General S21 Ultra (Exynos) gets hotter than S20+ (Exynos) while using the camera - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

So I made a test. 4K30 Video, 15 minutes.
S20+ vs S21 Ultra
Result?
S20+ lost 5% battery (CPU afterwards 41° Celsius)
S21 Ultra lost 7% battery (CPU afterwards 44° Celsius)
The S21 also felt way hotter to the touch.
How can that be? I thought the Exynos 990 was way worse? How can a phone with a larger battery lose more battery and also get hotter.
Samsung has to fix this. And this is with 4K30 not 4K60 or 8K24. I guess it will melt in the summer while shooting a video.

That's a known problem already. Let's just hope its software related so Samsung can fix it soon. As far as I am aware s20 line had this similar issue before too and it was fixed after a few software updates.

My Snapdragon S21U also runs a lot hotter than N20U Snapdragon

iamnotkurtcobain said:
So I made a test. 4K30 Video, 15 minutes.
S20+ vs S21 Ultra
Result?
S20+ lost 5% battery (CPU afterwards 41° Celsius)
S21 Ultra lost 7% battery (CPU afterwards 44° Celsius)
The S21 also felt way hotter to the touch.
How can that be? I thought the Exynos 990 was way worse? How can a phone with a larger battery lose more battery and also get hotter.
Samsung has to fix this. And this is with 4K30 not 4K60 or 8K24. I guess it will melt in the summer while shooting a video.
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you shoot in wqhd and 120hz on the S21U and you ask why it's hotter and lost more batterry ?

UNIK97122 said:
you shoot in wqhd and 120hz on the S21U and you ask why it's hotter and lost more batterry ?
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I had FHD+ on the S20+ and S21 Ultra and it's 60hz while using the camera.

Dear friends who have problem with overheating, did you get March updated and did they fix overheating?
Thx a lot

March made it worse in my case

UNIK97122 said:
you shoot in wqhd and 120hz on the S21U and you ask why it's hotter and lost more batterry ?
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Camera doesn't shoot at 120hz it goes down to 60hz in the camera application.

