I booted to Pop Linux one time and Firefox has a big mouth - Linux

After I booted to Pop, and played for a minute or two to check it out, it's pretty slick, the UI, anyway - I opened Firefox on it - oof. I opened it specifically to check pi-hole to see what Pop was trying to hit - I knew it was something. It wasn't POp, though - it was firefox. Immediately firefox hit the following, which, no doubt included my IP address, system info, and likely some other stuff:
Facebook, Google, Amazon, Hotels (wtf), Twitter, YouTube and lots of Mozilla stuff.
All I did was open firefox and hit pi-hole - which is on my LAN, and firefox couldn't wait to be the town crier. Also, I missed scrot immediately.

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Google Chrome

Anyone else interested in this browser? It looks like it will kick ass and who knows they might make a mobile app for it...outside of Android.
Reading your post using it now.
I will give it a go, but I do like Firefox.
opera been ok for me 7 years now on pc
and a few on pda
I've been using it for about 30mins now, it has some quirks but overall speed is the fastest I have seen in a long time.
Check out the cartoon about it:
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
Just installed it on my HTC Shift, and it seems pretty good so far.
Regards,
Dave
Yea it is really fast. I like it.
Maybe in the future could be a good option, but now in Beta... I´ll stick to Opera.
There is no options to personalize, change color, etc, speed is good but not as good as they anounce
Don´t let go with Ads mates! Google want´s all the "Internet World", at least they have to pay us for that!!
Cheers,
it is fast though..but cant replace my Opera..no support for Emails so useless..but it has some fetures which makes it a lil nices
I've tried on my Acer One, and it works very fast, both to launch, and to open web pages. It is very low memory consuming, so i think it will be my preferred browser.
My problem with Opera is it's unstable nature with certain sites, especially older forums. Sometimes it can be a major PITA.
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
I have found a problem with Chrome and vBulletin boards like XDA.
It is incorrectly turning DST ON in Eastern Australia making all times out by an hour.
In
User Control Panel
Setting DST Correction option to [Always Off] works around the problem for now. Something amiss in the Chrome javascript engine perhaps?
Without making this change whenever I switch between IE or Chrome with a vBulletin board I get an auto DST update message. IE time is correct. Chrome is wrong.
Anyone else wee this?
You might want to check the EULA a little closer there. It is definitely a boilerplate with some wide ranging implications of they enforced it. It also has a number of bugs, such as a carpet bombing vulnerability right off the get go. Nice idea and if they were to put a decent EULA on it, I might use it.... In the mean time, I'll stick with SeaMonkey or Opera.
-Will
IM USING IT RIGHT NOW!!!
It PWNS!!!
The EULA agreement has already been debunked just check section 9.4....here is how another user explained it:
Actually this is pretty flawed. I know this was posted in MANY other places as well, and I can't write to the authors of ALL those posts, but here's where copypasta news and blog entries have their flaws.
If you read section 9.4 closely, you'll see what I mean:
9.4 Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content
That "limited license" it refers to is what has exploded onto the internet as a violation of rights, privacy, etc. Again, if you actually read section 11, you'll see that the limited license is only for the promotion of Chrome, and this only holds to things that aren't already covered under other rights, such as copyright or intellectual property. Basically, this boils down to: Google can use anything that is online to promote itself, if one of it's users accesses that site. Which, in all honesty, it could do anyway.
This doesn't violate anything. And if you're still scared of it, use Chromium, the active open source project without the EULA that Chrome is based on.
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As for bugs. I have noticed the DST bug, also it seems spell correction doesn't work on some boards I post on. Other then that it's the best browser I prefer.
Sledutah said:
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
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Edit:
I uninstalled it yesterday. After installation it was still trying to access the internet via GoogleUpdate. I went through the registry and there were tons of references to googleupdates and chrome. I deleted all of them and haven't had any more requests. Wow, don't think I'll even reinstall it in the future just for that.
Theres some kind of memory leak
Whenever i run it
My CPU usage shoots WAY UP
Its fast but dam should it be taxing my processor like that
Cool browser
I love it, been using it for about a week now LOL. But there is still a lot of work needs to be done!
Google Chrome is so much faster on many websites, especially on XDA-developers.com, where it is seconds faster when switching between pages in the forum.
And by using privoxy on newspapers, etc., you can get rid of those annoying ads with ease.

