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S10 5G vs. Note 10 5G (Upcoming) ... What to do?

I'm really tempted to order the Samsung S10 5G now from Verizon as it has just about everything I could hope for. Huge screen, huge battery (largest yet), great cameras, faster charging, etc. My only qualm is that the upcoming Note 10 5G may have 2 things I'm willing to pay for. That's UFS 3.0 and hopefully a 12GB of RAM option. I highly doubt that the Note 10 is going to have a bigger battery or even better Camera's. I also know that the next gen Snapdragon (865) that combines 2g to 5g with the X55 and power saving doesn't come out till early 2020 so there isn't too much to look forward to in the Note 10 5G with processing power. I know the Fold had UFS 3.0 and 12GB of RAM.
So what are the chances of the Note 10 getting UFS 3.0 and a 12GB variant?
Are any of you waiting for the same reasons?
What's your thoughts?
Appreciate your time.

Hope you got the s10 5G, either way, they're practically same phone, same specs, note 10 has its stylus, but the s10 5G has better battery, but the note 10 is cheaper

voden07 said:
Hope you got the s10 5G, either way, they're practically same phone, same specs, note 10 has its stylus, but the s10 5G has better battery, but the note 10 is cheaper
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Note 10 is cheaper? It's not available on Note 10 first of all, only on Note 10+. Battery is 45W fast charging and 20W wireless, so 200 mAh less but will charge faster, not sure it's "better". Finally 12GB RAM and SD card expansion, NOT the same phone at all.

I have the S10 5G. Pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G. Totally don't know what to do. I feel the only real advantage for my S10 is the headphone jack I never use. Battery is great, but I don't have an issue charging throughout the day, so I'm good with a touch smaller. I think the 12GB of RAM in the Note is huge. I understand the Note's stereo speakers kill the S10s. Looking for a video review from someone, haven't seen anything yet.
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Hope you got the s10 5G, either way, they're practically same phone, same specs, note 10 has its stylus, but the s10 5G has better battery, but the note 10 is cheaper
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I have the S10 5G. Pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G. Totally don't know what to do. I feel the only real advantage for my S10 is the headphone jack I never use. Battery is great, but I don't have an issue charging throughout the day, so I'm good with a touch smaller. I think the 12GB of RAM in the Note is huge. I understand the Note's stereo speakers kill the S10s. Looking for a video review from someone, haven't seen anything yet.
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How is it an advantage if you never use it? Agree with the 12GB of RAM along with SD card expansion.....

I hope Sam gives us users a TOF face unlock at some point. Also the updated DeX I'm sure someone will rip it, and be able to install in the s105G along with the gaming streaming
Only thing about the new note is what 5g chip they decide to put in it. There is no 5g in my area I'm sure there wont be for sometime. I got this phone for the bigger screen mostly along with the TOF on the front.
I do use my 3.5 jack all the time. I do wish it had an SD card.
I wish there was a ribbin cable that connected to usb-c with a female input for charging. That way you could just hide a SD card inside your case. I looked all over the net no one has ever made such a thing.

damulta said:
I hope Sam gives us users a TOF face unlock at some point. Also the updated DeX I'm sure someone will rip it, and be able to install in the s105G along with the gaming streaming
Only thing about the new note is what 5g chip they decide to put in it. There is no 5g in my area I'm sure there wont be for sometime. I got this phone for the bigger screen mostly along with the TOF on the front.
I do use my 3.5 jack all the time. I do wish it had an SD card.
I wish there was a ribbin cable that connected to usb-c with a female input for charging. That way you could just hide a SD card inside your case. I looked all over the net no one has ever made such a thing.
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256gig of memory space isnt enough? i do like the note 10's 12gig ram though, then again i do feel its an overkill!, im looking forward to its worldwide release, i wont buy it, just know that hackers would strip its 3D scan features so the s10 5G can use it, sammy wouldnt put out an update, im sure of this

