Question Zenfone 8 suddenly died - no sign of life - Asus EU support not covering because of an unlocked bootloader - ASUS ZenFone 8

Hi,
A week ago I was using my < 4 months old Zenfone 8 while traveling in Germany, and at 19% battery the screen turned black. I went back home, tried charging it for as long as possible, it was staying cold and never showed any sign of life.
So I opened a RMA on Asus Belgium website (as I am from Belgium), and shipped the phone to their repair center.
Today, I got an email from them, saying that the warranty wasn't covering the damage, and that I had to pay 500,28€ for a replacement of the motherboard.
When going into their OOW website, I saw this table :
Warranty start:2021-05-16Warranty end:2023-05-15Issue date:2021-09-13Receive date:2021-09-15Charge reason:OOWCustomer agree to quotation:Charge reason:OOW - Out of warranty ASUS Product Unlock Flag-oow scratched
It seems to me that the "unlock flag" is their bootloader unlock tool, that I had indeed used to root the phone before, and wanted to try a few custom ROM - which I actually never did since there were none at the time. Of course, this is completely unrelated to the issue, as it is not even rooted anymore and I basically did nothing with it.
As I am from the EU, I saw that there are laws that protect consumers from these types of abusive behaviors from companies, as explained here https://piana.eu/root/
I am therefore
1) looking for people who had this problem with their Zenfone 8 (what is it actually? never seen a brand new phone die like this)
2) looking for people who had their warranty denied for an unlocked bootloader in the EU, and what is possible to do
Thank you very much for your attention and for your help

There loads of people that has the same bricked state:
ZenFone8 stuck on waiting for flashing full ramdump
As requested by the mod - opening new discussion for the issue. The Flashing Full Ramdump happened to me too - the phone was being charged over the night and the error was waiting when I woke up. I hope that at least your service will fix it quickly.
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I had it on my 1st ZF8, complety dead. Sent it for repair but ASUS refunded it.
2nd one seems resistent to this bug, rooted, flashed all kinds of roms etc, ended in ramdump state but can always boot to fastboot.

NisseGurra said:
There loads of people that has the same bricked state:
ZenFone8 stuck on waiting for flashing full ramdump
As requested by the mod - opening new discussion for the issue. The Flashing Full Ramdump happened to me too - the phone was being charged over the night and the error was waiting when I woke up. I hope that at least your service will fix it quickly.
zentalk.asus.com
I had it on my 1st ZF8, complety dead. Sent it for repair but ASUS refunded it.
2nd one seems resistent to this bug, rooted, flashed all kinds of roms etc, ended in ramdump state but can always boot to fastboot.
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I've seen that but I'm not sure it's the exact same state, as for me it didn't even display anything anymore. Also, did Asus refund you even with your bootloader unlocked?

flolaff said:
I've seen that but I'm not sure it's the exact same state, as for me it didn't even display anything anymore. Also, did Asus refund you even with your bootloader unlocked?
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Yes, it was bootloader unlocked.
You can also check state when you plug it to computer, even with dark screen.
Check what the usb connection says in device manager

NisseGurra said:
Yes, it was bootloader unlocked.
You can also check state when you plug it to computer, even with dark screen.
Check what the usb connection says in device manager
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Yeah I tried it back when I had the phone (since it’s now hostage at Asus) and nothing showed up in the device manager

So update: After a bit of back and forth emailing, I finally got an answer: « Im really sorry but our answer will not change. By using the unlock tool you have agreed that the warranty will be dropped, no matter what problem you are experiencing and regardless of how the problem arose. »
So basically they openly agree that they are scamming me of 500€ after selling me a faulty device, but thanks to an abusive clause, they think they can do it.
Great customer service, always a pleasure to give business to such a great company as Asus… I’ll get my lawyer involved now, anyone who has advices on the legal process in the EU is very welcome.

Seem to be some hardware fault with the 1st batch. Really bad customer response from asus, loads of reports of dying zf8's now

NisseGurra said:
Seem to be some hardware fault with the 1st batch. Really bad customer response from asus, loads of reports of dying zf8's now
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What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue

Blumi511 said:
What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue
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256GB that died, new 128GB is ok

NisseGurra said:
256GB that died, new 128GB is ok
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I really hope my small 128 GB phone won't have this issue. I really like this phone...

There are reports on Zentalk forums of both 128 and 256 models dying
We are basically all held in suspense wondering if our phones will die or not. Personally, I have a second phone (Xperia z5 premium) that is fully set up and I can easily switch in case of problems, but it is still not a nice feeling

Possible battery failure. Inspect.

