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I have two PC's, one is a XP Media Center Edition. It had a virus on it and kept getting a corrupt file, so my techyish relative came and wiped the hard drive from scratch ( or so he says but it was a partial wipe) and reloaded the OS onto it. It worked fine, but then kept getting the corrupt file again. I then decided to order the recovery disks from HP, which is the computer manufactuer. They arrived and I put them in, followed the steps, and all wen well until I came to the recovery partition. It was backing everything up ( one time process only) into the recovery partition all fine and dandy until it came to a file that had to do with Microsoft Office. It stayed their for about 45 minutes backing up this file where the longest had been 10 minutes max for all the others. I looked the file up and it said it was a small 10 mb file, so I turned the computer off and went to normal without the recovery partition. Worked fine until one day something happened and I guess I needed to do the recovery again (it's been a few months since this has happened) and did all the steps, but it wouldn't take. It gets to about 4% and then dies with a BSOD and this message:
A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
DATA_KERNAL_INPAGE_ERROR
If this is the first time you’ve seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:
Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows updates you might need.
If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode.
Technical information:
*** STOP: 0x0000007A (0xE121F318, 0xC0000185, 0xBF8B6147, 0x1C610860)
*** win32k.sys – Address BF8B6147 base at BF800000, Datestamp 3b7de698
Copied it down word for word, space for space. Can anyone help me get this thing up and running again? It's now getting important.
Forgot to mention that I get the same problem each time I put the recovery disk in.
I'd recommend using a NON-Recovery Disk, but rather a Clean, Non-OEM, Windows Disk. If the issue pertains to the Kernal, it's usually unfixable without a Hard Boot of the Drive. You should do more than Re-Format.. you should delete all the partitions off of your Hard Drive with a Windows Disk, then pop in the Recovery Disks and do the OEM install.
So I need to wipe the hard drive clean again and put in another non OEM OS?
Not quite. Wipe the HDD clean with the NON-OEM Windows Disk, as most Recovery Disks do not allow you to alter the Partitions [Everything is done for you], then pop in your Recovery Disk and let it install the new Primary, and possibly the Recovery, Drives.
I see what your saying now, so what exactly happened to it?
Get Windows 7
I have windows 7, that's my other computer.
The guy at the un paso store got you too!!
At the step store? Lol.
PurpleLlamaLover said:
I see what your saying now, so what exactly happened to it?
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When your supposed "Tech Savvy" friend attempted to fix your computer.. he, I'm assuming, did a simple "Repair" of the partition with an XP Disc. That is LITERALLY the most unwanted version of a fix ever... All it does is replace the system files, but keeps all of the other software that may have been conflicting with the system itself, BUT usually, all of the software is inaccessible. It's still on your computer, f*cking it up, but you can't see it.
Thus I always say, "If you get a bluescreen... more than once, and don't know what the code means... don't repair your computer.. re-format that b*tch after recreating the partitions."
But, if your XP compy has the specs to support Windows 7, your best bet, all in all, would be to install Windows 7. Doing so will save you the hassle of having to manually download all of the drivers for it... unlike installing a non OEM Windows XP [have to download & install the drivers manually].
PurpleLlamaLover
it sounds like the HP recovery disk could well be corrupt,
So you now have 3 options:
1. Try Linux Ubunut 10.4 LTS (Free Distro)
2. Buy a ligit copy of Windows 7
3. Download Windows Vista / 7 / XP from a torrent
and try untill you find a OS you lyk
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When your supposed "Tech Savvy" friend attempted to fix your computer.. he, I'm assuming, did a simple "Repair" of the partition with an XP Disc. That is LITERALLY the most unwanted version of a fix ever... All it does is replace the system files, but keeps all of the other software that may have been conflicting with the system itself, BUT usually, all of the software is inaccessible. It's still on your computer, f*cking it up, but you can't see it.
Thus I always say, "If you get a bluescreen... more than once, and don't know what the code means... don't repair your computer.. re-format that b*tch after recreating the partitions."
But, if your XP compy has the specs to support Windows 7, your best bet, all in all, would be to install Windows 7. Doing so will save you the hassle of having to manually download all of the drivers for it... unlike installing a non OEM Windows XP [have to download & install the drivers manually].
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I'll try and get 7 for it. It was the last of the XP models, just before vista so i'd think it should be able to run 7. Think I need a new hard drive?
Bro that Simon_WM guys a genius. Listen to him.
Yea. This is my computer here, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3257746&lang=en#N1030
Think it'll run it?
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Yea. This is my computer here, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3257746&lang=en#N1030
Think it'll run it?
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it may run with a lag
I just want it back up and running, I don't want vista though. On the little windows sticker is says "Vista Capable" but i've heard bad things about it, especially rom updating.
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I just want it back up and running, I don't want vista though. On the little windows sticker is says "Vista Capable" but i've heard bad things about it, especially rom updating.