Google Chrome

Hey everyone,
What are your thoughts about the new browser?
Have you clicked the "make default" button?
How would you like to try one out on a mobile device?
Hello,
Chrome, by itself, is really good to use, initially i was not comfortable with the idea for google collecting data about my surfing habbits, but further reading suggests that almost all browsers do "call home" its not something that is really special with Chrome and defenitely not what some websites try to portray...
I am sure Google knows enough about my surfing habits without having the google toolbar and chrome installed
dammit, i just want to visit some sites which they won't know about....hmmm...maybe won't know about...
So, no "make default" yet, I'm eagerly trying out the new firefox 3.1 beta...
On the mob, yeah sure, 'cauz my mobile browsing is quite limited...
To make it clear, I, for one, have made the switch... Using Chrome as Default, there are still many areas they need to cover, but my biggest concern at the moment is Bookmarks. Firefox and Opera have great Sync features, Chrome has none. That's a real pain, considering the whole Cloud phylosophy which Google understands all too well..
Downloading is another area...
Being a big Google fan I'm prepared to live with this version, but not sure if it's ready for mainstream.
I imagined Chrome to be updated quite often, but that's not the case at all.
I'm definitely using Chrome full time. I've had to go back to Firefox a couple times for certain plugins (specifically media rippers, to pull FLV files off video sites) but hopefully Chrome will open up to third parties soon.
I think it´s too "Beta" now
Maybe in a couple of years could be a good candidate, but now still too young and limited.
I´ll stick to Opera meantime
Cheers,
I have been using Chrome every now n then but not 'default'. It does look promising but will take time to mature like Firefox 3. Firefox simply rocks.
Aparently they have this policy that everything you upload using google chrome is now considered theirs.. or so I've been told...
I enjoy a certain level of privacy. So....im sticking to FF on the PC (except when IE is required) and Opera on WM6.1+
@Mikeeey: Nope. They resolved that a while ago. They used a general TOS agreement that was pretty blanket and covered a number of services (to save on writing up different legal agreements every time). They forgot that the wording was sort of bad in this particular case and have since changed it. Everything you do under Chrome is yours, as expected.
@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
I really like Google products, but Chrome just doesn't cut it against FireFox or Maxthon. I've grown very accustomed to certain plug-ins and/or features in FireFox and Maxthon that I just can't part with.
I'm absolutely loving Chrome. So speedy.
Still lacks a couple of things I liked from FF, but I'm not going back.
/defaults it.
Oh - and regarding privacy - I figure Our-Googley-Overlords already know most of my browsing habits, seeing as I use Google to search for everything anyway.
make the switch. it will change your life.
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make the switch. it will change your life.
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Why you say this?
Can you extend your opinion please?
I've always hated FF and was an IE user.
I find Chrome screws up sometimes on streaming videos, but other than that, I use it all the time.
IE7 would crash on me daily, not any more. The ultimate browser for me would be some sort of Chrome-IE8 hybrid.
Willtastic said:
@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
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yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
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yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
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who don't?

The endless irritation of automatic logout...

