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Any news on K20 Pro China updates? Been 3 months, still on Nov security patch

Can't really blame the lack of updates on Luna New Year, Corona or 10 series release because Mi 9T Pro has received 2 updates since December, what's going on? Not even a scrap of news or rumor of a update anytime soon.

hoopsnake said:
Can't really blame the lack of updates on Luna New Year, Corona or 10 series release because Mi 9T Pro has received 2 updates since December, what's going on? Not even a scrap of news or rumor of a update anytime soon.
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Yeah I posted the same thing a few days back, no logical reason when other variants are getting updates, I'm in the same boat, stuck on November security patch

sofir786 said:
Yeah I posted the same thing a few days back, no logical reason when other variants are getting updates, I'm in the same boat, stuck on November security patch
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You'd think China rom would get updates more frequently given Xiaomi is a Chinese company but no, eea, global even Indian version Raphaelin k20 pro is getting updates but not us. It's disappointing, China rom imo is the best after debloating and if you ignore that space after apostrophe when using English and lack of security updates.

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You'd think China rom would get updates more frequently given Xiaomi is a Chinese company but no, eea, global even Indian version Raphaelin k20 pro is getting updates but not us. It's disappointing, China rom imo is the best after debloating and if you ignore that space after apostrophe when using English and lack of security updates.
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I've had this phone since August and have gotten past some of the quirks of the Chinese rom. Yup just doesn't make sense at all really, try to talk to xiaomi support is like talking to a brickwall aswell

sofir786 said:
I've had this phone since August and have gotten past some of the quirks of the Chinese rom. Yup just doesn't make sense at all really, try to talk to xiaomi support is like talking to a brickwall aswell
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Hey mate just wanna let you know if u don't know already that about 2 days ago they released 11.0.7 China stable, no news, nothing in all the telegram channels I'm in, nothing in updater app only found out by browsing through eu.miui sourceforge. Don't know the changelog but downloading now, finally we get a update.
E: What's New
Optimization: system stability
Optimization: reduce system lag
February security patch
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM/miui_RAPHAEL_V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM_4a6b851d43_10.0.zip

The phone is end of life. This is new Xiaomi politics... After 9 years with Xiaomi phones this is last for me.

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Hey mate just wanna let you know if u don't know already that about 2 days ago they released 11.0.7 China stable, no news, nothing in all the telegram channels I'm in, nothing in updater app only found out by browsing through eu.miui sourceforge. Don't know the changelog but downloading now, finally we get a update.
E: What's New
Optimization: system stability
Optimization: reduce system lag
February security patch
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM/miui_RAPHAEL_V11.0.7.0.QFKCNXM_4a6b851d43_10.0.zip
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I just got the update today earlier, thanks for the Eads up though

I had got an update yesterday,but now its gone

vipkokata said:
The phone is end of life. This is new Xiaomi politics... After 9 years with Xiaomi phones this is last for me.
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No it's not EOL, Xiaomi are still releasing regular beta Chinese ROMs for this phone. Unfortunately this is the same with almost all manufacturers, once the initial round of serious bugs have been fixed, stable branch updates come at a glacial pace. Even though Google have recently tried to tie in manufacturers to guaranteed updates for x years, in order to get Google certification, we still do not see this happening from most manufacturers beyond the first 6 -12 months. This is why I first started, with the original Samsung Galaxy S, and continue to use, custom ROMs.

Harmony OS upgrade for P20 Pro in 2022 H1

promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html

I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device

I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device

This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi

Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.

You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:

bluetooth-bug said:
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone

I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)

andrei80 said:
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.

Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494

There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...

andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.

EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
consumer.huawei.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t

Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.

Can you record phone calls with this OS?

this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading

In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though

not much changed, mostly control center in the shade

solnyshok said:
not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change

Question What's the future update schedule?

Bought this on Android 11 in Early 2021.
Currently on Android 12.
What version of Android will we be going up to?
Where does Samsung post the future/intended updates schedule?
Is it going to be Android 14 as the last version?
Android 12 - Late 2021
Android 13 - Late 2022
Android 14 - Late 2023 --> Last update?

Samsung promised 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates. Usually, as time passes and device becomes older, it slips down in priority for os updates. So while we got the A12 update (half cooked or not) at the top of Samsung's list, older phones eligible for the same are going to recieve it a little later, depending on how old they are. So A13 may come in early 2023 instead of Dec 2022 (when the S22U starts getting it) and A14 may come a little later in 2024. By that time the S23U will be in front of the line for A14.
I must admit that Samsung has really stepped up its game when it comes to pushing updates (I'm talking quantity here, quality is another matter) to its devices, both new and old. And they may actually improve the update situation for older devices if things go really well. Only time will tell.
But im fairly sure we'll get timely security updates till the end of 2024.