Byers regret
I currently have the S10 5g , the Verizon Version however i am using it on Xfinity Mobile and it is not going well at all. I really am frustrated with Samsung for making the 5g so hard to use on any network.
I dont care about 5g speeds but i love the screen size and battery life on the 5g, plus i think the 5g camera is the best of all the models.
I recently placed a preorder for the note 10 512gb and i was all excited about the phone but once i got it, the excitement faded away within 2 days. The note 10 has terrible battery life and it just simply reminded
me of my 5g with an s pen so i returned it.
I am back to the 5g but it is quite challenging trying to get this device to work properly on xfinity mobile. The xfinity sim will work but the APN settings are not correct and cannot be changed and because of this,
mms attachments will not download. I have the 5g verizon 256gb version G977u and currently on update version G977UVR2YSHY. i would like to try the ATT firmware but i have not been successful in finding
any U2 Roms as the U1 roms always fail. I am a Newbie so any assistance would be appreciated as i love my 5g. Just wish it was the 512gb model
exileonmain said:
I'm really tempted to order the Samsung S10 5G now from Verizon as it has just about everything I could hope for. Huge screen, huge battery (largest yet), great cameras, faster charging, etc. My only qualm is that the upcoming Note 10 5G may have 2 things I'm willing to pay for. That's UFS 3.0 and hopefully a 12GB of RAM option. I highly doubt that the Note 10 is going to have a bigger battery or even better Camera's. I also know that the next gen Snapdragon (865) that combines 2g to 5g with the X55 and power saving doesn't come out till early 2020 so there isn't too much to look forward to in the Note 10 5G with processing power. I know the Fold had UFS 3.0 and 12GB of RAM.
So what are the chances of the Note 10 getting UFS 3.0 and a 12GB variant?
Are any of you waiting for the same reasons?
What's your thoughts?
Appreciate your time.
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Which phone should I buy?

Hello everyone
Which phone should I buy?
1. S10 plus
2. Note9
3. P30 pro
4. Mate 20x
5. LG G8
6. LG V50
7. Any other
Plz reply with Which and Why?
Thanking in advance.

OnePlus 7 Pro
- Triple Camera
- 90hz QHD+ Curved AMOLED Screen
- Android 10 (Fast Updates)
- OxygenOS
- WARP Charging
- Snapdragon 855
- 8/12GB RAM
- 128GB/256GB Storage
- UFS 3.0 Storage

One Plus 7T Pro (overall its the best)
Mostly same as the 7 Pro but has Snapdragon 855+ (4% faster chip), 20% faster charging and 85mAh bigger battery.
it ain't much difference but it's better then regular one. Also if price ain't the issue buy McLaren Edition with 12gb of ram.
So 90Hz QHD+ AMOLED display, fast storage, 256GB storage, Triple Cameras, WARP Charging, no Bloatware and fast updates.
BUT if you take alot of pics and videos take P30 pro. It's cameras are way ahead of OnePlus. But it won't be supported for future Android updates.
As for Samsung S10 it's has the best display I've seen so far, cameras are also good. Runs well also. Battery is good (for my use) and has good sounding speakers. The only downside Samsung stock apps. I use Google apps for everything and having double of everything is annoying. Also Bixby SUCKS!!!

No s10+...kuz im using one

S10 Plus / Note9 because they are great phones and Samsung Dex is crazy great.

1. S10 plus = stereo sound ,4k 60FPS 960FPS slowmotion, but the exynos version getting hot fast
3. P30 pro = no 4K 60 @fps slow real slow motion is max at 240frames ) amazing night shots
4. Mate 20x (better telephoto lens if you need this)
7. Any other = like other said here op7 pro (no kind any notch ) 90hz etc UFS 3 storge ..
dont know \ didnt read enough about the other devices

I have the U.S. variant of the S10 plus and the battery life is crazy good.

I have US s10+ and I do not have one complaint. I actually don't mind Samsung's apps and almost have zero google apps (Just google news and maps). Screen is amazing, battery is great, phone is speedy and I have really grown to love oneui over stock android os. Oneui can do so much more. The only thing I want is a 90hz display (hoping the s11 will have it)

sruel3216 said:
I actually don't mind Samsung's apps and almost have zero google apps (Just google news and maps). )
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i bet youre lying!!!
i bet you have the play store too!!!!

youdoofus said:
i bet youre lying!!!
i bet you have the play store too!!!!
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Haha you're correct I lie. But swear that's it lol

Just go for a s10 plus, it's the most complete smartphone from all of them.