I dont think its battery fail, seems more likely that storage or RAM gets corrupt, the 1st state is
"waiting for flashing full ramdump". I have this state on my 2nd zf8 but can always reboot to fastboot. That was not the case on the first unit

blackhawk said:
Possible battery failure. Inspect.
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Ramdump is a battery failure?

assasss said:
Ramdump is a battery failure?
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If you already found the cause disregard...

blackhawk said:
If you already found the cause disregard...
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I haven't found the cause. My phone is working normally.
However people on Zentalk forums which have sent their phones for repair have reported that the service report has information that motherboard was replaced. I can't confirm or deny this

Blumi511 said:
What type of zenfone did you have?
I am wondering whether only 256GB phones have this issue
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Was the 128GB model for me, we still don’t know what the issue is.
If I can’t get the phone fixed the legal way I think I’ll pay the 60€ to get it back unrepaired (because yes, I have to pay for that) and open it myself to try and find the issue. Maybe I’ll be more competent than their lame service at identifying the issue

flolaff said:
Was the 128GB model for me, we still don’t know what the issue is.
If I can’t get the phone fixed the legal way I think I’ll pay the 60€ to get it back unrepaired (because yes, I have to pay for that) and open it myself to try and find the issue. Maybe I’ll be more competent than their lame service at identifying the issue
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Oh man I feel sorry for you. In Germany, they'd have to prove it was not their fault in the first 6 month after buying

Blumi511 said:
Oh man I feel sorry for you. In Germany, they'd have to prove it was not their fault in the first 6 month after buying
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I know, it’s the exact same law here in Belgium but they don’t care…

22 dead zf8 so far in the asus forum thread. #asusZF8DeadGate

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Samsung Note Warranty from a different country

Hi, I'm in the US currently with a Samsung Note GT-N7000 that I purchased from Amazon (the phone imei showed that it is from the UK). After about 8 months of use without using custom roms, it seems to have hardbricked through normal usage (At the time of bricking I believe I was deleting some photos in a program called QuickPix when it froze and eventually had to be manually turned off. Then it would struggle booting on the Samsung logo and after a retry, it just would not boot anymore). It is completely unresponsive when you press any of the buttons and won't get recognized when hooked up to the computer. I even tried using new batteries but that did not work. I don't think the Jig will work in my case either.
I called Samsung US and they told me that the phone would have to be covered in the country where the phone was originally manufactured for which is the UK in my case. I was wondering if anyone else have been in my situation where you are in a different country with a phone that needed repairs. Samsung UK requires that you have an address in the UK so it makes it difficult for me to file a claim. Has anyone been able to get Samsung US to take your non-US claim or have found a way to file a claim without a UK address?
Thank you so much.
chumpburger said:
Hi, I'm in the US currently with a Samsung Note GT-N7000 that I purchased from Amazon (the phone imei showed that it is from the UK). After about 8 months of use without using custom roms, it seems to have hardbricked through normal usage (At the time of bricking I believe I was deleting some photos in a program called QuickPix when it froze and eventually had to be manually turned off. Then it would struggle booting on the Samsung logo and after a retry, it just would not boot anymore). It is completely unresponsive when you press any of the buttons and won't get recognized when hooked up to the computer. I even tried using new batteries but that did not work. I don't think the Jig will work in my case either.
I called Samsung US and they told me that the phone would have to be covered in the country where the phone was originally manufactured for which is the UK in my case. I was wondering if anyone else have been in my situation where you are in a different country with a phone that needed repairs. Samsung UK requires that you have an address in the UK so it makes it difficult for me to file a claim. Has anyone been able to get Samsung US to take your non-US claim or have found a way to file a claim without a UK address?
Thank you so much.
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Excuse me, but doesn't Amazon have the obligation to be the liaison between Samsung and you? I mean, they are no different than if you had bought it from BestBuy. You should be able to contact Amazon, and tell them that your phone broke and you'd like to have it repaired under warranty. I live here in Spain, and I bought something from Amazon Spain but it was imported from the UK. I sent it back and Amazon paid for it to be sent back and everything.
I'd try contacting Amazon, and tell them the same situation. Tell them that you got the phone through them and then it broke, and you went directly to Samsung and they said that they won't honor the warranty as it was imported from Europe. Amazon has an obligation to offer the warranty. Not to mention, Amazon is probably one of the best companies I've ever worked with. Fast responses, fast shipments and awesome service in general.
Give them a try.
Hope I've helped.
First of all was the phone all the time on stock roms ? If yes then please contact or wait to get contacted by entropy512 if the phone is died du to emmc bug. Just hold a few hours I guess
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Braxos said:
First of all was the phone all the time on stock roms ? If yes then please contact or wait to get contacted by entropy512 if the phone is died du to emmc bug. Just hold a few hours I guess
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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I'd need a lot more details, but:
What exact firmware was it on? What build?
As much as I would like for this to be an example of an eMMC brick on stock, the fact that it occurred when deleting files means that unless Samsung has enabled the "discard" mount option for storage in a new build I am unaware of, it's something else like a bad solder joint.
Entropy512 said:
I'd need a lot more details, but:
What exact firmware was it on? What build?
As much as I would like for this to be an example of an eMMC brick on stock, the fact that it occurred when deleting files means that unless Samsung has enabled the "discard" mount option for storage in a new build I am unaware of, it's something else like a bad solder joint.
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I had the phone up to date through the samsung / settings / update so whatever the last ICS update was unless there has been a new update within the past 5 days. The last major update, I remember it installed some German apps, latest version of Kies, and made the Note a lot smoother. As I mentioned before, the phone did try to reboot to the samsung logo after it froze but it never was able to boot all the way. I should have stopped at that point but I tried to reboot a couple times and that is when it became unresponsive.

