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Disappointed: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 // More and more missing features 【#ProjectZero2】
Hello, everybody.
Everybody does still remember the great shock, where Samsung switched to the evil side of Smartphones with the S6. Nobody expected Samsung ever to do that to the people, who appreciated Samsung before.
Now everybody hoped the Note 5 to be a better Smartphone than the S6, and everybody, who appreciated the OLD „Samsung“ hoped Samsung to fix the S6 disadvantages on the Note 5.
But the codename „Project Zero 2“ made Samsungs Market Suicide for sure.
Example: TSP-Hovering was something great to show off in front of pupils from your school class. The nice S4 and Note 3 gimmicks were good to show off.
But showing off with an S6 is rather impossible.
And if you're in survival mode, the 2550 mAh of the S6 won't keep you alive very long.
Important: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
Comparisson between the old and the new Samsung:
OLD:
Newer Phone = More Features
Newer Phones must cover the FULL FEATURE RANGE of the old phone.
Newer Phones are able to be used to show off
Newer Phones do not lose a single feature
Newer Phones have a better battery runtime
Newer Phones have cuter user interfaces
Successors will impress
Hardware is more important than Design
NEW:
Successors with ugly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GalaxyS6_Logo.Png (File History)
Successors don't show the model number (e.g. GT-i9506 or SM-N9005) on the boot screen. So the i9506 looks like a stock i9505
Successors get uglier user interface
Successors only have the most important and basic features
Successors get new features, that get lost on the next phone.
Successors get more restrictions
Successors loose more and more features
Successors: Unable to showoff
Successors: Design is more Important than Hardware
Successors have less costumizability possibilities
Less gimmicks
Project Zero als means Zero Feature Range
Successors: More gaps
Successors: requiring getting used to
Successors: Less Setting Possibilities
Successors: Making many things worse (Now, the S6 does have the iPhone photo animation.)
Successors: Uglier UI Sounds
Successors: Many useful features are vanished
Successors: Harder to use (e.g. you can't access the AppInfo from App Switcher +++ you can't access display settings and clock settings from the dropdown menu)
Successors: Loss of Pre-Installed Features (Like Creating/Extracting ZIP Files with the native file manager or drop down menu with two fingers)
If there is a UI change, there must be the possiblity to get the old one back (like Lollipop Task Switcher or Lollipop Drop Down Menu or TouchWiz Message Boxes)
Successors: Less flexibility and capabilities and usability. (Water-Resistance; USB 3.0 (Faster Data Transfer); MicroSD; MHL-MicroHDMI; Removable Battery; Large battery; Many Features; Useful Features ← all missing. )
Successors: I really hope the Physical Shutter Button from the Omnia 2 GT-i8000 (2009/2010 Flagship) to come back to Samsung.
Successors: Less Sensors (Gesture, TSP-Hovering, Temperature, Humidity, Air-Pressure, UV)
Loss of Backwards Compatibility (Applications or MMS Video Recording etc…)
So it#s impossible to call Project-Zero-Phones „flagship“.
The two phones which had most of the features and the lowest amount of lost features at their release date were the S2 GT-i9100 and the Note 3 SM-N9005.
A great thanks to @hella356 and @bbbobbbo for the great comprehension.
If something is wrong, feel free mentioning it by posting here or sending me a private message.
Feel free posting your opinion here! Every post is welcome.
I do really miss the old times of Smartphones and normal Cell Phones, where there were only new features, no lost features.
Here is a list of lost features, which can be used to ShowOff in your school class:
Air Gestures (S4, Note 3)
TSP-Hovering (S4, Note 3, Alpha) Call Number: *#0*# or *#7353#.
Temperature and Humidity Sensor (S4, Note 3)
Smart Pause [S4, Note 3]
Smart Stay [S4, Note 3]
Smart Rotation [S4, Note 3]
Smart Screen [S4, Note 3]
Smart Scroll [S4, Note 3]
Air View (e.g. Video Player Bubble)
Video Thumbnail Playback [If you don't like it or want to save battery, disable it]
Toolbox
Note 2, S4, Note 3, S5 and Alpha: Camera Features and Scene Modes
MHL-MicroHDMI
Dropdown-Menu: Drop with Two Fingers and call all features
The Second generation of ProjectZero.
Important Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-missing-feature-galaxy-t2866382/post61982181
I can't believe it! Samsung made suicide. That can't be true. :crying:
I truly hope Samsung to come back to the good side of fortune.
In the meantime: Feel Free sharing your disappointment in this thread.
@hella356: Your -E Models-Idea was a very good idea‼ (Removable Battery, MicroSD, etc.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...storage-removable-t3050516/page2#post62442231
Let's hope the best for Samsung:
Say NO to Project Zero.
ProjectZero 2? No way‼
Hannah Stern said:
Hello, everybody.
Everybody does still remember the great shock, where Samsung switched to the evil side of Smartphones with the S6. Nobody expected Samsung ever to do that to the people, who appreciated Samsung before.
