in another thread and it would not install.
Also it does not seem that continue app on other devices is working either .
My tab s7+ and S21 ULTRA are both on 3.1 and they have the options enabled ,but no
Worky.
Honestly I prefer the Samsung messages app because it gives an audible notification when you're on a phone call. The Google messages app doesn't. It sucks to be on a call and not know a text message came in. If Google messages would add that simple feature it would be just about perfect.
Question for those that have the Google Messages prebaked in, can one of you upload it for us to use? If I'm not mistaken that is the one that is specifically developed to be themed alongside One Ui. Thanks in advance!
megaghostgamer said:
Question for those that have the Google Messages prebaked in, can one of you upload it for us to use? If I'm not mistaken that is the one that is specifically developed to be themed alongside One Ui. Thanks in advance!
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It doesn't work, they already tried in this thread.
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Since I still rely on Verizon's Visual Voicemail, I was a little annoyed when I noticed that the VVM icon was missing. After downloading a Verizon VVM version apk and attempting install, it states that another program exists with the same signature. I looked for the App under Apps and cannot find it. This is while looking at all apps as well.... not just enabled apps. I'm assuming the com.samsung.vvm exists in the apps directory that I cannot see without root.
Does anyone know a way around this without root? I check my voicemail way too much the old way with *86 since I have no way of knowing if I have a voicemail. Sometimes calls just don't come through where I'm at.
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Since I still rely on Verizon's Visual Voicemail, I was a little annoyed when I noticed that the VVM icon was missing. After downloading a Verizon VVM version apk and attempting install, it states that another program exists with the same signature. I looked for the App under Apps and cannot find it. This is while looking at all apps as well.... not just enabled apps. I'm assuming the com.samsung.vvm exists in the apps directory that I cannot see without root.
Does anyone know a way around this without root? I check my voicemail way too much the old way with *86 since I have no way of knowing if I have a voicemail. Sometimes calls just don't come through where I'm at.
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So you don't have this shortcut on your dialer?
hazmad said:
So you don't have this shortcut on your dialer?
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Negative. There is a "Chat" icon that brings up text messaging.
hazmad said:
So you don't have this shortcut on your dialer?
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under settings for the dialer ... service provider shows.... "My carrier".... Voice Mail Number = *86
Any chance of getting a Verizon Visual Voicemail apk that will work on an unlocked phone?
I asked a Verizon salesperson if there were any drawbacks to buying an unlocked S8. None, she said. Maybe she honestly didn't know, but not having Visual Voicemail is making me think I've wasted $700.
I tried the YouMail workaround and found my voicemails delayed by up to 12 hours, so that's not going to cut it. I already use Google Voice for my work line, so that's not a great option either.
Hoping someone can help me salvage something from my mistake so that I can get the most from this otherwise awesome phone.
Someone should ask jkruse he find ways on the S7 edge without root.
I think he's still researching
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I don't know why Verison's VVM is so much better than other options. I use Google Voice and get visual print outs of VM. I may just be ignorant of the benefits of Verizon's app, but there must be others out there that are just as good.
I just need some app that tells me I have a voicemail from Verizon. I do not want to forward my phone to some other system for voicemail.
I have an APK for the VVM application. That is the point of this post. It will not allow me to install it because it says that an app with the same signature is already installed. Since I do not have Root, I cannot browse the root apps and remove the old one or fix it's issues since it doesn't show in the apps list for all apps.
Can you post a link to the APK? I'm in the same situation.
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Can you post a link to the APK? I'm in the same situation.
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This was from a titanium backup on my other phone. Just won't load because of the signature issue on my phone. And I don't have root to fix that.
Maybe someone can do the proper decompile and modify the signature for the APK... then Maybe non-rooted users can install?
anyone out there please give me something. i have the unlocked s8+ on verizon and no voicemail. if someone leaves a voicemail, i will not get an icon i would have to call my voicemail to see. i would be fine not having VVM but i dont even get an icon. WTF??? I cant get the google VVM to work some how....tried how everyone else is doing it voicemails are not sent to my phone.....sooo stupid....
Same Phone - Same Problem
Today I had a Verizon tech. set me up on the old Verizon voicemail system. Now I get a notification with a beep when I receive a new voicemail. Still no icon but it is something. I also have downloaded the vvm apk. It also won't install because there is a hidden ap with the same name.
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Same Phone - Same Problem
Today I had a Verizon tech. set me up on the old Verizon voicemail system. Now I get a notification with a beep when I receive a new voicemail. Still no icon but it is something. I also have downloaded the vvm apk. It also won't install because there is a hidden ap with the same name.
