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Greetings.
I plan on getting this version, will it work normally in Serbia? Band20 isn't important to me. Also, is this phone part of the Android One program, and can you install Google Play Store easily as this video states?
youtu.be/ QsP4EkBrgRY
"This unit was imported from China, but Play Store can be installed through the provided App store."
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I am sorry for editing the link like this, it wouldn't allow me to post it otherwise..
@ivanbass1
For future reference, the model you are interested in is known as the following:
Nokia 7 Plus Dual SIM TD-LTE CN 6GB
I was looking to purchase this myself but if you get the 6GB Chinese variant, you're pretty much limited to 2G (GSM) connectivity.
Here's a URL outlining compatibility with all the countries around the world:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GleKj/nokia-7-plus-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-6gb/countries
Pretty dismal
ivanbass1 said:
Greetings.
I plan on getting this version, will it work normally in Serbia? Band20 isn't important to me. Also, is this phone part of the Android One program, and can you install Google Play Store easily as this video states?
youtu.be/ QsP4EkBrgRY
"This unit was imported from China, but Play Store can be installed through the provided App store."
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I am sorry for editing the link like this, it wouldn't allow me to post it otherwise..
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Of course it will work.
BTW, CN version has LTE Cat 7, 2CA, 300Mbps DL/100Mbps UL while Global version only gets LTE Cat 6.
In the future, once you get unlocked bootloader, you can flash any ROM you like, because Nokia 7 Plus supports Phh treble.
@SUN Huayan
I know you mean well but we can't flash ROMs at random. There has to be interest from a developer standpoint for this specific device.
Secondly Custom ROMs aren't going to unlock bands that the chipset can't support.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/brands/nokia
As far as I can see the European version supports exactly the same frequencies as the Chinese one.
Hello all,
I recently bought a p20 pro from China, and from my understanding, the firmware that comes with it is specific to China. This means that a lot of the features are still in Chinese, including the assistant, app store, and none of the google apps are installed (prob due to censorship). As I'm not too familiar with how to change that to the US or international firmware, any help would be appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
Hello! I'm also looking for similar information. It's really all over these forums. Search for "debranding" term.
See:
[Update: Launched in India] Vivo's flagship X70 series sports upgraded cameras, bigger batteries, and newer chips
Vivo today unveiled the new Vivo X70 series, featuring three new flagship devices. Read on to learn all about the new phones.
www.xda-developers.com
Vivo X70 Pro+ First Impressions: Flagship Cameras to watch out for
The Vivo X70 Pro+ is Vivo's latest flagship with one of the most versatile camera setups. Here are our initial impressions of the device.
www.xda-developers.com
how can I flash Funtouch OS on the China variant of Vivo X70 Pro Plus, please?
It's not possibile.
I can't seem to find video bokeh mode on my X70 PRO PLUS.But most of the video on YouTube showed it's possible. What am I missing ! Also my phone is running most recent version of OS.
@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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I have PD2145F_EX_A_3.11.8_vivo_qcom_LA.UM.9.14.r1-12600-LAHAINA-sm7325-sm8350_split.tar
But I can’t get my phone into EDL
I tried AFTOOL 5.3.50 and he said I need a newer version
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@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
Kotin89 said:
Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
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Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
Killuminati91 said:
Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
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Looks like same as yours !
Hey guys, has the Indian version Funtouch OS with support of Czech language? Is it possible to use that phone in EU without any limitations? Thank you for answers.
are there owners of the Indian version? Can you copy the dialer?
there is a free program
ADB AppControl - 4PDA
ADB AppControl, Управление приложениями через ADB на ПК c удобным интерфейсом
4pda.to
https://4pda.to/forum/dl/post/23911884/ADB_AppControl_171.zip
Je voudrais acheter le téléphone en version indienne. Sur quel site puis je le trouver ?
I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I buy my X70 Pro+ from Giztop eshop. No problems, the phone arrived in Ireland in about two weeks. No Custom payes. But I paid a lot, more than 900 €. Normally I always order from Tradingshenzen, but at that time they only had the most expensive version in stock. Today they are all available and 8 + 256 costs a great 827 €. With duty-free transport.