Now everybody hoped the Note 5 to be a better Smartphone than the S6, and everybody, who appreciated the OLD „Samsung“ hoped Samsung to fix the S6 disadvantages on the Note 5.
But the codename „Project Zero 2“ made Samsungs Market Suicide for sure.
Example: TSP-Hovering was something great to show off in front of pupils from your school class. The nice S4 and Note 3 gimmicks were good to show off.
But showing off with an S6 is rather impossible.
And if you're in survival mode, the 2550 mAh of the S6 won't keep you alive very long.
Important: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
Comparisson between the old and the new Samsung:
OLD:
Newer Phone = More Features
Newer Phones must cover the FULL FEATURE RANGE of the old phone.
Newer Phones are able to be used to show off
Newer Phones do not lose a single feature
Newer Phones have a better battery runtime
Newer Phones have cuter user interfaces
Successors will impress
Hardware is more important than Design
NEW:
Successors with ugly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GalaxyS6_Logo.Png (File History)
Successors don't show the model number (e.g. GT-i9506 or SM-N9005) on the boot screen. So the i9506 looks like a stock i9505
Successors get uglier user interface
Successors only have the most important and basic features
Successors get new features, that get lost on the next phone.
Successors get more restrictions
Successors loose more and more features
Successors: Unable to showoff
Successors: Design is more Important than Hardware
Successors have less costumizability possibilities
Less gimmicks
Project Zero als means Zero Feature Range
Successors: More gaps
Successors: requiring getting used to
Successors: Less Setting Possibilities
Successors: Making many things worse (Now, the S6 does have the iPhone photo animation.)
Successors: Uglier UI Sounds
Successors: Many useful features are vanished
Successors: Harder to use (e.g. you can't access the AppInfo from App Switcher +++ you can't access display settings and clock settings from the dropdown menu)
Successors: Loss of Pre-Installed Features (Like Creating/Extracting ZIP Files with the native file manager or drop down menu with two fingers)
If there is a UI change, there must be the possiblity to get the old one back (like Lollipop Task Switcher or Lollipop Drop Down Menu or TouchWiz Message Boxes)
Successors: Less flexibility and capabilities and usability. (Water-Resistance; USB 3.0 (Faster Data Transfer); MicroSD; MHL-MicroHDMI; Removable Battery; Large battery; Many Features; Useful Features ← all missing. )
Successors: I really hope the Physical Shutter Button from the Omnia 2 GT-i8000 (2009/2010 Flagship) to come back to Samsung.
Successors: Less Sensors (Gesture, TSP-Hovering, Temperature, Humidity, Air-Pressure, UV)
Loss of Backwards Compatibility (Applications or MMS Video Recording etc…)
So it#s impossible to call Project-Zero-Phones „flagship“.
The two phones which had most of the features and the lowest amount of lost features at their release date were the S2 GT-i9100 and the Note 3 SM-N9005.
A great thanks to @hella356 and @bbbobbbo for the great comprehension.
If something is wrong, feel free mentioning it by posting here or sending me a private message.
Feel free posting your opinion here! Every post is welcome.
I do really miss the old times of Smartphones and normal Cell Phones, where there were only new features, no lost features.
Here is a list of lost features, which can be used to ShowOff in your school class:
Air Gestures (S4, Note 3)
TSP-Hovering (S4, Note 3, Alpha) Call Number: *#0*# or *#7353#.
Temperature and Humidity Sensor (S4, Note 3)
Smart Pause [S4, Note 3]
Smart Stay [S4, Note 3]
Smart Rotation [S4, Note 3]
Smart Screen [S4, Note 3]
Smart Scroll [S4, Note 3]
Air View (e.g. Video Player Bubble)
Video Thumbnail Playback [If you don't like it or want to save battery, disable it]
Toolbox
Note 2, S4, Note 3, S5 and Alpha: Camera Features and Scene Modes
MHL-MicroHDMI
Dropdown-Menu: Drop with Two Fingers and call all features
The Second generation of ProjectZero.
Important Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-missing-feature-galaxy-t2866382/post61982181
I can't believe it! Samsung made suicide. That can't be true. :crying:
I truly hope Samsung to come back to the good side of fortune.
In the meantime: Feel Free sharing your disappointment in this thread.
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Totally agree! It is beyond my comprehension as to why Samsung is doing all this, and TBH I'm starting to not give a flying f**k!
As Hannah so well pointed out, Samsung as we all used to know no longer exists! It really is becoming just an IPhone with an added stylus, only worse.
Oh, and Hannah, among the missing features let's not forget:
- embedded location (street name and number) in the pictures name, like Note 2's;
- real physical FM radio;
- photo signature, like Note 3's;
- is really IR blaster missing, or is it just rumours?
So as farm as I'm concerned, I' ll be sticking with my current Note 4 long as I can , and as soon as a mother-of-all-phones hits the market, WITH a stylus like Spen, I'll be its first owner!
bbbobbbo said:
Totally agree! It is beyond my comprehension as to why Samsung is doing all this, and TBH I'm starting to not give a flying f**k!
As Hannah so well pointed out, Samsung as we all used to know no longer exists! It really is becoming just an IPhone with an added stylus, only worse.
