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As some of you know, 3rd party SMS apps are currently bugged and do not recieve notifications (or messages at all) on devices running the T-Mobile build of the Moto Z2 Force software. After a little bit of testing, I've discovered that this is caused by the "Summit RCS Services" service that runs in the background. Through the normal system settings, you can't disable this service. However, using adb, you can disable this package and get 3rd party SMS working. You should still be able to get updates even with the service disabled.
Step 1: Enable USB Debugging
Step 2: Install the Android Platform Tools
Step 3: Using the terminal of your choice, once you've navigated to that folder (You can just type "cd" then drag and drop the folder into the command window on Windows and MacOS) type the following:
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adb shell
Then, type the following command:
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pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.summit.nexos.sdk.app.service
Finally, reboot the phone. 3rd party SMS applications should receive notifications.
You could also just wait for Lenovo and T-Mobile to push the official update to fix this issue, but who on XDA sits and waits when they can fix it themselves? :silly:
Can this be used to disable any app or service?
seh6183 said:
Can this be used to disable any app or service?
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Yes just have to know the package name.
I disabled T-Mobile app this way.
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This was causing my issue with duplicate text messages when receiving a Group MMS. I uninstalled this RCS service and it fixed my Group messaging. It was driving me insane and I figured it was a TMobile APK causing it. I like RCS but would rather go without it than deal with these bugs.
I never had this issue.. I use textra pro
logikism said:
I never had this issue.. I use textra pro
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Are you on the T-Mobile software build?
cfriendr said:
Are you on the T-Mobile software build?
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yes and this is the second device....neither had an issue.
logikism said:
yes and this is the second device....neither had an issue.
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Interesting.
Were both devices on the August update? It's possible that the August security patch update fixed the problem. I haven't tested as I just keep the package disabled (since Pulse doesn't support RCS yet anyways and that's my main messaging app).
cfriendr said:
Interesting.
Were both devices on the August update? It's possible that the August security patch update fixed the problem. I haven't tested as I just keep the package disabled (since Pulse doesn't support RCS yet anyways and that's my main messaging app).
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Both phones were not on August update. Worked fine.
Got update, still worked fine. Never had an issue ever.
I've also used the tmo flash-all back to stock, worked fine.
Here's some pics while I wrote this...
logikism said:
Both phones were not on August update. Worked fine.
Got update, still worked fine. Never had an issue ever.
I've also used the tmo flash-all back to stock, worked fine.
Here's some pics while I wrote this...
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Interesting. It might be that Textra supports the setup that T-Mobile requires, whereas Pulse SMS (which doesn't support any RCS) and Android Messages (only supports Universal RCS) are not compatible with T-Mobile's service. I only tested those two apps.
Would you mind trying to use Android Messages and see if that one gets incoming notifications without any package disabling?
No problems...
Interesting. It must have been a server side fix then, recently.
Any word on how root can help us replace this god-awful messaging app!?
cfriendr said:
Interesting. It must have been a server side fix then, recently.
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It doesn't affect everyone. Neither does the Split messages happening. Motorola engineers pinpointed the problem with notification alerts, but are still looking to fix some other message related problems.
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This continues to be an issue even after using this method. Worked for maybe a night after deleting the -user line (it was saying that command could not be found). But alas, today I'm no longer receiving alerts.
revulv said:
This continues to be an issue even after using this method. Worked for maybe a night after deleting the -user line (it was saying that command could not be found). But alas, today I'm no longer receiving alerts.
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did you type --user or -user?
You need to make sure you do double hyphen to indicate you're uninstalling it for your user profile.
This is what I'm getting. Disregard the command I missed typed above the last command. I've tried this on my computer as well. Everything was working, but only occasionally do I get alerts now. It's odd.
revulv said:
This is what I'm getting. Disregard the command I missed typed above the last command. I've tried this on my computer as well. Everything was working, but only occasionally do I get alerts now. It's odd.
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Service not servkce
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Lol, I said disregard the first command I messed up on. The second one was written perfectly. Thank you though.
revulv said:
Lol, I said disregard the first command I messed up on. The second one was written perfectly. Thank you though.
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Did not have my morning coffee.
