I like to get a Moto G (2014) in the China version (XT1079) because I am often in China, I am on China mobile, and they use TD-SCDMA (which my iPhone doesn't support, so it's terribly slow). Of course now you say "get Unicom" - but I like to keep my SIM number and in China you can't transfer numbers.
Currently it sells for RMB999 ($160) on the Motorola Website in China.
I hope a merciful XT1079 owner can help with my questions:
1. Can I switch to English at all?
2. China Android is as far as I know Google free, so can I install the common Goggle services? Mainly the Playstore that is, and get other Apps from there.
3. Does the China Android even support VPN?
4. In case I need to root to get a 'normal' Android - will it still support TD-SCDMA?
Moto G XT1079 Q&A
I have a Moto G 1079 i bought it in march when it was 1299 from jingdong
The following info may be outdated and without deep research. I did all this in april so there may be updates now which you can research prior buying.
But all in all i recommend not buying the Moto G that Lenovo messed up really reallybad. I dont recommend. Instead maybe buy a Xiaomi device. I recommend the Mi Note dual sim dual network support especially China Mobile and other 4G
The questions with ur answers. Good luck i reallywished lenovo didnt mess up this great device
1. Of course you can change the system language to english
2. Lenovo installed their own app store and security app that won't let you install anything unless you root, which really is a shame because Moto G is an excellent device.
3. If you root u can install anything and thus astrill or any other vpn app is still usable. The VPN settings are still available nontheless
4. If you root which is a painfull process that needs Motorolla's approval email and stuff. I did all that it and it still works 4G China Mobile no problem.
P.S. when i was researching there was rumours that a GB rom or brazil Rom was possible to flash but when i tried it China Mobile wasnt usable. Maybe the new images and updates have fixed this issue
Good luck
Please let me know if you find anything. Basically im stuck with a really bad 90% stable rooted Moto G thats works hahaha
I have recently purchased a Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Plus. I did not understand how intertwined the Chinese language would be on this device. I knew some apps would be in Chinese and that I could either uninstall or disable them. However I was unaware that Chinese would be incorporated throughout the system despite my selection of English as a setup language. I am sorry that I cannot read Chinese (I wish I could!). I realize the tablet is made in China but so was my last phone (Huawei) and no Chinese on it. What do I have to do to translate this on the pad? If it has to be rooted then it's going back to the company with a long note.
Unlock, then install Global ROM
colossus1958 said:
I have recently purchased a Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Plus. I did not understand how intertwined the Chinese language would be on this device. I knew some apps would be in Chinese and that I could either uninstall or disable them. However I was unaware that Chinese would be incorporated throughout the system despite my selection of English as a setup language. I am sorry that I cannot read Chinese (I wish I could!). I realize the tablet is made in China but so was my last phone (Huawei) and no Chinese on it. What do I have to do to translate this on the pad? If it has to be rooted then it's going back to the company with a long note.
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No root required, but Unlock yes.
Go through Unlock procedure (incl. 30 days wait), then install the Global ROM (https://xiaomi.eu/community/). This has proper translations and no Chinese native Bloatware.
Thank you for the quick response. I only seem to have one further problem. When I get to that website, how do I find what I'm looking for? Am I downloading the new MIUI 10? That wasn't quite what I was expecting if so.
If it were me (and it was since I also have one) I'd flash https://download.pixelexperience.org/treble_gsi/
It brings the device back in line with "traditional" interfaces we're used to in North America.
It's going to be far more complicated than rooting, but well worth it in my opinion.
Even deleting everything I could that was Chinese off the stock ROM didn't fix all the Chinese.
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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I dislike MIUI as you. Nevertheless i use Xiaomi phones since 4 years. I use the developer rom (weekly) from Xiaomi.eu in combination with nova launcher. I like the multiple options (extras) of the rom based of latest android, the removed ads and bloadware and their grandiose community/ forums for the rom and the phones.
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-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Wellcome to the club
You are on the righ place.
Here you can learn how to customize the hell out of your device. I also use "Nova" launcher and that makes experience so much better for the start. And I apply "viral" custom icon theme pack across all of the apps.
In time developers will start releasing custom roms here that are maybe for your needs and likes. So just be patient and you will fall in love in Xiaomi and the device. No need to return it, it a good device that will just become better in the near future with upcoming updates. There is a 12.5 update coming sometime in April which will have much improvement in many segments.
Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
xdamami said:
Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
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I can understand this question after buy. If somebody is not knowing Miui and bought an xiaomi, chinese one, that could be a shock.
-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Ciao compa'
Coming from a Pixel 4XL and yes: devastating.