Unlock Warranty Consequences?

I'm dying to get root (event temp) so I can chroot debian but due to the apparent flimsiness of the dock am a little scared to loose warranty coverage.
What are the real consequences of unlocking on warranty? If the hinge or connector breaks (hardware issuss) does Asus just turn it away if unlocked?
I don't know how Asus handle this, but I know from Sony and HTC that there never was a problem when unlocked. Just if you grill your processor or hardbrick the phone MAYbe they refuse, but I never ever heard something like this.
If the dock breaks it more common that a seller states that it is your fault because of using too much force.... But they can't refuse warranty on hardware dock because of rooting the tablet...
A friend hardbricked his Samsung and the message from service center was that it fell on the floor I guess in most cases they can't tell if you brick if it's from rooting/flashing or not....
I talked to Asus polish support yesterday, about this. The guy said that when you unlock the bootloader, you loose WHOLE warranty.
He even said that if you bought yours with keyboard dock, you loose your warranty on that too.
huball said:
I talked to Asus polish support yesterday, about this. The guy said that when you unlock the bootloader, you loose WHOLE warranty.
He even said that if you bought yours with keyboard dock, you loose your warranty on that too.
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He can say that, but I don't believe that they would have any chance in court...
huball said:
I talked to Asus polish support yesterday, about this. The guy said that when you unlock the bootloader, you loose WHOLE warranty.
He even said that if you bought yours with keyboard dock, you loose your warranty on that too.
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Yup. Unlocking any asus tablets fully voids your warranty. But I don't know how they can deny warranty on the dock if you just send the dock.
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aznmode said:
Yup. Unlocking any asus tablets fully voids your warranty. But I don't know how they can deny warranty on the dock if you just send the dock.
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Because that's what you agree to when you unlock...
The text you have to agree to before you use the unlock tool doesn't leave any doubt's: You kiss your warranty good bye - no matter what. There have been cases where TF700 users got a warranty repair even after unlocking. But I would not count on it. And you certainly cannot demand it.
Unless you live in the EU, it seems. Stronger consumer protection laws seem to give users a leg up, so research your country's laws.
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Yezariael said:
He can say that, but I don't believe that they would have any chance in court...
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Huh? Got that kind of money do you? Know the law do you? Those guys are the 5th largest PC vendor in the world. Go for it I dare ya.
Anyway if you search on this you find some that tried to send it back and they WOULD NOT fix it. Wanted to charge them hundreds of dollors to fix. Yet I think I remember someone that got it fixed. Not worth it. Its ASUS
Zeblade said:
Huh? Got that kind of money do you? Know the law do you? Those guys are the 5th largest PC vendor in the world.
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Yeah, I know the (Swiss) laws, and if I need a good lawyer I have an insurance for this Anyway, consumer have a lot of rights, at least in Switzerland and EU, and a company cannot deny any warranty. If the defect is a consequence of unlocking they could, but not if the dock is not working properly... The problem is, most people would not go to court because of this 500 bucks...
In Europe (EU) they can't deny warranty by law. Doesn't matter what Asus tells on their website.
When for example the dock cnnector is broken and you are unlocked the manufacturer MUST PROOF that the malfunction was caused by unlocking the device and they can't.
Would they reject warranty then a letter of a lawyer does miracles.
Hi, here in Germany we have two warranties. One comes from the law and helps you six months, after this time you have to prove that the damage existed from the beginning which is practically nearly not possible. They can´t deny you this warranty as it´s a law.
The other warranty which comes from the manufacturer is something they can deny as it is voluntary.
So at least for me right now I don´t want to root even though I really want to root .
My question belonging to this is if there will be a chance to root without unlocking the bootloader? As I read that unlocking the bootloader on an Android device helps in first place to install a custom rom. So getting root with the stock kernel schouldn´t void any warranty...
SHadowral said:
My question belonging to this is if there will be a chance to root without unlocking the bootloader? As I read that unlocking the bootloader on an Android device helps in first place to install a custom rom. So getting root with the stock kernel schouldn´t void any warranty...
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There is. On other devices some developers made it possible, but usually it takes "some" time... can be tomorrow, can be in 1 year, can be never... Has nothing to do with stock kernel, when you can install a recovery you can change kernel, too. With official unlock tools like Asus or Sony are doing they get a database with all unlocked devices... What they do with this data is another question
Thanks, i´ll patiently wait for the day to come
asus reply
So as most will know, my TF701 is unlocked.
I do have trouble with the dock connector, I agree it's annoying.
So I contacted the ASUS support of doom, to find out more (I don't actually think of returning it, I just wondered).
As the The unlocker phones home, my warranty is bust.
Dear Mr. Dunwell,
thank you for your email request.
This unit is Out of Warranty due to Unlock device.
In the case of an under warranty repair is first created a cost estimate.
Here, a service fee in the amount of about 135 CHF.
This amount is also refusing to pay the cost estimate, and covers the cost of inspection and the shipping of the unrepaired unit.
It is not possible for us to name the price in advance without having to inspect the equipment, please be understanding of this.
