Question Service provider - Google Pixel 5a

So I get my pixel today. I ordered it unlocked. So I try to sign it up under my total wireless plan. They tell me I can't use it on total wireless because it's a Verizon carrier.
I try TracFone and sure enough it will work with them. The support person tells me that TracFone runs on the t mobile network. She suggested I go to Walmart and get a sim kit for .99 cents. Walmart only sells a kit for 10.00 and she has no idea what I am talking about. So I guess unlocked to all carriers does not mean all carriers.

designwebs said:
So I get my pixel today. I ordered it unlocked. So I try to sign it up under my total wireless plan. They tell me I can't use it on total wireless because it's a Verizon carrier.
I try TracFone and sure enough it will work with them. The support person tells me that TracFone runs on the t mobile network. She suggested I go to Walmart and get a sim kit for .99 cents. Walmart only sells a kit for 10.00 and she has no idea what I am talking about. So I guess unlocked to all carriers does not mean all carriers.
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Verizon is CDMA whereas all the others are GSM. You have to get Verizon, or the Verizon MVNO to assign your line to NOT use CDMA. Maybe this will help.

jaseman said:
Verizon is CDMA whereas all the others are GSM. You have to get Verizon, or the Verizon MVNO to assign your line to NOT use CDMA. Maybe this will help.
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Yes.. they can do that. I have total wireless
jaseman said:
Verizon is CDMA whereas all the others are GSM. You have to get Verizon, or the Verizon MVNO to assign your line to NOT use CDMA. Maybe this will help.
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By the way what is mvno mean?

designwebs said:
Yes.. they can do that. I have total wireless
By the way what is mvno mean?
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What is an MVNO?
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I'm using the 5a on Visible with no issues. 5g is working, too.
Visible is Verizon based as well.
Did you buy unlocked from the Google Store, or did you buy direct from a carrier?

luciferin said:
I'm using the 5a on Visible with no issues. 5g is working, too.
Visible is Verizon based as well.
Did you buy unlocked from the Google Store, or did you buy direct from a carrier?
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I bought from Google store unlocked.

So, if I'm reading your posts correctly, you do not have a Total Wireless SIM? That does sound like exactly what you need, and the support person you spoke to seems to have been correct. I found this for $1 via a quick Google:
Total Wireless SIM Kit
Read reviews and buy Total Wireless SIM Kit at Target. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more.
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Thanks for the reply. I do have a total wireless sim in this phone. The support person said that the phone to be CDMA phone to work on their network. Not a gsm phone. But I was told I could ask total wireless for a gsm line and get one. I think I am going to try Google fI for 3 months since I got it free.

I forgot to post my follow up. When I was trying to transfer my number I was putting in what I thought and was given by total wireless my account number. Turns out the account number is the emi of the phone. Once I put that number in the number transfer took less than 10 minutes to complete.

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T-Mobile $30 monthly 4g Howto plus NET10 comparison