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Battery life thread

I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
Please post your consumption
With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
It looks as though not having you're screen on 90hz makes a large difference.
On average over 21h usage I'm getting 7 to 8hours of SOT but then the battery will be about 10% my screen is set to 90hz spo I must use a lot of power.
That's one hell of a mobile phone order :good: how is the Samsung ultra which do you prefer? How is the build quality between the two which feels better?
Combatfroggy said:
It looks as though not having you're screen on 90hz makes a large difference.
On average over 21h usage I'm getting 7 to 8hours of SOT but then the battery will be about 10% my screen is set to 90hz spo I must use a lot of power.
That's one hell of a mobile phone order :good: how is the Samsung ultra which do you prefer? How is the build quality between the two which feels better?
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Feel is subjective. Both in cases so can't really feel. P40 being smaller is more comfortable.
That snapdragon gpu is a beast. And that phone never gets above 35c whether fast charging or games. P40 pro is about 3 to 5 degrees celcius hotter generally.
They both play any game easily. When it comes to difficult emulator games the snapdragon is a few frames better
The p40 pro is more efficient even with smaller battery, I'll try 90hz tomorrow
S20 ultra looks more premium, just. Has better sounding speakers too but the p40 pro is louder
The p40 pro has a better camera. Not by much, generally better zoomed in pics. Much better low light and better focus ?
Leaning towards keeping the p40 pro
Samsung have had a focus problem on there phones since 9 series devices...
I'm not sure whether to send the p40 back and keep the note 10+ or not??
I do prefer emui over Samsung ui
You can see the difference in the power drain between 90 hz and 60hz on the attached photo. 60hz being the bottom power drain.
I have also noticed that you can turn off 5G up in the quick settings which might save some power? No point having it turned on when hardly anywhere has 5G
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You can see the difference in the power drain between 90 hz and 60hz on the attached photo. 60hz being the bottom power drain.
I have also noticed that you can turn off 5G up in the quick settings which might save some power? No point having it turned on when hardly anywhere has 5G
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That does look substantial. I'm checking this myself. I prefer EMUI too can't stand Samsungs new battery info layout
Started another battery cycle with the screen set to 60hz and 5G off. And after 1 hour of usage and 1hr of SOT I'm at 98%!
Very interested to see the results tomorrow evening.
lawtq said:
I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
Please post your consumption
With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
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if your ultra is exynos its not suprising you get bad battery life out of the s20
xnostra said:
if your ultra is exynos its not suprising you get bad battery life out of the s20
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It's snapdragon
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It's snapdragon
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well that is more bad then cause the snapdragon is the best one with regards to s20 ultra but i know their optimization is really not good maybe thats why you get bad sot
xnostra said:
well that is more bad then cause the snapdragon is the best one with regards to s20 ultra but i know their optimization is really not good maybe thats why you get bad sot
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It's not bad with the snapdragon. It's good actually. It's just better with the p40 pro
Which one are you sticking with the s20 or the Huawei?
lawtq said:
Feel is subjective. Both in cases so can't really feel. P40 being smaller is more comfortable.
That snapdragon gpu is a beast. And that phone never gets above 35c whether fast charging or games. P40 pro is about 3 to 5 degrees celcius hotter generally.
They both play any game easily. When it comes to difficult emulator games the snapdragon is a few frames better
The p40 pro is more efficient even with smaller battery, I'll try 90hz tomorrow
S20 ultra looks more premium, just. Has better sounding speakers too but the p40 pro is louder
The p40 pro has a better camera. Not by much, generally better zoomed in pics. Much better low light and better focus ?
Leaning towards keeping the p40 pro
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Yes I believe snapdragon still better for gaming. Only problem is our area only have the exynos varient
My Mate 20 Pro with 4200 mAh was easily the best smartphone that I owned in terms of battery life. I also used to have a Honor 8 Pro for a while and it had good battery life as well. So I'm not surprised that the P40 Pro's battery life is great. Maybe it's because of Huawei's "aggressive RAM management", not sure.
I don't think the p40pro is in the same league as the mate 20 Pro that things battery was epic.
I have the p40 pro. Everytime it reaches 13%, i know it'll run out of battery soon, less than 5 minutes. Is this happening to you too? Cause it's really frustrating. My old p30 pro never did this...
lawtq said:
I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
Please post your consumption
With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
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I'm in a similar if lower specced (but only just) kinda of boat currently using the Samsung note 10 lite and I just got the P40 non pro this week.
Battery life is definitely way better on the P40. The Samsung I'm using very lightly right now (mainly yt music and regular phone calls) and it doesn't last that much longer than the P40 which is in use almost all ways. If not it's probably a hot-spot or always on display or both.
