Greetings to Pixel 5a owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day. I'm choosing between these two models.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
Best,
Andrii
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Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
Best,
Andrii
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Currently I only use my 5a and 6 for testing.
Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
I am still using (and like) my 3a as my daily-use phone.
The 5a is very close in size and style.
Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
Cheers.
Forgot to add - both 6 and 5a are Japanese versions. I have found that the shutter sound can't be disabled; maybe you know any other issues or differences?
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Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
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Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
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thanks for sharing your experience! very helpful!!
As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
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As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs. the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
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Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
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Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
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TBH I haven't handled the P6, but with the physical design and the problems many have had with the new hardware, I'd say stick with the P5a. I doubt the 2GB of RAM will make much difference for you. My wife uses hers pretty heavily for playing games and she's never had an issue with sluggishness.
If you want to be able to root, make sure you buy an unbranded Google device.
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make sure you buy an unbranded Google device
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
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Don't get a carrier branded device. But since you're in the Ukraine, I'm not sure this would be of any concern.
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I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
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No idea.
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upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What are you trying to do with that?
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What are you trying to do with that?
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I have
V0latyle said:
No idea.
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Hello, I also from Ukraine, I bought my 5a 2 month ago in stylus. Everything works fine. It's not Japan it's US model.
Thanks, @ipdev, @V0latyle, @[email protected], for your feedback
Today I placed my order for the P5A (US version), and I look forward to receiving it next week! Should I check something when in-store? I'm not confident about the seller, so it's better to find out issues before paying.
The idea was: Everything works for me in my P4A, except its battery drains too fast. P5A is similar to P4A but with excellent battery life. Snapdragon SoC, 60Hz screen, and rear-mounted fingerprint are more pros to me than cons.
Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
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Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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I am hesitant to do that since I risk lossing banking apps and payments that use nfc. Google is trying hard to disable hiding of unlocked bootloader...idiots.
Only ROM that for now works is pixel experience and rooting will again cause issues with banking and payment apps.
I don't know, magisk is hiding it perfectly
Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
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Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
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I'd personally say stay away. The overheating issue isn't *terrible* if you're not a frequent user of video chat, but when you do need it, your phone is going to overheat and your radios shut off. I was trying to use a telehealth visit with my doctor for a recent diagnosis using 5G on Visible, and it keep shutting off the radio and freezing the phone. I had to use my wife's iPhone instead. The doctor couldn't even call my phone because it was locked up for 5 minutes.
I'm on my 3rd Pixel 5a (due to screen breaks) they have all had the overheating issue. It won't come up for months but if/when it does come up it can be during a critical time.
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I am wondering why anyone, who has a OP5 or OP5T would upgrade?
My OP5 with the 835 CPU and 128Gb ram works great. OK, a couple of foibles, but there is no guarentee that they are fixed in the new one.
A new one has a slightly faster processor, OIS on the camera and a larger screen. Is that sufficient to change?
I'm curious - it's not a financial issue (I'm not broke), but I would need persuading.
Alan
It doesn't make sense.
1. With the speed upgrade what can you do or achieve in those split seconds.
2. Are those extra inch of display worth the price.
3. No comments on camera. Definitely those too are going to suck.
Wait for 7, I'm going to.
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I am wondering why anyone, who has a OP5 or OP5T would upgrade?
My OP5 with the 835 CPU and 128Gb ram works great. OK, a couple of foibles, but there is no guarentee that they are fixed in the new one.
A new one has a slightly faster processor, OIS on the camera and a larger screen. Is that sufficient to change?
I'm curious - it's not a financial issue (I'm not broke), but I would need persuading.
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Why ask us? It's your money, buy it or don't buy it.
Well a few reasons. I'm coming from a 5 not a 5T, so this makes a difference.
1. I sell my current phone after a year to get maximum
value back. That keeps my or of pocket for a new phone
usually at $100-$150.
2. With free money through new car test drive rewards, I
have $220 in rewards added to my paypal account
making the $579 OnePlus 6 just $360. With the sale of my
OnePlus 5, I shouldn't have any money out of pocket and
may make$20 or $40
3. The processor and new band 71 support for TMobile is a
nice feature.
4. The camera is certainly better in comparison tests to the
pixel 2 and s9+. The 19% size increase of the camera pixel
and OIS make for much better low light photos and
video capture.
5. The screen is larger. Not a notch fan but it's smaller then
most and you can hide it. So if I don't like who cares it's
gone.
There may be a few other reason I'm missing but to me those are what stick out right now. Oh and with glass, better reception and 4x4 MIMO (Gigabit LTE)
Edit: I wasn't sure but just read that the 128gb and 256gb storage options will both have UFS 2.1. I previously thought it was just the 256gb storage option. That will be huge speed increase in storage.
If I were you, I wouldn't "upgrade" to the OnePlus 6, nothing new besides OIS, larger screen and new CPU. Just a waste of money
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If I were you, I wouldn't "upgrade" to the OnePlus 6, nothing new besides OIS, larger screen and new CPU. Just a waste of money
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Definitely disagree. 4x4 MIMO for Gigabit LTE, UFS 2.1 storage (OP5 eMMc is 400mbps and UFS 2.1 is 1.5gbps), OIS plus 19% larger pixels for better low light pics, band 71 for TMobile users, bigger screen and more power efficient SoC.
