I have a moto droid which is no longer active with Verizon(that $30 a month was getting to be a bit much) and would like to use google voice to make calls. On install, it gives an option to use google voice for calls, but when I actually try to make one it routes me to Verizon's "we're sorry, this phone isn't in service" message.
I understand that this isn't really the intended use, but I can use google talk to make a call from my PC, why will it not let me use the same service from my droid. Is this a quirk of the device or a limitation from Verizon or google?
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast, if it makes a difference, though I have also tried with CM7 build 3 and CM 6.1.2.
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Ah, nevermind. I figured it out myself. This is not possible with google voice alone, but I grabbed Sipdroid off the market. When paired with a google voice account(set to ring to gtalk as well as any other phone numbers) works rather well as a wifi phone. There is a bit of a delay sometimes in making a call, but no serious problems. call quality is quite good.
Google finally updated Hangouts app and added new app Hangouts dialer that allows one to make regular phones calls using data.
Let's discuss Nexus 4 related experiences here.
Voice quality wise, this is the best quality among 10+ VOIP solutions. I have tried many in the last 2 years using N4. The quality is great on LTE 4g,
However, I noticed a slight more lag when doing an echo test at 909-390-0003 especially on LTE.
Another nice new feature is to voice call (not video call) to Hangouts contacts. This doesn't rely on PTSN (regular phone network) so the quality is superior.
Big fan of the product as well. Was going to hold onto Vonage as my long distance calling app, but they recently hiked the prices of their international rates for the country I was interested in, so I deleted the app entirely.
One question/area of interest
The thread listed here states that data consumption for the user was approximately 1.6MB/hr, whereas in my experiences, I encounter data consumption of approx. 690KB/s (25 times greater). Being I don’t talk a lot on the phone anyways, those numbers are not worrisome in the slightest to me, but I am curious what the reason could be for the discrepancy.
One potential theory that I have is that my calls were long distance perhaps? Calls routed overseas to a non-Google Hangout # requires larger data packets perhaps?
1.6 MB/hr is unrealistic low (just can't compress the stream that much). I recommend using WiFi for hangouts unless you have an unlimited plan.
Justin
It (google voice) is working fantastic for me! I could never get any of the other google voice apps from google or 3rd party vendors to work. Now it works awesome over my WiFi.
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The thread listed here states that data consumption for the user was approximately 1.6MB/hr, whereas in my experiences, I encounter data consumption of approx. 690KB/s (25 times greater). Being I don’t talk a lot on the phone anyways, those numbers are not worrisome in the slightest to me, but I am curious what the reason could be for the discrepancy.
One potential theory that I have is that my calls were long distance perhaps? Calls routed overseas to a non-Google Hangout # requires larger data packets perhaps?
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I made two calls over wifi totaling 9 minutes. Google settings measured hangouts data usage increasing by 2.8MB during those calls. FWIW. Twice I heard a slight momentary digitization of the other caller's voice lasting about a second each time.
I wonder if Google scales the audio quality based on the speed of your connection the way netflix/amazon automatically scales video quality. If you have a super fast connection, maybe they crank up quality. Maybe that digitization I heard wasn't a general issue, but a glitch while audio was readjusting bitrate, the way a video might fuzz for a second in between adjustments.
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I made two calls over wifi totaling 9 minutes. Google settings measured hangouts data usage increasing by 2.8MB during those calls. FWIW. Twice I heard a slight momentary digitization of the other caller's voice lasting about a second each time.
I wonder if Google scales the audio quality based on the speed of your connection the way netflix/amazon automatically scales video quality. If you have a super fast connection, maybe they crank up quality. Maybe that digitization I heard wasn't a general issue, but a glitch while audio was readjusting bitrate, the way a video might fuzz for a second in between adjustments.
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Now that I think about it, that is a feature of Google Hangout Video calls. You have to be in a call to be able to tweak the settings, but you have the option to alter the rate of data consumption through various tiers of video quality. It wouldn't be too far fetched to have something similar in the phone app related to voice I suppose.
Not too sure if that would explain my personal data consumption though. I was using a WiMax Router through FreedomPop which is 4G but it is no Google Fiber.
T-mo $30 plan + Nexus 4 + Hangouts + 4G LTE = bliss!
Just trying to see if its rom/kernel related or just a intitial kink with a new product.