Turning off 5g definetley makes a difference. I'm in London so I have 5g almost everywhere but even with 5g disabled and lower battery usage I'm seeing really fast connection speed (over 700B/s)
Really want to make a test of the ultra pow energy mode. My phone thinks it can achieve ove 60 hours run time from 69% battery charge. If that's really possible just wow.
I haven't tested a lot of games yet but I have fired up xplane. It ran perfectly looked gorgeous in this tiny pixel dense screen and hardly used the battery faster than browsing. Got some emulators too they run like honey and the phone doesn't even get hot at all so far in the emulators I've tried.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Heat is so minimal when using the phone but have tested video extensively or gaming. Heat is nearly non existent in other tasks. I think it is actually a bit too low when charging. Seems they have the charging throttled to keep the battery temp under 100°F which limits charging speed slower than it cloud be.
AndroidPurity said:
Heat is so minimal when using the phone but have tested video extensively or gaming. Heat is nearly non existent in other tasks. I think it is actually a bit too low when charging. Seems they have the charging throttled to keep the battery temp under 100°F which limits charging speed slower than it cloud be.
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My exynos variant have a high temp at idle and load. Soc idle min 42, normal uses 50-58celsius, max soc temp is 68c.
Antutu scores after loop.
1.run 540k
2.run 520k
3. run 460k
My Exynos is cold in idle, cold in web browsing and warm while playing ragnarok mobile
It heat like a hot fry pan. While using phone normally. if i get call. I can't even touch is to my cheek. Sometimes it feel it will burn my skin.
With my Note 9 this heating issue was even more worst. Due to overheat. I wasn't able to use camera more than 10-15 minutes. Camera app keep stopping because of overheat.
Worst phone brand. Even after having so much innovation. Samsung Note series always disappoint me.
The only time I notice any heat build up at all is when it's on a wireless charger. Charging with the 25 watt included charger there's no heat at all.
When using Camera and try all options , different zooms , Device starts heating and gets to an abnormal temperature , this is affects the 5G signal , as it disconnects the 5G recipient automatically and turns to LTE !!
In my testing, the "Exynos" Note20U is not heating up like the previous Galaxies.
My SD version gets a bit warm just from normal tasks. And my battery life is atrocious :/ I really like this device but I may need to contact Samsung about a replacement and see if I got a defective one.
Exynos version at 120hz, a bit over room temperature screen off, warm when in use and hot when taking pictures. My note 10+ and oneplus 7t pro were never this warm. I'm also getting pretty bad battery life.
Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB Unlocked/Sprint
All around quite warm, charging, viewing, hotspotting.
UHD60 capture definitely gets the transistors in George Foremen mode if you catch my drift.
For mine, heat issue seems exacerbated by being on 5G signal. No heat when on 4G LTE / CDMA Only mode.
Virgo_Guy said:
In my testing, the "Exynos" Note20U is not heating up like the previous Galaxies.
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Forgot to add that it does warm up a bit in mobile data even when usage isn't high.
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Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB Unlocked/Sprint
All around quite warm, charging, viewing, hotspotting.
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Strange. Having used notes since the first, i must say this is the coolest phone ive had. By cool i mean temp - avg cpu is low 30°cs, multiple runs of back to back antutu only got me to 37°c - with performance varience less than 3%.
It didnt heat up much when charging, editing 108mp files, or 4K/60 recording
Of course this is SD 865+ (N986N South Korea), not exynos like my older notes.
But so is yours. Like Jerry Rigs, may be urs has graphite cooling.. I wonder if some phones (like SK version) have the SD chip with copper cooling = which would be the perfect combo...
Note 20 Ultra Exynos990 heat Up so much. I don't understand what samsung is doing with exynos.
Snapdragon HK version here. No heat whatsoever. I am not playing games. The screen sometimes gets just warm when I use extensive tasks (camera, youtube, etc). CPU temperature always below 40C.
UK Exynos990 from official pre-order, so bad in heating and battery life. Warm normal use anything slightly CPU/GPU intensive make the phone as hot as a fry pan.
Note 20 ULTRA 5G 256GB "Exynos" - mine seems cool most of the time. Haven't been able to make it hot even with gaming or using camera.
Seems huge improvement compared with Note 8 in this area.
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nipuna said:
Strange. Having used notes since the first, i must say this is the coolest phone ive had. By cool i mean temp - avg cpu is low 30°cs, multiple runs of back to back antutu only got me to 37°c - with performance varience less than 3%.
It didnt heat up much when charging, editing 108mp files, or 4K/60 recording
Of course this is SD 865+ (N986N South Korea), not exynos like my older notes.
But so is yours. Like Jerry Rigs, may be urs has graphite cooling.. I wonder if some phones (like SK version) have the SD chip with copper cooling = which would be the perfect combo...
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Wow are your temps still that low? How about when wireless charging? I have the South Korean version too and I hit about 40c when wireless charging, and a lot of times it just sits around 35c when doing normal tasks.