Sick of it.
I open a tab for xda-developers and leave it to load, log in, browse for a while, and go away to make a coffee, sort an issue for a colleague, play Teeter, whatever, and I'm logged out.
How can I stop this? I know it's only a small issue, but when it's every time I come to download a file, view a picture, post a comment, it becomes tiresome.
I supose that you always click the "remember me" button right?
Strange issue, I never had that on my Opera browser...
Just enable "remember me" button on your browser, then try again.
Remember me won't work; I don't keep a persistent cache (even for cookies).
I understand why a bank would have a session timeout measured in minutes, but a mobile phone forum? Seems like overkill...!
if you have firefox you could try password manager addons (i use sxipper)
most have autologon features (i think)
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Sick of it.
I open a tab for xda-developers and leave it to load, log in, browse for a while, and go away to make a coffee, sort an issue for a colleague, play Teeter, whatever, and I'm logged out.
How can I stop this? I know it's only a small issue, but when it's every time I come to download a file, view a picture, post a comment, it becomes tiresome.
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I agree with you totally. I've never seen this on any site apart from sites where cash transactions are involved. Why do we have to get auto logged out. It's so annoying
buachaille said:
I agree with you totally. I've never seen this on any site apart from sites where cash transactions are involved. Why do we have to get auto logged out. It's so annoying
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+1 Sooo annoying!
Noob either use cookies or stop QQing
Nothing to do with cookies. I have cookies enabled and get logged out while sitting here on the site. Like the OP said, I open a new tab and look around for a min on another site. Then go back to the xda tab and am frequently logged out. I am using Firefox also. And the fact that this is the only site that it happens on tells me its something on the site, not our settings. I frequent a good number of forums, and it doesn't happen elsewhere.
BUMP! This is still a problem, even when I check "Remember me".
What's the big idea? Why isn't this configurable? Not even 10 minutes and I'm logged out - I can barely make a full post without have to log in twice.
My new habit of copying everything I just wrote to the clipboard before posting, on top of being tedious, really shouldn't be necessary.
Stop using Internet Explorer, update Firefox, enable cookies, don't try to be a security freak using programs like CCcleaner often. Haven't had that problem on my mac with chrome, but I do have it happen on my computer at school, but that's because all of the settings are cleared every time I log off.
I'm thinking that site owners don't care that this behaviour annoys people, which is a shame - as it's profoundly irritating!
Another site I use a lot, which used to leave you logged in, has just started to do this too. Does it save on server load or something?
Didntt ever happen with me, and i use different versions of chrome on various platforms, alongwith firefox, am logged in always
on my dreambox for some reason the user or password has been changed from default and i cant figure it out.
buachaille said:
I'm thinking that site owners don't care that this behaviour annoys people, which is a shame - as it's profoundly irritating!
Another site I use a lot, which used to leave you logged in, has just started to do this too. Does it save on server load or something?
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Yes, it reduces the size of the session table, keeping the site a little faster.
It's a necessary evil unfortunately. Why not allow the single cookie storing session and the "remember me" password hash?
Am pissed off with this too...
I use ie9 and firefox (latest) with default settings. The site logs me off in a few mins.
Never happened to me in the past.. and am a regular user.
I use remember password too but still annoying.
Same problem here on latest chrome. Though it is not so much frequent.

