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lots of developers received HMS updates on Chinese version devices for test,
we don't even get the internal test, how & when can we upgrade HMS?
anyone have new?
Accordint to them, NOH-NX9 is not MAte 40 Pro and hence not included in the list.
In addition to the issue unable to install GMS (only choice is ourplay), so I really want to use the word "total failure" for Huawei phones international version outside China.
to global its coming in december. Official annaucement today
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to global its coming in december. Official annaucement today
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Link?
I see this video has instructions for chinese devices only ):
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I see this video has instructions for chinese devices only ):
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oh idk anymore haha, i sold my huawei
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lots of developers received HMS updates on Chinese version devices for test,
we don't even get the internal test, how & when can we upgrade HMS?
anyone have new?
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When will HarmonyOS rollout for my global Huawei phone [Tracker]
On June 2, 2021, Huawei launched its new mobile operating system – HarmonyOS 2 (HM OS 2, Hongmeng OS 2). Following the announcement, Huawei began Harmony 2 testing on Huawei devices in China and also announced a major rollout roadmap for over 100 Huawei devices. HarmonyOS 2: HarmonyOS 2 is a new...
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It comes in december. But I'm afraid the GMS install ability depends on firmware region not OS. I hope i'm wrong.
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When will HarmonyOS rollout for my global Huawei phone [Tracker]
On June 2, 2021, Huawei launched its new mobile operating system – HarmonyOS 2 (HM OS 2, Hongmeng OS 2). Following the announcement, Huawei began Harmony 2 testing on Huawei devices in China and also announced a major rollout roadmap for over 100 Huawei devices. HarmonyOS 2: HarmonyOS 2 is a new...
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It comes in december. But I'm afraid the GMS install ability depends on firmware region not OS. I hope i'm wrong.
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Well, december came and went
This article says it is coming this year instead, but does anyone have an official statement from Huawei?
Finally, Huawei reveals HarmonyOS will launch globally next year - 10% faster than Android
Finally, Huawei reveals HarmonyOS will launch globally next year - 10% faster than Android. There is no specific launch date as of now
www.gizchina.com
Now Harmony OS 3.0 is out for the Mate 40 Pro…but we don't even get the 2.0 update on the international version!
Community thread: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/HarmonyOS-for-Mate-40-Pro-NOH-NX9/topicId_170506/
Facebook thread: https://facebook.com/groups/HarmonyOSofficial/permalink/1043967353194808/
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
Thanks
DomZ said:
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
JohnWick90 said:
Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
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You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
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You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
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Damn andoid 13 will be introduced that time and vivo will release android 12? I didnt know vivo is the slowest in software updates
Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Do you have the Origin OS?
Because funtouch doesn't lock bootloader like OriginOS and origin is filled with Chinese bloatware it took my 3 days to uninstall it and I switched to nova launcher. 100% don't go for ORIGIN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD they won't even let me do adb debugging to remove their annoying crap
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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
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I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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This is exactly what I said my friend, we really don't have choice to complain
5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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Which device?
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Which device?
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x70 pro plus
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x70 pro plus
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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A friend have the global fantouch version and i have the chinese version ocean origin os.
He have wind and cosmote and i have cosmote... nothing works on global and everething working on mine.
You have global and vodafone and you have 5G working? And most important you have VoLTE and WiFi Calling working too? If yes the problem then is here in Greece only.
Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...
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i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !
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i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !
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I was pissed when I saw that they started with their cheap models and premium model that 11 Ultra is still waiting for.
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Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...
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My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.
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My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.
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I personally am a big fan of Huawei but due to lack of support for Google. I chose to try Xiaomi and bought a top model that was almost impossible to buy now. Miui for my part seems very immature software. Xiaomi should invest in the software department and rather hire Huawei's unemployed developers. Have you seen that in how short a time Huawei has built a new OS and app store.
Most models received a January update but my "Mi 11 Ultra" is still not on the list and runs "Android security update" from November 2021.