Question S21 Ultra Exynos Heating Problem

Hlo guys, Hope you all are doing well.
I bought an S21 Ultra (Exynos) yesterday and it seems to be running hot even during normal usage. It heats up while I charge it (with a 33W Xiaomi charger) and it heats up even more (goes upto 43°C) while I am on a video call. I'm a little bit worried. Is this a faulty unit or just a software issue? Please help me out guys.
maharoof said:
Hlo guys, Hope you all are doing well.
I bought an S21 Ultra (Exynos) yesterday and it seems to be running hot even during normal usage. It heats up while I charge it (with a 33W Xiaomi charger) and it heats up even more (goes upto 43°C) while I am on a video call. I'm a little bit worried. Is this a faulty unit or just a software issue? Please help me out guys.
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It will do that for a few days. I had the same experience on the first 2-3 days. But the heating issue went away after that. It will still heat up occasionally (just like any other computer) and especially when you do anything involving the camera. All the new apps are constantly writing info, building cache, etc - this should ease off once the initial intense activity has completed. Some heating is bound to happen when charging too.
The only things I would recommend changing for now are: If you don't use 5G or have poor coverage in your area, turn off 5G scanning from Connections setting. This seemed to help me with battery as well as heating. And FHD+ instead of WQHD+ resolution (at least till the heating issue is gone, and then you can play around with settings and see what you like)
My advice would be to just wait for a few days before doing anything drastic or trying to modify stock firmware. If not better by the end of the week, you can explore other options. The phone is just one day old. Just give the software some time to settle.
unfortunately thats just the way it is
am having the EXACT same issues and i had the phone since Feb so - not something that will go away unless Samsung fixes it
enigmaamit said:
It will do that for a few days. I had the same experience on the first 2-3 days. But the heating issue went away after that. It will still heat up occasionally (just like any other compluter) especially when you do anything involving the camera. All the new apps are comstantly writing info, building cache, etc - this should ease off once the initial intense activity has completed. Some heating is bound to happen when charging too.
The only things I would recommend changing for now are: If you don't use 5G or have poor coverage in your area, turn off 5G scanning from Connections setting. This seemed to help me with battery as well as heating. And FHD+ instead of WQHD+ resolution (at least till the heating issue is gone, and then you can play around with settings and see what you like)
My advice would be to just wait for a few days before doing anything drastic or trying to modify stock firmware. If not better by the end of the week, you can explore other options. The phone is just one day old. Just give the software some time to settle.
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That's comforting to hear. Let me monitor it for another week. Should I continue using the 33W charger? Is S21 ultra capable of handling it? Or should I just buy the Samsung 25W charger? Thanks for the reply dude.
tim2london said:
unfortunately thats just the way it is
am having the EXACT same issues and i had the phone since Feb so - not something that will go away unless Samsung fixes it
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I hope it gets better for you. For all of us.
maharoof said:
That's comforting to hear. Let me monitor it for another week. Should I continue using the 33W charger? Is S21 ultra capable of handling it? Or should I just buy the Samsung 25W charger? Thanks for the reply dude.
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I haven't used the Mi charger. Tried with an old warp charger from OnePlus just for kicks and it doesnt super-fast charge the S21U. But that's becasue the propreitary fast charging standards used by different manufacturers are often incompatible.
After some research, I've found that the S21 ultra will not draw any more than 25 Watts of power (even if you use the Samsung original 45W charger). And even that 25W will work with only with a PPS (Programmable Power Supply) charger (USB C to C PPS) - like the 25W Official Samsung charger. There are a few 3rd party maufacturers that make PPS chargers, but I haven't used any of them. I just went ahead and bought the Samsung one, as there was a good discount on it.
Any other charger you use will only work as a slow charger, or a fast charger (15W max) at best if it supports Qualcomm Quick Charge (QC3) standard. For 25W Super-fast charging (it's anything but super-fast, but that's what Samsung insists on calling it) you need a PPS charger, and I would recommend going with the original 25W Samsung charger.
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I haven't used the Mi charger. Tried with an old warp charger from OnePlus just for kicks and it doesnt super-fast charge the S21U. But that's becasue the propreitary fast charging standards used by different manufacturers are often incompatible.
After some research, I've found that the S21 ultra will not draw any more than 25 Watts of power (even if you use the Samsung original 45W charger). And even that 25W will work with only with a PPS (Programmable Power Supply) charger (USB C to C PPS) - like the 25W Official Samsung charger. There are a few 3rd party maufacturers that make PPS chargers, but I haven't used any of them. I just went ahead and bought the Samsung one, as there was a good discount on it.
Any other charger you use will only work as a slow charger, or a fast charger (15W max) at best if it supports Qualcomm Quick Charge (QC3) standard. For 25W Super-fast charging (it's anything but super-fast, but that's what Samsung insists on calling it) you need a PPS charger, and I would recommend going with the original 25W Samsung charger.
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I'll go with the Samsung 25W charger then. Thanks by the way
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I'll go with the Samsung 25W charger then. Thanks by the way
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You're most welcome.
You can be unfortunate with any SOC in terms of die quality. Some people are simply SOL and end up with crap silicon which results in bad thermals and, if you're rooted, a restricted ability in overclocking or undervolting.
What people can't do is have a crap experience with the thermals on their S21 Ultra (or any other device) and talk as if it applies to every other device of the same model, as in post #3. It doesn't work that way.