1. Please fill in the relavant warranty application (3. Send in Service - Einsendung defekter Ware) form for your product, by clicking on the link:
https://eu-rma.asus.com/pick_eu/ch_d/eee.html
2. After approval of the submitted data you will receive the RMA number and shipping instructions from us by e-mail.
3. Please read our Terms & Conditions before filling in the RMA forms.
Please don't hesitate to contact us, if you have any questions.
We are committed to customer satisfaction.
You will receive in the next few days by e-mail a link to your satisfaction survey.
We would be very happy if you take the survey and evaluate our service.
Your answers will help us identify the areas where we could improve.
Sincerely,
Mehmet Adyakar
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What do I learn of this?
Screw ASUS support
Wait for diy fix to appear
lpdunwell said:
So as most will know, my TF701 is unlocked.
I do have trouble with the dock connector, I agree it's annoying.
So I contacted the ASUS support of doom, to find out more (I don't actually think of returning it, I just wondered).
As the The unlocker phones home, my warranty is bust.
What do I learn of this?
Screw ASUS support
Wait for diy fix to appear
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CHF - you're in Switzerland? Check your consumer protection laws. You guys in Europe are much better off than us here in the US. Netherlands and I believe Germany does not let Asus get away with voiding the warranty just because you unlock. So check the laws in your country...
berndblb said:
CHF - you're in Switzerland? Check your consumer protection laws. You guys in Europe are much better off than us here in the US. Netherlands and I believe Germany does not let Asus get away with voiding the warranty just because you unlock. So check the laws in your country...
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Yes, Switzerland. Thanks. I will! I replied to ASUS and asked about that.
Besides that, I always hate returning things. If there's a way to get it sorted with little hassle, that's my choice.
IMHO the only thing worse than warranty with broken electronics is broken guns. -.-
lpdunwell said:
Yes, Switzerland. Thanks. I will! I replied to ASUS and asked about that.
Besides that, I always hate returning things. If there's a way to get it sorted with little hassle, that's my choice.
IMHO the only thing worse than warranty with broken electronics is broken guns. -.-
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Indeed here in Holland they can't refuse the warranty because of unlocking. In fact ASUS must proof that the connector problem was caused by unlocking the device and they can't of course.
Sent from my superfast Asus Infinity TF701with Dock
lpdunwell said:
Yes, Switzerland. Thanks. I will! I replied to ASUS and asked about that.
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Do you have an insurance for things like that? (Rechtsschutzversicherung) They would do the work, as I don't believe that Asus will say "Oh yes, Swiss guy, no problem!"
I had a tf700 which I'd unlocked, rooted, etc..
The display developed a few solid rows of red pixels depending on pressure from the dock hinge. I sent the unit in under RMA and they replaced the screen and sent it back. It was returned still unlocked and loaded w/ the same OS load I sent it in with. No questions asked.
My expectation is that if the issue could be software related to something you've done, then you'll be in a pickle.. but if it's actually hardware, they'll honor things without problem (at least, that was my experience).
LK
linuxkidd said:
I had a tf700 which I'd unlocked, rooted, etc..
The display developed a few solid rows of red pixels depending on pressure from the dock hinge. I sent the unit in under RMA and they replaced the screen and sent it back. It was returned still unlocked and loaded w/ the same OS load I sent it in with. No questions asked.
My expectation is that if the issue could be software related to something you've done, then you'll be in a pickle.. but if it's actually hardware, they'll honor things without problem (at least, that was my experience).
LK
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That is nice and all but your speaking for Asus and you can't. We always find that one person on that one day that didn't do their job. You got lucky. I am sure more posts like this will help Asus really slack off more.
I just read last week someone sold their Tf700 unlocked on ebay. The buyer new all this bought it anyway. The screen cut out a month later Asus would NOT touch it unless the guy gave up about $150. The unlock had nothing todo with the screen what so ever.
So NEVER listen to posts like this. You void the warranty and you want them to look the other way. Granted I don't know one time a unlock was the cause of a broken tablet lol but Man if you ever learned anything then remember when you took that tag of your mattress and look what happen.. what happen? Yeah
Zeblade said:
That is nice and all but your speaking for Asus and you can't....
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linuxkidd said:
...My expectation is that ...
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Nope.. not speaking for Asus.. Giving my expectation, not policy of Asus (as caveated with "My expectation is that...")
Zeblade said:
...I just read last week someone sold their Tf700 unlocked on ebay. The buyer new all this bought it anyway. The screen cut out a month later Asus would NOT touch it unless the guy gave up about $150. The unlock had nothing todo with the screen what so ever....
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I believe you found the reason it wasn't honored right here... Warranty almost never transfers across owners. They (in general, not speaking specifically for Asus) usually state that they are only good for the original owner of the device.
It is true that either
A) I found the one person (or persons... ) slacking in their job and they replaced a hardware component which was clearly defective and had nothing to do with the device being unlocked.
or
B) The few other people who've had issues found the one or two people who were being dicks.
Either way, the story you provide doesn't even apply due to the tablet not being with the original owner.
LK