I am running MIUI 13 from 5th Jan 2022, 11U is one of the first mi phone that have miui 13, but in CN market
I know how u feel, but let first think about why. 11U is almost no sale at global market, not like 11 (standard one). So we can tell like 11U is for CN market, so they will bring 1st update to CN market. Other model got alot of sales in global market (like 11) will get update for global market fast like in your picture u posted
AFAIK (but I might be wrong) no public official MIUI 13 with Android 12 versions have been released so far for the MI11x global models.
Only beta versions or versions reserved to the so called "MI Pilot".
I follow you 100% but why you dont try the stable eu rom then?
Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid
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Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid
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Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program
Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.
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Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.
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That EU is CN rom, btw
And i totally agree with your 2nd line. All i need is a solid stable phone
Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.
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Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today.
Unfortunately I do not have the time and opportunity to install it tonight, but I will do it tomorrow.
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program
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Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today. View attachment 5549155
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As I posted before, first it is stable beta for mi pilot user. May be it roll out for everybody now. Sound good for our phone.
Yesterday I received the notification of the available OTA update to official MIUI 13 Android 12 (EEA Rom, Italy)
Not updating yet, waiting for more info about the new MIUI 13...
Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya
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Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya
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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.
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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.
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not really surprising, since originos is something new they started not so long ago, and are still developing it. They first want it to be stable with the android 11 they started it with, before adding bugs from trying to make it compatible with a new android version
Also OP wrote this post like 4 weeks ago, just saying
Now the latest version is PD2145C_A_5.13.41))
Bye, bye Android 12 and further major updates, another feedback from Vivo Global Support
“OriginOS Ocean is a smartphone operating system that is deeply optimized, customized, and developed based on the Android system. It has independent supporting functions and performance optimization mechanisms, such as: system interface, built-in functions and applications, and interaction methods are all in-depth optimization functions. The functions and interfaces of the native systems are quite different. Due to the different hardware capabilities and configurations of each model, some models will continue to use the original Android version based on comprehensive consideration of operating stability, fluency, and compatibility after each model is upgraded to OriginOS Ocean. No matter what Android version your phone is based on, you can experience the new changes brought by OriginOS Ocean, so please continue to use it with confidence.“
Who the heck needs Android 12 if you have OriginOS Ocean?
Don‘t get me wrong, I am happy with my Vivo X70 Pro+ but why Vivo is promising (three) Android Major Updates for the X70 series but don‘t deliver? Android 13 is coming soon, this is so disappointing for a flagship device.
Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.
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Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.
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I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.
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I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.
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But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.
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But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.
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No, the differences are subtle concerning the UX. There are some more detailed settings, nothing really important. But the phone is more energy efficient with Android 12, better battery life and less standby consumption overnight.
But that‘s not the point. If you pay around € 900 for a phone and everybody around you got Android 12 updates for there much cheaper devices you are not satisfied. Especially if the vendor promises contemporary Android Major updates (three for the X70 series).
Let‘s finish this discussion: Vivo X70 Pro+ is a great device (with Android 11). But the update Service for this device doesn‘t satisfy MY expectations.
Does anyone know how many android OS updates Vivo has promised for the x90 pro plus.
None are promised. 1-2 based on history of the China OS phones. E.g x70 pro+ the direct successor only got a single one so far from Android 11 to 13. It never got 12 and security updates arrived late. No monthly updates on security updates but rather 2-3 monthly in it's first 18 months. The funtouch OS x70 pro+ on the other hand received Android 12 and 13 as well as more timely updates.
I think no China OS vivo ever received more than 2 major upgrades and that's when they didn't skip one.
Security Updates run for 2.5 years or so.
Basically Vivo considers your phone to be junk after that time and expects you to upgrade. Resale value after 2 years therefore next to nothing....
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None are promised. 1-2 based on history of the China OS phones. E.g x70 pro+ the direct successor only got a single one so far from Android 11 to 13. It never got 12 and security updates arrived late. No monthly updates on security updates but rather 2-3 monthly in it's first 18 months. The funtouch OS x70 pro+ on the other hand received Android 12 and 13 as well as more timely updates.