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ummm i use vista and have updated all my win mo phones on it...never had a problem
Really? Well, i'll keep in mind if I can't get XP back on it. I'd rather just have 7 and XP. I don't care what it runs as long as it runs again.
the best suggestion in this thread was install linux , however i take it that isn't a possibility. so here's what you need to do, you will require the following:
1) a fresh mind
2) a freshly burned copy of XPwhateverflavoryouwant
3) you do not care about anything on that drive.
put in freshly burned xp into computer, boot to cd drive, follow onscreen instructions, delete all partitions, create new NTFS partition, install to new partition.
if error comes back, it is not a software issue. fixing a xp bsod really is simple if it isnt hardware related.
Hi everyone
I have an Asus laptop and I would like to reset it to factory settings (like wipe data in android) so all programs and settings I have made will be deleted. I dont want to reinstall windows I just want to delete all programs and reset settings so the computer will be like when I bought it Is there anyway to do this on windows7 and if its possible - how to do it?
Lol that doesn't exist really in Windows itself. Or you need to go back to state it was in when you bought it by using the recovery.
i agree with tomsteel1, the only way is to reinstall windows, i did this and backed up everything before i reinstalled windows.
Tap f9 during startup. That should load the recovery partition.
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I've owned many laptops over the years, and have yet to come across a laptop that will not do what is called "Full Destructive Factory Reset."
All user added software and files are whipped clean, and the system reverts back to the way it was shipped from the factory.
For HP it's under all programs>system recovery>PC Recovery and then follow instructions.
For Lenovo there is a special "Think Vantage" blue button that you press during boot-up, AND you can also access the recovery program from "all programs." Every manufacture offers these Factory recovery programs, and sometimes they vary slightly as to how they're implemented, but they all do the same thing. (don't confuse Microsoft Windows Restore operations with Full Factory restore operations)
If you no longer have the owners manual for your laptop, which will tell you how to perform a Full Factory Restore Operation, just google your Asus model # and Full Factory Restore, or go to the Asus Support Website, and you shall prevail.
Edit: If this was not the type of restore operation you were looking for, the previous outlined steps will also list all available options.
TravisBean said:
I've owned many laptops over the years, and have yet to come accross a laptop that will not do what is called "Full Destructive Factory Reset."
All user added software and files are whiped clean, and the system reverts back to the way it was shipped from the factory.
For HP it's under all programs>system recovery>PC Recovery and then follow instructions.
For Lenovo there is a special "Think Vantage" blue button that you press during boot-up, AND you can also acess the recovery program from "all programs." Every manufactuar offers these Factory recovery programs, and sometimes they varry slightly as to how they're implimented, but they all do the same thing. (don't confuse Microsoft Windows Restore operations with Full Factory restore operations)
If you no longer have the owners manual for your laptop which will tell you how to perform a Full Factory Restore Operation, just google your Asus model # and Full Factory Restore, or go to the Asus Support Website, and you shall prevail.
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Looks like you didn't own enough lol. I've seen many laptops without it.
As to how to do it, when the computer turns on, and you get the first screen and look at the bottom. It might say something along the lines of "Press F# for system recovery". If it doesn't boot into windows, and check if you have a recovery partition. Right click My Computer->Manage->Disk Management, and check if you have a partition called recovery.
jaszek said:
Looks like you didn't own enough lol. I've seen many laptops without it.
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Must have been before my time. Unless his Asus is ancient, their support website and/or his owners manual will give explicit step by step instructions for performing all restore operations.
I dont have the recovery partition. I only have system reserved, C:, and two unnamed partitions (70 and 4 GB) I think they are for ubuntu since I also have ubuntu installed so I dont even have normal startup but only asus screen then OS select and then "starting windows" screen. The manual says that there should be a recovery partition but probably previous owner deleted it (I am 2nd owner). s there any hope for me to get computer back in original state? And if I reinstall windows will I still be able to get programs that were originally installed on it (turbo33, fingerprint unlock, power4gear hybrid...)?
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I dont have the recovery partition. I only have system reserved, C:, and two unnamed partitions (70 and 4 GB) I think they are for ubuntu since I also have ubuntu installed so I dont even have normal startup but only asus screen then OS select and then "starting windows" screen. The manual says that there should be a recovery partition but probably previous owner deleted it (I am 2nd owner). s there any hope for me to get computer back in original state? And if I reinstall windows will I still be able to get programs that were originally installed on it (turbo33, fingerprint unlock, power4gear hybrid...)?
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Ahhh, then they removed the recovery partition. You will need to use a windows CD (download it, it's legal) and use the key from the sticker on the bottom of the laptop. Than download all the drivers from Asus support website, and the might have all the programs (bloatware) there to download as well. If you don't have another computer, download the drivers before doing anything and keep them on a flash drive. Once you reinstall you might not have the LAN/WiFi drivers installed.
There may still be hope, try bashing "F11" on startup and see if you get to a recovery console, your 4gb partition could still be the recovery partition, if you want to explore it you can right click on my computer -> manage -> disk management -> click on the partition and click change drive letters and paths -> add a drive letter.
If this is completely useless then as the person above said (However the legality of obtaining an installation disk is questionable, also be careful with whether you are downloading an OEM version or RETAIL version, as your key is specific!) you can simply re-install windows and visit the asus site, punching in your model number from the bottom of the laptop !
The other 2 partitions are ext4 and are for linux so no recovery partition If I decide to format and install windows I download from somwhere will I be able to use original serial for activation? Because I see a lot of people have troubles activating (illegal) windows...