1. Go into a TMobile store and buy the SIM prepaid activation kit They are not supposed to sell these without selling you a plan at the same time but my local mgr offered. Beg for one or order one online. If you are super desperate, buy a prepaid TMo phone and use the activation #, SIM # and the NEXUS 4 IMEI. Sell the $29 crap phone on craigslist. Cut the SIM or go into TMobile and get a new microsim for free. You could return the crap phone since they only deactivate the IMEI but thats unethical and you still need a new microsim as they must have the SIM to return the phone.
2. Activate your SIM with the $30/mo 100 minute 5GB data. You can use TMobile refill cards or credit
3. Check APN settings and enjoy
I also have a Net10 (ATT) $50/month plan w/ unlimited everything (no official details on data cap, cust service said there wasn't info or a cap).
Speed tests are around 5mbs for both providers. T-Mobile should be faster depending on the area due to network. I've seen up to 10mbs for T-Mobile. For t-mo voice use GrooveIP/Google Voice.
As for me, I'm getting a second TMo prepaid kit and paying $60 for two lines; one for Nexus 4 and one for ATT AWS modded Note 2.
Enjoy!
rockerrock said:
1. Go into a TMobile store and buy the SIM prepaid activation kit They are not supposed to sell these without selling you a plan at the same time but my local mgr offered. Beg for one or order one online. If you are super desperate, buy a prepaid TMo phone and use the activation #, SIM # and the NEXUS 4 IMEI. Sell the $29 crap phone on craigslist. Cut the SIM or go into TMobile and get a new microsim for free. You could return the crap phone since they only deactivate the IMEI but thats unethical and you still need a new microsim as they must have the SIM to return the phone.
2. Activate your SIM with the $30/mo 100 minute 5GB data. You can use TMobile refill cards or credit
3. Check APN settings and enjoy
I also have a Net10 (ATT) $50/month plan w/ unlimited everything (no official details on data cap, cust service said there wasn't info or a cap).
Speed tests are around 5mbs for both providers. T-Mobile should be faster depending on the area due to network. I've seen up to 10mbs for T-Mobile. For t-mo voice use GrooveIP/Google Voice.
As for me, I'm getting a second TMo prepaid kit and paying $60 for two lines; one for Nexus 4 and one for ATT AWS modded Note 2.
Enjoy!
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Net10 and Straight Talk are essentially the same company. If you call N10 support ST will answer. Figure that you will be throttled at 2GB after your first month. When you do get throttled, don't waste your time calling customer support, 45 minutes and they still don't unthrottle you. Post in the NET10 forums about slow data and you will get a response from an employee to PM them your imei and they will unthrottle you, usually in less then 10 minutes after you PM them during business hours.
Also for the TMobile sims without a contract try the prepaid webpage. You can use these for the $30/month plan.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phones/prepaid-sim-cards
Any difference between this and what theyre doing in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001290
rockerrock said:
1. Go into a TMobile store and buy the SIM prepaid activation kit They are not supposed to sell these without selling you a plan at the same time but my local mgr offered. Beg for one or order one online.
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Good on the store manager. I wasnt that lucky. Finally ordered it online.
Grr, t-mobile EDGE only in my hicktown, very fast in the state capitol. It's so cheap I think I'll keep Net10 in the Nexus4 and Tmo in the Note 2.
crachel said:
Any difference between this and what theyre doing in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001290
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I was so incredibly frustrated on failing to get a SIM locally that I explored other options. My first success was buying a prepaid phone and cutting the sim, second was the T-Mobile store whom informed me that he would sell the SIM solo which is not common.
crachel said:
Any difference between this and what theyre doing in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001290
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nope doesn't look like it. Do we need 2 threads?
woody296 said:
nope doesn't look like it. Do we need 2 threads?
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crachel said:
Any difference between this and what theyre doing in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001290
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I know right..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084063

getting ATT to give you service?

