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With the latest Nokia Camera Pro or a suitable GCam installed, is it fair to say that the Nokia 8's camera performance is now reasonably acceptable, say, comparable to a good 2017 mid-range phone, and with usable OIS?
Or do you think it is still sub-par?
In addition to picture quality, practical issues like focusing speed and accuracy are also important considerations.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I have a GCam mod installed, Arnova's version and in my opinion the picture quality is very good, at least in good light conditions. In difficult light conditions the camera still has its limits. The Nokia Pro Camera app has not changed much here in my opinions though there is potential for future improvement. However, we have to see what Nokia can deliver. That being said, the picture quality in my opinion with a suitable GCam mod is more than sufficient and I have taken some very nice pictures with the phone already. I definitely do not think it is any worse than a 2017 mid ranger. I have not experienced issues with auto focus on the GCam mods.
I use the Nokia app almost exclusively now, it still has some silly problems but the image output is satisfactory for a phone snapper.
I used to use a mix of GCam and the nokia pro app. In good light the photos are really good.
The main issue i had was the phone never focused when i used to point it downwards (say for example taking a photo of my dog). i had to hold it facing up and wait for it to focus and then take the photo.
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Has the Nokia 8's camera performance improved even further with the latest GCam CStark version, which seems to be the preferred mod on XDA? Would any user care to share their recent experience?
Thanks!
Hopeless in low light, ok in day light.
GCam helps a lot.
I use the latest Arnova version and it works very well, also in lowlight.
Wirh gcam very best , nice pics , nokia software is ****
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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Why you make a new topic about this because its been talked about and some hate it but many love it. But why focus on words when you can judge for your self when you go to places like flickr and see how each phone takes them photo's
Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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The point and shoot is second to none.
The pro and night modes are both second to none..
Telephoto lens is superb
Only thing is say ia better is HDR on the pixel.
Besides that the p20 Pro stands alone. Even against late 2018 phones.
Unbeatable point & shoot camera performance. Never seen a camera fair that well on phone before.
Pixel 3 camera is very good but not as refined or versatile as the Huawei system.
If you don't know how to tame it, you will not like it. But if you can tame it and know the capabilities and limitations of the sensor, you will love it!
I'm having a blast with it, because i know how it works inside out and now i can push it to it's limits.
/ Magnus
I love it
The thing I don't like is that I often get blurry images if I point and shoot
Hello,
For "HDR" effect, yu can use "night mode" in the day time. Otherwise I love the camera... competely... Have been using this phone on daily bases for 3 months and I'm astonished.
Here are some pictures - point and shoot
https://imgur.com/a/wcyZP4q
FOXTEiN said:
Unbeatable point & shoot camera performance. Never seen a camera fair that well on phone before.
Pixel 3 camera is very good but not as refined or versatile as the Huawei system.
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You got your hands on Pixel 3 already? Weird I thought they're not supposed to deliver until sometime later.
Not at all, There is a entire thread showing the amazing photos this phone can deliver, this phone camera is versatile, it has the best nightmode out there, the best zoom, and the main 40mp sensor can capture a lot of detail, Last night i manage to take a photo of a lighting (https://i.imgur.com/32TxPqG.jpg).
a flicker with P20 pro photos :
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
Yea, i love the P20 pro camera and night mode is freaking awesome! Only negative things i can think off is no stabilization on 4k video and the selfie cam could be a bit better but besides these 2 i think this camera is pretty much the best you can get right now for a cheap price.
for me it doesn't matter what i read or what other peoples say.
The camera of this phone is insane. Especially the night mode. Never saw something like this. Night shots looks brighter than with the human eye?
The only thing i don't like is the post processing of the camera app (oversharpening)
P20 Pro camera is neither bad, nor cheap, but both of those are highly subjective opinions. And you know what they say about opinions....
I am enjoying mine very much.
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Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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The front/selfie camera is what most people are complaining about, esp. the color saturation. It gives a plasticy color to human skin.
The main camera is superb.
The camera is really bad on this phone.
Pictures are so over processed and lake dynamic range.
In 10mpx it's inusable and in 40mpx il't noisy. Video recording is also bad.