When unpacked from the box, it was already in the Google Play Store phone and the default English. Of course, there is bloatware (which mobile manufacturer doesn't?). Some Vivo applications are going to uninstall. The problem with Vivo apps is that they are 99% of the content is Chinese and I haven't found a way to change that. Actually, I'm not even interested, they just are there and I don't use them.
Origin OS settings are more difficult to understand. It took me a few days / hours to figure out how to allow various permissions and notifications for Google Play apps. The only problem still persists and that is that the phone does not notify me of received FB Messenger messages. In the settings, you can even click on the options "Default App Settings" and change Google applications to make calls for those from Vivo, etc. It's just still an Android OS. and the superstructure is inspired by MIUI and Oxygen OS for me. Google Assistant works when you press the microphone icon on the Google Taskbar, unfortunately it is written "currently unavailable on this device" for voice activation settings.
You don't need a Chinese phone number. You can create an account on the Vivo website via email and then log in to your phone with a password
@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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Yes, these languages are in the official China Version of Origin OS. Few European languages.
I didn't seen nobody who can confirm languages inside India Funtouch OS
PS: Its actually my first phone with china version OS. And first Vivo and other BBK Electronics phone brands.
X70 Pro+ I choose because these great rated cameras. Its great experience for me. I worked before only with only Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones
I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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As far as I know, Android Auto doesn't work in any Android 11 phone if it is not a system app. Will see what is changed with Android 12 which has again different approach (through Assistant).
And the battery life is good.
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
Thanks
DomZ said:
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
Thanks
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
JohnWick90 said:
Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
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You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
piskr said:
You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
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Damn andoid 13 will be introduced that time and vivo will release android 12? I didnt know vivo is the slowest in software updates
Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Do you have the Origin OS?
Because funtouch doesn't lock bootloader like OriginOS and origin is filled with Chinese bloatware it took my 3 days to uninstall it and I switched to nova launcher. 100% don't go for ORIGIN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD they won't even let me do adb debugging to remove their annoying crap
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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
hatryan said:
I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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This is exactly what I said my friend, we really don't have choice to complain
5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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Which device?
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Which device?
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x70 pro plus
[email protected] said:
x70 pro plus
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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A friend have the global fantouch version and i have the chinese version ocean origin os.
He have wind and cosmote and i have cosmote... nothing works on global and everething working on mine.
You have global and vodafone and you have 5G working? And most important you have VoLTE and WiFi Calling working too? If yes the problem then is here in Greece only.
Any news from A12 Update for the OriginOs Version?
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Any news from A12 Update for the OriginOs Version?
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Don't think chinese version will be updated. X50 Pro Plus is still on A10 after 2 years.
Android base updates are only for international model with FuntouchOS which is stock based.
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Don't think chinese version will be updated. X50 Pro Plus is still on A10 after 2 years.
Android base updates are only for international model with FuntouchOS which is stock based.
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It's too early to jump to conclusions. Vivo updates its phones accordingly. And it's unlikely for a Chinese company to upgrade international models and omitting the domestic ones.
More likely, Vivo had hands full of OriginOS and Ocean upgrade and therefore delayed Android upgrade. We'll see.
Besides, Android 12 is not a big deal, it's more or less graphical improvement. OriginOS Ocean has its own architecture and additional features, so it's nothing much to gain. Android 13 may have significant system upgrades.
And don't forget: Vivo X50 pro+ was scheduled for upgrade only for March 2022. It's still a few days delay.
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It's too early to jump to conclusions. Vivo updates its phones accordingly. And it's unlikely for a Chinese company to upgrade international models and omitting the domestic ones.
More likely, Vivo had hands full of OriginOS and Ocean upgrade and therefore delayed Android upgrade. We'll see.
Besides, Android 12 is not a big deal, it's more or less graphical improvement. OriginOS Ocean has its own architecture and additional features, so it's nothing much to gain. Android 13 may have significant system upgrades.
And don't forget: Vivo X50 pro+ was scheduled for upgrade only for March 2022. It's still a few days delay.
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Vivo X50 pro + is already updated on Ocean OS but base android is still 10.
It's a matter of fact: X50 Pro is still on A10, X51 (european version of X50 Pro) is on A12; that's is understandable as FuntouchOS is really stock, while OriginOs/OceanOs not.
beta a12 origin os ocean is allready out... so... the stable final will be available soon. be patient...
Beta is on Android 11. Don't think it will ever upgraded to A12