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The other 2 partitions are ext4 and are for linux so no recovery partition If I decide to format and install windows I download from somwhere will I be able to use original serial for activation? Because I see a lot of people have troubles activating (illegal) windows...
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as long as u haven't activated 3 times, u should be fine
editi guess sdcard is incorrect/confusing for my situation, it's the entire system up to root folders is stuck in a read-only type state.
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
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CyanogenMod version:
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Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
plasticsoldier said:
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected] #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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I would suggest trying to restore down to WebOS 3.0. In that procedure you literally wipe EVERYTHING on the internal partitions in novaterm and start from absolute scratch. Therefore, if it a software issue you could solve the problem. However, if it is a hardware issue, you'd be kinda screwed.
Yeah, none of the methods I've ended up finding about this problem or other bricked problems are working at all.
i checked at work when i bought it, which of course the 11th was the year mark... but I do have android installed so even if i can get any chance of them honouring it so close they'll probably be like "oh you have android, that'll be $$$ for us to do anything. thanks!"
So I guess I now I have a paperweight with some features.
cdzo72 said:
I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
There is a thread in the General forum about how to restore and downgrade. Have you tried that thread ? It is usually a great way to try and get that last restore before sending it back to HP.
73 de VE6AY
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android? which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions? have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to? it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard? are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android? have you run "fix permissions"? Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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cdzo72 said:
They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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Thanks for the answer, this would tend to suggest that the problem is software based corrupted or otherwise. I am trying to find a program that will allow me to read/format the Android partition on my windows computer and will let you know if come up with anything.
Regards
i guess i should change the title slightly.. it's not sdcard, but basically the entire touchpad contents. go to root and delete whatever i want and it doesn't matter. connect it and format with windows and it doesn't actually matter.
haxin said:
how are you adding and deleting files when in android?
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i've added and deleted just by using mtp. i've also deleted the files on the android side with the video player (vplayer) i've installed es file explorer (which after restart is gone) and deleted with that. i've also gone into webos and installed internalz pro and deleted files that way, which it then seems to work until i of course do anything related to restarting.
some of the files i've put on, i've had it recognize briefly. so for the video file, start it, then it gets really choppy/glitchy playing it. so stop it, go back into the vplayer and it's back to the old stuff
which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions?
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android version 4.0.3. nothing else will install. if i add files while in android, when i boot into cwm they are gone. if i mount usb in cwm and add them they stay briefly but when i try to flash them they fail.
have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to?
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i have not tried adb yet, just not as familiar using it properly, i will give it a try though.
i am using windows 7 on my laptop currently. i do have a pc upstairs that i barely use that has vista, but i don't know how that would make a difference to the touchpad
it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard?
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yeah as i put above i guess saying sdcard was a bit confusing/misleading (my bad, sorry!), i didn't really know what else to call it at the time or how to explain myself properly at first.
are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android?
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i can move/delete/modify anything which has absolutely no effect to the device. i've used es file explorer and gone up to root and deleted everything and the system runs fine. says the system is empty with lots of free space (its the 32gb model) but restart or even go into recovery and everything is once again there.
have you run "fix permissions"?
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i've run it a few times. just acts likes it's working and then says done. i've even gone into the mounts and storage in cwm and formatted sdcard/cache/data/system. does nothing at all in the end of things
Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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it was just something to try to get somewhere right. it never gets past 12%. always fails to reboot.
I am currently letting the battery drain and see if it dying and then being charged will do anything. probably not. but who knows. i talked to a "tech" on the chat support (i never mentioned android) who told me that having preware installed in webos causing it to become corrupt and they "don't knowledge of preware installed devices" exact words. no idea what that means haha don't have knowledge, don't acknowledge...
anyhow. i've not quite given up. i just don't really see it turning out any differently from the previous times. i do appreciate all the feedback and help very much though
ok so heres what I would try. First try flashing a new fresh rom. download one that you want to your computer like cm9 nightly or aokp or whatever you feel like. then boot into CWM recovery connect the touchpad to the computer via usb. then connect to the touchpad with adb. I'm not sure how to do this in windows because it's been so long since I've done it on a windows box, I always use linux.
adb has alot of options, you can move files to and from the device, you can uninstall or install app packages, and more. this way you can adb push the rom .zip to the touchpad's sdcard while youre in cwm recovery. this way you dont have to reboot the touchpad and risk having the file disappear, you can just go to 'install zip from sdcard' and then 'choose zip from sdcard' in cwm recovery after you adb push the rom, you should see it in the folder you pushed it to on the sdcard.
If you arent familiar with how to use adb from the command line or the terminal this might not make alot of sense and i dont know how better to explain it than that. Also yes windows 7 vs windows vista does make a difference there are issues with novacom installing properly, that's why you would have problems running acmeuninstaller or acmeinstaller2. if you look around you should find some videos or how to's that can probably explain it better. Hope this helps.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_with_Windows_7
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed-5.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
ve6ay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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Before you attempt the step above I have just noticed a difference between between cwm and. TWRP2.2 which I have installed on my Touchpad via goo manager. If I open recovery via goo manager and then select wipe it gives me 4 options cache, davlik, factory reset AND system which i think says will remove your rom . I don't see the forth option available with the regular cwm/clockwork. Just a thought.