This phone is just horrible. My olds S8+ and Xiaomi Mi9t are much better except for zooming and low light. S9+ destroys completely the p20 pro.
I really regret my purchase.
achour7 said:
The camera is really bad on this phone.
Pictures are so over processed and lake dynamic range.
In 10mpx it's inusable and in 40mpx il't noisy. Video recording is also bad.
This phone is just horrible. My olds S8+ and Xiaomi Mi9t are much better except for zooming and low light. S9+ destroys completely the p20 pro.
I really regret my purchase.
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I cannot second that. The only thing i can complain about is video recording.
Main shooter is more than capable to take great pics. It's incomparably better than op 7t.
The camera quality on this phone is really good. Anyone who says it's crap is objectively wrong.
The camera quality in the p20 pro still today better than many flagship, more than one year later, I compare the camera with the recents iPhone 11 pro max, pixel 4, mate 30 pro, samsung note 10, and it's nothing to envy of them, the kirin 970 is slower in games, but is smooth and very fast still
what is the best siting of camera ? in 10 m pixel or 40m pixel ?
Depend on the situation, with good daylight 40, 10 if you don't want big pictures files, for zoom, night and difficult light conditions better 10, normally I use 10, because Huawei optimized the software and the cams to work together in this setup, working main, telephoto and monochrome camera sensor together for improvement results
maahmd said:
what is the best siting of camera ? in 10 m pixel or 40m pixel ?
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I bought redmi note 10 pro max somedays ago. Normal shots of this phone is fine. But when I click photos of human face it is bit darker than normal. My other phones picture is more natural and real. But this one is bit darker and it can be really annoying sometimes. Attached some picture sample here. 1st picture is from Note 10 pro max and 2nd one is from Redmi 4x I am on miui 12.5.2 by the way. Is this a software or hardware issue I am confused. Please help!
eastad10 said:
I bought redmi note 10 pro max somedays ago. Normal shots of this phone is fine. But when I click photos of human face it is bit darker than normal. My other phones picture is more natural and real. But this one is bit darker and it can be really annoying sometimes. Attached some picture sample here. 1st picture is from Note 10 pro max and 2nd one is from Redmi 4x I am on miui 12.5.2 by the way. Is this a software or hardware issue I am confused. Please help!
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Forget if it's darker or brighter. Actual thing you have to look for is which one has natural colors (without enhancing colors artificially) because some phones/OEMs put artificial algorithms to make the picture look more brighter and put excessive brightness than what it actually has naturally.
Some people like natural colors and some like enhanced (artificial) colors/photos.
Cheers!
i can confirm the same... human face photos are too much saturated+yellowish+darker (with both stock miui and ANX )... compared with my redmi note 5 pro+mi 10i. (rn5 pro is pretty much natural WOW) .. and when adding 2x zoom to rear cam photos, it takes a bit much annoying time to process and clearly display the photo..
it's software. check Gcam then compare
Abdullah.Csit said:
it's software. check Gcam then compare
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Used 7.4 gcam. Same result.
eastad10 said:
I bought redmi note 10 pro max somedays ago. Normal shots of this phone is fine. But when I click photos of human face it is bit darker than normal. My other phones picture is more natural and real. But this one is bit darker and it can be really annoying sometimes. Attached some picture sample here. 1st picture is from Note 10 pro max and 2nd one is from Redmi 4x I am on miui 12.5.2 by the way. Is this a software or hardware issue I am confused. Please help!
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I have both redmi note 10 pro and Pro max. In both phones, human faces look darker in pics as well as 1080p videos (720p vids are bit grainy and just same as other phones). The problem persists in all conditions, let it be well lit indoor or outdoor, for group photos etc. Such problems were not there in my other redmi/realme/honor phones. Indoor Pics are not all presentable whatever the setting may be. And if you zoom in to human face, they kind of messy. Grainy would have been fine. Not sure if it can be improved.
This is because different mobile phones have different shooting configurations. This problem can be solved by adjusting some functions, etc.
Facing the same situation from day one of the use of Redmi note 10 pro max.
All pictures where human is involved are darker than actual skin color tone.