one thing i did yesterday (btw may update did not fix the heating issue) was to disable the 5g - keeping in mind i live in an area where there is excellent 5g coverage)
as soon as i turned 5g off - the heating was gone, the battery life increased and the phone felt smoother
now this was also an issue last year on s20 - seems this year is the same
something about the 5g that makes the phone get really hot
try it and see if that works
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one thing i did yesterday (btw may update did not fix the heating issue) was to disable the 5g - keeping in mind i live in an area where there is excellent 5g coverage)
as soon as i turned 5g off - the heating was gone, the battery life increased and the phone felt smoother
now this was also an issue last year on s20 - seems this year is the same
something about the 5g that makes the phone get really hot
try it and see if that works
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Heating problem while charging is fixed after I started using the original Samsung charger. But I'm still experiencing problems with video calls A 20 minute video call (through Microsoft Kaizala) increases the temperature to 45°C I'm not sure what's the problem. I have turned off 5G as well.
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I haven't used the Mi charger. Tried with an old warp charger from OnePlus just for kicks and it doesnt super-fast charge the S21U. But that's becasue the propreitary fast charging standards used by different manufacturers are often incompatible.
After some research, I've found that the S21 ultra will not draw any more than 25 Watts of power (even if you use the Samsung original 45W charger). And even that 25W will work with only with a PPS (Programmable Power Supply) charger (USB C to C PPS) - like the 25W Official Samsung charger. There are a few 3rd party maufacturers that make PPS chargers, but I haven't used any of them. I just went ahead and bought the Samsung one, as there was a good discount on it.
Any other charger you use will only work as a slow charger, or a fast charger (15W max) at best if it supports Qualcomm Quick Charge (QC3) standard. For 25W Super-fast charging (it's anything but super-fast, but that's what Samsung insists on calling it) you need a PPS charger, and I would recommend going with the original 25W Samsung charger.
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As I'm still experiencing problems with temperature going up in video calls, is there anyway to log the cpu usage and thermals? Maybe that would help in finding out the culprit. The battery life is not that great either. I can't figure out how much SOT I'm getting since the battery page still shows "Learning usage patterns".
i think the heat during video calls is another issue - that is triggered by the actual video processing - i think you will notice if you turn the camera on for shooting a video (not live video calls) you will notice instant heating - i think that is also what is causing this - both frontal and rear cameras have huge sensors and the phone must do a lot of work to compress the live videos + data connection/wifi used during the video
i dont know the culprit but is defo related to the same issue why when taking loads of photo or long vids the phone get super hot
i mean i turn off my video during a call and the heating goes down pretty fast
all in all - it seems the same issues that plagues s20 exynos are still present in the s21 exynos - so not sure what improvements they made cz honestly is as bad as last year!!!
Hey guys, i live in Kuwait and now temps are reaching 45-50°.
I don't expect the device to cool itself and i try as much to avoid using it outdoors or in my car (i have a ****ty AC)
Otherwise while at home and gaming it never exceed 40° ever.
If you dig deep into when you are using and where you will notice.
5g also drain and push temps up waaay to much.
Volte is also a factor.
Btw these are in all phones not only the s21u.
Don't be fooled guys and don't hate the ohone, it's a phone with soo many things and features running simultaneously, it has no fans and no cooling except for the paste lol.
That's my way of looking at it, i might be wrong.
Btw my sister's iPhone 12promax does the same and reach hot temps when used out and camera together.
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As I'm still experiencing problems with temperature going up in video calls, is there anyway to log the cpu usage and thermals? Maybe that would help in finding out the culprit. The battery life is not that great either. I can't figure out how much SOT I'm getting since the battery page still shows "Learning usage patterns".
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That learning usage patterns will take a few days before it starts showing data.
For thermal logging and control you can use the Samsung Labs module called Thermal Guardian. If labs app is not available in your country, download finelock from play store and get it from there. Search for appx video on thermal Guardian on YouTube for installation details
Guys 40+ something temps are nothing. Just put on a cover, relax, and enjoy the warm beast your phone is.
There is a direct relationship between the amount of power used by a processor and its clock frequency. The higher the performance, the higher the power consumption and heat generated.
Samsung is teaming up with AMD on an improved SoC which is reported to make it's debut on the S22. Hopefully this will eliminate the ongoing defencies with the Exynos SoC.
Redirect Notice
Not only have some of Samsung's major stock holders pressured Samsung to resolve the Exynos debacle, there's even an online petition with over 50,000 signatures requesting Samsung stop using the Exynos Chipsets in it's flagship devices.
Sign the Petition
Stop selling us inferior Exynos phones!
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The only other Non-Samsung Smartphone which uses the Exynos Chip is Vivo. All others besides Huawei and a couple of Chinese Brands use Snapdragon which is pretty good indicator for the lack of confidence in Exynos SoC's
This heath issue has to do with my S21 ultra's reboot thing? Once a day...I noticed that,if I install some app outside google playstore(such as vanced etc), my phone will reboot by yourself once a day....
I have no heating issues with my Exynos. Sd 888 has very bad heating issues in all the phones that use it. Stop with the "inferior Exynos" bs already.
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This heath issue has to do with my S21 ultra's reboot thing? Once a day...I noticed that,if I install some app outside google playstore(such as vanced etc), my phone will reboot by yourself once a day....
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Look in settings to see if your phone is set to reboot once a day. If it's not, then you have a hardware problem.