All the best with whatever you try next.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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this would work, however you have to fix you novacom/novaterm issues on your windows machine before you'll be able to do any of this. the reason acmeuninstaller, acmeinstaller2 arent working is likely because youre on a windows7 64bit box and Palm-sdk, the novacomd.exe, noverm.exe, and javaruntime apps and drivers arent setup right. just make sure you have the proper javaupdates on your computer then you can install preware in webos, preware has some nice tools that will delete the entire android install partitions, one is called 'remove android' and the other is called 'tailor' you run them from within webos. after you do that then in webos you should do a full device reset. you'll find it in the "info" tab under settings in webos. this will delete and reformat the whole /media ,(aka sdcard) partition. so you will lose all the files you have stored on both webos and android. that format will take a long time probably like 30 min or more. after thats done. reboot the hp and run webosdoctor. now i know for sure this will work because ive done it on mine. remember to put the touchpad in developer mode in webos first to install preware. you can do that by typing webos20090606 into the webos search bar and hitting enter. I'll put links from my box.com accou t to everything you need.
https://www.box.com/s/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
https://www.box.com/s/1aed4722990aad251570
edit: also I'm not sure if youre on the 16gig 32gig or 64gig pad, the webosdoctor that i linked is for 32gig wifi only US version. if thats not what you have then youll need to get the doctor for for specific touchpad. or you could create a webosmetadoctor but thats a whole nother project.
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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ok no one will be able to help you fix this issue unless you give complete details of the problems. when you say " novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work" we cant really help specific error details is what i need. I dont mind helping you fix this but you have to be a little more specific on exactly what,where, and how youre installing and running and mounting apps and directories.
your problem IS fixable but you need to slow down and really do things exactly step by step.
Ok so back to ./adb. now when you boot in to CWM recovery on he touchpad DONT do anything in CWM just plug it into the computer. do not mount it as a usb storage and dont mount or unmount the sd partition LEAVE IT.
you can then use ./adb from the command line or terminal on the computer to move the files to the touchpad' or install apk's uninstall apk's you name it. This will require that you know some linux terminal commands. for example to move a new rom zip to the internal sd card or into any other folder you can use ./adb push command to run a root shell on the android device itself you can use ./adb shell and then change folder and file properties from readonly to rw. this can all be done while the touchpad is patiently waitng in CWM recovery. this way when youre done installing or uninstalling apps from the device and moving flash zips to it, you can disconnect the .adb connection with ./adb disconnect or just type exit from the terminal till it closes. unplug it then you will be able to pick up the touchpad and install zip from the sdcard, keep in mind you dont want to choose 'apply u[date from sdcard' you want to use the 'install zip from sdcard option' you can read up more on how adb works. it is probally the most important part of hacking android.
with that being said. novaterm is the palm webos version of .adb. this is why when you boot into webos recovery to do things like acmeinstaller and acmeuninstaller2 the novaterm novacom and novacomd apps have to be installed correctly on the computer or else you wont be going anywhere fast. some screenshot examples of how it should appear below.
https://www.box.com/s/432e63a83215f00eea6a
https://www.box.com/s/970bc29542a05f98f036
https://www.box.com/s/63c0f656e8354f7f2d6a
https://www.box.com/s/cbe3266467ae8e3ebabe
https://www.box.com/s/005e56a61a178dd17fa4 some better resolution images.
Plasticsoldier said
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
Yes there is
Firstly tailor does exist, it is a beta and the facility to dl must be enabled.
Read this and scroll down to Enabling beta test feeds and follow the instructions , when you get as far as using the Linux command you CAN copy and paste thank God.
http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds?wasRedirected=true . After that reboot into Webos and launch preware. Go into managed feeds as per the instructions in the link above and install Tailor. Reboot again and the app will work. It looks very good actually.
But before attempting to actually use Tailor please read the article I have posted below it is only 7 pages long but will explain how to use Taylor properly as it is a powerful tool.
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...partition-filesystem-editor-beta-testing.html
I have done all of this , this morning so if you have any problems pm me or ask in this thread.
I sincerely hope that this helps, it should be the answer to your problems.
@haxin: sorry, wasn't trying to be unhelpful when everyone is being helpful to me. I shall be more detailed in future responses. I think i was getting frustrated and had had a busy exhausting day so it didn't help me come across clearly/properly.
OK, so I had preware installed already, so I removed it, went into developer mode, used the linux commands, reinstalled preware, added Tailor.
(i've done this a few times, because I didn't remove the cable after doing the linux commands for preware, then i accidentally hit the wrong buttons and it connected to 'usb drive' mode and wouldn't connect on the pc side and got stuck on the "ow disconnected me properly next time" screen).
So it gives me the following options
USB (media)
Android (system)
Android (cache)
Android (data)
Unused Space
the 'usb media' starts mounted and will mount again if unmounted. If I use 'check filesystem' it'll pass. So then I try 'delete partition' which pretends to delete, then it takes me to the unused partition which is still at 16mb. so i try to use "check filesystem' again and it fails. try repair and it fails as well
I've tried mounting the android parts just to see, they just sit there processing that they are trying to mount. trying to delete or anything else fails as well.
and now after trying things, any of the 'cards' will try to open and just sit there grey. and with my usb cable not plugged in it still is giving me the option to enter usb drive mode. and with this i have to restart and go through the steps again of adding Tailor which is getting tedious.