Now that I know my Droid 3 will work, I tested it with a ATT gophone SIM after doing the radio flash and such but now I'm trying to get real service with a dataplan and it is hell.
They say I need a certain sim card (W7 sim card) and they seem to think it is a micro sim which the droid 3 doesn't have that. the phone support told me they could not mail me this type of card and the store people can't seem to bring up my information from the phone order and keep saying I need something else.
Keep getting the 'its not going to work' thing but obviously it will.
Did any one else in the states run into this trying to get your D3 on ATT with service other than gophone service? Trying get a 550 sharte plan and 3gb data plans for 2 phones, both are Droid 3s
bigbacon said:
Now that I know my Droid 3 will work, I tested it with a ATT gophone SIM after doing the radio flash and such but now I'm trying to get real service with a dataplan and it is hell.
They say I need a certain sim card (W7 sim card) and they seem to think it is a micro sim which the droid 3 doesn't have that. the phone support told me they could not mail me this type of card and the store people can't seem to bring up my information from the phone order and keep saying I need something else.
Keep getting the 'its not going to work' thing but obviously it will.
Did any one else in the states run into this trying to get your D3 on ATT with service other than gophone service? Trying get a 550 sharte plan and 3gb data plans for 2 phones, both are Droid 3s
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You can buy sim adapters fairly cheap, if they sent you a micro sim, grab an adapter on ebay for a few bucks (usually comes in 3 packs for micro mini, and standard). Don't ask any customer service/corporate if it'll work, as by 'stock' the D3 does NOT support ATT (the mnc block Verizon has in the radio prevents this).
I have Straight Talk's BYOP service using AT&T's network on my Droid 3 and it works just fine (albeit hating ST ). If you want a go-phone plan, your cheapest option would be grabbing an ATT SIM from ebay (I bought one for a penny, trolol free shipping), and activated it on gophone awhile back when I was just first testing the radio swap, worked great, but I never tried doing much beyond a 10 dollar card for talk/text while away.
If you're trying to get on a contract, etc etc, I'd suggest you just don't tell them you have a verizon droid 3, tell them you just have an unlocked GSM phone, and if they bug you about it, tell them it's an XT860 4g or an XT883.
EDIT: You can also try just buying a SIM on ebay (make sure to get the newer orange ones) and just activating that on your AT&T account.
I had a free or discounted feature phone / dumb phone with them, with the 2 year contract, and I've used that SIM in subsequent phones with no problem... the SIM had 3G branding. Currently that same SIM and same account are working fine in my XT860 from Bell Canada (unlocked).
If you don't mind a contract, go with the simplest 3G feature phone you can get from them, and add Media.net Unlimited if they still offer it. Sell the feature phone or keep it as a backup.
I ran into the problem also with them saying I can't transfer my line because I now live in a different state. So I was give nthe option to go and sign up in that state OR send the sims to someone in that state....
what a pain. I never thought it was would be so difficult. If I'm going to get into a contract, I'll just get a new phone, I just fear that even though it seems to work with the ATT gophone SIM that once I pop a normal SIM in there, it won't work and I'll be switching to a contract and paying the 'upgrade' charge (which is really jut anoher way to make you pay the activation again)
That was my main fear.
I'm hoping they will let me just test a sim from another device at the store. I was going to show up with our phones radio flashed and ready to go for GSM and then see what they will do for me. I hope they;ll let me test it some how and/or let me sign up month to month and if it doesn't work, let me switch to contract and wave the upgrade BS.
thats the only thing I'm unsure of if I reflash to the GSM radio, take out my verizon SIM and show up with no sim. new build prop and it set to GSM before I show up if it will work or not.
bigbacon said:
I ran into the problem also with them saying I can't transfer my line because I now live in a different state. So I was give nthe option to go and sign up in that state OR send the sims to someone in that state....
what a pain. I never thought it was would be so difficult. If I'm going to get into a contract, I'll just get a new phone, I just fear that even though it seems to work with the ATT gophone SIM that once I pop a normal SIM in there, it won't work and I'll be switching to a contract and paying the 'upgrade' charge (which is really jut anoher way to make you pay the activation again)
That was my main fear.
I'm hoping they will let me just test a sim from another device at the store. I was going to show up with our phones radio flashed and ready to go for GSM and then see what they will do for me. I hope they;ll let me test it some how and/or let me sign up month to month and if it doesn't work, let me switch to contract and wave the upgrade BS.
thats the only thing I'm unsure of if I reflash to the GSM radio, take out my verizon SIM and show up with no sim. new build prop and it set to GSM before I show up if it will work or not.
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Welcome to the world of AT&T! Where they win worst in customer satisfaction 3 years running by consumer reports.
"Each year, Consumer Reports ranks all manner of U.S. wireless carriers based on customer satisfaction in a number of different categories. AT&T ranked dead last in the customer satisfaction survey for the third year in a row. It was hit with the worst rankings for any major carrier in value, voice quality, and customer support."
I'd suggest you go with a prepaid like Page Plus. I've used them, good flexible plans, friendly customer support, free ESN changes via online chat, no bull. Any Verizon phone outside of 'new' inpulse and blackberries can be activated (I've got Page Plus on my CDMA side and a *shudder* Straight Talk AT&T SIM on GSM in my Droid 3)
If you call customer service, you can usually get it activated for free, or find a 3rd party page plus dealer (I have a couple that do free instant activations). They're an MVNO of Verizon, so same network, but very much lower price. Verizon prepaid smartphone plan; 70USD for unlim talk/text and 1GB data. PagePlus? 55USD For unlim talk/text and 2GBs data, or 69.95 for 5GB of data, and buying online, no taxes either.
Anyway, luck to you. If you decide to go in-store, make sure your phone is completely GSM ready, leave the Verizon/Vodafone sim at home. Tell them it's GSM unlocked and it works on AT&T's network (mention you tested it, or let you test a SIM. I've *yet* to find a store that lets me test a sim though.)