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I've installed the apk for the Google dialer (https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...292-bubble-t3708218/post74588791#post74588791) and would like to be able to use that on phone calls, including the pop-up that I used to get on my nexus 6p. Right now, when I make phone calls even from the Google dialer, it defaults to the Samsung Phone. I understand that I need to disable the Samsung Phone (whose app info points to *Contacts*). Is that true, if so how do i disable it? the disabled button is greyed out.
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I've installed the apk for the Google dialer (https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...292-bubble-t3708218/post74588791#post74588791) and would like to be able to use that on phone calls, including the pop-up that I used to get on my nexus 6p. Right now, when I make phone calls even from the Google dialer, it defaults to the Samsung Phone. I understand that I need to disable the Samsung Phone (whose app info points to *Contacts*). Is that true, if so how do i disable it? the disabled button is greyed out.
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Guessing that you are not rooted,here's your options:
1) Package Disabler Pro: (or AdHell 3,Google &/or XDA Search for the how-to)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en_US
2) Disable via USB Commands:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
The former is easy enough to re-enable the Samsung Dialer/Contacts,if necessary.
The latter (ADB Commands) requires a factory reset to bring it back.
I just tested on my Note 9,using Package Disabler Pro & the Google Phone/Contacts works just fine on its own.
KOLIOSIS said:
Guessing that you are not rooted,here's your options:
1) Package Disabler Pro: (or AdHell 3,Google &/or XDA Search for the how-to)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en_US
2) Disable via USB Commands:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
The former is easy enough to re-enable the Samsung Dialer/Contacts,if necessary.
The latter (ADB Commands) requires a factory reset to bring it back.
I just tested on my Note 9,using Package Disabler Pro & the Google Phone/Contacts works just fine on its own.
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i managed to get it to work by setting google phone as the default (without disabling the samsung phone). however, i'm still not getting the floating bubble for an ongoing call if i navigate away from the phone app though. any idea how to get that to work? yes, you're right. i'm not rooted.
thetrystero said:
i managed to get it to work by setting google phone as the default (without disabling the samsung phone). however, i'm still not getting the floating bubble for an ongoing call if i navigate away from the phone app though. any idea how to get that to work? yes, you're right. i'm not rooted.
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Give this a read, seems there may a version that works on unrooted devices that has the floating bubble:
https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-google-dialer-floating-bubble/
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No Visual Voicemail
On T-Mobile, but don't see vvm anywhere in the app after install. Also thought T-Mobile able to see text transcription also?
Google Messages v--4.1.067 (Ettin_RC12_xxhdpi.arm64-v8a.phone) on Galaxy S10
When I open a chat with a person and tap on the "write a message" text box, instead of the text box coming up simply, the text box comes up AND it gives me the option tray of copy, paste, web search, etc. This is the thing you usually get if you double tap or press and hold. I'm getting it with a single tap and it's kinda annoying. Can anyone reproduce this? Any idea for a fix?
I have the same issue, pops up on both the stock messaging app AND google messages.
This is an issue with the March Security update or at least I hope it's an issue and not something new. I've made a post about it in the S10+ forum but haven't seen many responses to it. For me it happened every time I touched in a text field to bring up the keyboard. I know 2 other people that have the same issue after updating as well. I've rolled back to the February patch for now as it was pretty annoying for me.
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Thank goodness, I thought I was the only one experiencing this. It is quite annoying.
So I've been digging into this a little and it appears to be a bug with Samsung's Clipboard History service. I can't figure out how to disable it. I tried disabling a few things using ADB with no luck. If you go into your clipboard history and "Delete All" it will no longer be an issue. I don't know if anyone knows how, but if there's a non-root method to remove Samsung's clipboard service it'll 'fix' the issue for now.
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So I've been digging into this a little and it appears to be a bug with Samsung's Clipboard History service. I can't figure out how to disable it. I tried disabling a few things using ADB with no luck. If you go into your clipboard history and "Delete All" it will no longer be an issue. I don't know if anyone knows how, but if there's a non-root method to remove Samsung's clipboard service it'll 'fix' the issue for now.
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Clipboardsaveservice could be disabled with Package Disabler Pro, maybe that would do it.
Tel864 said:
Clipboardsaveservice could be disabled with Package Disabler Pro, maybe that would do it.