I restarted, went through the motions to get back to Tailor. trying out resizing just to see how that goes. So far 15%. not sure what will happen when done, but we will see.
This is getting long, so i'll end this part and update on anything and also try to familiarize myself with adb a tad more
Hello, recently purchased a asus tf701t laptop/tablet hyrbid and the device itself is perfect. Powerful cpu, good storage and an insane 2k resolution for a 10' inch screen which I don't think has been done before.
However I absolutely hate android (no offense to android developers) and decided to try installing Linux Mint 17 which can be installed on any regular laptop easily. Essentially, I want to get rid of both android bootloader and the OS itself and replace that with Grub bootloader and Linux Mint 17 OS. But android is fighting me every step of the way trying to prevent me from doing just that I unlocked the bootloader so my warrenty is void now.
But beyond that I can't install linux iso because the android bootloader isn't registering the usb stick (with linux iso on it) so I can't launch the linux live iso at all. I tried using cdrom iso using disk to launch through usb and still doesn't come up in the bootloader options. I know its possible to use linux on these devices because I've seen people have done it before on the internet.
I am now at this point starting to consider android itself as malware as the very definition of the word, ....lets start with the fact that they locked the bootloader, prompting me to give ip address just to enable me to unlock the bootloader (malicious and very dodgy). No root access therefore, third party programs are required to enable root which further my belief that android os is more malware than it is a legitimate operating system. Lastly, either possibly no usb driver for bootloader or usb port is locked out by design at bootloader (either way, might explain why I can't use usb linux iso).
What I can't understand is, why google can lock down a device tighter than fort knox on a Asus brand device. This is like buying a brand new car and not being able to open your own car even though you purchased it. What google has done is borderline illegal and I'm abit astonished how they can get away with it...
Sorry for the rant guys I'm abit fustrated atm. Can anyone please help me? I really love linux mint and if its possible to format android and install linux mint on this device I would be eternally grateful
Update: I attempted to flash the device with the command: fastboot -i 0x0B05 flash recovery recovery.img which works...but when I reboot and push power and down volume into bootloader...and try to get into recovery...the screen looks like its about to load into it but then resumes boot of android.
I'm really puzzled by this. So cannot flash a custom recovery for some strange reason
Its not so simple I dont think. You might want to watch whats happening on this thread for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf701/general/native-linux-asus-tf701t-t2973119
I would think you would have to completely replace the bootloader with something like uboot maybe if you wanted to wipe the tablet. But I dont think anyone knows. Then you could end up with some permanent brick. There would be no recovery or fastboot option if you were somehow able to get some kind of boot loader on this thing. I have no idea.
Edit: Also there is no arm based Linux Mint afiak.
YayYouFixedIt said:
Its not so simple I dont think. You might want to watch whats happening on this thread for now.
I would think you would have to completely replace the bootloader with something like uboot maybe if you wanted to wipe the tablet. But I dont think anyone knows. Then you could end up with some permanent brick. There would be no recovery or fastboot option if you were somehow able to get some kind of boot loader on this thing. I have no idea.
Edit: Also there is no arm based Linux Mint afiak.
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Thanks I appreciate the reply. I understand this won't be easy but I'm stubborn that way
Can you give me some advice on where I can start learning how to place a native linux os on the device? Would grub bootloader work with tf701t?
have you considered returning your tf701 and replacing it with the tf700 infinity? you can replace the OS with ubuntu.. theres much more support for that model than the tf701
tf701mega said:
have you considered returning your tf701 and replacing it with the tf700 infinity? you can replace the OS with ubuntu.. theres much more support for that model than the tf701
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Out of curiosity, have you used the tf700t? it is good for development, but it could run pretty slow at times. It might of been because of the tegra 3 processor, because the tf300t also had this performance issue. I was barely able to type up documents on a CM Rom because the tablet would lag when typing out and would then force close and corrupt my document.
atleast for me, that was the reason why I went with this one rather than the tf700t. This is just my 2 cents about getting the tf700t. I would suggest trying it out before getting it.
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Just how stubborn are you?
How much work do you want to put into this? There are two options, the easy route that you probably will consider imperfect, and the much more complicated route that I'm not certain will work. I'll do my best to explain both.
The method I use is to install a linux distro (in my case, ubuntu) inside a chroot. There are several apps on the android market to help you set this up. The one I used sets up an Xvnc server, so you can view your linux desktop by using an android VNC viewer -- but it's just connecting locally, not going over the network.
This works nicely out of the box, but it's slow, partly because it's using the VNC protocol and partly because there's no 2d hardware acceleration. I tinkered with my setup and installed XSDL, a native android X server with hardware acceleration. I had to modify the linux startup script to skip starting Xvnc and instead connect to XSDL (which is on :0.0 like a normal X server).