enigmaamit said:
Samsung promised 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates. Usually, as time passes and device becomes older, it slips down in priority for os updates. So while we got the A12 update (half cooked or not) at the top of Samsung's list, older phones eligible for the same are going to recieve it a little later, depending on how old they are. So A13 may come in early 2023 instead of Dec 2022 (when the S22U starts getting it) and A14 may come a little later in 2024. By that time the S23U will be in front of the line for A14.
I must admit that Samsung has really stepped up its game when it comes to pushing updates (I'm talking quantity here, quality is another matter) to its devices, both new and old. And they may actually improve the update situation for older devices if things go really well. Only time will tell.
But im fairly sure we'll get timely security updates till the end of 2024.
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Meanwhile, the iPhone 6S and 6S Plus arrived in September 2015 running iOS 9.
It is currently on iOS 15.3!
That's 7 years!
IMO, this phone deserves to go up to Android 15! But, alas, 'tis only scheduled for going up to 14!

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Meanwhile, the iPhone 6S and 6S Plus arrived in September 2015 running iOS 9.
It is currently on iOS 15.3!
That's 7 years!
IMO, this phone deserves to go up to Android 15! But, alas, 'tis only scheduled for going up to 14!
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I tend to agree that this would be very nice.
My feeling is that this is due to the pretty closed Apple ecosystem. They have everything in their own hand (hardware and software), thus its much easier for them to maintain compatability between both for longer time.
For Android the OS is evolving separately and is then spread out to all the hardware platforms out there - this is much more prone to create incompatabilities over time. Thus the shorter period of maintenance here.....

s3axel said:
I tend to agree that this would be very nice.
My feeling is that this is due to the pretty closed Apple ecosystem. They have everything in their own hand (hardware and software), thus its much easier for them to maintain compatability between both for longer time.
For Android the OS is evolving separately and is then spread out to all the hardware platforms out there - this is much more prone to create incompatabilities over time. Thus the shorter period of maintenance here.....
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They better lower their prices significantly then AND give 5 years of updates.
At this rate. the iPhone 10 will be supported beyond 2027, despite being released in 2017.

nixnixnixnix4 said:
They better lower their prices significantly then AND give 5 years of updates.
At this rate. the iPhone 10 will be supported beyond 2027, despite being released in 2017.
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True enough !
I think in the end this topic may be one of the key differentiators between Android and IOS and, depending on preferences, may trigger a buying decision. This may also in the end push Android phone makers to move towards longer maintenance cycles..... On top of that I personally think its heavily advisable from an ecological standpoint !

nixnixnixnix4 said:
They better lower their prices significantly then AND give 5 years of updates.
At this rate. the iPhone 10 will be supported beyond 2027, despite being released in 2017.
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With all the talk of increasing phone prices and plateauing phone performance, iPhones seem to have a lower cost of ownership per year if you look at the duration for which they are officially supported, despite the high initial cost. 'Technically' the only thing that degrades over time is the battery, which can be replaced fairly easily - even multiple times. But reality is sometimes different. I had an iPhone 6S until a year ago. New battery, 100% health. But it wasn't as good as it was on older iOS versions. Every update added a few features but somehow killed it a little bit. Just enough to keep it functional, but a little more limpy than before.
Getting new updates for years is amazing, but whether the OS updates add to the phone ownership experience or subtract from it is the thing to see here. If new OS updates slow down the phone or degrade battery life, isn't it better to stay on the OS version that is best optimised for that particular device during its peak years? And just get security patches, without messing around with OS version?
Updates nowadays seem to be a coin toss for most major version upgrades, both on iOS as well as Android. And usually the older phones suffer most. Sometimes a new major OS update almost cripples a phone. My OnePlus 6 worked so well on A10, till A11 borked it! Fortunately i was able to revert back. Apple doesn't even allow downgrading the OS after a short period (signing). Same with Android rollback prevention. Sometimes you're stuck with a bad 'upgrade' with no way to end the nightmare, except get a new device.
However, all said and done, apple neuters it's phones a lot less when compared to most Android manufacturers.
I've become very wary of updating software on anything nowadays unless there's an issue I need fixed or a new feature that I'm willing to risk anything for.

enigmaamit said:
Samsung promised 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates. Usually, as time passes and device becomes older, it slips down in priority for os updates. So while we got the A12 update (half cooked or not) at the top of Samsung's list, older phones eligible for the same are going to recieve it a little later, depending on how old they are. So A13 may come in early 2023 instead of Dec 2022 (when the S22U starts getting it) and A14 may come a little later in 2024. By that time the S23U will be in front of the line for A14.
I must admit that Samsung has really stepped up its game when it comes to pushing updates (I'm talking quantity here, quality is another matter) to its devices, both new and old. And they may actually improve the update situation for older devices if things go really well. Only time will tell.
But im fairly sure we'll get timely security updates till the end of 2024.
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You are in a dream. Woke up. Most of us we stop updating our phones after first update. I learn my lesson, after every samsung update something is broken or feature taken away. When you buy a new phone, you have to rooted and fix yourself what you need, otherwise you are stuck in a loop hole with updates, fixes, waiting till next month for fix . I never update my s20 ultra and working smoothly and better than s21 ultra with stupid android 12 and other updates