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Sadly I already disabled it using ADB method to no avail. I mean I could give it a try though. I'd have to re-enable it and see if it stops it.
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vahdyx said:
So I've been digging into this a little and it appears to be a bug with Samsung's Clipboard History service. I can't figure out how to disable it. I tried disabling a few things using ADB with no luck. If you go into your clipboard history and "Delete All" it will no longer be an issue. I don't know if anyone knows how, but if there's a non-root method to remove Samsung's clipboard service it'll 'fix' the issue for now.
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If I delete all the clipboard, I still get a pop-up with the "auto fill" option.
I too have heard that this is a problem with the March update. I hope it's a problem as well, and not a feature.
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If I delete all the clipboard, I still get a pop-up with the "auto fill" option.
I too have heard that this is a problem with the March update. I hope it's a problem as well, and not a feature.
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Yeah, I discovered this shortly after my post. I wasn't using the autofill service at first. But if you get rid of your password autofill service it'll go away lol. General Management > Language and Input > Autofill Service and set it to "None". This is a work around, but Dashlane people don't have to use the autofill service.
Its a sh itty work around but whatever. I can't figure it out. I hope it's fixed in April update.
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This is a work around, but Dashlane people don't have to use the autofill service.
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Really?I will try it.
Easiey said:
Really?I will try it.
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Yeah you just have to enable Dashlane in accessibility settings and it'll give you a little floating circle login.
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So now I'm on the April update, and I still have the same issue with the Google Messages app. I DO NOT have the issue with the stock Samsung Messages app.
Can anyone confirm? Also, is this a Google Messages app issue at the moment? A feature?
Does anyone have a version of Google Messages that doesn't do this? I can revert back.
ptheguy said:
So now I'm on the April update, and I still have the same issue with the Google Messages app. I DO NOT have the issue with the stock Samsung Messages app.
Can anyone confirm? Also, is this a Google Messages app issue at the moment? A feature?
Does anyone have a version of Google Messages that doesn't do this? I can revert back.
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Does this happen any where else besides the message app? I was having this issue in any text field that required me to tap in it to bring up the keyboard. I tried both Gboatd and Samsung keyboards and they both did the same. Can't remember if I tried the stock message app or not. I've rolled back to the Feb patch and will keep ignoring the update until it's fixed.
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sternweezy said:
Does this happen any where else besides the message app? I was having this issue in any text field that required me to tap in it to bring up the keyboard. I tried both Gboatd and Samsung keyboards and they both did the same. Can't remember if I tried the stock message app or not. I've rolled back to the Feb patch and will keep ignoring the update until it's fixed.
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Yeah only in Google Messages for me. Telgram X and Signal work just fine.
This is super annoying. I just wish I could know if this is a software issue or a messages app issue.
ptheguy said:
Yeah only in Google Messages for me. Telgram X and Signal work just fine.
This is super annoying. I just wish I could know if this is a software issue or a messages app issue.
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All I have ever used is Google messenger and I have never had this problem, it's really odd.
Tel864 said:
All I have ever used is Google messenger and I have never had this problem, it's really odd.
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Wait you don't have this issue? That's good! Can you please share your software update patch level and Google Messages version?
Also do you use Gboard?
ptheguy said:
Wait you don't have this issue? That's good! Can you please share your software update patch level and Google Messages version?
Also do you use Gboard?
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No I don't use Gboard. I just realized my phone sort of does this but I never knew it. The first thing I do when I get a phone is remove the Samsung dialer, messages, etc, and install Google Dialer and messenges. Up till I played around with it upon reading your post I never touched the message area before starting to type, I've never had to. For the heck of it this morning, I touched that area and the paste clipboard pop-up appeared. Like I said, I never see that because I just start typing and never saw it that way.
This has been from the first time I used the phone on the original software.
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No I don't use Gboard. I just realized my phone sort of does this but I never knew it. The first thing I do when I get a phone is remove the Samsung dialer, messages, etc, and install Google Dialer and messenges. Up till I played around with it upon reading your post I never touched the message area before starting to type, I've never had to. For the heck of it this morning, I touched that area and the paste clipboard pop-up appeared. Like I said, I never see that because I just start typing and never saw it that way.
This has been from the first time I used the phone on the original software.