Not sure how to fix that. I use some filters provided by redmi to balance out the color tone, but that is something that you don't wanna do every time you open the camera.
Any solution?
(GCAM also provided the same results)
Ankit Chaturvedi said:
Facing the same situation from day one of the use of Redmi note 10 pro max.
All pictures where human is involved are darker than actual skin color tone.
Not sure how to fix that. I use some filters provided by redmi to balance out the color tone, but that is something that you don't wanna do every time you open the camera.
Any solution?
(GCAM also provided the same results)
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use MTSLsnapv5 with neon3 xml
Redmi Note 10 Pro max owned by me too has the same problem. I had checked many note 10 pro max camera review videos and for them it seems normal as any typical phone camera - smoothens a little, improve brightness, overall the picture gets pleasant and good. However, just on my Redmi note10 Pro max, any human skin gets a darker tone- FYI it is not even the natural color, but darker.
Initially thought it is a software issue and might get resolved with updates. Though I update my phone as soon as updates gets available, so far, after an year and numerous updates, the issue is still there. I tried all settings that they provide for camera and tried other camera apps etc- but results were same.
I suspect it could be a hardware issue due to bad quality control- I'm an electronics engineer and I do encounter one off problems for some items in mass production.
From the conversation above, I'm understanding that there are a few others who have same experience as me with Redmi Note 10 pro max.
Yes this is problem even new 2022 products at least on box all kind of software updates means all reviews on YouTube are fake and paid they just cheat spoiled 22000 on promax 8/128 just because of camera reviews note 9 was far better than this
mohan17 said:
Yes this is problem even new 2022 products at least on box all kind of software updates means all reviews on YouTube are fake and paid they just cheat spoiled 22000 on promax 8/128 just because of camera reviews note 9 was far better than this
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Check gcam thread for Shamim latest and @Kairu135 or my configs and try with these again
eastad10 said:
I bought redmi note 10 pro max somedays ago. Normal shots of this phone is fine. But when I click photos of human face it is bit darker than normal. My other phones picture is more natural and real. But this one is bit darker and it can be really annoying sometimes. Attached some picture sample here. 1st picture is from Note 10 pro max and 2nd one is from Redmi 4x I am on miui 12.5.2 by the way. Is this a software or hardware issue I am confused. Please help!
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Did you find solution to this problem. Mobile is almost useless because above issue. I had purchased mobile mainly for its Camera. Please help.
ZainBilq said:
Forget if it's darker or brighter. Actual thing you have to look for is which one has natural colors (without enhancing colors artificially) because some phones/OEMs put artificial algorithms to make the picture look more brighter and put excessive brightness than what it actually has naturally.
Some people like natural colors and some like enhanced (artificial) colors/photos.
Cheers!
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Very bad camera quality. Human face Darke while taking photos. I wasted my 20000
WildBeast1984 said:
Did you find solution to this problem. Mobile is almost useless because above issue. I had purchased mobile mainly for its Camera. Please help.
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Very bad camera quality. It darken human face while taking simple photos. Only human photo are darken. Other phone redmi note 9 pro and note 7 note 8 are good. I purchased this phone only for camera. But I wasted my 21000. I m very sad by purchasing this phone. Why it darken human face only. Every setting failed. Also photo crash after zooming. Very bad quality. What is fun of 108 mp camera. Redmi decieving it's customers. In future I will never buy Xiaomi phones.
Guys, I am planning to get this phone. From the reviews, I have seen about this camera and for the short time I had a look at all the pictures taken from the Vivo X70 Pro (not plus) I am quite impressed. There are a few reviews that pointed out some minor stabilization issues on front camera and other minor issues like the output of image quality at times slipping out.
I am just curious to know from the users about the general opinion on the photographic and video prowess of the phone and had there been any new updates/fixes to the camera software from October 2021 that might have improved the camera even further.
thank you all in advance!
Sany
I would like that there was the possibility of using the gimbal camera in external applications to be able to do stabilized live streaming.
sany said:
Guys, I am planning to get this phone. From the reviews, I have seen about this camera and for the short time I had a look at all the pictures taken from the Vivo X70 Pro (not plus) I am quite impressed. There are a few reviews that pointed out some minor stabilization issues on front camera and other minor issues like the output of image quality at times slipping out.