Silence, unexpected.

Hello all,
Have this baby since Dec. 2013 when I swapped it from a broken one.
Has been running since, no problems, no root, no unlock, all well.
Switched it to power off before a trip and wanted to power back on in airplane, no nothing, silence.
Long press, vol down + power, up + power, no change at all. Charging shows keyboard is full, no light on tablet. Connection to PC also nada.
Any ideas?
Ruud
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Well I'll be damned. Brought it to Asus. First off they told me that the tablet purchased in Holland does not have warranty in Russia, so I am to pay myself. I paid for a diagnose, so at least they tell me what's wrong. The result is, they told me the screen is completely to be renewed. My disagreement with this is simple. The screen goes dead and also no light is showing the charging status? The screen is dead but the device works, no way, then I should feel a vibration on power-on, because I power it down. The screen is dead and why does the HDMI not give output either?
So my question to You guys here, is this really possible ?
I disagree to pay 200 Euro's for a device still in warranty for a display repair, so I will have it returned to Holland and do warranty there, but I am really pissed with this.
AND, what a beaty to keep the nicely fitting TF700T in my hands again, it does not have the crazy connection between keyboard and tablet, this was SOOO much better.
Regards,
Ruud
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Ruud Westerhout said:
Well I'll be damned. Brought it to Asus. First off they told me that the tablet purchased in Holland does not have warranty in Russia, so I am to pay myself. I paid for a diagnose, so at least they tell me what's wrong. The result is, they told me the screen is completely to be renewed. My disagreement with this is simple. The screen goes dead and also no light is showing the charging status? The screen is dead but the device works, no way, then I should feel a vibration on power-on, because I power it down. The screen is dead and why does the HDMI not give output either?
So my question to You guys here, is this really possible ?
I disagree to pay 200 Euro's for a device still in warranty for a display repair, so I will have it returned to Holland and do warranty there, but I am really pissed with this.
AND, what a beaty to keep the nicely fitting TF700T in my hands again, it does not have the crazy connection between keyboard and tablet, this was SOOO much better.
Regards,
Ruud
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TF701 doesn't have vibration.....
Hello Darren,
not only do I seem do mix up my devices, I also do not seem to control them all, I was sure I reacted to this already. Yet, in Tapatalk I see your message is the last.
Sorry for mixing them up, it must be my HTC One which is 'waking me up' with a vibrate instead.
Yesterday I received my TF701T back from the local Asus Premium Service and I 'am not too impressed'.
To give You an idea of my bad feeling:
I gave a device which did not give any reaction at all, to whatever I do.
1)I was returned a device which shows the charging orange led, they must have changed something.
2)the charging light does not turn off, even after a complete night charging
3)touching the power button now turns on the display backlight, it can easily be noticed it bad light, it certainly did not do that before (I would have known I have a display problem).
-There are some scratches on the devices back which were not there before. Nothing to be angry about, but not made by me. The front is full of fingerprints, also certainly not how I gave it to them.
So, did I get something else back? I certainly have that feeling, but will probably never be able to show this. Do I judge this 'Premium Service', certainly not. I would have expected better care and an explanation on the changes.
The diagnose just says 'LCD Module needs to be exchanged'. My question as to 'why' was not answered, we do not do such diagnose.
My question 'if this would have been warranty, would it have been a Russian purchased device' was answered, 100% for sure. But as I have purchased it in Holland they are forced to deny the warranty. I would have to pay 213 Euro next to the 20 Euro I already paid for the diagnose. I decided to return the device to Holland for warranty repair instead. A new device including the Eng/Rus keyboard would be just double the price of the repair and makes it quite unrealistic to me.
Next to explaining this whole situation and providing copies of the documents given by Asus Premium Service here, when I give it away in Holland, anything else I should do?, other proposals ?
Ruud
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Ruud Westerhout said:
Hello Darren,
not only do I seem do mix up my devices, I also do not seem to control them all, I was sure I reacted to this already. Yet, in Tapatalk I see your message is the last.
Sorry for mixing them up, it must be my HTC One which is 'waking me up' with a vibrate instead.
Yesterday I received my TF701T back from the local Asus Premium Service and I 'am not too impressed'.
To give You an idea of my bad feeling:
I gave a device which did not give any reaction at all, to whatever I do.
1)I was returned a device which shows the charging orange led, they must have changed something.
2)the charging light does not turn off, even after a complete night charging
3)touching the power button now turns on the display backlight, it can easily be noticed it bad light, it certainly did not do that before (I would have known I have a display problem).
-There are some scratches on the devices back which were not there before. Nothing to be angry about, but not made by me. The front is full of fingerprints, also certainly not how I gave it to them.
So, did I get something else back? I certainly have that feeling, but will probably never be able to show this. Do I judge this 'Premium Service', certainly not. I would have expected better care and an explanation on the changes.
The diagnose just says 'LCD Module needs to be exchanged'. My question as to 'why' was not answered, we do not do such diagnose.