I think no China OS vivo ever received more than 2 major upgrades and that's when they didn't skip one.
Security Updates run for 2.5 years or so.
Basically Vivo considers your phone to be junk after that time and expects you to upgrade. Resale value after 2 years therefore next to nothing....
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Hmmm I saw on a website that x90 and x90 pro will get three major os upgrades so maybe the pro plus will get three as well? I think I can live with 2 major upgrades as my Xiaomi Mi 9 from android 9 had its final upgrade to android 11. Even though I can blu and root the device for custom ROMs I've never liked the look of AOSP based ROMs so haven't bothered.
It's either the x90 pro plus or the vivo X fold plus for me. The ppi of X fold plus is only 360 ppi on an 8inch seems quite low and I'm not sure how images and icons will look on it compared to ~517ppi of the x90 pro plus.
The promise is only for funtouch OS, and while the x70 pro plus with funtouch OS got android 12 and 13, origin OS only got 13 and never 12....
With the x70pro+ the real precessor of the x90pro+ I would not hold much hope. Especially seeing it will enter March on December security update which for a new flagship is simply intolerable. Xiaomi and BBK seem to outdo each other in who can provide slower updates, but BBK clearly wins on the we can provide less major upgrades than any other major producer...
And no no bootloader unlock/root for x90 series! So no way for AOSP.
Probably about 2 years worth of steady updates and maybe one last year of small patches.
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Probably about 2 years worth of steady updates and maybe one last year of small patches.
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Steady yes, but as shown so far that doesn't mean including security updates, nor major Android versions. It could well happen to x90pro+ origin OS 4 comes out on Android 13 instead of Android 14...
Like Huawei on some phones where they pushed updates updating next to nothing, even claiming to include security patches, and not including them (without root hard to asses, but in retroperspect you can notice it. E g huawei p30pro last 18 months only every second update actually included the claimed security patches - BBK and Xiaomi aren't good at fully integrating them either. Only google/Samsung are reliable there. However so far only Huawei outright didn't include anything of a claimed security patch).
my ex VIvo x70 pro plus received 3 Origin OS versions (1.0 - 2.0 - 3.0)
The X90 PP came out with OriginOS 3.0 (I think at least 2-3 major updates will be available)
But Origin OS 2.0 on the X70 Pro+ was based on Android 11 not 12!
Will it receive O OS 4.0? maybe, maybe not. Maybe based on Android 13...
I much rather keep the old rotten oranges OS but get a new Android version than the other way round.
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But Origin OS 2.0 on the X70 Pro+ was based on Android 11 not 12!
Will it receive O OS 4.0? maybe, maybe not. Maybe based on Android 13...
I much rather keep the old rotten oranges OS but get a new Android version than the other way round.
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I don't care much about the android version that mounts a specific interface
(Just look at huawei with its EMUI 13 which has only recently arrived with Android13)
Who wants the latest android that takes a Galaxy or Pixel, certainly not Vivo
The question in this thread here was however how many Android versions will it get.
And yeah - Huawei is a perfect example - I didn't see any improvements but just degradation for myself in EMUI updates - while missing all the goodies of new functionality offered by Android OS updates.
At least Vivo allows removing the stupid dual drop down status menu./quicksettings. Hated that on EMUI like the pest. I run Nova launcher - and the less I have to interfere with EMUI or rotten oranges the better!
Everyone here has different opinions on what is important.
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The question in this thread here was however how many Android versions will it get.
And yeah - Huawei is a perfect example - I didn't see any improvements but just degradation for myself in EMUI updates - while missing all the goodies of new functionality offered by Android OS updates.
At least Vivo allows removing the stupid dual drop down status menu./quicksettings. Hated that on EMUI like the pest. I run Nova launcher - and the less I have to interfere with EMUI or rotten oranges the better!