But when I receive an incoming call to hangouts - after hitting accept I am experiencing a 3-5 second delay before I can actually talk or hear the other person.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Just trying to see if its rom/kernel related or just a intitial kink with a new product.
But when I receive an incoming call to hangouts - after hitting accept I am experiencing a 3-5 second delay before I can actually talk or hear the other person.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I've experienced a lag/freeze when I answer incoming calls as well. If I don't get it on like the first or second ring then the caller goes to voicemail as I wait for the lag to disappear. Hopefully it is something they fix in the future. Not a huge deal since I can still call people back for free with great quality.
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I've experienced a lag/freeze when I answer incoming calls as well. If I don't get it on like the first or second ring then the caller goes to voicemail as I wait for the lag to disappear. Hopefully it is something they fix in the future. Not a huge deal since I can still call people back for free with great quality.
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Oh ok thanks for the response - definitely not a deal breaker.. The call quality is great, I even had a conversation driving down the road doing 50.., was impressed.
I haven't taken an incoming call with it yet, but that sounds like the sort of issue that Google could and would likely address. You might look around for a bug report you can upvote. Or reviews of the app highlighting the issue.
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I made two calls over wifi totaling 9 minutes. Google settings measured hangouts data usage increasing by 2.8MB during those calls. FWIW. Twice I heard a slight momentary digitization of the other caller's voice lasting about a second each time.
I wonder if Google scales the audio quality based on the speed of your connection the way netflix/amazon automatically scales video quality. If you have a super fast connection, maybe they crank up quality. Maybe that digitization I heard wasn't a general issue, but a glitch while audio was readjusting bitrate, the way a video might fuzz for a second in between adjustments.
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Just as an update, today I called out again over the same wifi with a similar signal for 6 minutes and used 4.7MB. Whatever the cause (I'm not sure either), the data usage is highly variable. I wish we could at least cap it. Even with some paygo data, this could be cheaper than some paygo minutes... or not, depending on whether you're getting 0.3MB/min (2-3c/min at 7 to 10 cents per MB, typical mvno paygo data), 0.8MB/min (6-8c/min) or 40MB/min ($2.80-$4.00/min) like macallik reported.
This is certainly fine for either supplemental wifi use to slice down a bill a bit, or for use with generous data buckets like the much celebrated tmo package, but without the ability to control or cap the data rate, it's still a bit limited. With just that one tweak, I could see using it as a dedicated second line through hangouts, and even on a paygo account, you could save even when you weren't on wifi, and far moreso over wifi. It'd be like having a dual sim phone, but cheaper and with less account management hassle.
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Oh ok thanks for the response - definitely not a deal breaker.. The call quality is great, I even had a conversation driving down the road doing 50.., was impressed.
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Just thought about it. Did you/do you have call screening on when you used Google Voice previously? (Where you have to press '1' to answer an incoming call) That could be leading to the freezing as Hangouts attempts to get a button prompt from a feature that is no longer being used. I just disabled my call screening on the Google Voice website but haven't gotten any recent incoming calls to test my theory.
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Just thought about it. Did you/do you have call screening on when you used Google Voice previously? (Where you have to press '1' to answer an incoming call) That could be leading to the freezing as Hangouts attempts to get a button prompt from a feature that is no longer being used. I just disabled my call screening on the Google Voice website but haven't gotten any recent incoming calls to test my theory.
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Oh man I never knew that was a feature. What a pain in the ass, I've been living with it for a long time now...
As someone who has their number ported to gvoice, this is a great change. but, my phone rings twice, at the same time with two different ring tones by two dialers. It's confusing and annoying because each dialer tried to override the screen of the other one to get your attention.
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Oh man I never knew that was a feature. What a pain in the ass, I've been living with it for a long time now...
As someone who has their number ported to gvoice, this is a great change. but, my phone rings twice, at the same time with two different ring tones by two dialers. It's confusing and annoying because each dialer tried to override the screen of the other one to get your attention.
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That is also something you can change in the settings @ the Google voice website. Change the call forwarding portion. Mines is set to 'none' with no boxes checked but you might need to play around with it a bit (that's what she said)
Because my plan doesn't dock me for incoming calls I let the forwarding come in through the old mobile voice network. But outgoing calls are routed through my Hangouts dialer.