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When I open a chat the keyboard is hidden and I have to press on the text box to bring up the keyboard.
Is yours different? Do you somehow have the keyboard up and running when you open a chat? If yes, how?
ptheguy said:
When I open a chat the keyboard is hidden and I have to press on the text box to bring up the keyboard.
Is yours different? Do you somehow have the keyboard up and running when you open a chat? If yes, how?
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I've always used SwiftKey and it pops up when I touch Start Chat.
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I've always used SwiftKey and it pops up when I touch Start Chat.
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I just downloaded SwiftKey and no difference.
When I open Google Messages and tap on a chat to open, it opens the chat with the keyboard hidden. I have to tap on the text box at the bottom of the page to activate the keyboard. Gboard, Samsung keyboard, and SwiftKey have the same behavior.
All,
I thought Samsung said at their unpacked event that they were moving to native Google messages. Mine looks like it is the Samsung messaging app Version 12.1.01.25. Anyone has any nsight on this? I have the s21 ultra 512GB directly from Samsung using T-mo.
A little research -- https://9to5google.com/2021/01/15/galaxy-s21-google-messages-pre-installed/
Not installed in the US... Why?
It was always only for non-US phones, US phones got stuck with Samsung Messages. We will have to wait for someone to upload the APK so that we can sideload it.
And for anyone wondering the Google Messages version in the Play Store is different and doesn't offer the integrated features that come with the Samsung version of it.
I wish they would stick to one of the two apps, not both. My 21 came with both preloaded and it's getting pretty ridiculous. There's pretty much double apps everywhere now, even a secondary keyboard by Microsoft! And I can't even uninstall them!
I am using the google messages for s20 ultra. I downloaded from the play store just fine
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
franklectic said:
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
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That's on your carrier. RCS and chat features worked fine and activated immediately for me on T-Mobile.
BillyKarabilly said:
I can't even uninstall them!
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Cant you use ADB and remove them?
franklectic said:
US S21 here. I downloaded from play store. It works but it says "chat features unavailable for this device"
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you need to install Carrier Service from play store !
then it will work.
cookie666 said:
Cant you use ADB and remove them?
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yeah and nothing malfunctions, except I can’t get RCS to work.
EMEA Version came with Samsung Messages.
Installed Google Messages and have chat features in it.
Yeah, it's weird. Just got my s21. Text messages that are being reply to me were still going to my old phone that didn't even have a sim card. Searched and found that Chat features needed to be turned off on the old phone...didn't work either until I just uninstalled the app. Now chat features are not available on the s21. Says to call carrier. Figure it's a network issue holding onto my old device info and not releasing to my new? Maybe it just takes some time.
[Didn't know that Samsung is supposed to have a messaging app that integrated with googles.]
SiNJiN76 said:
Yeah, it's weird. Just got my s21. Text messages that are being reply to me were still going to my old phone that didn't even have a sim card. Searched and found that Chat features needed to be turned off on the old phone...didn't work either until I just uninstalled the app. Now chat features are not available on the s21. Says to call carrier. Figure it's a network issue holding onto my old device info and not releasing to my new? Maybe it just takes some time.
[Didn't know that Samsung is supposed to have a messaging app that integrated with googles.]
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I have exactly the same problem, cannot activate the chat function because the validation SMS does not work either. If anyone finds the solution I am listening.
netnerd said:
you need to install Carrier Service from play store !
then it will work.
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Thank you! How hard would it be for the Google Messages app to direct users to download the Carrier Service when they try to enable Chat features but are denied. Chat set up immediately after installing Carrier Service.
Edit: I'm on T-mobile with the T-mobile S21 Ultra.
I just removed google messaging app from mine, through ADB.
I was like.. what?? Why are there 2 apps with the same name "messages" in my drawer?
anyway, got rid of it
I have the Verizon version of the ultra and there were no issues with getting Google Messages to work with the chat features. All I did was download and install the app. I also made it my dark messaging app in Settings > Apps > Default apps.
I use T-mobile and and have the s21 ultra unlocked on Tmobile, and I use the google messages and chat features work perfectly fine.
On Tmobile 512 unlocked.
If I want RCS with call and text on other devices .(Play store version, of Google messages does not support Samsung text and call on other devices) I had to go on "U" firmware with TMO carrier services and stick with Samsung messages.