The Droid 3 supports up to HSPA 14.4 on AT&T's network, I can get ~5.5Mbps, but I have noticed it's not as stable as Verizon, and calls drop, due to CDMA having better hand-off than GSM (CDMA actually connects to multiple towers at once for seamless handoff, GSM has to toss between the towers). Been awhile since I've really read into it, and I'm likely getting a bit technical...
for me, I can't even use verizon at home or anywhere with in a 30 mile+ radius. The ONLY carrier that has coverage out here is ATT and oddly, they have 4g coverage. My neighbors use them and the signal strength and data speeds are superb. There isn't another carrier.
I know straight talk and such might use ATT towers but I worry about the so called unlimited data and everything that really isn't unlimited.
I guess if one of those carrier actually use ATT towers then I guess I'm ok but how would I know without trying them out some how?
looks like straight talk no longer does ATT
net10 seems like you can still get ATT sims
I'm in WV and, again, ATT is the only provider that has voice and data coverage out here.
bigbacon said:
looks like straight talk no longer does ATT
net10 seems like you can still get ATT sims
I'm in WV and, again, ATT is the only provider that has voice and data coverage out here.
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Net10 at least came out and said there was a 1.5gb cap now on att. Albeit net10 and straighttalk are the exact same company. Outside of that, most any mvno of att is expensive, att itself is expensive, but you gotta use what you have to. Any that run on att will work on the d3 once modified to do so. Net10 and Red Pocket are the only two that come to mind at the moment, but do a bit of research and find a good one that fits your needs.
I have to search for a list since I'm reading now that some services like Net10 and such may use the ATT gohpone service area or they may use the normal service areas.
Can anyone confirm if Calls, SMS, MMS, and full Data and 3G coverage all work correctly on AT&T on the Droid 3 once unlocked?
think I'm going to try net10. $85 bucks a month to use the postpaid ATT network for 2 lines is alot better than 120 going with ATT and we don't use a lot of data. Looking back at our Verizon account over 6 months, we've never used even 1gb worth of data in a month. I can't find a chart or anything that shows which ones use the postpaid ATT network as I am up for other carriers other than net10 if they do.
seems like moving my number might be an issue though since I am no longer in PA.
braambo said:
Can anyone confirm if Calls, SMS, MMS, and full Data and 3G coverage all work correctly on AT&T on the Droid 3 once unlocked?
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I have a Bell Canada XT860, unlocked, and I use all of those except MMS, which I'm pretty sure would work too... I have the APN settings for it.
I am using a Droid 3 on At&t with the Medianet plan that only costs $10(if you're on an unlimited text plan).I'm getting speeds of
up to 5.5mb down and 1.5mb up. The speeds are better at night though.
If you want to use a prepaid GSM,the cheapest I've seen is Red Pockect that uses AT&T's network.They have unlimited talk,text &MMS.
PassingThruLife said:
I am using a Droid 3 on At&t with the Medianet plan that only costs $10(if you're on an unlimited text plan).I'm getting speeds of
up to 5.5mb down and 1.5mb up. The speeds are better at night though.
If you want to use a prepaid GSM,the cheapest I've seen is Red Pockect that uses AT&T's network.They have unlimited talk,text &MMS.
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Do you have the XT860 or XT862?
I would be all over the XT862 if Jellybean was available in a ROM (100% working)
redsrule2500 said:
Do you have the XT860 or XT862?
I would be all over the XT862 if Jellybean was available in a ROM (100% working)
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i have an xt862 that i flashed with the chinese radio. I love it honestly,especially since I can have a decent android phone with keyboard + a cheap data plan.
id love to see ICS on the droid 3 but i know it wont happen,the phone is going on 2 years into its lifespan and that kind of age means DEATH in the phone industry .
PassingThruLife said:
i have an xt862 that i flashed with the chinese radio. I love it honestly,especially since I can have a decent android phone with keyboard + a cheap data plan.
id love to see ICS on the droid 3 but i know it wont happen,the phone is going on 2 years into its lifespan and that kind of age means DEATH in the phone industry .
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Oh yeah, that's my goal here in looking for a replacement for my Milestone 1. I just know that I won't be able to take full advantage of the device without the newer Android OS versions available, and that's too bad because everything else is perfect with this phone. So I'm basically sticking w/ the Milestone 1 on CM7 until something better becomes available. (Weird part is even my Milestone 1 can run JB 4.1 100%...!)
I honestly have no phone to get that meets my upgrade specifications for AT&T (JB, keyboard, global phone), aside from attempting the PhotonQ SIM Card Mod, which is a huge risk since I don't know if it will work on AT&T. Blah.
redsrule2500 said:
Oh yeah, that's my goal here in looking for a replacement for my Milestone 1. I just know that I won't be able to take full advantage of the device without the newer Android OS versions available, and that's too bad because everything else is perfect with this phone. So I'm basically sticking w/ the Milestone 1 on CM7 until something better becomes available. (Weird part is even my Milestone 1 can run JB 4.1 100%...!)
I honestly have no phone to get that meets my upgrade specifications for AT&T (JB, keyboard, global phone), aside from attempting the PhotonQ SIM Card Mod, which is a huge risk since I don't know if it will work on AT&T. Blah.
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LOL I have spent some time thinking about the Photon Q,you can buy one with a bad ESN for around $120... but I am not that handy and taking apart the phone kind of scares me.
I'd be happy with a Photon Q for a while tho.
PassingThruLife said:
LOL I have spent some time thinking about the Photon Q,you can buy one with a bad ESN for around $120... but I am not that handy and taking apart the phone kind of scares me.
I'd be happy with a Photon Q for a while tho.
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Wow, that's so tempting. Didn't realize they would be that cheap.
It could be a fun project, as long as I don't screw it up completely....but I also would feel bad about owning a device which was most likely stolen.
redsrule2500 said:
Wow, that's so tempting. Didn't realize they would be that cheap.
It could be a fun project, as long as I don't screw it up completely....but I also would feel bad about owning a device which was most likely stolen.
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Well "bad ESN" doesnt always mean stolen,could also mean the person owes money and the phone is blacklisted till they pay it.
My Droid 3 had a bad ESN but it was because I lost my job and couldn't afford to pay Verizon's ridiculous prices. My income was literally cut in half.