My question 'if this would have been warranty, would it have been a Russian purchased device' was answered, 100% for sure. But as I have purchased it in Holland they are forced to deny the warranty. I would have to pay 213 Euro next to the 20 Euro I already paid for the diagnose. I decided to return the device to Holland for warranty repair instead. A new device including the Eng/Rus keyboard would be just double the price of the repair and makes it quite unrealistic to me.
Next to explaining this whole situation and providing copies of the documents given by Asus Premium Service here, when I give it away in Holland, anything else I should do?, other proposals ?
Ruud
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waste of time if you ask me. i sent mine twice now, just got it back and now the sd card inthe dock doesn`t work immediately noticed.
It just mounts un mounts over and over formatted the sd and tested other devices \. so hey failed to repair.
I have now demanded a new one but asus still say only repair..
well i have owned the device for 5 months and they have had it for 3 month of that time......
not to mention they didn`t fix the issues it already had. even though claiming they replaced the board.
and i can see the keyboard has marks along the side as if the repairer couldn`t open it and damaged the plastic seals.
so i have escalated this and refused to repair a third time. i said send me a new one and i will send you my faulty one. otherwise i go to the fair trade for a complaint here.
Also several people on the forum have tricked themselves into believing this tablet is now great and no issues because they are using software better than the poorly delivered asus version.
yet when i read over their posts from the return from repair at asus they stated it still disconnects on occasions.
Well i`m sorry for being negative but while yes the device does have great specs and looks nice and should have been a top market seller, ASUS delivery of build quality destroyed any chance of that.
The lack of any dev except from 2 people shows just how poor this device is. compared to the tf700 which was terrible in io and had tons of people complaining yet it still received alot of development comparative to this device.
best of luck on your warranty adventures. lets hope Holland has more competent repairers than most other countries.
malos1984 said:
waste of time if you ask me. i sent mine twice now, just got it back and now the sd card inthe dock doesn`t work immediately noticed.
It just mounts un mounts over and over formatted the sd and tested other devices \. so hey failed to repair.
I have now demanded a new one but asus still say only repair..
well i have owned the device for 5 months and they have had it for 3 month of that time......
not to mention they didn`t fix the issues it already had. even though claiming they replaced the board.
and i can see the keyboard has marks along the side as if the repairer couldn`t open it and damaged the plastic seals.
so i have escalated this and refused to repair a third time. i said send me a new one and i will send you my faulty one. otherwise i go to the fair trade for a complaint here.
Also several people on the forum have tricked themselves into believing this tablet is now great and no issues because they are using software better than the poorly delivered asus version.
yet when i read over their posts from the return from repair at asus they stated it still disconnects on occasions.
Well i`m sorry for being negative but while yes the device does have great specs and looks nice and should have been a top market seller, ASUS delivery of build quality destroyed any chance of that.
The lack of any dev except from 2 people shows just how poor this device is. compared to the tf700 which was terrible in io and had tons of people complaining yet it still received alot of development comparative to this device.
best of luck on your warranty adventures. lets hope Holland has more competent repairers than most other countries.
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Again and again, people never get tired..... I am using stock, with no problem... and I do not have to say it everytime someone has a problem. For the 10000000000000000000 time, unlike those who have a problem, those who dont will not post!!!! Regarding the development.. it is called devlopment... what are you lookinf for to develop? And if you think that developing is lacking because of the problems the tablet has, have a look on the samsung note2014... except if you think it has too, problems!
Rikodu said:
Again and again, people never get tired..... I am using stock, with no problem... and I do not have to say it everytime someone has a problem. For the 10000000000000000000 time, unlike those who have a problem, those who dont will not post!!!! Regarding the development.. it is called devlopment... what are you lookinf for to develop? And if you think that developing is lacking because of the problems the tablet has, have a look on the samsung note2014... except if you think it has too, problems!
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+1 :angel:
Thanks guys for your opinions.
I have had the device back now for 2-3 days and it is charging continuously, the orange light never changes to green.
The changes of the device after the diagnose are so noticable that I am just wondering:
-did I get my device back or another one?
-did they replace my display for a broken one?
-did they remove or exchange the battery while they had it open?
As the device has no serial on the outside any of the above are possible.
Does any of You have an email from Asus where I could inform about what happened, before the device is even send to Holland again.
Edit: Even one more difference. If I connect it through USB with my PC and use Volume-Down + Power to switch it one, the PC is recognizing, installing a driver and comes back with ASUS Android Bootloader Interface (Device driver software installed successfully)
For the pro's, is there any way I could get to 'talk to the device' and see its content?
Over the weekend I am to try to connect through HDMI if I can see inside.
Regards,
Ruud
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Should I buy it? Savable or trash?