I am just curious to know from the users about the general opinion on the photographic and video prowess of the phone and had there been any new updates/fixes to the camera software from October 2021 that might have improved the camera even further.
thank you all in advance!
Sany
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The back camera is top of the line, in my experience better than most out phones out there, if not the best. Front camera is decent in 98% of the situations, it may under perform in some areas like when under direct light etc, but not as bad as people describe it in reviews. Overall, money well spent.
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The back camera is top of the line, in my experience better than most out phones out there, if not the best. Front camera is decent in 98% of the situations, it may under perform in some areas like when under direct light etc, but not as bad as people describe it in reviews. Overall, money well spent.
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Thank you - do you see any new updates that has improved the camera between when you first bought and now?
sany said:
Thank you - do you see any new updates that has improved the camera between when you first bought and now?
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None as for as Funtouch OS is concerned. They have a huge scope to imporve on Software lines like Google Phone. But Vivo is very cautious about using its Camera Beast.
I tried horizontal line stabilization today and was amazed.
Holding the phone horizontally, walking without holding it straight, a stabilized video came out.
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Thank you - do you see any new updates that has improved the camera between when you first bought and now?
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Not by a lot, origin os here, but not many things I would like to be changed. Improvements yeah, eventually they will come. But it is currently a beast!
They actually removed a lot of third party support in Ocean OS. No 10bit support, no stable 50fps, only main lens in filmic pro since the update. If you care about Filmic Pro and mcpro24fps Id suggest not to update.
The Vivo Camera is rock stable as ever but it eats A LOT of battery for video. If you use the normal camera app the phone is still a beast.
Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
Been facing same prob. I hear GCam looks better.
Paran360 said:
Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
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G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Did you try EU stable rom?
Paran360 said:
Did you try EU stable rom?
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I've not tried any rom yet, actually I'm unable to decide which distro I should choose, I want to try Pixel Experience but I can't see it near future
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
nevernding said:
Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
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Latest 8.1.101, without configurations cuz there's not any config file for note 11, +wide camera isn't working properly
in android 12.1 GSI PE Plus i use OnePlus Camera Ported by AyraHikary
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
Oifan said:
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
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How does another gallary app fix the photo?
Gun Striker said:
How does another gallary app fix the photo?
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It has fixed the quality / speed of the picture rendering -- during scolling & zooming of a picture (subway map) I have seen pixelated / blurred areas (for > 1sec) and I thought it's a camera problem. But when I used another gallery app, it was pixelated only for maybe 0.5sec and then it got perfectly sharp.
I mean it's not Windows so it doesn't show you the icon (when the app is busy and the user should wait) -- so I was not sure whether the app is busy rendering or not.
I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
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I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
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gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
The Mero said:
gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
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I have noticed the "auto" picture with gcam is way better than the auto setting on the stock app. Using the pro mode on the stock app though I can get a more realistic picture by adjusting white balance etc manually but the image still isn't as crisp as gcam. Night mode on gcam is amazing too.
Can't seem to get the 50mp to work on gcam so can't compare that. I use the 50mp feature to take pictures of signs or large blocks of text, I can definitely get better clarity when zooming in but I wouldn't call it a great looking picture. Luckily that isn't why I bought the phone.
The camera doesn't knock out true 50mp photos , they pixels are arranged in groups of 4 so 4 small ones make up one bigger one hence the 12.5mp photos . 50mp photos are just enlarged 12.5 ones really . And You may notice a lot of versions of gcam are knocking out 8mp photos too , try the version I posted in the gcam thread with the XML ( it's got an agc extension for some reason ) . It produces 12.5s and it's the sharpest gcam I've seen yet , although white balance is a bit off it can easily be corrected in Snapseed
And tbh I'm starting to think this phone is a dog , phone call volume seems pretty low compared to my old x3 NFC . That with the Bluetooth audio dropouts , crappy camera .. only good thing about it is the screen lol
I am happy for now, aside from the camera it's still an upgrade from my MiA2 and it cost me less than a decent dinner in a restaurant.