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That is also something you can change in the settings @ the Google voice website. Change the call forwarding portion. Mines is set to 'none' with no boxes checked but you might need to play around with it a bit (that's what she said)
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I' ve used here in brazil for the first time, over wifi, calling other state to a house number and the result was 15 minutes of calling and 10,43 mb used by hangouts.
An average 695 kbs/min. I think its not bad at all.
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Today i've called the same number and the conversation went for 37 minutes, using 25,71 mb of wifi data.
The average was 695 kb/min again , this means that an 0,1 Mbits/s conection should be good to make the call without hiccups. So even here in brazil with our poor 1 Mbits/s 3g we can use this service for good, thus saving a lot of money.
Hey guys, I had just purchased some credit to try hangouts in germany I have one slight problem though. My ID is hidden when calling someone, I have confirmed my number in the app itself, anything else to do?
Over the past week, calls made while I'm on wifi using both T-Mobile Wifi Calling or Skype have been choppy and every 5 seconds or so, the voice of the person on the other line goes in-and-out. I've tried on multiple wifi networks so it's not the network. I can't tell if it's related to Lollipop or not because I recently updated to that. Calls made when I'm out and using cell network have no issues.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Found out that another user is having the exact same problem. He posted a video on YouTube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2XXFyieDAg
Thanks
My wife and I are having the same problems. We also have complaints of voice echoes from whomever is calling. I hope T-Mobile fixes this.
fatduke720 said:
My wife and I are having the same problems. We also have complaints of voice echoes from whomever is calling. I hope T-Mobile fixes this.
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I also have the issue with the voice echoes occurring for the other callers! Do you think it could be related to any of the apps we have on our phones? I'm not sure what steps to take to rectify this issue because I don't think T-Mobile or HTC will be addressing this problem.
I was able to resolve the issues with phone calls by performing a master reset.
Regarding the echoes, I was able to circumvent the issue by lowering the volume and not speaking that loud.
I received an email from an HTC employee regarding my inquiry about the bug and was told to try disabling the Ok Google Detection set to "enabled on any screen" and it seems to have fixed the issue!! Let me know if this works for others as well. Not sure if those of you who have done a master reset re-enabled that setting or not, but perhaps you can try enabling it and see if the issue occurs again. Hopefully this can be patched by either HTC or the Google app itself can be fixed.
this is a a annoying glitch that has been happening as far back as android 10 update, i have been between miui stock and miui EU (current) but the issue is persistent. the only temporary fix is to keep erasing the apps data and then i can call and receive. i suspest its a android 10 permission glitch but i am unsure. i have already shot a email to facebook but i wanted to know of anyone here has that issue.
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this is a a annoying glitch that has been happening as far back as android 10 update, i have been between miui stock and miui EU (current) but the issue is persistent. the only temporary fix is to keep erasing the apps data and then i can call and receive. i suspest its a android 10 permission glitch but i am unsure. i have already shot a email to facebook but i wanted to know of anyone here has that issue.
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I don't think this has anything to do with the phone or the Android version. I would suspect that it has to do with voice com on LTE, much like VoLTE with ordinary phone calls. There is a special protokoll that is supposed to be in use for media sound as communication sound, IMS.
I once got an advice to install a Google system app from Play Stor by the name Carrier Services and this is supposed to help with IMS related communications like Voice over LTE. Best is to reboot the phone after installing this service.
This is just a suspicion not a solid, first hand experience as I have never had problems with calls on Facebook Messenger.
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I don't think this has anything to do with the phone or the Android version. I would suspect that it has to do with voice com on LTE, much like VoLTE with ordinary phone calls. There is a special protokoll that is supposed to be in use for media sound as communication sound, IMS.
I once got an advice to install a Google system app from Play Stor by the name Carrier Services and this is supposed to help with IMS related communications like Voice over LTE. Best is to reboot the phone after installing this service.
This is just a suspicion not a solid, first hand experience as I have never had problems with calls on Facebook Messenger.
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my carrier dosent support VOLTE
xdarkmario said:
my carrier dosent support VOLTE
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Sorry if I confused you by mentioning VoLTE! Facebook Messenger doesn't use VoLTE but it may still use IMS, the same communication protocol. So if I were you I would try to install Carrier Services by Google from the Play Store anyway, you have nothing to lose by doing this.