Oh, and Hannah, among the missing features let's not forget:
- embedded location (street name and number) in the pictures name, like Note 2's;
- real physical FM radio;
- photo signature, like Note 3's;
- is really IR blaster missing, or is it just rumours?
So as farm as I'm concerned, I' ll be sticking with my current Note 4 long as I can , and as soon as a mother-of-all-phones hits the market, WITH a stylus like Spen, I'll be its first owner!
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You're absolutely 1000 Percents right. Thank you very much for your reply.
What the hell actually happened to Samsung? I simply can't believe that.
The only way, Samsung can return is that less and less people buy their devices, so that they cancel ProjectZero.
ProjectZero=SamsungSuicide
Definition of ProjectZero:
Zero Reputation for Samsung
Zero Feature Range
Zero end-user friendly
Zero Flexibility
Loss of Features
Design has a higer priority than Hardware+Flexibility+Software+UI
But for the People, who appreciated SAMSUNG before, the FEATURES are more important than the DESIGN!!!!!
Design-Priority is something for iPhone.
Their Phones have:
Just 1 GB Ram
1850 mAh (Galaxy Alpha has 1860 mAh) Battery
No 4K Video
Crappy Camera User Interface
Setting Menu: Ugly User Interface
But Apples advantage is, that successors don't lose any feature.
Samsung must not go that way.
Nobody expected the S6 to be such a CrapFone (or CrapPhone).
Before S6 Release:
Everybody imagined the S6 to be like that: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/38/20150721132405!GalaxyS6_Logo.Png
But Samsung made it like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/GalaxyS6_Logo.Png
Ugly, no Features and a low amount of new features.
In 2011, we knew Samsung a different way. But in 2015, Samsung isn't Samsung anymore.
The fact, that my Nexus 7 had no MicroSD was a great torture for me.
I had to struggle with Space Storage etc. and i wished to have a Galaxy Note 8.
That time, i was lucky, that Samsung only made devices with MicroSD. But now?
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Also: Great thanks to @Neo3D and @xda rocks for their threads. And @hella356's idea for the -E Models.
and you, @bbbobbbo, you understand, why i truly hate Samsungs 2015 changes. I truly don't like, what Samsung did in 2015. And many other Samsuns costumers also don't.
Samsung shrinks the battery size just to make the device thinner and to look more stylish. But that's not important at all.
If you're in survival mode, battery size will be much more useful than a good design.
If you're alone in a dark wood with a Galaxy S6, your battery charge is 1% and you've got a second battery with 73% charge (but you can't insert it), then the good design of the S6 won't rescue you.
The S5 has a greater and removable battery, which is able to rescue you from there.
Also a Nokia 3310 would be better than a Galaxy S6 in this case.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/thickness-phone-to-batter-battery-life-t3133035
Here is the link to the thread, where you can hope the Note 5 to be better: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/samsung-expandable-storage-removable-t3050516/
Thanks @Neo3D
AndroidSon said:
If they remove expandable storage, Note 4 will be my last Note.
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The Note-Smartphone must stay a business-smartphone, not an iPhone Phablet!
And for Business, you'll most likely need MHL, MicroSD and USB 3.0!
Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!
UpInTheAir said:
Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!
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We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
bbbobbbo said:
We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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Stop whining, and get another phone. END OF STORY !! Who cares about your rant about "crappy" specs, we are proactive here in XDA and maintain a positive attitude rather than moan about a regretful purchase.
UpInTheAir said:
Stop whining, and get another phone. END OF STORY !! Who cares about your rant about "crappy" specs, we are proactive here in XDA and maintain a positive attitude rather than moan about a regretful purchase.
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Why don't you take your pro -activism and go troll somewhere else?
This thread has been specifically opened to WHINE about Note 5, so go open your own thread where you can show your Note 5 fanboys how proactive you are.
I kind of like my note 5 with an 8 core processor and 16mp camera. It's a very fast phone and lollipop 5.1.1 official is awesome. I'm no noob when it comes to running custom roms but I will be doing so as soon as one gets released. The only downfall on the note 5 is no hotspot toggle in settings on the sprint 64gb version. My girlfriend got the s6+edge gold on sprint and the hotspot feature is in settings :/
bbbobbbo said:
We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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@UpInTheAir Yes, this thread is actually dedicated for that. Here, you can post your disappointments.
Samsung is the only Android phone manufacturer, which does not use those crappy virtual on-screen-keys. They suck and eat up 160 Pixels from the Screen.
But Project Zero does stop Samsungs phones to be unique.
ebs512 said:
I kind of like my note 5 with an 8 core processor and 16mp camera. It's a very fast phone and lollipop 5.1.1 official is awesome. I'm no noob when it comes to running custom roms but I will be doing so as soon as one gets released. The only downfall on the note 5 is no hotspot toggle in settings on the sprint 64gb version. My girlfriend got the s6+edge gold on sprint and the hotspot feature is in settings :/
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Yes. I would like Samsung to pack everything in the drop-down-menu like on the Note 3 and the S5. You can access the dropdown menu from everywhere…
bbbobbbo said:
No custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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That is also 100% correct.