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well I got mine resolved. Called Verizon, asked for tech support, told her I had an unlocked s8+ and it's not displaying voicemail notifications and to take everything vvm away and go to basic. She had to look into it but then told me to restart my phone, she left a message and fixed. Now displaying notification.
What do you mean "take everything VVM away"?
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well I got mine resolved. Called Verizon, asked for tech support, told her I had an unlocked s8+ and it's not displaying voicemail notifications and to take everything vvm away and go to basic. She had to look into it but then told me to restart my phone, she left a message and fixed. Now displaying notification.
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I also bought a carrier-free unlocked S8 and was told by Verizon tech support that I wouldn't be able to install VVM and would have to use a third party app to get voicemail notification. Was your phone an unlocked carrier-specific phone?
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Same Phone - Same Problem
Today I had a Verizon tech. set me up on the old Verizon voicemail system. Now I get a notification with a beep when I receive a new voicemail. Still no icon but it is something. I also have downloaded the vvm apk. It also won't install because there is a hidden ap with the same name.
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Where did you find the vvm apk? Was it the one linked earlier in the thread? I'm wondering if it would work on my SM-G950U1 model.
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I also bought a carrier-free unlocked S8 and was told by Verizon tech support that I wouldn't be able to install VVM and would have to use a third party app to get voicemail notification. Was your phone an unlocked carrier-specific phone?
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Where did you find the vvm apk? Was it the one linked earlier in the thread? I'm wondering if it would work on my SM-G950U1 model.
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That was just the wording I used to imply to the Verizon tech that I thought would be full blown but was actually promptly helpful. I wanted no vvm on my account to just have old-school basic. That's how I said it hoping they would understand. You won't get vvm unless you use 3rd party apps line goggle voice which I couldn't get to work that essentially forward your voicemail to 3rd party apps. Old-school works fine for me. I'm forced to use it on my pos iPhone 5s for work anyways.
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Where did you find the vvm apk? Was it the one linked earlier in the thread? I'm wondering if it would work on my SM-G950U1 model.
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I beleive that's a no go. I have a Verizon S8 but I switched to the U1 firmware and the apk linked above does not work either
Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to flash the Verizon firmware and see if that works. It would be so much nicer if I could just install the app.
Now that the phone is officially out, has anyone outside the US pulled their Google Messages apk and uploaded it anywhere? Curious to see if we can get it working on the US variant.
What's different than the play store version?
Here you go.
Quick Share
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linksharing.samsungcloud.com
This is an optimized version that works with the Call & Text on other devices and Watches.
Won't install on U1.
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
What's different than the play store version?
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It works with call/message continuity for people who have tablets (messages can normally only be forwarded if you use Samsung Messages). Might be some other cool stuff or differences too, but that's what I'm after.
Nat.smith26 said:
Here you go.
Quick Share
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linksharing.samsungcloud.com
This is an optimized version that works with the Call & Text on other devices and Watches.
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Thanks! I'm going to attach it to this post in case that link share expires.
chkn said:
Won't install on U1.
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Someone probably will need to repackage and sign it. Usually you can't just install a system app off of another device. I haven't been into Android modding/development for a few years, so hopefully someone can get that done now that we have this APK here.
If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
chkn said:
If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
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We honestly might even need their Call & Text on Other Devices apk too. The current one we have tries to kick you off if another SMS app is installed.
I've tried to sign the app but, it still refuses to install. Let me know if any of you have any luck!
I don't have the watch or tablet so I don't need the continuity part. Annoyingly my s21 no longer has encrypted messages.
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I don't have the watch or tablet so I don't need the continuity part. Annoyingly my s21 no longer has encrypted messages.
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Is it not linked to the version in the Play Store for updates or beta sign up? Encryption was a beta feature.
It is still linked but whenever it updates it has a slightly different file name and no encryption. But the version number still matches the latest beta version. For now I uninstalled updates, sideloaded the regular version and disabled automatic updates.
Anyone manage to get this working yet?
How do we start a bounty to get this working ?
I'll contribute some funds
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How do we start a bounty to get this working ?
I'll contribute some funds
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I'd probably start a separate bounty thread for it. I don't want to make multiple threads on the same topic though myself, so I'll let someone else. It'll likely be a two part job though with both the Google Messages and Call & Text on Other Devices apps needing modifications.
Would also chip in if someone could get this working for us
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If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
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Try using Total Commander app from Google store, I get most of 'other' apps installed with that app. The apk files must go to root Download folder so you can easily find it on Total Commander and install it after you grant permission for it. It works on non-rooted phones as well.
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Try using Total Commander app from Google store, I get most of 'other' apps installed with that app. The apk files must go to root Download folder so you can easily find it on Total Commander and install it after you grant permission for it. It works on non-rooted phones as well.