Verizon and Walmarts Straight Talk??

I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
No one has any info on this?
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No one has any info on this?
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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Isn't the G2 CDMA and GSM capible??
Yes it is.
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There are people who wrote a method to flash a sprint epic to straight talk Verizon towers that works on sprint Note 2s. One of the intermediate steps flashes a vzw phone. CDMA workshop and a little bit of work can make it happen.
hd-renegade said:
I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
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I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
zandroid said:
I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
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Thank you, I sort of figured maybe it was to good to be true.
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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Another thank you on good info for this.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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You can get a LTE sim with ATT now on ST. Don't know if you can make it work in a VZW g2, but it should work fine in the ATT g2.
Okay, correction to my post. If you want vzw towers on st you have to have only vzw towers if you have a CDMA only phone. You can fflash to their sprint based service and only have sprint service (probably, not sure if they have donors to hack). Their sim networks are Att/T-Mobile. I haven't heard of anybody flashing to the st vzw towers with a vzw sim equipped phone and using one of their sims. That might be useful if you were in a place that regularly has simbased services and occasionally went to the boonies- you could just switch which service was active assuming you get better speed or home coverage on the sim service. Also useful for international (read: not north American) roaming.
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I realize that this is an old thread but I just switched to Straight Talk from Verizon and thought I would share this. After the switch (I kept my number from Verizon) my phone still shows Verizon Wireless on the lock screen, still says VZWInternet for my APN settings and still shows that I am getting 4GLTE. I am actually on Straight Talk service though as I have my SIM from ST in my phone. I didnt have to use an ATT sim or anything. I registered CDMA on the Straight Talk site before I switched my phone number over. Hope this is useful to anyone thinking about switching over.
Verizon is a straighttalk's carrier so basically your phone is still working under Verizon wireless.
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Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
RunNgun42 said:
Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
xtermmin said:
Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
RunNgun42 said:
Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
RunNgun42 said:
What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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There are a few of catches to ST's service, which apply to other Verizon MVNOs as well:
1) Verizon postpaid has roaming on 3rd party networks, while prepaid and MVNOs are limited to Verizon's native network only.
2) Verizon MVNOs have lower priority than Verizon-proper. On congested towers, ST and other MVNOs will have the slowest speeds.
3) Similar to the above, all Verizon MVNOs are capped at 5mbps LTE speeds. So not only do ST/MVNOs have the lowest priority, but even on uncongested towers their speeds are limited.
On the plus side, you get Verizon coverage, the largest data bucket at the $45 price point (5GB), and no additional charges/suspended data after you use your allotment (ST throttles to 64kbps after).
If priority and speeds are important, Verizon Prepaid has unlimited talk+text+2GB data (suspended after unless you pay for more) for $45. Higher priority than MVNOs and no speed restrictions.