In my giant post in the Note 4 thread, i mentioned over 20 Missing Hardware Features of ProjectZero Phones and the Note 4.
It's impossible to make an app, which will add MHL or make Data Transfer as fast as the USB 3.0 from the Note 3 and the S5.
No app can measure the air temperature on the S6.
And no costum firmware ROM is able to make the S6 edge usable underwater. Only nanocoating does.
Is there any Application, which makes the S6 battery bigger?
Is there any Application, which makes you able to use MicroSD on the S6?
Is there any Application, which makes the Note 5 to use USB type C?
You want to present something on your Note 5. The TV does not support screen mirroring but has HDMI. Is there any app, which can help me there? The ProjectZero USB Port does not support MHL! It will destroy MHL!
Is there any Application to make EFUse revertable?
And is there any Application, which will make you able to listen to Radio on the Note 4, without using up Internet Traffic? (UKW-Radio does not require Internet Connection)
Is there any application, which can detect your finger, if you hover it over your touchscreen, without touching the screen itself?
S4: Yes
Note 3: Yes
Alpha: Yes.
But S6 and Note 5 are newer than Note 3. So they must have this feature, but they don't!
Is there any way to make the Note 5 to measure the humidity of the air?
Easy answer @UpInTheAir:
NO. There is no way.
I'm very sorry to say that, but Samsungs good times seem to be over.
@hella356 - Let's hope the -E models to have all sensors too.
@bbbobbbo: Your Posts were simply great. You know, what i mean :laugh:
UpInTheAir said:
Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!
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Your comment makes no sense. If consumers did not demand what we want, then smartphones will still have 3.5" screens like Steve Jobs originally intended.
Also, demand is an important part of one of the foundations of capitalism which is: SUPPLY & DEMAND.
Lastly, how can your kernel make up for the loss of ability to add 128gb storage to phone? Are you going to use file compression on everything to squeeze more space out of it? Windows has this already and it runs SLOW AS HELL.
How can your kernel DOUBLE or TRIPLE the real battery life? A replaceable battery lets us DOUBLE and TRIPLE the battery life by swapping out batteries, which takes <20 seconds.
Thanks for contributing but your statements MAKE NO SENSE.
I intend to buy a Note 5.
After reading this post, I still want to buy it LOL
Neo3D said:
Your comment makes no sense. If consumers did not demand what we want, then smartphones will still have 3.5" screens like Steve Jobs originally intended.
Also, demand is an important part of one of the foundations of capitalism which is: SUPPLY & DEMAND.
Lastly, how can your kernel make up for the loss of ability to add 128gb storage to phone? Are you going to use file compression on everything to squeeze more space out of it? Windows has this already and it runs SLOW AS HELL.
How can your kernel DOUBLE or TRIPLE the real battery life? A replaceable battery lets us DOUBLE and TRIPLE the battery life by swapping out batteries, which takes <20 seconds.
Thanks for contributing but your statements MAKE NO SENSE.
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Please actually read my post. If you don't understand the gist, then don't bother replying......
I implied for users to be pro-active in things they actually CAN change (software). Obviously nothing can be done about hardware ......
I only commented about what I intend to do (as far as actually CONTRIBUTING TO XDA - instead of moaning which contribute NOTHING).
You know how many times I bricked my new device today,...... lost count. Was trying to port CF-AUTOROOT to our shiny new toy !! Just failed the last little bit on flash. Maybe the binary just doesn't work with 7420 5.1.1 yet or Sepolicy ?
Why knowingly buy a car with no wheels and complain when you can't go anywhere. Think about it :what:
as per post 2 questions
1) is true that is the brighter screen ever seen) so that I can read a book under the sun?
2) subjective question: is the relatively limited width a problem to see a movie? I found my nirvana with the samsugn galaxy tab s2, do you think if you want to enjoy a movie need a tablet or this will finally do the trick? ( I know is a stupid question but is a huge selling point for me)
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Honor has recently been putting out some great new phones. Their budget lineup currently consists of the Honor 7X and the Honor 9 Lite. The Honor 7X is one of our favorite budget phones right now, and has even become the best selling phone in the Amazon unlocked phones category. The Honor 9 Lite has just recently launched in India and is quickly gaining traction due to its super low price.
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Honor listens closely to the XDA community and takes your opinions seriously, so now is your chance to tell them what you think. We will pick one lucky reviewer to win a Google Home Mini!
A beauty behold !
It's been eight days I BOUGHT it
USED it for alot of time until now.
COLOR is Midnight Black (personally wanted this, although other colors were tempting too)
Things that necessarily require mentions:
Network Bands (4g,3g,2g)
The network strength is perfectly fine, the signal doesn't fool. It correctly takes the receptivity to the exact extent needed, you wont loose any even in remote areas. If an iphone user has a network strength like one bit in his notification bar, you too are having surely. So, here network isn't a problem with this phone.