Everyone here has different opinions on what is important.
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To clarify that the latest "android version" doesn't mean it's better ... At least for me
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To clarify that the latest "android version" doesn't mean it's better ... At least for me
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There is one huge advantage of the latest android version - while most (especially Chinese and Indian) phone producers have been found to cheat on security updates and not include all of them - a major android version means you can be 100% assured that all old patches are included. Of course producers adapting the OS can create new holes apart from the AOSP source - but at least you know that those are fixed.
Man I've been researching for a month now the vivo X fold plus or the x90 pro plus as my next phone. Now I'm not so sure which one to buy. I would prefer the actual os upgrade with new features instead of origin os version upgrades without new features or missing security patches. It's all confusing.
Well when it comes to updates don't get a BBK phone. Even Xiaomi is slightly better and they really rally for who can be worse...
Asus and Motorola aren't great but a bit better.
Honor seems to be best on flagships for a Chinese company and their pricing isn't China halt price of the rest of the world but pretty similar...
Just to note, the x70 pro plus origin OS, which was just released last week manages to be on November security patch... Maybe they think half yearly is fine? I mean the phone is already 1.5 years old. Why would you want current updates on such an old phone? It's time to throw it away and get a new much better one....
Vivo promised 3 years of OS updates in china according to baidu.
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Vivo promised 3 years of OS updates in china according to baidu.
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baidu is a search engine mainly, please provide your source. And OS fo Vivo means rotten Oranges not Android...
My nearly 4 year old P30Pro today got Android February security patches (after previously being on December patch) - X90Pro+ nothing to be seen...
I guess it will go straight to March Update. So right now the X90Pro+ seems on a 3 months update cycle - and that right after release....
Guess next year it will move to 6 months?
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Just to note, the x70 pro plus origin OS, which was just released last week manages to be on November security patch... Maybe they think half yearly is fine? I mean the phone is already 1.5 years old. Why would you want current updates on such an old phone? It's time to throw it away and get a new much better one....
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The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
bmw320cd said:
The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
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Ah I guess this shortly is vivo speak for nothing happening in 17 days .. (and then the staged rollout using trial updates will take at least 7 days more for stable updates once it's ever published...
X90PP still having received a single security update since it was released (December patch end of December) likely that one was considered important as by that time many reviews written.
Stating something as a fact that doesn't happen...
Seems we have to be lucky if that crappy software with a 9.8 rated actively exploited bug is updated every three months. Sales of x90pro+ must have been dismal vs the expectations after the huge marketing campaign so now just treat it like a budget phone update wise...
Btw the march security patches by google include a fix for a zero day exploit which is actively exploited (full phone can be taken over, bug in the Samsung modem) and it's enough to know the telephone number of the user... Several vivo phones affected, amongst them x30,x50,x60 series... No patch yet for them.. Samsung and google published the updates for affected phones already, vivo hasn't. But yeah who cares, it's just a 9.8 /10 critical bug, right?
There was a 9.7 level bug in the February update that applies to the x90pp. It's very likely it's actively exploited too otherwise it would not get such a high score... This no update policy is simply a security nightmare by vivo.
Can only hope that google announces to remove certification for phones with slow updates else vivo likely won't improve...
BTW - the X90 Pro global version has already the March patches. It would be super unlikely if the X90pro+ ever receives an earlier patch level...
And I call it bull**** that it's difficult to implement a security patch (as long as it doesn't "fix" some bugs that you deliberately opened e.g. for spyware. The X90 Pro+ has March security updates and it was compiled on 1. March. Meaning within hours of the patch files being available Vivo had alredy compiled the finished version.
That's why Custom Android versions also always had the newest patches very quickly.
X90Pro+ is 3 months behind on security updates vs X90Pro and most other phones. it's pretty incredible. BBKs most expensive flagship phone and simply no updates...
bmw320cd said:
The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
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Any idea when? Waiting for those patches so Google Wallet works.