Good evening friends!
I'm on the hunt for a new smartphone and found something interesting in eBay.
Please give me your opinion on if I should bid on this device, or not!
It's the 128GB 6GB RAM variant in quite good condition.
The seller states that
Android 10 installation couldn't be completed.
The installation process stops after a short time
Device reboots by itself
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Also that
WIFI and mobile data are not available
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And
Device is not unlocked
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I've read that on one hand that it's hardware/soldering issue,
and on the other hand that it might be just a software/firmware issue.
I've lots of experience in flashing all kinds of phones, including the Xiaomi Note 7 Pro (probably) of a friend.
So given I can unlock the bootloader and something can be done in software, I'm pretty sure I could do it.
Also I probably could open the device up and try to fix the mainboard.
Has anyone ever tried reflowing the mainboard?
Otherwise maybe I could replace the mainboard, if financially viable.
So please tell me if I should bid on it, and how much you reckon it might be worth!
Thank you very much and have a nice weekend!
My advice is to get a working phone. Instead of one where u have to repair. A working mi 8 is not expensive nowadays

Question Device dead?

Hi,
my device does not power on neither is detect when plugged via USB or when plugged to charger.
I've already tried holding power button, power button + vol UP/down and nothing happens.
It had 60% of charge when it happened.
Now I'm just waiting to the battery completely dies to try to charge it again.
Or is there another command to reset it ?
Thanks
Try a hard reboot, hold power button for 10-15 seconds or disconnect the battery.
blackhawk said:
Try a hard reboot, hold power button for 10-15 seconds or disconnect the battery.
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Just tried. Didn't work.
zopostyle said:
Just tried. Didn't work.
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Hardware failure. Maybe the battery, the C port pcb, a loose connector or the mobo, in roughly that order.
Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
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Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
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May just be the battery. Any swelling is a failure but may fail without swelling. Older, degraded batteries are more likely to fail.
Try inspecting the ribbon cable jack pins. Simply detaching them then reattaching them is all it takes.
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Yeah, I'm started to think about hardware failure.
I disassembled it, everthing seems fine though. But the main board, memory and so I have no way to check it.
Thanks
So I'm giving up.... Leave it to spare parts, try to sell it as that....
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You took it apart?? What about RMA? Doubt you'll be able to send it in now.
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You took it apart?? What about RMA? Doubt you'll be able to send it in now.
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Yeah if under warranty put it together and send it in.
There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
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There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
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I thought that was the case, but I should have asked you that first. If you can't find the problem try taking it to a local repair shop. It may not be as bad as it seems. Could be a bad C port pcb which are cheap.
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There is no RMA for me as I live in Brazil. With the cost to send it back it`s cheaper and faster to get a new one.
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That can't be true...they should pay for shipping and if not it's not going to cost more than £800 to send it there is it??
I cannot believe that to be true at all.
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That can't be true...they should pay for shipping and if not it's not going to cost more than £800 to send it there is it??
I cannot believe that to be true at all.