Can I get this feature in Chrome which is in firefox? See screenshot

Hello,
Firefox is not a bad browser, but I think Chrome is better. Firefox uses more resources and even though I have an SSD I still think it starts slow, Chrome lauching faster then Firefox, on a HDD you will see the difference better.
But on my SSD I noticed the difference to. I still use firefox because off that little arrow in the url bar which lets me go to webpages I visit often. Chrome has something like that but you need open a new tab for it.
But I like the way firefox lets me visit webpages fast better, as I not need open a new tab for it.
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No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
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No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
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Takes me at least one whole second.....
Then again, I'm getting old and aren't as quick as I used to be....
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
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Well Chrome is certainly fast, but adding a new tab when I have no reason to that is not the way I wish to work.
So in Chrome i need put the adress in the adress balk, but with firefox I just get a list with most visit sites.
Just start typing part of the address, eg. facebook, twitter etc. and Chrome will fill in the rest for you. Okay it's not a dropdown, but it's as quick once you're used to it, if not quicker.
How about just typing this : chrome://history/
PS: Not every browser has same features. But I just want to say the Autocomplete feature in Chrome is awesome. To get that in Firefox, we should edit some Firefox settings (values?).
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Just start typing part of the address, eg. facebook, twitter etc. and Chrome will fill in the rest for you. Okay it's not a dropdown, but it's as quick once you're used to it, if not quicker.
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That works ofcourse to, but that is something Firefox can do to.
The dropdown is more like most visited websites, Chrome takes another approach in that and will show you thumbnails with most visit websites if you open a new tab.
Right now I still keep using firefox as webbrowser, but its much heavier then chrome, but it works good for me.
coolsandie said:
How about just typing this : chrome://history/
PS: Not every browser has same features. But I just want to say the Autocomplete feature in Chrome is awesome. To get that in Firefox, we should edit some Firefox settings (values?).
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I use Chrome mostly in incognito mode because with chrome you can surf incognito and on same time also use the normall mode in another window. I think Chrome is very good browser I just keep using firefox for the normall browser most time.
But I think firing up a chrome right after I logged into Windows will be faster then firing up firefox.
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I use Chrome mostly in incognito mode because with chrome you can surf incognito and on same time also use the normall mode in another window. I think Chrome is very good browser I just keep using firefox for the normall browser most time.
But I think firing up a chrome right after I logged into Windows will be faster then firing up firefox.
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But what if, Firefox is used in private browsing mode .. does the visited sites (in private browse mode) show up in drop down menu ?
And yeah, in Chrome you can browse with 2 modes. But not in Firefox I guess.
Can I get this feature in Chrome which is in firefox?
There are lots of the features of Mozilla Firefox that differentiate from other web browsers such as Web Explorer. Firefox depends on the extension technique to permit users to alter the browser according to their requirements in lieu of providing all features in the standard distribution.