The Weight
In today world, we could be of carrying any weights, but when it comes to the phones, the weight really matters. If it's above 180g, boy, take it in written, so much pain in hand, soo much when talking calls, soo much in holding it straight infront. Soo much in pocket too. This phone instead is only 149g, which is excellently lightweight. The utmost benefit would be for people who waited for a phone which had good specs and stands equal to others of its range aswell. For the lightweight phones preferring people, finally the wait is over
Body Built
A strong phone doesnt mean an awesome phone. A weak phone doesnt mean poor quality. Firstly, one should know there is no such thing like strong or weak in phones of major brands. It is purely specs that decide to the needs of people and make phones accordingly. This phone has Severely flaunting looks. Totally an eye catcher. The glass back is soo beautiful & makes you want to look at it rather than looking at the screen most of the time
Display Screen
The 18:9 ratio is more than you can ask for in this phone. I mean, you are getting a 428ppi screen, what more do you want expect that huge clarity and detail in this price range and phone screen This looks more crisp than the any other budget phones, i guarantee you baby, its 428ppi, you donno how good the screen gets when its 428. Most of the phones were 403ppi and looked already good enough. This is much better now.
Platform
You are not in line, like before a person or after a person. You are right next to each other, like holding hands. Which means, you are in such a thing called " Happiness comes in all sizes and quantities :victory:." Because, its HiSilicon Kirin 659 in all the phones of the honor budget class range. Which would benefit you highly in performing without causing any complexities. Games are good to play, if one knows how to tweak better, then it's kickass
Memory
4GB and 64GB, is more than enough and perfect. You wont require more for this processor and budget.
Camera
This is the core purpose of this phone. Damn, the photos are soo good, sooooo good that you will for the first time find yourself have a true "Wow" reaction on your face when you snap them. Selfies are great aswell. People mentioned alot in the comments session in major sellers websites that the nighttime shots are horrible in the rear camera. You should know one thing, you aren't carrying a DSLR or HandyCAM, its your phone. its primary utility was to communicate. You are wrong to expect it to do well in a lowlight location. Not even a DSLR with a flash can be capable of better picture quality. Even professionals use heavy lights for the good feel in a photo when movies are made. So, a phone you are expecting to do this night capable photography job is totally a myth. Think once, there is no point of expecting some heavy landscape photography over night. Even James Cameron would shoot his film in the day with soo expensive cameras. If still you arent happy then when it's night time you want to snap something, its not phone you require, that's surveillance camera you need to carry with yourself having night vision lens :laugh:
Sound
That's loud. You will be totally fine with it. Just as loud as it can fit in there. Music has clarity and crispness, bass isn't an element for music through speakers, earphones does the job well if someone needed bass.
Software
The Android 8.0 is soo well designed, it would understand your interests. Even would show you few that you wouldn't have imagined to find them in phone. There are all the modifications possibly existing in every popular custom ROM readily available in this honor phone stock ROM itself. The settings hold various toggles to change according to your liking. Below they are listed...
Huawei ID It takes care of backing up all the contacts, messages, calender and necessary stuff to the cloud provided by Huawei.
Wireless & Networks Lte, VoLTE configurations can be modified, data usage with specific networked apps is added advantage.
Apps & Notifications Apps to uninstall or disable, enable is available. Default apps, App twin & notification mods such as network meter, etc are here too.
Battery setting In this option, there is a power saving mode that can give you more than 4days standby if stuck to only few basic utilities with the phone.
Display setting Eye Comfort which can exchange color of screen to cool, warm feel. Screen resolution modification which is only in honor that enables to reduce screen density which can result in great power save.
Storage setting You get around 52GB free out of 64GB internal space. The RAM Management is nice too. There is always somehow 2.4GB RAM remaning in 4GB available though around 13apps are in the multitasking window. The software of honor does the RAM allocation very well for tasks processing.
Security & Privacy Fingerprints soo fast (0.25sec), file safe to hide files, App lock, Screen Pinning.
Smart Assistance setting Double tap to wake screen or lock screen.
System setting inside here, there are data transfer, backup & restore, reset, update, etc.
Themes These look soo beautiful and give a punchy look to the phone.
The Magazine Lockscreen This is the best part of the phone when you unlock, the pictures are soo beautiful that just by looking at them, your mind strikes at wow which really is relaxing and refreshing all the time you want them.
Navigation Buttons the onscreen buttons can be exchanged places from right to left which is way convenient for southpaw's.
Battery & Power Consumption
The moderate usage of phone can last a whole day, from 100% in the morning, you can use the phone till next day until same time u charged if you are only on 4g data usage and checking messages, attending calls, by then your battery will be around 10%. In the night, the percentage of drop in non usage is only 2% which is super less. The charging time is alot, but there's something honor's very concerned about, it takes alot of time to charge because, the module of charge input itself is designed by honor in such a way it takes charge slowly (Not to mistake as snail slow) to not spoil the battery life. Hence, this doesn't heat up phone very much. It keeps cool and does its job CooL without messing around. It takes 2hrs15min for full charge. This is same with many mobiles, almost 2hr15min is common with most mobiles.
Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, OTG are all working flawlessly too.
Frankly speaking, cost is soo low, quality we get is really good, more than pleasing for the price we pay for.
Mentions that need to be considered:
I know the camera in our phone is enough capable to get the exact software enhancements i find in HonorV10 Camera app. I clearly see honor is trying to limit these enhancements for the sake people would fall dull that they invested double the price and got exactly the same software loaded in half priced model (which is ours). Sure, many people might question this out. But, Please, middle class people require somebody to bother them. It's us who suffer the loss or gain equally and still keep calm without having no other choices rather than to convince ourselves we cant get more, nobody cares. The rich complain, they sue, you bother them. We request, we ask things soo much, we are many & loud but unheard (-_-) , you have established soo well in our country market this time, the what we have lost (beauty, power, feel ) in xiaomi phones, we found in yours. Your phones made us feel alive. I felt soo good looking at my Honor 9 Lite, it was worth all the effort you put on. I didnt even buy a Xiaomi phone for myself until date, i felt like us were being played by that company. It didnt feel good. They sold cheap stuff with good software tweaks. It was Hugo Barra who designed software, only because of this Xiaomi phones were a hit. You lagged at it alot in the past until Honor 6X. I never bought any Xiaomi device, i loved the Honor 4x, but found there were no updates. But this time you came superawesome into the market, your software is wayyy better than Xiaomi in looks and feel, all that it finally require is bug fixes, proper tweaks to utilize the whole capacity of the hardware, you do everything from scratch and created us this antique designed masterpiece phones. You should be proud. All you require is massive tweaking in the software, thats all. The processor's are superb, the screen buttersmooth, sound clear crisp and loud. Its the tweaking that's missing. I really wish honor this time you keep alot of effort in giving us customers in the country who bought your phones a huge happy smile. Ask how?? Here's how, we like gifts, gift us like 2 or 3days before festivals an OTA update that solves all the bug issues in our honor phones and then look at the news, scroll down, check the comments session. You would be very well liked. We'd then even feel honored to have had you bothering us and all together. Straight outta heart, we would be TRULY overjoyed that you did care for us this time on.
Dear Honor,
The world is a happy place for as long you, atleast hereafter consider to help us better .
It's the best you can get for the price with some small compromises
Let's start with not so good stuff before we get on to the great stuff!
I've got the 3GB variant and Midnight Black Color, I'm using it now for about 23 days.
Memory Management - Well the RAM/Memory management on this device is very aggressive, Here's how I was watching some dope stuff on YouTube and few Minutes in and I got a call and was talking for about 15 - 20 Mins and after the call ended, I was hoping the youtube app will be in the same state I left it! But, no The app was closed completely and I had to relaunch the app again, and also if you are running music in the background you get this stupid notification saying the app is running in the background and drains battery which can annoy anyone!
Hopefully, they will fix these in future software updates.
And (Not sure whether it's the Memory management or the app's problem), I'm running NOVA Launcher as default After 2 or 3 days, it automatically switched back to the default Launcher, well this only happened twice and after that, I didn't face this problem anymore, I thought it was worth mentioning.
Camera - Well the only thing that I felt weird was with the rear camera when I switched to Portrait mode or Wide Aperture mode It Changed the Resolution to 8MP, but the same with the front camera it was 13MP and there is no option to switch to 13MP, and maybe that's why most of the Tech YouTubers say the front cam of this device is good then the rear.
And also I wish it had EIS hopefully, in future software update we will get it!
It would really help the video quality!
Well, that's the things that annoyed me the most, now let's get to the good stuff!
Design and Build Quality - Well, you might have heard a lot about this, but the device screams Premium, They have nailed the design with this device, it's absolutely gorgeous and It's really light to hold tho, some people may like it, and people like me may want a heavy device (Personal preference).
OS and UI - Well it's really smooth didn't have any lag issues or any of such kind, it's snappy and didn't face any heating issues or so, the only thing is RAM management which I mentioned it earlier and apart from that, it's really good.
Battery and charging speed - I could easily get through a day, I have no complaints about the battery it's really good and I'm happy with it. From 20% to 100% the charging time it took was somewhere around 1hr 15 mins to 1hr 40mins, which is reasonable for a 3000mAh battery, it doesn't support fast charging but I don't think that's an issue as I can get a day's worth of battery and I have no complaints about it, But I did wish it had a Type - C port, it's fine not a big issues but it could've had a Type - C
Speaker and Headphone output - The speaker is loud and clear, there is no Distortion at full volume, there is a bit bass which you can feel and its' good but a finger can cover it and the whole sound can be lost, that's the only issue and that's the issue with all mono down facing speaker.
And for the headphone output, I don't own a premium headset, I have a cheap one and it worked fine with it, it was loud and clear.
Call and Network - Call quality was really good, No issues Tried with Jio, Vodafone and BSNL didn't face any issues, the receiver was able to hear me clear and loud and the data was also at a good speed and with 4G it didn't affect the battery much as I thought it would, Wifi Bridge is one of the really cool features and it works really good.
and Finally
Camera - Well I've already told the problem I faced apart from that I don't have any issues,
It focuses really fast and also takes photos really fast, it's super snappy! I really loved the quality of images that I got in this price segment.