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...Most of us we stop updating our phones after first update....
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I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. What you describe isn't what 'most' people follow. It's just a minority of tech enthusiasts who can figure out how to block updates. Everyone else just follows the system prompt.

enigmaamit said:
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. What you describe isn't what 'most' people follow. It's just a minority of tech enthusiasts who can figure out how to block updates. Everyone else just follows the system prompt.
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I know that is a minority, and I think most of the people who access XDA know what they doing or looking to learn. With all the information available here, you cannot stay androind sheep and dance how tech companies wants. I just love how android world it's define by developers " we are willing to share "

OK. So, apparently, Samsung is promising 4 OS generation updates with 5 years of security updates.
So, the S21 series will be going to Android 15.
I'll replace this phone in early 2025 then.

Question ...Android 12?

Any news from A12 Update for the OriginOs Version?

Feralt 91 said:
Any news from A12 Update for the OriginOs Version?
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Don't think chinese version will be updated. X50 Pro Plus is still on A10 after 2 years.
Android base updates are only for international model with FuntouchOS which is stock based.

maxant69 said:
Don't think chinese version will be updated. X50 Pro Plus is still on A10 after 2 years.
Android base updates are only for international model with FuntouchOS which is stock based.
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It's too early to jump to conclusions. Vivo updates its phones accordingly. And it's unlikely for a Chinese company to upgrade international models and omitting the domestic ones.
More likely, Vivo had hands full of OriginOS and Ocean upgrade and therefore delayed Android upgrade. We'll see.
Besides, Android 12 is not a big deal, it's more or less graphical improvement. OriginOS Ocean has its own architecture and additional features, so it's nothing much to gain. Android 13 may have significant system upgrades.
And don't forget: Vivo X50 pro+ was scheduled for upgrade only for March 2022. It's still a few days delay.

piskr said:
It's too early to jump to conclusions. Vivo updates its phones accordingly. And it's unlikely for a Chinese company to upgrade international models and omitting the domestic ones.
More likely, Vivo had hands full of OriginOS and Ocean upgrade and therefore delayed Android upgrade. We'll see.
Besides, Android 12 is not a big deal, it's more or less graphical improvement. OriginOS Ocean has its own architecture and additional features, so it's nothing much to gain. Android 13 may have significant system upgrades.
And don't forget: Vivo X50 pro+ was scheduled for upgrade only for March 2022. It's still a few days delay.
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Vivo X50 pro + is already updated on Ocean OS but base android is still 10.
It's a matter of fact: X50 Pro is still on A10, X51 (european version of X50 Pro) is on A12; that's is understandable as FuntouchOS is really stock, while OriginOs/OceanOs not.

beta a12 origin os ocean is allready out... so... the stable final will be available soon. be patient...

Beta is on Android 11. Don't think it will ever upgraded to A12

Question Android 12 for OriginOS Ocean

Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya

F4ISR said:
Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya
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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.

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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.
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not really surprising, since originos is something new they started not so long ago, and are still developing it. They first want it to be stable with the android 11 they started it with, before adding bugs from trying to make it compatible with a new android version
Also OP wrote this post like 4 weeks ago, just saying

Now the latest version is PD2145C_A_5.13.41))

Bye, bye Android 12 and further major updates, another feedback from Vivo Global Support
“OriginOS Ocean is a smartphone operating system that is deeply optimized, customized, and developed based on the Android system. It has independent supporting functions and performance optimization mechanisms, such as: system interface, built-in functions and applications, and interaction methods are all in-depth optimization functions. The functions and interfaces of the native systems are quite different. Due to the different hardware capabilities and configurations of each model, some models will continue to use the original Android version based on comprehensive consideration of operating stability, fluency, and compatibility after each model is upgraded to OriginOS Ocean. No matter what Android version your phone is based on, you can experience the new changes brought by OriginOS Ocean, so please continue to use it with confidence.“
Who the heck needs Android 12 if you have OriginOS Ocean?
Don‘t get me wrong, I am happy with my Vivo X70 Pro+ but why Vivo is promising (three) Android Major Updates for the X70 series but don‘t deliver? Android 13 is coming soon, this is so disappointing for a flagship device.

Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.

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Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.
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I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.

renderjoe said:
I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.
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But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.

piskr said:
But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.
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No, the differences are subtle concerning the UX. There are some more detailed settings, nothing really important. But the phone is more energy efficient with Android 12, better battery life and less standby consumption overnight.
But that‘s not the point. If you pay around € 900 for a phone and everybody around you got Android 12 updates for there much cheaper devices you are not satisfied. Especially if the vendor promises contemporary Android Major updates (three for the X70 series).
Let‘s finish this discussion: Vivo X70 Pro+ is a great device (with Android 11). But the update Service for this device doesn‘t satisfy MY expectations.