[APP][NST/G] Google(ish) News

5-31-21 I've ceased development on this app because I think there is a better alternative. See post #7.
*updated to version 1.3, adding error trap for discontinued or blank feeds*
It's been awhile since the demise of the last working version of Genie Widget (aka Google News and Weather) but not so long since the big G retooled news.google.com so that our browsers can no longer deal with it and also put the kibosh on the Google News RSS feeds. Sigh.
I have a work-around
Google News 1.3 for the NST/G exploits the "alerts" that Google offers on news topics. These alerts can be optioned in the form of RSS feeds. My app downloads the HTML source for the feed, picks out all the good stuff and trashes all the rest, then builds up a local HTML document which is easily displayed by our browsers (I highly recommend Opera Mobile for ease of scrolling and general all-around function). You can build up your own topics, change your mind, mix them about, read that one more story you didn't get to the first time around, etc. I'm not saying that your browser will negotiate every target link. Some newspaper sites have just become too much. That was true even when Genie Widget was still working. But updating Opera Mobile for TLS 1.2 solves much of that. See this post for details.. The beauty of this app is in the simplicity. It's entirely browser-based once the feeds are downloaded, so you're not going back and forth between the app and your browser (like the current Google News app.......). Designed for both portrait and landscape.
Requirements
1. Android 2.1 has a security issue with opening local HTML files. In order for Google News to work properly you need to address that. Included in the zip below is a tiny app, android-open-in-browser-0.0.4-4-debug. Install that. It's not my app but I have used it for years and wish I could credit the originator.
2. This is a Tasker-generated app. If you already have one of my other Tasker-generated apps or have previously installed GApps, you don't need the two Google maps library files included in the zip and can delete them. If you do need them, copy the two files into the locations shown below:
/system/etc/permissions/com.google.android.maps.xml
/system/framework/com.google.android.maps.jar
Set permissions for both files to rw-r--r-- and reboot. Without these files resident, the app will not install.
3. Create a folder in the root directory of your sdcard: Google News (exactly as shown)
4. Install the app itself, Google News.1.apk
How to use
Before you run the app you need to select some news categories, set up the feeds, get the URLs, blah-blah-blah. All of this is covered in the PDF included with the zip. It may seem a little annoying at the start, but it goes quickly once you get started and it's not like you have to do it every time you use the app. You're just setting up your news topics, just as if you were using the current Google News (either the app or the web version). Once you have your topics and URLs and have edited the included text file google_rss_feeds.txt, copy that into the Google News folder of your sdcard.
Note: recently (June 2019) the big G has not been very consistent with the RSS feeds. Some days they are "empty" but come back the next day with lots of stories. Some feed topics simply "die" and a minor change in the topic will resurrect them (change "World" to "World news", as an example). Version 1.3 includes a trap for these eventualities so that the app should not crash, even if your first feed comes up empty. To inspect/edit your feeds, point your browser (on your PC) to your Google Alerts page. If you are signed in this will be found among the options on the Google home page, in the upper right corner where the "apps" grid is shown.
Now you're good to go. Start the app, make sure you're connected to WiFi. There are only three buttons on the app screen. The first one, "Fetch the news" does just that. You will see a little toast that the first news category is being prepared. Once that is done, you will be taken to the browser and that page will open. Meanwhile the remaining pages are being downloaded and reconstructed in the background.
The news page is very simple. I tried to aim for readability over all other considerations (this is the reason the news items are in bold black, even though they are the external links). I have my Opera Mobile set to 100% page zoom. It looks good to me, but you could probably get away with 75%. External websites are another matter. At the title bar left is a drop-down menu button that gives you access to your other news topics. Since no fixed navbar schemes work under Android 2.1, there is a duplicate drop-up menu bar at the end of the page. The use of NoRefresh, or to a lesser extent FastMode, is a plus.
Edit: you cannot use this app with Opera Mini. It lacks the ability to open local HTML files.
The second option on the opening screen, "Read old news" sounds a bit daft, but I just thought maybe someone might have been looking at the topic pages, saw something that interested them and then got interrupted. So this option opens the first local file in the browser again and you can navigate from there. Strictly speaking, WiFi is not needed to browse the local files once they have been created, but it is needed to pursue any stories.
The third option simply dismisses the app screen.
Whew! So this is new...and I think I exterminated all the bugs, but I did not try other browsers. I'm open to suggestions and would appreciate feedback.
Google alert change? No option for RSS alerts anymore...
First off, thanks so much for putting the time and effort into this app. I would love to have a more "future-proof" news reader solution for my NST. Sadly however, in typical Google fashion of constantly dropping/messing with feature support, it seems that there is no longer an option to deliver Google alerts to RSS feeds (only email addresses). If I'm reading this thread and your PDF correctly, I'm worried that this may break the app. In any case I'm stuck on page 3 of your setup PDF since I can't figure out how to get the RSS alert string from Google anymore. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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First off, thanks so much for putting the time and effort into this app. I would love to have a more "future-proof" news reader solution for my NST. Sadly however, in typical Google fashion of constantly dropping/messing with feature support, it seems that there is no longer an option to deliver Google alerts to RSS feeds (only email addresses). If I'm reading this thread and your PDF correctly, I'm worried that this may break the app. In any case I'm stuck on page 3 of your setup PDF since I can't figure out how to get the RSS alert string from Google anymore. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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I'm away from home right now but my copy of the app is working so the RSS feeds must still exist. I'll have to sit down with my instructions in front of the computer and see what mischief they've done. Thanks for letting me know.