The Pro Photo and Pro Video mode are really good if you know to use them well, There are several other modes The food mode is also good and Timelapse is awesome.
Well, the front cam in portrait mode does fail sometimes to recognize people's face if there are more than 2 persons in the shot, it just happens sometimes and not every time. And I wish it had a Slo-Mo Mode tho.
The images are of really good quality tho, good enough to post on Social Networking sites.
Conclusion - I think it worth the money I paid, It does have some minor issues which can be fixed via Software Update apart from that it's a really good device and I'm Lovin it.
PS - I had actually added images and since I'm a new member XDA doesn't allow new users to post links.
Not very impressed with the Honor 9 Lite.
I did online research and read lots of review on the Honor 9 Lite.
What convinced me was a comparison some reviewer did with his current daily driver, a 1+3t, and was, as he put it, 'pleasantly surprised'. Since my current daily driver is also a 1+3t I relented and bought one, the 3+32GB version.
After using the Honor 9 Lite I don't think it comes anywhere close to a 1+3t. Now I appreciate and understand that it is cheaper than my 1+3t (even at its current value) but I'm not very impressed, especially with the way EMUI 8 completely rapes Android stock ! I knew this going in but never realised to what extent EMUI restrict customisation.
Let me give examples.
1. First thing I always do with every phone i buy is disabled all apps I don't need/use. Some of the apps on the Honor 9 Lite are cooked in and without root cannot be disables, frozen or removed; e.g. Files, Huawei Mobile Service, Themes.
2. Next thing is to replace any homelauncher with my favourite 'Nova'. Well as soon as you do this on the 9Lite you get a pop-up message stating something like 'changing home launcher uses more battery'...What ? Anyway you can force it through and then just change the default home launcher to Nova. Then some of the EMUI widgets, like weather, don't work anymore. That's ok, I expected that, what I did not expect is for it to show up as available but when you try to add it to your homescreen you get a FC and Huawei launcher is back, in effect removing your default launcher you just set.
3. Huawei badges also obviously don't work under Nova; again as expected.
4. Next I fired up Chronus widget so i can get a replacement for the now non-working Huawei weather service (which at least you can disable). Chronus now does not update the alarm. So you set an alarm in clock but Chronus does not pick up the changee unless you go into chronus change something and save it. This was even after i loaded up Google clock and set alarm through that.
All the above works flawlessly in my Oreo based 1+3t.
5. Lag..yes it is a lot worse than my 1+3t, now like i said because of the price difference i did not expect the Kirin659 to be on par with the Snapdragon 821 but the lag difference was much more noticable on the Honor9 lite than i expected.
6. Since Nova was basically non functional I had to return to Huawei's own launcher.
7. No way of hiding status bar. By the way I also tried play store apps, like GMD Full Screen, but it did not work properly.
8. Battery life is one day on normal use.
9. Cameras are acceptable but no better than my single camera 1+3t.
Conclusion:
Not impresssed, it looks great, weight is spot on for me, size is also great so is the screen brightness, but everything else is nothing special and that EMUI8 man, it just restricts you from most customisation which is the reason we all love android. If i wanted restrictions i would have gone for an iphone.
Why should i have to unlock BL and root to be able to do simple things like use full immersive mode. I'd like to keep android pay functioning so don't want to unlock,root and battle with magidisk to hide root. I just want control back of my phone.
Anyway, thought i would put this together outlining my experience with the Honor 9Lite, hopefully yours will be better and find acceptable.
Well, I bought this device as my ex-device was quite old enough(I was using grand 2 as my daily driver).Next,when I was searching for new devices,I was looking for a device which is better in all aspects(camera,looks,sound,performance,signal quality) and also in a moderate price.Then I stumbled across Honor 9 Lite.It was the old phone in my budget range which was able to cater to my demands.It looks gorgeous as ever.The glass body,its colour (I got the Sapphire blue one) and its modern looks with minimal borders made me order the phone without even checking for other details(I already knew it supports 4G and fingerprint sensor) .When I got the phone,I found that it is not too heavy but is indeed slippery due to glossy back,so I applied the cover to increase friction and to prevent falling .
These are the following pros and cons of the phone I found:-
PROS
1.Camera->Both the front and back cameras are awesome and can even capture good amount of detail even in low light condition.Maybe the 4 cameras(2 in pairs does the trick)
2.Android OS->Being latest is the best.This device packs with Android Oreo which many 2017 flagships like S8(they got it but Samsung removed the OTA update) haven't recieved properly
3.Processor->I haven't heard about this processor's name earlier but was shocked by its insane frequency(greater than 2 Ghz) so I decided to do an Antutu benchmark and found that this processor's performance is comparable with Snapdragon 625.