This works great and is fairly fast. For me, this is a good compromise between a full-fledged linux laptop and the convenience of android apps written specifically for a multitouch screen. I generally do most of my stuff in Android, but I can drop into my Ubuntu desktop whenever I need more power.
The really big downside is that it's hard to prevent Android's low-memory killer from sacrificing XSDL when I haven't used it for awhile. I've mucked about with various solutions involving oom_score_adj and such, and that helps, but android still ends up killing my X server sometimes.
So, that's the easy method. For the more complicated method, I'm just theorizing, and this stuff may not work. You're going to need to either already have somewhat deep linux knowledge or be willing to learn Here goes.
In this post, I described how I managed to boot my tf701t after the internal memory card died a horrible death. The important bit here is that I learned how to boot any initrd/kernel combination using fastboot, and how to roll that combination into a boot.img so that the tablet always boots it. This is what you'll need to do both for the installation and for future boots into your Linux install.
First off, choose your Linux distro. I don't think you'll be able to use Mint, since, as someone pointed out above, there's no ARM build of Mint. However, there is an ARM build of Debian and Mint has the "debian edition", so maybe there is an ARM version. It may be, though, that the Mint folks only built their special stuff (Cinnamon/mate/whatever) for x86 platforms. I'd recommend Ubuntu as a compromise since I know it runs on the tf701t.
For the initial installation, put the contents of the install ISO onto an SD card -- just copying your bootable USB drive over should work. Now for the tricky bit: you'll need to pull the kernel and initrd ("ramdisk", "initial ramdisk" -- usually initrd-<something>.gz) off of the usb drive and into a working directory on a Linux laptop or desktop (let's call it the "host"). You might get away with just fastbooting this kernel/ramdisk directly. Install the fastboot package for your distro (Ubuntu has one, anyway). Connect up your tablet, put it in fastboot mode (I think that's done by booting with volume up and down held) and do 'fastboot boot <your kernel> <your ramdisk>'.
This will boot the kernel and load up the initrd, which is a tiny little linux filesystem stored in memory. The kernel runs a program called init inside the ramdisk and init takes over and boots into the actual installer. The question in my mind is how it goes about finding the ISO contents. If it searches by filesystem UUID, and there's a good chance that it does, then it will find your the ISO contents on the SD card just fine and the installer will start up.
If not, well, things will get a lot more complicated. Normally what one would do in a case like this would be to pass kernel command-line arguments (you do this in the SYSLINUX bootloader for distros like Ubuntu) telling it where to find the installation media. We can't do that because fastboot doesn't let you pass command-line arguments. Instead, you'd need to extract the initrd on the Host machine, modify the init script in some way to tell it where to find the installation media (probably /dev/block/mmcblk1p1), and then repackage it. I went into somewhat shallow detail on how to do the extract/repackage parts of this, but this is where either prior linux knowledge or a willingness to do some research comes in. Hints: gunzip the initrd, then use the cpio tool to extract it.
Okay, so let's say that you get the installer booting. The next big question is whether it's going to work at all. In theory the graphics chip inside the tf701t is supported by linux, but in practice, maybe it's only supported by a kernel module that Samsung built. Maybe you'd need to substitute the stock kernel. The next question is whether X has a module that will work with the graphics chip. But maybe even if it doesn't you can use a text-mode installer. That would at least let you get a system installed that you could then hack on to try to get X running.
So, let's say you do get linux installed (probably onto the internal SD card, /dev/block/mmcblk0). Now you want to boot it. You'll need to look into the installed system and steal its kernel and ramdisk, and get them onto the Host machine. Or maybe you could just extract them from the debian packages, since I'm not sure how you'd get things off of that internal SD at this stage. As a hint, these may well NOT be the same kernel/initrd as in the installer.
Once you've got the kernel/ramdisk, you can try to boot into them with fastboot. If that works (big if), then you'll want to be able to boot them without fastboot. That's where the 'fastboot flash:raw' command comes in. It takes a kernel/ramdisk, builds an android boot.img out of them, and flashes it to the device. From then on, the device will boot that kernel and ramdisk by default.
So, in theory this could work. The biggest potential stumbling block is whether X is going to natively support the graphics chip. If it doesn't, you may be stuck using the basic framebuffer driver, or maybe that won't even work at all. ...or you could just settle for the chroot method and be done with it
Good luck. I'm very interested to hear whether this works. I'm probably not going to try it myself since I like Android enough that I want to keep it around. I also can't walk you through this in finer detail because of external limits on my time, but I'd be happy to answer theoretical questions and specific technical questions, so long as you're willing to do the legwork of reading manpages and such I hope this works out for you!
Oh, one thing just occurred to me: skip the part in the installer about installing grub. It's not going to work on this device and may cause problems. You'll take care of the bootloader part yourself with the fastboot flash:raw command.
Oh, I see there's already some decent progress in this thread. Also it looks like I totally missed the -c option in fastboot that lets you pass kernel command-line arguments... that'll definitely be a time-saver. Given what I see over in that thread, it looks like we may actually get a reasonable native linux on our TF701t. Not sure how far the OP has gotten on things like mouse/keyboard input, though.
I have to say, I'm pretty excited! It'd be super cool to be able to dual-boot native linux and android on this tablet. Best of both worlds.
lexelby said:
How much work do you want to put into this? There are two options, the easy route that you probably will consider imperfect, and the much more complicated route that I'm not certain will work. I'll do my best to explain both.