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It will be close. Here in Brazil we have to pay taxes and import fees. So if I sent it it will cost (doing conversion) around 45usd shipping,+ 10 for insurance.
Then to get it back is about 60% of the product price to import it back + the service to get it fix.
So buying a new one it better, but I've already decided not buying OnePlus again the lack of tools to let us manage the phone was the real issue here... And also all the posts that users getting their phones bricked, even with beta android 13, how a company release something that a user can't go back in an easy way?
Sorry but OnePlus was nice, now it's just company and less users..
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It will be close. Here in Brazil we have to pay taxes and import fees. So if I sent it it will cost (doing conversion) around 45usd shipping,+ 10 for insurance.
Then to get it back is about 60% of the product price to import it back + the service to get it fix.
So buying a new one it better, but I've already decided not buying OnePlus again the lack of tools to let us manage the phone was the real issue here... And also all the posts that users getting their phones bricked, even with beta android 13, how a company release something that a user can't go back in an easy way?
Sorry but OnePlus was nice, now it's just company and less users..
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That's insane, I feel for you.. Maybe there's a way to skip to another location in order to reduce the price
And I agree. This will be my last OnePlus device for sure. I was toying with the idea of getting the nothing phone. Slower SOC but it looks amazing all the same
Just got the device in EDL mode. Now just need to find the full image for NE2213 in OPS format that is the one that MSM Tool needs. Anyone has any ideia ?
PS: Already tried to use the decrypt and encrypt tool to generate but I don't have the correct settings.xml file for this device.
And now I found out that V2.0.67 or V3 can read .ofp file...but those version require username/password.
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Just got the device in EDL mode. Now just need to find the full image for NE2213 in OPS format that is the one that MSM Tool needs. Anyone has any ideia ?
PS: Already tried to use the decrypt and encrypt tool to generate but I don't have the correct settings.xml file for this device.
And now I found out that V2.0.67 or V3 can read .ofp file...but those version require username/password.
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Msm tool is locked down. It requires a technicians username and password. It also requires a phone home.
There's one loser whos going around selling stolen credentials for Msm. Hate to say it, but that might be your best bet?
Thanks, but not gonna pay a cent... If people starts to pay then we'll never get the tool for free.
So I prefer to lose the device or just keep it stored until the tool is available.
For the time being I'm back to my mi 10t.
And if the time for the phone support ends, just going to buy Samsung or htc if they get back on business
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Thanks, but not gonna pay a cent... If people starts to pay then we'll never get the tool for free.
So I prefer to lose the device or just keep it stored until the tool is available.
For the time being I'm back to my mi 10t.
And if the time for the phone support ends, just going to buy Samsung or htc if they get back on business
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Admirable. Good luck with Samsung. Wish their bootloader's we're unlockable in the states. Otherwise I'd ditch oneplus too
Ph0nysk1nk said:
Admirable. Good luck with Samsung. Wish their bootloader's we're unlockable in the states. Otherwise I'd ditch oneplus too
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it is
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it is
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Now this... This is news to me. Able to elaborate on this a bit more? Every Samsung I've had the bootloader couldn't be unlocked. Even the U variants.
What magic tricks do you have?
Ph0nysk1nk said:
Now this... This is news to me. Able to elaborate on this a bit more? Every Samsung I've had the bootloader couldn't be unlocked. Even the U variants.
What magic tricks do you have?
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Don't but the locked variant

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