Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...
@Agent 47
i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !
lbmh said:
@Agent 47
i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !
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I was pissed when I saw that they started with their cheap models and premium model that 11 Ultra is still waiting for.
Agent 47 said:
Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...
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My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.
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My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.
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I personally am a big fan of Huawei but due to lack of support for Google. I chose to try Xiaomi and bought a top model that was almost impossible to buy now. Miui for my part seems very immature software. Xiaomi should invest in the software department and rather hire Huawei's unemployed developers. Have you seen that in how short a time Huawei has built a new OS and app store.
Most models received a January update but my "Mi 11 Ultra" is still not on the list and runs "Android security update" from November 2021.
I am running MIUI 13 from 5th Jan 2022, 11U is one of the first mi phone that have miui 13, but in CN market
I know how u feel, but let first think about why. 11U is almost no sale at global market, not like 11 (standard one). So we can tell like 11U is for CN market, so they will bring 1st update to CN market. Other model got alot of sales in global market (like 11) will get update for global market fast like in your picture u posted
AFAIK (but I might be wrong) no public official MIUI 13 with Android 12 versions have been released so far for the MI11x global models.
Only beta versions or versions reserved to the so called "MI Pilot".
I follow you 100% but why you dont try the stable eu rom then?
Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid
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Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid
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Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program
Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.
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Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.
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That EU is CN rom, btw
And i totally agree with your 2nd line. All i need is a solid stable phone
Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.
droidDHD said:
Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today.
Unfortunately I do not have the time and opportunity to install it tonight, but I will do it tomorrow.
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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hungragezone said:
Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program
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Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today. View attachment 5549155
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As I posted before, first it is stable beta for mi pilot user. May be it roll out for everybody now. Sound good for our phone.
Yesterday I received the notification of the available OTA update to official MIUI 13 Android 12 (EEA Rom, Italy)
Not updating yet, waiting for more info about the new MIUI 13...
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Hello guys!
This phone is actually pretty good since it have all the components that are good (audiojack, NFC, USB C etc), but i'm afraid that this phone won't get many custom roms since it didn't "hype" the market...
Do you guys think that this phone will ever get good custom roms such as Pixel experience and LineAgeOS??
maybe someday. best custom miui at the moment mi room Added support for cc9. A new release will appear on Monday. 9.10.16
https://portal.mi-room.ru/roms/
can we use gsi roms?
I am worried too. It's not exactly a marketing success, though overall it's probably the most balanced phone xiaomi has. They really should have made this what the 9SE is. It really has great specs except maybe the CPU (saved 712 for SE), for the right price. I wish there will be GCam support and pixel experience, to make it as good as it can be.
Mi cc9 is A only or AB device?
Does anyone try Gsi ROMs
Radzią said:
maybe someday. best custom miui at the moment mi room Added support for cc9. A new release will appear on Monday. 9.10.16
https://portal.mi-room.ru/roms/
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It's better than eu ROM? By what?
I think that since Mi 9 Lite just get to the outside-china market, the "hype" will come soon. Here (in Poland) all official mi-stores and reseller are already out of stock and waiting for deliveries, unofficial resellers are importing from other countries on daily basis, so the market demand is pretty high. It is too latest phone to talk about its popularity.
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Mi cc9 is A only or AB device?
Does anyone try Gsi ROMs
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only has slot A
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only has slot A
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Yes this device is (A) but because it's a system on root, you have to use a/b.
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Yes this device is (A) but because it's a system on root, you have to use a/b.
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did you tried a/b ROM? does it works?
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I think that since Mi 9 Lite just get to the outside-china market, the "hype" will come soon. Here (in Poland) all official mi-stores and reseller are already out of stock and waiting for deliveries, unofficial resellers are importing from other countries on daily basis, so the market demand is pretty high. It is too latest phone to talk about its popularity.
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that's good to know. i wonder why it's popular since the last I checked it's significantly more expensive than the chinese market version, making it somewhat less competitive even against mi's own product line. anyway, I can't wait for some european experts to tackle this phone's hardware. GCam for one is so desperately needed, as I am now getting better camera photos using gcam on redmi note 7 than on the cc9's stock. Imagine the possibilities if cc9's potentials are unlocked.
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that's good to know. i wonder why it's popular since the last I checked it's significantly more expensive than the chinese market version, making it somewhat less competitive even against mi's own product line. anyway, I can't wait for some european experts to tackle this phone's hardware. GCam for one is so desperately needed, as I am now getting better camera photos using gcam on redmi note 7 than on the cc9's stock. Imagine the possibilities if cc9's potentials are unlocked.
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Well, different "GSM Tech" sites shows that Mi 9 Lite is actually a few bucks cheaper than CC9. But for example in Poland, CC9 is not popular at all, even on unofficial sellers. I think that Mi 9 Lite will fill that gap.
About the differences, they are basically the same hardware, except some additional GSM/3G/LTE frequencies used in europe in MI 9 Lite (eg. LTE B20).
Can't really blame the lack of updates on Luna New Year, Corona or 10 series release because Mi 9T Pro has received 2 updates since December, what's going on? Not even a scrap of news or rumor of a update anytime soon.