Can someone in an LTE area try something for me?

NVM; it turns out my carrier (Net10) is staffed by idiots. (They claim every SIM card can get LTE but it turns out that only those of a newer set actually can).
I work for at&t and our 3g sim cards still pick up lte. I have an old 3g sim in right now testing
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I work for at&t and our 3g sim cards still pick up lte.
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Thing is, I'm on an iPad plan on that SIM (used a relative's iPad IMEI to do the initial website setup) and I'd read on the AT&T forums that unless the corresponding IMEI is LTE-enabled the SIM won't be either, and since the iPad I'd used is a GSM-only model, that's why I didn't get LTE when I'd tried my actual-AT&T SIM.
... can you verify if that's true (also, would you be able to provision it to LTE if I were to give you the IMSI)?
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Thing is, I'm on an iPad plan on that SIM (used a relative's iPad IMEI to do the initial website setup) and I'd read on the AT&T forums that unless the corresponding IMEI is LTE-enabled the SIM won't be either, and since the iPad I'd used is a GSM-only model, that's why I didn't get LTE when I'd tried my actual-AT&T SIM.
... can you verify if that's true (also, would you be able to provision it to LTE if I were to give you the IMSI)?
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That's true. Whenever you swap out equipment in the system your data type will change whether it's 3g,hspa+,lte,etc.
I wouldn't have access to net10 accounts. You'll need to go through their customer service.
jojones88 said:
I wouldn't have access to net10 accounts
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Can you modify my AT&T account? (I can PM you the IMSI.)
You'll need to go through [Net10's crap] customer service.
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Oh hells no- they're the dweebs that told me I was provisioned for LTE (when I really wasn't). Nah, thankfully I'm all set and will likely never have to deal with them again.
Me and my friend both have Firsts, I have an older Straight Talk SIM while he got the new LTE enabled one. And sure enough, he gets LTE while I don't. Though testing with YouTube HQ I get faster downloads than him.
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... Though testing with YouTube HQ I get faster downloads than him.
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Heh- what's funny is I'll probably use "*#*#4636#*#*" (or an app) to lock out LTE after all, to preserve the excellent battery life the First gets- but I just hated having a feature available that I wasn't able to take advantage of!
I've gotten ~1.5MByte/sec via HSPA+ data, which is just fine, realistically (we only get 2.5GB/mo on Net10 anyway).