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I tried using total commander, this is the error I get.
Function aborted!
INSTALL_FAILED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE
Please select all split APK parts!
Are we missing more apk?
Does anyone have any screenshots of the actual app. Are there any visual differences in the one ui messages version?
Just an FYI for anyone hoping to use RCS on their tablet
I got the beta on my exynos s21u and while it does work with the call & text anywhere feature, it currently only replies as SMS even if the inbound msg is RCS
I'll also contribute some funds to get this working if need be. Sad my S21 snapdragon doesn't come with it already. Samsung really needs to polish their brand and stop making it so diverse between countries.
Hi All
I have T mobile US. I made a mistake by getting the S21 Ultra unlocked version from Samsung. Now RCS doesn't work on native Samsung Messages app and no I don't want to use google messages app. Is there a work around or Time line on when they will open RCS on Unlocked devices?
Thanks in advance.
Same issue here. I am using Google Messages for now.
udaykiran0 said:
Same issue here. I am using Google Messages for now.
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Yeah I don't want to use Google Messanger.
Anyone know how long it will take for them to allow RCS on native Samsung messages app for S21 ultra Unlocked T mobile customers?
SptMogul said:
Yeah I don't want to use Google Messanger.
Anyone know how long it will take for them to allow RCS on native Samsung messages app for S21 ultra Unlocked T mobile customers?
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If it is in fact working on T-Mobile firmware, then flash the T-Mobile firmware.
IIRC (could be wrong) Samsung said that their Messaging app won't support RCS... But if that's the case, then you can blame Samsung for not including it at all lol. But back when I had a Note 20 Ultra, Samsung said the same thing, however, there was this quick little setup that let you use RCS with Samsung messages.
It started with the installation of Google Messages and activation of RCS. But I just can't remember the following steps... Just search for what I mentioned on XDA and you'll probably find the post. But either way, after testing it out and having it work, I switched back to Google Messages anyways as it had a much better interface and better features for a techy/nerdy person like myself =)
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IIRC (could be wrong) Samsung said that their Messaging app won't support RCS... But if that's the case, then you can blame Samsung for not including it at all lol. But back when I had a Note 20 Ultra, Samsung said the same thing, however, there was this quick little setup that let you use RCS with Samsung messages.
It started with the installation of Google Messages and activation of RCS. But I just can't remember the following steps... Just search for what I mentioned on XDA and you'll probably find the post. But either way, after testing it out and having it work, I switched back to Google Messages anyways as it had a much better interface and better features for a techy/nerdy person like myself =)
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I do remember this when I used the process for my Note 10+. Unfortunately that process doesn't work for S21 anymore.
udaykiran0 said:
I do remember this when I used the process for my Note 10+. Unfortunately that process doesn't work for S21 anymore.
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Yeah, thanks for the update. I just looked into it and the IMS command via Google Phone was removed in Android 11 - hence why this doesn't work anymore =(. What a let down.
I figured out that if you flash the U firmware on the U1 phone and use the HOME_CSC, it'll give you the updated Samsung Messages with chat settings.
Google Messages is getting a makeover on Samsung phones. Is your phone eligible?
The Google Message app is getting a One UI-inspired makeover on Samsung phones making one handed use easier.
www.androidauthority.com
It's part of their closer partnership with Google that spawned the Galaxy Watch4. They're basically slowly abandoning Samsung Messages (and probably the rest of their own stuff eventually) and working more closely with Google to make OneUI-matching versions of the Google app suite. Why spend time developing their own tools when Google will do the work for them, I guess.
You need to download the app Carrier Services and also Google Chat.
You're gonna have a prompt asking for your number on Messages.
Then you can Uninstall Google Chat.
As title, what aplication are you using for sms/text's?
Currently I am using stock samsung, but is is incredibly slow. I mean I type quickly, and sometimes my messages appear after 5-10 sec in it. Also I can get a text and when I enter apk I need to wait another 3/4 sec just to let it appear. Very frustrating, looking for something better, maybe google messages with one ui are better? Or maybe you got some alternatives?
I use the Google app. IDGAF about Samsung and their apps.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
As title, what aplication are you using for sms/text's?
Currently I am using stock samsung, but is is incredibly slow. I mean I type quickly, and sometimes my messages appear after 5-10 sec in it. Also I can get a text and when I enter apk I need to wait another 3/4 sec just to let it appear. Very frustrating, looking for something better, maybe google messages with one ui are better? Or maybe you got some alternatives?
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Samsung Messages before. Then started using Google Messages for RCS. Switched back to Samsung Messages as RCS is now supported by my Service Provider in Australia. IMO, Samsung Messages is better than Google's in the functionality wise.