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Can't really blame the lack of updates on Luna New Year, Corona or 10 series release because Mi 9T Pro has received 2 updates since December, what's going on? Not even a scrap of news or rumor of a update anytime soon.
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Yeah I posted the same thing a few days back, no logical reason when other variants are getting updates, I'm in the same boat, stuck on November security patch
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Yeah I posted the same thing a few days back, no logical reason when other variants are getting updates, I'm in the same boat, stuck on November security patch
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You'd think China rom would get updates more frequently given Xiaomi is a Chinese company but no, eea, global even Indian version Raphaelin k20 pro is getting updates but not us. It's disappointing, China rom imo is the best after debloating and if you ignore that space after apostrophe when using English and lack of security updates.
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You'd think China rom would get updates more frequently given Xiaomi is a Chinese company but no, eea, global even Indian version Raphaelin k20 pro is getting updates but not us. It's disappointing, China rom imo is the best after debloating and if you ignore that space after apostrophe when using English and lack of security updates.
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I've had this phone since August and have gotten past some of the quirks of the Chinese rom. Yup just doesn't make sense at all really, try to talk to xiaomi support is like talking to a brickwall aswell
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I've had this phone since August and have gotten past some of the quirks of the Chinese rom. Yup just doesn't make sense at all really, try to talk to xiaomi support is like talking to a brickwall aswell
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Hey mate just wanna let you know if u don't know already that about 2 days ago they released 11.0.7 China stable, no news, nothing in all the telegram channels I'm in, nothing in updater app only found out by browsing through eu.miui sourceforge. Don't know the changelog but downloading now, finally we get a update.
E: What's New
Optimization: system stability
Optimization: reduce system lag
February security patch
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM/miui_RAPHAEL_V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM_4a6b851d43_10.0.zip
The phone is end of life. This is new Xiaomi politics... After 9 years with Xiaomi phones this is last for me.
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Hey mate just wanna let you know if u don't know already that about 2 days ago they released 11.0.7 China stable, no news, nothing in all the telegram channels I'm in, nothing in updater app only found out by browsing through eu.miui sourceforge. Don't know the changelog but downloading now, finally we get a update.
E: What's New
Optimization: system stability
Optimization: reduce system lag
February security patch
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM/miui_RAPHAEL_V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM_4a6b851d43_10.0.zip
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I just got the update today earlier, thanks for the Eads up though
I had got an update yesterday,but now its gone
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The phone is end of life. This is new Xiaomi politics... After 9 years with Xiaomi phones this is last for me.
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No it's not EOL, Xiaomi are still releasing regular beta Chinese ROMs for this phone. Unfortunately this is the same with almost all manufacturers, once the initial round of serious bugs have been fixed, stable branch updates come at a glacial pace. Even though Google have recently tried to tie in manufacturers to guaranteed updates for x years, in order to get Google certification, we still do not see this happening from most manufacturers beyond the first 6 -12 months. This is why I first started, with the original Samsung Galaxy S, and continue to use, custom ROMs.
Can someone tell me the update policy of realme x2 pro....Like for how many years will it receive updates?
Any x2 pro users out here, could you also share your experience?
How can we know that dude?
The standard is 2 years, but who knows.
Android 11 with realme ui 2.0 is coming in december official post bi realme, also i heard android 12 will also be supported next year
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Android 11 with realme ui 2.0 is coming in december official post bi realme, also i heard android 12 will also be supported next year
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Where did the say that? Did they say December for global (all) devices or just in China?
And Android 12 for x2 pro? Somehow I doubt it, but it would be awesome.
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Where did the say that? Did they say December for global (all) devices or just in China?
And Android 12 for x2 pro? Somehow I doubt it, but it would be awesome.
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Here you go
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Here you go
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Early access, India only
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Agreed
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
definitely.
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.
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Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.
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They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.
I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?
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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you
Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.
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Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?
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No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.
Bruh RN10 got MIUI 14 update in February and here I guess it's gonna take another year for MIUI 14 to finally arrive. I'm still not over the loss of dropping my one plus 9 pro and this crap Xiaomi thing is literally garbage. They haven't even released the source code for this device in one whole year which I think is very little time just for handing over the source code.
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Bruh RN10 got MIUI 14 update in February and here I guess it's gonna take another year for MIUI 14 to finally arrive. I'm still not over the loss of dropping my one plus 9 pro and this crap Xiaomi thing is literally garbage. They haven't even released the source code for this device in one whole year which I think is very little time just for handing over the source code.
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At least there are crDroid 9.x and a closed Lineage20 plus an active one https://sourceforge.net/projects/lineageos-spes/, all A13. No EliteROM yet for spes, but keep eyeballs out.
MIUI 14 has severe battery drain issues, we're better off without it...
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MIUI 14 has severe battery drain issues, we're better off without it...
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I would not get too excited over using MIUI. In terms of ROM capability, it really is the lower echelon, and I am not even talking about any Pixel-like ROMs. The EliteROMs do MIUI right and slice out as much garbage as possible while adding in as much as they can, and I like them. We just need to wait for it to drop for this device.
Miui 13 will be released to spes in Q3 2023 and that is unjustice for spes and mojito because mojito is older and spes is newer