LOL, ask in the Pixel, Huawei, and LG forums and you'll probably get different answers.

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Haha you're correct I lie. But swear that's it lol
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its nice to see someone on here with a sense of humor!
back to the topic tho, i honestly cant suggest anything right now. The hype of the S9 and the polar reviews of it makes it really hard to recommend anything with any real confidence unless you have had hands on real life experience and even then. Ya know what i mean? I like my S9, but it wasnt the extraordinary leap that it was made out to be. That being said, i came from the A8 which is a huge underdog IMHO. The front facing camera on the A8 is vastly superior to the S9. No, not a selfie person, i just have some extended family in Romania and the video quality on their end was mentioned several times when i switched to the S9.
The major releases of phones come out early in the year, so this is a good time of year to hunt for a model half way thru its first year and then the hunt for the deal is on. So its a hard call to make. Get a killer deal on an aging phone or wait to be a guinea pig in the spring.
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Tel864 said:
LOL, ask in the Pixel, Huawei, and LG forums and you'll probably get different answers.
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right??? im assuming that in the LG forum theyll tell you that the iphone is the best device, especially if all theyve owned are LGs LOLOLOL kiiding!!

It's almost better to wait until a phone has been out for a year, then read the reviews and decide. Of course, you're then a year behind the latest and greatest.

Looking forward to this release.

Looks like this device is packing a punch, especially now snapdragon will finally hit the uk shores. Any ideas why to look at the s20 Ultra over this device?

Is it going up be possible to unlock the bootloader and install chain recovery and ROM in the Snapdragon version of this phone? From a quick look at the S20 section of this forum only the Exynos versions get custom development.

dj.shauny.g said:
Looks like this device is packing a punch, especially now snapdragon will finally hit the uk shores. Any ideas why to look at the s20 Ultra over this device?
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Nope, none. On a value-for-dollar basis, I think this phone trumps the Ultra hands down. In fact, I just cancelled an order for a Note20 Ultra, as I've realized that I don't need, and likely won't ever use, all those premium features that we pay so much for - this phone looks just right for the price to me.

Mine is shipped and I will get it tomorrow!

Not gonna lie, I'm now having second thoughts as a result of the optical fingerprint sensor and camera performance - not deal breakers for sure at this price point, but security and camera performance are top of my list of priorities, so those give me pause.

Got mine a bit ago. To be honest, i can't tell the difference between the S20 FE and the Note 20 I have been using while waiting for it to arrive.
The S20 FE doesn't have the video enhancer setting, which may or may not make a difference. But also I noted in a super quick camera test, that the Note 20 looked better at 3x zoom than the S20 FE did. I would have thought the S20 would have looked better there.

jtOttawa said:
Not gonna lie, I'm now having second thoughts as a result of the optical fingerprint sensor and camera performance - not deal breakers for sure at this price point, but security and camera performance are top of my list of priorities, so those give me pause.
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Fingerprint sensor works fine. It's as fast as the sensor on my Huawei P30 Pro and so far hasn't failed to read my fingerprint.

flibblesan said:
Fingerprint sensor works fine. It's as fast as the sensor on my Huawei P30 Pro and so far hasn't failed to read my fingerprint.
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Would you be able to check if the 40W SuperCharger from your P30 Pro works with the S20 FE at 25W?
I'm upgrading from a broken P30 and it would be cool if I didn't have to buy the 25W Samsung charger.
Cheers

My S20 FE 5G is coming today, really excited :victory:

CitizenLee said:
Would you be able to check if the 40W SuperCharger from your P30 Pro works with the S20 FE at 25W?
I'm upgrading from a broken P30 and it would be cool if I didn't have to buy the 25W Samsung charger.
Cheers
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It doesn't work unfortunately. Doesn't seem to be charging any faster than the standard charger.

Question is this phone still the best bang for the buck in 2022

Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!

There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.

Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.

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There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input

no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..

Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?

The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.

In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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1q3er5 said:
interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.

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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.

david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52

Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.

According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.

Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here

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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!

Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.

aleMarvel said:
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.

Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.
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Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.