[Q] Play Store Version and Verizon

Has there been any confirmation or otherwise on whether or not the Play Store version will be able to be activated on Verizon?
I know there's only one SKU and I know that the Nexus 5 was able to be activated on Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T so I'm inclined to believe the Play Store device can be activated on any of the major carriers.
i've got similar questions.
like you, i wonder if this 1 "US" model is essentially identical across the board. i wonder if the play store variant can be activated on either cdma or gsm. i also wonder if there's a difference in the play store N6 and the N6 on motorolas web store. i guess i'm really just wondering if all the bootloaders can be unlocked, no matter where you purchased your Nexus 6.
There's only 2 models one for American one for the rest of the world. I have some doubts that Verizon will activate one from the play store only because they might require the imei to already be in their system as in bought from them. But it's possible to have them add your imei after the fact. Or at least sprint was able to with the N5
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There's only 2 models one for American one for the rest of the world. I have some doubts that Verizon will activate one from the play store only because they might require the imei to already be in their system as in bought from them. But it's possible to have them add your imei after the fact. Or at least sprint was able to with the N5
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My understanding is with Verizon, if you already have an activated nano-SIM, you can just put it in the Nexus 6 and it would work (if you set the APN details right). Can anyone confirm this?
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My understanding is with Verizon, if you already have an activated nano-SIM, you can just put it in the Nexus 6 and it would work (if you set the APN details right). Can anyone confirm this?
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This is my understanding
The problem with VZW is you can't just out your Sim into a phone that doesn't have its IMEI/MEID white listed in their system because of the CDMA part. I'm hoping that all of the IME/MEID of all the Nexus 6s will be added but we have no confirmation and VZW won't comment on the matter.
I hope they don't even have to add the imei it should just work.
joshua.justice said:
I hope they don't even have to add the imei it should just work.
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It wont just work on the cdma side .... Just like sprint and the nexus 5 they will have to manually add the imei to thier system. But should be easy .It may stop people from upgrading and keeping unlimited data but that is another thing in itself
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It wont just work on the cdma side .... Just like sprint and the nexus 5 they will have to manually add the imei to thier system. But should be easy .It may stop people from upgrading and keeping unlimited data but that is another thing in itself
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How can you be certain it won't?
Cdma doesnt work like gsm you can't just insert sim card and it work ... You could buy the n5 from Google and sprint had to manually add imei to system or you would not get 1x or 3g putting sim in only got you lte . should be the same again with both carriers now
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Cdma doesnt work like gsm you can't just insert sim card and it work ... You could buy the n5 from Google and sprint had to manually add imei to system or you would not get 1x or 3g putting sim in only got you lte . should be the same again with both carriers now
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But if you buy it from them it should work automatically? And is there any way for them to know if I get one from t mobile instead of Google and try to use it on their network?
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But if you buy it from them it should work automatically? And is there any way for them to know if I get one from t mobile instead of Google and try to use it on their network?
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It's not going to work and unless your phone has a nano sim in it right now ie a iPhone your going to have to call and get it activated on your account... Like i said the imei on sprint had to be added until then you would only get lte .... Without a activated nano sim you won't get anything
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It's not going to work and unless your phone has a nano sim in it right now ie a iPhone your going to have to call and get it activated on your account... Like i said the imei on sprint had to be added until then you would only get lte .... Without a activated nano sim you won't get anything
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Okay, so I can cut it down and if that doesn't work get a new SIM. Can they tell the sim size based on the iccid number?
bloodiedwraith said:
Has there been any confirmation or otherwise on whether or not the Play Store version will be able to be activated on Verizon?
I know there's only one SKU and I know that the Nexus 5 was able to be activated on Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T so I'm inclined to believe the Play Store device can be activated on any of the major carriers.
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The Verge said, "The Nexus 6 is going to be sold unlocked for $649... The unlocked model will work on all four major US carriers."
Straight talk
I was wondering if I will be able to use this on the Straight talk CDMA network. Seeing the Nexus 5 was not sold by Verizon that made sense, but since Verizon will have the Nexus 6 I am hoping I will be able to use this phone on Straight talk using CDMA network. I am currently on AT&T and am waiting for the N6 release to switch over to ST, but I really need to know if I can use this phone if I switch. Anyone have an idea or is it still to early to know something like this?
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I was wondering if I will be able to use this on the Straight talk CDMA network. Seeing the Nexus 5 was not sold by Verizon that made sense, but since Verizon will have the Nexus 6 I am hoping I will be able to use this phone on Straight talk using CDMA network. I am currently on AT&T and am waiting for the N6 release to switch over to ST, but I really need to know if I can use this phone if I switch. Anyone have an idea or is it still to early to know something like this?
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I don't think you'll be able to use the N6 on Straight Talk CDMA. I can't use my Verizon Moto X on it. Only a CDMA flip phone was accepted.
You'll be able to use it he N6 on Straight Talk GSM network.
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I don't think you'll be able to use the N6 on Straight Talk CDMA. I can't use my Verizon Moto X on it. Only a CDMA flip phone was accepted.
You'll be able to use it he N6 on Straight Talk GSM network.
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Ya, that is what I figured, not the worst thing to stay with the GSM network but I would have preferred the CDMA. Thanks.
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Ya, that is what I figured, not the worst thing to stay with the GSM network but I would have preferred the CDMA. Thanks.
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I'm leaving CDMA for GSM once I get my hands on some Nexi 6.
Giving up both my Verizon Unlimited lines to go with AT&T.
rebretz000 said:
I'm leaving CDMA for GSM once I get my hands on some Nexi 6.
Giving up both my Verizon Unlimited lines to go with AT&T.
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I hope you're giving (or selling) those unlimited lines to someone and not just cancelling — people would kill for those!
NOTashwin said:
I hope you're giving (or selling) those unlimited lines to someone and not just cancelling — people would kill for those!
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I was going to try and sale them on ebay. I was looking, doesn't look like they go for as much as they use to. I'm hoping to get enough to make it worth it. At least $200 per line. But maybe with the Nexus 6 the price will go back up.

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