I tried installing Google " NATIVE"messaging for Samsung. That apk that was posted in another thread and it would not install.
Also it does not seem that continue app on other devices is working either .
My tab s7+ and S21 ULTRA are both on 3.1 and they have the options enabled ,but no
Worky.
Honestly I prefer the Samsung messages app because it gives an audible notification when you're on a phone call. The Google messages app doesn't. It sucks to be on a call and not know a text message came in. If Google messages would add that simple feature it would be just about perfect.
Question for those that have the Google Messages prebaked in, can one of you upload it for us to use? If I'm not mistaken that is the one that is specifically developed to be themed alongside One Ui. Thanks in advance!
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Question for those that have the Google Messages prebaked in, can one of you upload it for us to use? If I'm not mistaken that is the one that is specifically developed to be themed alongside One Ui. Thanks in advance!
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It doesn't work, they already tried in this thread.
Now that the phone is officially out, has anyone outside the US pulled their Google Messages apk and uploaded it anywhere? Curious to see if we can get it working on the US variant.
What's different than the play store version?
Here you go.
Quick Share
Expired
linksharing.samsungcloud.com
This is an optimized version that works with the Call & Text on other devices and Watches.
Won't install on U1.
I
Shuthefrontdoor said:
What's different than the play store version?
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It works with call/message continuity for people who have tablets (messages can normally only be forwarded if you use Samsung Messages). Might be some other cool stuff or differences too, but that's what I'm after.
Nat.smith26 said:
Here you go.
Quick Share
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linksharing.samsungcloud.com
This is an optimized version that works with the Call & Text on other devices and Watches.
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Thanks! I'm going to attach it to this post in case that link share expires.
chkn said:
Won't install on U1.
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Someone probably will need to repackage and sign it. Usually you can't just install a system app off of another device. I haven't been into Android modding/development for a few years, so hopefully someone can get that done now that we have this APK here.
If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
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If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
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We honestly might even need their Call & Text on Other Devices apk too. The current one we have tries to kick you off if another SMS app is installed.
I've tried to sign the app but, it still refuses to install. Let me know if any of you have any luck!
I don't have the watch or tablet so I don't need the continuity part. Annoyingly my s21 no longer has encrypted messages.
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I don't have the watch or tablet so I don't need the continuity part. Annoyingly my s21 no longer has encrypted messages.
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Is it not linked to the version in the Play Store for updates or beta sign up? Encryption was a beta feature.
It is still linked but whenever it updates it has a slightly different file name and no encryption. But the version number still matches the latest beta version. For now I uninstalled updates, sideloaded the regular version and disabled automatic updates.
Anyone manage to get this working yet?
How do we start a bounty to get this working ?
I'll contribute some funds
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How do we start a bounty to get this working ?
I'll contribute some funds
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I'd probably start a separate bounty thread for it. I don't want to make multiple threads on the same topic though myself, so I'll let someone else. It'll likely be a two part job though with both the Google Messages and Call & Text on Other Devices apps needing modifications.
Would also chip in if someone could get this working for us
chkn said:
If someone can get this working ,it would be great. I jumped to U TMO firmware to keep RCS and not lose text and phone on my TabS7+
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Try using Total Commander app from Google store, I get most of 'other' apps installed with that app. The apk files must go to root Download folder so you can easily find it on Total Commander and install it after you grant permission for it. It works on non-rooted phones as well.
mzsquared said:
Try using Total Commander app from Google store, I get most of 'other' apps installed with that app. The apk files must go to root Download folder so you can easily find it on Total Commander and install it after you grant permission for it. It works on non-rooted phones as well.
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I tried using total commander, this is the error I get.
Function aborted!
INSTALL_FAILED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE
Please select all split APK parts!
Are we missing more apk?
Does anyone have any screenshots of the actual app. Are there any visual differences in the one ui messages version?
Just an FYI for anyone hoping to use RCS on their tablet
I got the beta on my exynos s21u and while it does work with the call & text anywhere feature, it currently only replies as SMS even if the inbound msg is RCS
I'll also contribute some funds to get this working if need be. Sad my S21 snapdragon doesn't come with it already. Samsung really needs to polish their brand and stop making it so diverse between countries.