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IMO, Samsung Messages is better than Google's in the functionality wise.
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Functionality like? I mean I am pissed a bit as I can not set up my wife RCS on it for whatever reason.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Functionality like? I mean I am pissed a bit as I can not set up my wife RCS on it for whatever reason.
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Your Service provider has to support RCS to start with. I have Galaxy Watch. I get more options on my watch notification. Also, the notification tray has functionality to copy OTP or any numbers if the text has one.
I hate to sound thirsty, but look at my post regarding one ui themed Google messages .
I'm deep into my 2nd whiteclaw (mango) ,so I'm like super click bait right now
Been using google app, now switched to samsung messages. Only sms to mms conversion is annoying. Do you know how to turn off sms to mms conversion?
Read this.
ONE UI themed google messages working
Installed on unlocked US S21 ultra on TMobile. One UI theme. Working call and text on other devices. See pics. I tried attaching apk . I installed with APKMIRROR installation app. I also put some pics up . Hope it all shows
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(3rd whiteclaw ) I'm close to useless.
ALL jibe RCS (GOOGLE) and one UI themed and Samsung Functions ( like pinch to zoom for larger text )and text and call on other samsung devices.
Enjoy .there is nothing better stop looking
thank me later
ONE UI themed google messages working
Installed on unlocked US S21 ultra on TMobile. One UI theme. Working call and text on other devices. See pics. I tried attaching apk . I installed with APKMIRROR installation app. I also put some pics up . Hope it all shows
forum.xda-developers.com
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Your Service provider has to support RCS to start with. I have Galaxy Watch. I get more options on my watch notification. Also, the notification tray has functionality to copy OTP or any numbers if the text has one.
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We both use EE, I had issues to enable it(had to try 20-50 times to success, otherwise I was getting error messages) and tried about 20 times on wife phone without luck.
chkn said:
Read this.
ONE UI themed google messages working
Installed on unlocked US S21 ultra on TMobile. One UI theme. Working call and text on other devices. See pics. I tried attaching apk . I installed with APKMIRROR installation app. I also put some pics up . Hope it all shows
forum.xda-developers.com
(3rd whiteclaw ) I'm close to useless.
ALL jibe RCS (GOOGLE) and one UI themed and Samsung Functions ( like pinch to zoom for larger text )and text and call on other samsung devices.
Enjoy .there is nothing better stop looking
thank me later
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When I download google messages from store they already have one ui
Signal for SMS/MMS and wechat for other type of internal chat.
I was removing extra bloat from my Samsung phone via ADB (uninstalling the stock Samsung Messages). Now, I would like to add the stock Samsung Messages app back. Could someone please tell me the easiest way to install the app back? I can't find it on the Samsung Galaxy store or Google Play store.
I tried downloading the latest APK. Unfortunately when I click on the APK via Samsung "My Files" (which already has the ability to install apps from unknown sources), the app looks like it's installing.. but then, it ultimately says "App not installed".
Maybe, there's a way to put it back via ADB? If so, can someone please tell me exactly how to do it? I don't even remember the exact commands I used to remove it in the first place.
try shell command:
cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.messaging
Out of curiosity: why are you adding it back?
I was trying to get
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try shell command:
cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.messaging
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That worked. Thanks!
I was trying to get
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Out of curiosity: why are you adding it back?
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I was trying to enable the feature Make calls and send messages from your Galaxy tablet . It wasn't working... so, I incorrectly believed putting back the stock Samsung Messaging app would resolve the issue.. which it didn't. After reading that link more carefully, it clearly said this feature isn't compatible with Verizon carriers. Too bad. I'll probably just end up uninstalling the stock app again since it has no use to me. I like Google Messages.
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I was trying to get
I was trying to enable the feature Make calls and send messages from your Galaxy tablet . It wasn't working... so, I incorrectly believed putting back the stock Samsung Messaging app would resolve the issue.. which it didn't. After reading that link more carefully, it clearly said this feature isn't compatible with Verizon carriers. Too bad. I'll probably just end up uninstalling the stock app again since it has no use to me. I like Google Messages.
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I have the Tab S7 and the Call and Text on other devices feature is very handy. I love it.
But if your carrier has blocked the function for some reason, the same functionality (SMS alone, not calls) can be replicated with Google Messages once you link the two devices together.
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I have the Tab S7 and the Call and Text on other devices feature is very handy. I love it.
But if your carrier has blocked the function for some reason, the same functionality (SMS alone, not calls) can be replicated with Google Messages once you link the two devices together.
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I like Samsung Flow on a PC. YourPhone is garbage IMO.