4.Display->Display is awesome.Nothing to say about it
5.Battery->Battery life is a bit-tad low (It lasts 9 hrs for me),so I need to charge atleast once a day.No fast charging support and no USB C was a dissappointment
6.Storage and Ram management-Plenty of Ram(3 GBs) and storage(around 22 GBs),so no complaints there
Hello,
I have problems with using smartphones because of an neurological illness which makes me very light sensitive. So I might ask some questions related to display technologies, screen dimming and phone models, in search of a solution for my problem.
I used to be a programmer in the past, but long time ago. This forum was recommended to me in a Java forum.
Hello to everyone, nice to meet you.
Welcome to XDA
May I ask specifically what is the issue ie epilepsy, migraines etc?
It may not just be brightness but how the light is modulated. OLEDs are typically using duty cycle modulation for dimming. Some allow for current dimming.
LCDs typically use current dimming.
The duty cycle dimming can be irritating to some.
Controlling the room's ambient light levels may be helpful to you. Taking frequent breaks to look at objects further away to reduce eyestrain.
Using system dark mode greatly reduces overall light output. Using dark custom color wallpaper and icons do too.
Disabling all animations may be helpful... it also speeds up the system slightly.
Try using manual brightness control, it can reduce the strain and allow you to chose the best viewing intensity.
Getting rid of as many white icons can help reduce the overall things glaring at you.
Samsung phones have the most customization for this.
blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA
May I ask specifically what is the issue ie epilepsy, migraines etc?
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Thanks, it's chronic fatigue syndrome (not sure as there is no biomarker / laboratory test for this illness due to a lack of research, but that's what doctors told me).
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It may not just be brightness but how the light is modulated.
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I'm sure it's the brightness as I have problems with any kind of displays and light sources: computers, TVs, beamers etc.
I also need to wear sunglasses outside more often than normal people do.
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OLEDs are typically using duty cycle modulation for dimming. Some allow for current dimming.
LCDs typically use current dimming.
The duty cycle dimming can be irritating to some.
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Actually I wanted to ask about OLED and LCD phones. I was able to use a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini with manual brightness control fully turned down and additionally with a screen dimmer app, but it is getting too old now. So I bought an A12 but couldn't bear the light, even not with the manual brightness control turned fully down and an additional screen dimmer app. In the Play Store somebody writes that screen dimmer apps would make the liquid crystal layer of an LCD darker, but not reduce the light emitted by the lamps below. So it would filter away some of the light.
I wonder how a screen dimmer app works on an OLED screen as there is only one layer. Does it reduce the amount of light right from the start? That could explain why I could deal with the (screen dimmed) S3 mini (OLED display) and not with the (screen dimmed) A12 (IPS = LCD). Besides the different display sizes.
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Using system dark mode greatly reduces overall light output.
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I would like to use a messenger app which has no dark mode. Actually it has a white background which makes it very difficult for me, even on the S3 mini.
Is it possible to set inverse colors for just one app? Would it be possible to develop an app who allows to set this for another app? Or does such an app exist already?
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Using dark custom color wallpaper and icons do too.
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By choosing a theme? Sorry, I am not familiar with modern phones.
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Getting rid of as many white icons can help reduce the overall things glaring at you.
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The same.
Thanks a lot
Just a thought... doctors only know and can do so much. In the end it's always the body that heals its self. Start a anerobic workout program. Start pumping steel.
10-20 minutes 3 times a week for the first 2-3 months. Incorporate back squats at the 3 month mark. All free weights.
Limit cardio to 5-10 minutes and only after the free weights or on off days.
Or
If you like swimming, do that.
The body responds to intense limited stress on a cellular level with increased vitality. Controlled intense stress makes you stronger, boosts and modulates the immune system, reduces pain and increases hgh levels. Force your body to adapt the old fashioned way... it's already programmed into your DNA. Flip the switch.
Do not over train.
As for the rest. I can help you with Samsung customization on their newer phones.
You don't need to use dark mode on all apps, some allow you to set your preference. That depends somewhat on the OS version you're using. Brave and Samsung browser allow either mode.
The whole display thing you'll need to research.
I gave you what I know. In general AMOLED displays are best but you'll need to experiment what works best for you. Maybe limiting the length and/or number of sessions per day would provide the best results. Avoid when tired.
@blackhawk Thanks for your help.
At the moment I can't care about this problem.
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@blackhawk Thanks for your help.
At the moment I can't care about this problem.
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Meh, I hear you.
Getting back to your original Q; increase ambient light levels. A bright screen in low light can burn your eyes out. Bring ambient light levels closer to the display level reduces eye strain.
Take a break every 5-30 minutes and look off at a distant object. Close your eyes, chill.
If you don't already, get a cat or a dog. Pick a cool one that has that spark and character. Young rescues are the best, they bond to you like no other.
That is if you like those critters.
Hair of the dog; try a shot of whiskey first thing in the morning. Medicinal this be. Keep it to no more than 2 shots a day, and don't use it to sleep.
Whiskey has antioxidants. See how it feels.
Oddly it hits me completely differently in the morning vs evening and dissipates rapidly.
The Greeks swear by whiskey... of course they tend to swear a lot anyway.