Using Nova Launcher or installing Xiaomi.eu will solve none of the problems that you are having. Actually Xiaomi.eu, even if based on 12.5, may make experience worts since you'll get Xiaomi apps for browser, dialer, contacts etc. Although Xiaomi.eu does not have the notification problems that you, me and everyone else with a EU Android 11 ROM is having, also on Mi10T phones.
If you contact me via pm I can try to provide some hints to ease the pain...
Hi, everyone!
Is there a way to run GMS on a (obviously Chinese) Mate 40 Pro Plus, preferably natively without using any virtual machine?
I was searching for an answer on the forum but I just can't find a definitive answer. I have seen comments about it being possible on Chinese versions of the Mate 40 Pro (and Plus) but I can't tell if it's true and can't find any tutorials on how to make it happen.
I would be very thankful if anyone could help me.
Thanks a lot!
Hey mate,
I don't have a Mate 40 Pro+, however, from what I read, it should be possible on Chinese variants. How? Well, apparently the LZPlay which allows to install Google services only works on Chinese variants. It used to work on devices like global Huawei P40 series, but on OLDER firmware. Kinda got out of topic here, but I just wanted to explain a bit.
Not a fan of this guy's videos
But if you follow the steps he showed, you should have GMS working on your Mate 40 Pro+. Again, I do not have this device, so I can't test it myself, but according to many people's experiences online, LZPlay, or in this case, "OurPlay" does work on Chinese variants of Huawei phones. Not sure if you gotta downgrade to a specific firmware, but probably not.
To people reading this: if I am wrong at any point in my post, feel free to point it out.
See:
[Update: Launched in India] Vivo's flagship X70 series sports upgraded cameras, bigger batteries, and newer chips
Vivo today unveiled the new Vivo X70 series, featuring three new flagship devices. Read on to learn all about the new phones.
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Vivo X70 Pro+ First Impressions: Flagship Cameras to watch out for
The Vivo X70 Pro+ is Vivo's latest flagship with one of the most versatile camera setups. Here are our initial impressions of the device.
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how can I flash Funtouch OS on the China variant of Vivo X70 Pro Plus, please?
It's not possibile.
I can't seem to find video bokeh mode on my X70 PRO PLUS.But most of the video on YouTube showed it's possible. What am I missing ! Also my phone is running most recent version of OS.
@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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I have PD2145F_EX_A_3.11.8_vivo_qcom_LA.UM.9.14.r1-12600-LAHAINA-sm7325-sm8350_split.tar
But I can’t get my phone into EDL
I tried AFTOOL 5.3.50 and he said I need a newer version
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@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
Kotin89 said:
Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
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Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
Killuminati91 said:
Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
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Looks like same as yours !
Hey guys, has the Indian version Funtouch OS with support of Czech language? Is it possible to use that phone in EU without any limitations? Thank you for answers.
are there owners of the Indian version? Can you copy the dialer?
there is a free program
ADB AppControl - 4PDA
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Je voudrais acheter le téléphone en version indienne. Sur quel site puis je le trouver ?
I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
Gnaius said:
I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I buy my X70 Pro+ from Giztop eshop. No problems, the phone arrived in Ireland in about two weeks. No Custom payes. But I paid a lot, more than 900 €. Normally I always order from Tradingshenzen, but at that time they only had the most expensive version in stock. Today they are all available and 8 + 256 costs a great 827 €. With duty-free transport.
When unpacked from the box, it was already in the Google Play Store phone and the default English. Of course, there is bloatware (which mobile manufacturer doesn't?). Some Vivo applications are going to uninstall. The problem with Vivo apps is that they are 99% of the content is Chinese and I haven't found a way to change that. Actually, I'm not even interested, they just are there and I don't use them.
Origin OS settings are more difficult to understand. It took me a few days / hours to figure out how to allow various permissions and notifications for Google Play apps. The only problem still persists and that is that the phone does not notify me of received FB Messenger messages. In the settings, you can even click on the options "Default App Settings" and change Google applications to make calls for those from Vivo, etc. It's just still an Android OS. and the superstructure is inspired by MIUI and Oxygen OS for me. Google Assistant works when you press the microphone icon on the Google Taskbar, unfortunately it is written "currently unavailable on this device" for voice activation settings.
You don't need a Chinese phone number. You can create an account on the Vivo website via email and then log in to your phone with a password
@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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Yes, these languages are in the official China Version of Origin OS. Few European languages.
I didn't seen nobody who can confirm languages inside India Funtouch OS
PS: Its actually my first phone with china version OS. And first Vivo and other BBK Electronics phone brands.
X70 Pro+ I choose because these great rated cameras. Its great experience for me. I worked before only with only Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones
I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
houmer56 said:
I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
maxant69 said:
Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
houmer56 said:
I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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As far as I know, Android Auto doesn't work in any Android 11 phone if it is not a system app. Will see what is changed with Android 12 which has again different approach (through Assistant).
And the battery life is good.