Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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ksarius said:
Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.
SteelH said:
With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.
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You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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ksarius said:
You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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Thx! That clears my doubts. Só with s-off i Can also flash custom ROM without PC?
Now I realize why ppl say sg3 is easier.
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Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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You can flash a kernel/boot.img without fastboot or a pc even if you are s-on. There is an updater-script mod to accomplish this.
S-Off = security check off. Meaning you can flash radios/fw etc that are not signed with HTCs private key.
Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?
mih3y said:
Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?
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No you will not get ota updates if you unlock the bootloader.
But I don't know what will happen if you re-lock it!
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I will just try to buy the dev. Edition from US so I don't have to worry about unlocking lol.
My next step will be to learn how to root it and flash new ROMs
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Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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ksarius said:
Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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Yeah I know some people got it worse. :/ but also a iPhone here for 64gb is 800 I believe. Still a big price gap between 800 and 1200 though.
The reason it won't be unlockable is because AT&T in the past had always had locked bootloaders that weren't unlock able byHTC Dev. I think the One X got it after a few months but I'd prefer not to wait. But for 300 vs 650 I can wait a bit. As long as it doesn't take like a year.
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Question :
I have a carrier unlocked AT&T phone (4.1.1) I'm using on TELUS/BELL in Canada.
IF I unlock the bootloader to downgrade to AT&T ICS so I can use the Lapdock again,
Will the downgrading/unlocked bootloader kill the carrier unlocking ?
(may be this question is coming a bit too early in the bootloader unlocking adventure ?)
smogtdi said:
Question :
I have a carrier unlocked AT&T phone (4.1.1) I'm using on TELUS/BELL in Canada.
IF I unlock the bootloader to downgrade to AT&T ICS so I can use the Lapdock again,
Will the downgrading/unlocked bootloader kill the carrier unlocking ?
(may be this question is coming a bit too early in the bootloader unlocking adventure ?)
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no once the phone is sim unlocked...thats it is for any carrier....
yes you can downgrade upgrade sidegrade almost anything
i hope that is going to be kernels and rom modified and costumized from an ICS base so we can use as lapdock.....
that is the reason i'm still on ICS ........
htchd2fix said:
so we can use as lapdock.....
that is the reason i'm still on ICS ........
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That's the reason I cry every night since I upgraded to 4.1.1
a bare bone original ICS (as in stock from google not from ATT) would be fine for me
i hope that is going to be kernels and rom modified and customized from an ICS base so we can use as lapdock....
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I hope we will be able to flash Ubuntu for Arm on it; that will be icing on the cake.
smogtdi said:
That's the reason I cry every night since I upgraded to 4.1.1
a bare bone original ICS (as in stock from google not from ATT) would be fine for me
I hope we will be able to flash Ubuntu for Arm on it; that will be icing on the cake.
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you bet....somebody is going to start playing with this beast.......
Was a great lil phone , but without unlocked bl limited its capabilities, was there a way given yet,
Vintage144 said:
Was a great lil phone , but without unlocked bl limited its capabilities, was there a way giv futureen yet,
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Assuming you have a model that isn't unlockable via htcdev and you've upgraded past the current capability of sunshine then you are stuck. Likely the only hope is for future support from sunshine.
I was on the invite list for the first oneplus one (and oneplus 2 ) i opted out of the moto x, i think it would be a great phone if it was bl unlocked , if i was just an average citizen , any abdroid, apple or win phone would be fine , haha, but im not
You make no sense dude, most Moto X are unlockable and it's a great phone.
I have a few friends who travel occasionally to china and back(India).I have asked my friend to bring a black 64GB variant for me.I am worried if the rom pre-installed(chinese) would be unusable for an indian? Would there be a way to flash the rom Indians recieve on buying from mi.com?
Are you...me? Haha
Your only worry should be that you don't get a defective piece in some way. I got the exact same thing (Black 64GB) for Rs. 29k.
I first flashed the Global ROM which seemed a little buggy and heavy. I then unlocked the bootloader (you should request the unlock code RIGHT AWAY) and flashed the Xiaoumi.EU ROM which works just fine.
I am now just hoping that the kernel source is released soon. Rest everything works as expected. Go for it.
n33raj18 said:
Are you...me? Haha
Your only worry should be that you don't get a defective piece in some way. I got the exact same thing (Black 64GB) for Rs. 29k.
I first flashed the Global ROM which seemed a little buggy and heavy. I then unlocked the bootloader (you should request the unlock code RIGHT AWAY) and flashed the Xiaoumi.EU ROM which works just fine.
I am now just hoping that the kernel source is released soon. Rest everything works as expected. Go for it.
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It will be necessary to change rom? Will the stock one be too Chinese-ish ?
P.S. I am buying for Rs.25k! ?
I have an N920A but I didn't but it from AT&T, I bought it unlocked from Amazon. The reason I'm posting is that I had the option to OEM Unlock the device and I would venture a guess that it is actually working. So my question is that is there any way in which I can root or install a custom ROM.
5herlOcked
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Hi bro, sorry to disappoint you but there is no root or unlock bootloader. I also have the same S*#%T with me. Cant do anything better. But the device is awesome with features and speed not the AT&T.
Hey dude I have exact same version my bootloader is also unlocked I bought it from a friend who won it in a raffle or contest. Also wandering if there's a chance to root or custom rom