The method I use is to install a linux distro (in my case, ubuntu) inside a chroot. There are several apps on the android market to help you set this up. The one I used sets up an Xvnc server, so you can view your linux desktop by using an android VNC viewer -- but it's just connecting locally, not going over the network.
This works nicely out of the box, but it's slow, partly because it's using the VNC protocol and partly because there's no 2d hardware acceleration. I tinkered with my setup and installed XSDL, a native android X server with hardware acceleration. I had to modify the linux startup script to skip starting Xvnc and instead connect to XSDL (which is on :0.0 like a normal X server).
This works great and is fairly fast. For me, this is a good compromise between a full-fledged linux laptop and the convenience of android apps written specifically for a multitouch screen. I generally do most of my stuff in Android, but I can drop into my Ubuntu desktop whenever I need more power.
The really big downside is that it's hard to prevent Android's low-memory killer from sacrificing XSDL when I haven't used it for awhile. I've mucked about with various solutions involving oom_score_adj and such, and that helps, but android still ends up killing my X server sometimes.
So, that's the easy method. For the more complicated method, I'm just theorizing, and this stuff may not work. You're going to need to either already have somewhat deep linux knowledge or be willing to learn Here goes.
In this post, I described how I managed to boot my tf701t after the internal memory card died a horrible death. The important bit here is that I learned how to boot any initrd/kernel combination using fastboot, and how to roll that combination into a boot.img so that the tablet always boots it. This is what you'll need to do both for the installation and for future boots into your Linux install.
First off, choose your Linux distro. I don't think you'll be able to use Mint, since, as someone pointed out above, there's no ARM build of Mint. However, there is an ARM build of Debian and Mint has the "debian edition", so maybe there is an ARM version. It may be, though, that the Mint folks only built their special stuff (Cinnamon/mate/whatever) for x86 platforms. I'd recommend Ubuntu as a compromise since I know it runs on the tf701t.
For the initial installation, put the contents of the install ISO onto an SD card -- just copying your bootable USB drive over should work. Now for the tricky bit: you'll need to pull the kernel and initrd ("ramdisk", "initial ramdisk" -- usually initrd-<something>.gz) off of the usb drive and into a working directory on a Linux laptop or desktop (let's call it the "host"). You might get away with just fastbooting this kernel/ramdisk directly. Install the fastboot package for your distro (Ubuntu has one, anyway). Connect up your tablet, put it in fastboot mode (I think that's done by booting with volume up and down held) and do 'fastboot boot <your kernel> <your ramdisk>'.
This will boot the kernel and load up the initrd, which is a tiny little linux filesystem stored in memory. The kernel runs a program called init inside the ramdisk and init takes over and boots into the actual installer. The question in my mind is how it goes about finding the ISO contents. If it searches by filesystem UUID, and there's a good chance that it does, then it will find your the ISO contents on the SD card just fine and the installer will start up.
If not, well, things will get a lot more complicated. Normally what one would do in a case like this would be to pass kernel command-line arguments (you do this in the SYSLINUX bootloader for distros like Ubuntu) telling it where to find the installation media. We can't do that because fastboot doesn't let you pass command-line arguments. Instead, you'd need to extract the initrd on the Host machine, modify the init script in some way to tell it where to find the installation media (probably /dev/block/mmcblk1p1), and then repackage it. I went into somewhat shallow detail on how to do the extract/repackage parts of this, but this is where either prior linux knowledge or a willingness to do some research comes in. Hints: gunzip the initrd, then use the cpio tool to extract it.
Okay, so let's say that you get the installer booting. The next big question is whether it's going to work at all. In theory the graphics chip inside the tf701t is supported by linux, but in practice, maybe it's only supported by a kernel module that Samsung built. Maybe you'd need to substitute the stock kernel. The next question is whether X has a module that will work with the graphics chip. But maybe even if it doesn't you can use a text-mode installer. That would at least let you get a system installed that you could then hack on to try to get X running.
So, let's say you do get linux installed (probably onto the internal SD card, /dev/block/mmcblk0). Now you want to boot it. You'll need to look into the installed system and steal its kernel and ramdisk, and get them onto the Host machine. Or maybe you could just extract them from the debian packages, since I'm not sure how you'd get things off of that internal SD at this stage. As a hint, these may well NOT be the same kernel/initrd as in the installer.
Once you've got the kernel/ramdisk, you can try to boot into them with fastboot. If that works (big if), then you'll want to be able to boot them without fastboot. That's where the 'fastboot flash:raw' command comes in. It takes a kernel/ramdisk, builds an android boot.img out of them, and flashes it to the device. From then on, the device will boot that kernel and ramdisk by default.
So, in theory this could work. The biggest potential stumbling block is whether X is going to natively support the graphics chip. If it doesn't, you may be stuck using the basic framebuffer driver, or maybe that won't even work at all. ...or you could just settle for the chroot method and be done with it
Good luck. I'm very interested to hear whether this works. I'm probably not going to try it myself since I like Android enough that I want to keep it around. I also can't walk you through this in finer detail because of external limits on my time, but I'd be happy to answer theoretical questions and specific technical questions, so long as you're willing to do the legwork of reading manpages and such I hope this works out for you!