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If I'm reading this thread and your PDF correctly, I'm worried that this may break the app. In any case I'm stuck on page 3 of your setup PDF since I can't figure out how to get the RSS alert string from Google anymore. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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OK, so I've run through the instructions sitting at my PC. Everything is correct although Firefox no longer wants to open the RSS feed page as anything other than an xml "text" file. That just means the image on page 4 needs updating.
As far as page 3, everything is currently exactly as shown. Just to be sure, you have to be signed in to Google on your browser before you do any of this. Then when you get to the screen depicted on page 3 you need to change the "Deliver to" option to RSS feed. But even before that, it's important not to get sucked into the email alert business back on page 2. Do NOT click on "Create Alert" there, only on "Show options". That's how you get to the screen I show on page 3.
When you finally get to click on the little RSS symbol shown on the lower half of page 3, you (at least on Firefox) may end up at a page of xml code, or perhaps your browser may show a news feed page. Regardless, the URL shown for the page is the same and it's what you need to copy, just as described on page 4.
Let me know if you are still having issues with this.
v619284 said:
First off, thanks so much for putting the time and effort into this app. I would love to have a more "future-proof" news reader solution for my NST. Sadly however, in typical Google fashion of constantly dropping/messing with feature support, it seems that there is no longer an option to deliver Google alerts to RSS feeds (only email addresses). If I'm reading this thread and your PDF correctly, I'm worried that this may break the app. In any case I'm stuck on page 3 of your setup PDF since I can't figure out how to get the RSS alert string from Google anymore. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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So a few days after I wrote my last post, the app stopped working for me. It just hangs on "Preparing......News"
Google has apparently changed the format of their RSS xml file. Right in the middle of something else at the moment, but I will get it fixed.
Nope, nix that. After fooling around with the app and an xml file from the Big G, I find nothing out of place and it seems the app is now working again
They're just messing with us.
Edit: Indeed they are. Today I caught another malfunction but this time looked at the Tasker routines for an error. Google is sending out (at least today) RSS feeds with empty content fields. That messes up my app. So I wrote an error trap for that. Updated in first post. Have to watch the big G like a hawk....
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If I'm reading this thread and your PDF correctly, I'm worried that this may break the app. In any case I'm stuck on page 3 of your setup PDF since I can't figure out how to get the RSS alert string from Google anymore. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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Whilst looking around for a solution to a different issue, I came across this: https://medium.com/@cassandragraft/...tion-not-appearing-heres-the-fix-bf842ca32b88
It appears to address the issue you describe. I never encountered the issue, but obviously some people have.
The Big G is making me very angry lately. Even version 1.2 with a new error trap is crashing. I'm finding that some of my feeds are "empty". The skeleton of the RSS file is there but there is no content populating the file. A category as ordinary as "world" is simply blank. This is new and very annoying. Just a change of topic to "world news" brings up a list of stories longer than your arm. I encountered this before with "science" and fixed it with a slight change in name, so I should have seen this coming. It's a nasty game Google seems to be playing....
Anyway, if the app crashes on the first topic it leaves an overlay artifact behind when you exit. To remove this, go to the App Manager and force stop the app. I will work on a fix which will alert you to the effect that the feed appears dead but allow the app to complete the download of whatever is still working and exit properly.
Grr....
Edit: App updated to v1.3 in first post. I hope that solves the problems. For now.
As I mentioned in my edit of the first post, I think my app is exhibiting creakiness already owing to Opera Mobile's increasing difficulty negotiating many websites.
I have an alternative to suggest, however, that is totally browser based. It seems to work "OK" with Opera Mobile although text display is a bit small with a default zoom of 100%. In Opera Mini, however, it shines, especially with NoRefresh.
Thanks to XDA member @SJT75 , I found out about a list of text-only news sites. One of them is a text version of Google News! The list is at: https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-text-only-new-sites/
While the Google News option does not allow for custom categories (hey, there's an app for that!), it does cover all the usual suspects. Even better, all of the links lead to text-only versions of the sources. Occasionally you go to a page and find it could not be fetched by whatever mechanism the author is using, but pages (even those error ones) include a link to the original source
Also notable on the list are the NPR and CNN sites. Both work well.

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