Question S21 ultra showing its age

120hz all time in screen and thats why i get only 4h sot with 15 % in my s21 ultra snapdragon switched to 60hz and i got 6h with 34% left
How is that showing it's age?
You mean the battery needs to be replaced?
Running them hard and hot degrades Li's a lot quicker...
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How is that showing it's age?
You mean the battery needs to be replaced?
Running them hard and hot degrades Li's a lot quicker...
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yep

General I got 12 Pro and still have the 11T Pro.

I recently got a new 12 Pro as I hoped Xiaomi fixed the screen and proximity issues from 11T Pro. The 11T Pro is a great phone, the issues I had was a lazy proximity screen sensor which just didn't operate as smooth as an iPhone or Galaxy. No other flaws. So I decided to go with a 12 Pro looking for that screen improvement and a better proximity sensor.
The 12 Pro is everything 11T Pro is, except it does have a better screen more pixels,better colours, resolution and fingerprint recognition that instantly wakes the screen as soon as you touch it!
But still I can get over it that the difference in these two phones is minimal. Genuinely 11T Pro is a monster phone with great components and even better price. If I knew what I was getting, I probably would have stuck with 11T Pro as, 12 Pro is certainly not worth buying of you are coming from 11Tp.
So far from my own tests and checks, 11T Pro tops 12 Pro in every aspect, speed, opening of apps, images and videos rendering which I find a bit disappointed that older phone performs better them a new flagship.
For your info I attached a few screenshot from Antutu Benchmark and Geekbench tests.
So you got what you wanted?
The chipsets are nearing their thermal limits; faster processors, 5G and variable refresh rate displays use more mAh and generate more heat as a byproduct. The area to dissipate this thermal load is largely fixed by the dimensions of the device means hotter running devices. Not a pretty picture when you consider the implications.
Worse accurate color calibration of variable refresh rate displays is imperfect, there are simple too many variables. If color calibration is off, the gamma correction gets skewed even more.
Xiaomi probably had room for improvement with their displays. Samsung's display performance in terms of color rendering accuracy zenithed with the Note 10+.
At least you got a better display.
Samsung's S22U can't offer me that or SOT that's better even with a larger 700 mAh battery. It is a buttery smooth better hand warmer though
Sometimes hardware upgrades aren't a good option...
I also have both phones and I completely agree with nothing you said.
NOSS8 said:
I also have both phones and I completely agree with nothing you said.
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How's your battery on 12 pro? I find mine really poor
Evo400 said:
How's your battery on 12 pro? I find mine really poor
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It depends on the usage and I'm using a Xiaomi EU rom.
blackhawk​explained the why and how very well.
Xiaomi Eu rom,same apps same usage.
Poco f2 pro Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 4700mHa +/- 38 hours/ AOSP +/- 48 hours
11 T pro Qualcomm Snapdragon 888 5000 mHa +/- 35 hours
12 pro Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen1 4600 mHa +/- 30 hours
Sony Xperia J(st26) Qualcomm Snapdragon S1 1750 mHa +/- 15 days
Thanks for that.
I'm also using latest Xiaomi. EU ROM on my 12.
11T pro is still on the global ROM
I find the 12 is really heavy on the battery for pretty much very same task and style of usage in comparison to 11T. The battery gets to 25% by mid day while this never occurred with 11T. ( That would be at least around 50%)
According to battery app what seems to drain the batteries on the 12 is the screen! Although I don't have display on,60hz only, etc .
Evo400 said:
Thanks for that.
I'm also using latest Xiaomi. EU ROM on my 12.
11T pro is still on the global ROM
I find the 12 is really heavy on the battery for pretty much very same task and style of usage in comparison to 11T. The battery gets to 25% by mid day while this never occurred with 11T. ( That would be at least around 50%)
According to battery app what seems to drain the batteries on the 12 is the screen! Although I don't have display on,60hz only, etc .
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it is possible that this will be fixed with the optimization updates of the Snapdragon 8 Gen1 .
Also the battery saver setting set to "close apps after 10 minutes works randomly".
I use a 30w charger.
NOSS8 said:
it is possible that this will be fixed with the optimization updates of the Snapdragon 8 Gen1 .
Also the battery saver setting set to "close apps after 10 minutes works randomly".
I use a 30w charger.
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There are reports here that the latest beta release from Samsung greatly improved the S22U's performance. Global power management tends to cause erratic behaviors of most devices especially bluetooth apps.

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