Oh, one thing just occurred to me: skip the part in the installer about installing grub. It's not going to work on this device and may cause problems. You'll take care of the bootloader part yourself with the fastboot flash:raw command.
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Very stubborn
Sorry I didn't respond sooner as I was away with family for Christmas.
Thank you for the guide, it was extremely helpful. I am still working on getting the device ready so I'll update as I progress.
Thanks again
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
jamesking420 said:
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
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You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
DoubleStuff said:
You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
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Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
jamesking420 said:
Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
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I am curious to what install process you have used to install the Dirty Unicorn Pie? Please respond, its nice to see what install processes some users are using....like what speed of Universal swap settings did you install?, did you use ROM reducer?
In the meantime since you have Novacom and TPTB installed try this process to install maybe Nougat, Oreo or Pie ( with /swap ) or KitKat or Lollipop. Once you read the OP it will direct you to the key Android versions to install on HP_TOUCHPAD's page.
I currently use KitKat and I am fine with that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
jamesking420 said:
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
You don't have to do a Complete Data Reset anymore with the TPToolbox if your going to run TPTB_WireAll_TWRP_02_win.bat or flash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition, it almost seems like your combining three different methods of installs, because TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat actually flashes Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition in the background and that actually does a complete data reset and creates a 500 Mb swap partition, and re-creates the system, cache, media and data partitions with sizes of 2200 Mb, 200 Mb, 500 Mb, and "rest of memory" respectively, also automatically installs version 3.2.1-0 of TWRP which is required for the other ZIPs.
Only use TPToolbox to flash A6 firmware, or look at partition sizes.
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
How are you copying zips to your touchpad if your PC does not work? Once you
flashed Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition it should get you to a
TWRP Recovery install screen, and you can then flash your zips, no need to use TPToolbox as I said before. Essentially TPToolbox is an "old school" method now. And flashing from TWRP Recovery you don't need compatible zips, that is a bug of TP Toolbox that has not been fixed.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
I am curious, even if we point you to a set of such files, how are you going to copy them from a broken PC?, and see above for another way of doing this than from TPToolbox, if you can get into TWRP recovery and have zips on your Touchpad your all set.
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
Your PIE version above is the latest version, good. But the TWRP 2.8.3 version above is "old school" we are currently at this version FLINTMAN-TWRP-3.2.1-0-03-15-2018, and like I said above the "Wipe All" methods automatically install this latest TWRP version, so no need to flash an "old school" TWRP's afterwords.
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I made comments above in blue. Here is my summary.
Because your PC broke, like you said "blue screen of death, RAM corruption". This is the very reason that @HP_TOUCHPAD is thinking "outside the box" trying to create an environment that users will not be dependent on a PC anymore. He is in the process of creating this environment, but lets give him time. For by his own admission he is just a regular user, he is learning, experimenting, creating and testing. He is also documenting his findings for all of us to read, learn and apply. So let us do our due diligence and do the best we can.
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
jamesking420 said:
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
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This appears to be working to install a KK ROM so I will see if it comes up and I can then run the various flashes.
PS - yes - I did think that running Complete Data Reset and the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win" was probably unecessary but I'd already run Complete Data Reset before I realised that it probably was overkill. Since this process worked I decided to do it again on the second touchpad, but the Windows PC died before I got the chance. But I had already run the process to load TPToolbox on to the tablet. So I'm now flashing TWRP v2.8.3.0 (data media), a KK ROM, and some KK compatible GApps using TPToolbox.
I hope that after that I can use the recovery I have loaded to install a new ROM, Rom Reducer, SU, Optimiser, GApps, and a more recent Recovery.
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My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
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I learn something new everyday, I just googled Raspberry Pi and its some sort of tiny, dual-display, desktop computer. At first I thought it was some sort of "Rogue ROM", I guess we can always learn something new everyday, like last month I learned to play Run Race 3d and I am not even a gamer.
And yesterday I wrote a program in a UNIX language called "AWK"
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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As per your comment recovery ( again?! ), only flash recovery if you want a different version than what the Wipe all zip flashes ( currently flashes TWRP 3.2.1 ), lets say in the future nobody is updating the Wipe all zip, and it still flashes TWRP 3.2.1, but you see a newer version of TWRP 4.1 compatible with the touchpad, then you can flash that at the tail end, or if your fond of an older version like TWPR 2.8, same thing.
Thanks - yes - I want sure if Wipe all Zip was flashing or just into TWRP so I flashed it again just to be on the safe side. Because it was called wioe ask I thought maybe it wasn't actually flashing anything new, just wiping and booting.
Anyway, thanks for your help it was very useful.
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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The HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android guide:
Click HERE for the Guide and File
A live Linux CD, just boot it from any PC, no installation is need it and have full control of the Tablet for ever !
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
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jamesking420 said:
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
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That is very unfortunate, but there is nothing to worry. The Tablets can be found for $10 anywhere and you maybe surprise to find in a dumpster somewhere.
But it can be revive to its full working conditions and all the files are posted on here, it only takes a click and is done!