It may not be enough for you to upgrade but certainly not a waste.
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Definitely disagree. 4x4 MIMO for Gigabit LTE, UFS 2.1 storage (OP5 eMMc is 400mbps and UFS 2.1 is 1.5gbps), OIS plus 19% larger pixels for better low light pics, band 71 for TMobile users, bigger screen and more power efficient SoC.
It may not be enough for you to upgrade but certainly not a waste.
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OP5 has also UFS 2.1 storage.
I will wait for next Gen UFS 3 Smartphone.
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OP5 has also UFS 2.1 storage.
I will wait for next Gen UFS 3 Smartphone.
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Ahh I stand corrected, thought it had eMMc. All good. The rest is correct and still more then enough to upgrade from the 5, maybe not the 5T though.
Buy OP6 if you want that notched and back-shattering experience.
Considering that there is a 99.9% chance the 6T will be released in November, I'll hold onto my €600 and see if anything actually worth while comes on it that justifies spending the money compared to the 6.
I wouldn't bother. True the processor (I hear) is 30% faster but you have to balance that with the highly not-durable all glass body (front and back) and the minimal improvements. Too much risk to justify buying a new one.
Now that I think about it, there actually is one big improvement - project Treble.
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Now that I think about it, there actually is one big improvement - project Treble.
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Not a huge improvement, actually.
OnePlus dev community is one of the best and the 5 and 5t should receive many Android upgrades after OnePlus discontinues their support.
Also, with the latest OpenBetas, they've made changes to the partitions and the Camera Hal. Everything points to future Treble support for the 5 and 5t: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...opment/discussion-guide-oneplus-5-5t-t3776358
Cuz why not?
imo you should wait for 6T to release. People always buy non-T phones and get nervous after few months when OnePlus releases an upgraded version for the same price.
The reason why I would not move to OP6 from OP5 (no T)
- fingerprint on back (as also OP5T) is to me the biggest problem, considering I'm keeping the most of the time the phone on a desk
- camera: it's from OP3 they are saying it way better than before... but nothing (of few) has changed. If you buy OP, Camera it's not your nr 1 need
- is way bigger than a OP5 (of course, also OP5T)
- price !!
Here some reason why I would move:
- bigger screen (even if that notch...)
- 256GB possibility (but what a price !)
- Support to LTE Cat 13 and the 2x2 MIMO WiFi
Honestly I will stay on 5 until 6T and then let's see (if the will use fingerprint below screen)
I have been a pretty progressive one+ buyer. Daughter has one+3, wife has 1+3plus and I have the 5. Of course we've sold couple of oneplusone's and x. Since the 3 came out, everyone has been super satisfied with our devices. No root/custom ROM was required. Why do I upgrade? Because that's what our family do. It has definitely helped with keeping the cost down and everyone happy. I'm pretty sure other than cosmetics, not too much difference will be noticeable with 6. All of our one+ devices are in great working condition and still fast! Can't really tell the phones apart from the other. I try to upgrade every year. So does everyone in the family.
Basically , only because i have 64GB and to upgrade to 128 or 256
Just wait for T version, buying this mobile if you have oneplus 5 is pointless, even with T could be still pointless, it is just smartphone and almost exactly as previous one. Bigger screen is not 'life changer'
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It doesn't make sense.
1. With the speed upgrade what can you do or achieve in those split seconds.
2. Are those extra inch of display worth the price.
3. No comments on camera. Definitely those too are going to suck.
Wait for 7, I'm going to.
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Good points. It is pointless to upgrade to OP6 as there is no amazing feature that stands out.
I am trying to compare the specs of the "Pixel 5" and the recently released "Samsung S20 FE" and would actually want to know, why Pixel 5 and not the S20 FE?For the reference, GSMArena comparison here.
Currently i see the following pros and cons comparing those devices:
S20 FE pros:
SD card slot
Bigger battery
Better SoC
Better GPU
120hz scree refresh rate
Front fingerprint sensor (debatable, but definitely my personal preference)
More cameras and (hopefully) better camera sensors (but not better camera software)
Available (unlike Pixel 5, that is still on pre-orders)
Pixel 5 pros:
More RAM
Better camera software
Less bloatware
Direct updates from Google
Usable eSIM (none of the S20 series have their eSIM enabled on US models)
Unlocakble bootloader (just an assumption, but the QC based S20 FE is unlikely to have it's btl unlockable)
Missing SD slot (which a find to be a pretty big deal) and a somewhat weaker SoC/GPU/battery make me lean toward the S20 FE, yet there seem to be a pretty big fan base on the Pixels those days, and i want to know why. So, what Pixel 5 pros did i miss?
Thanks in advance for replies.
You might not care what I think but I'm gonna reply anyway. Im using a Note 9 now.
The reason the P5 beats any Samsung phone, again this is IMO, is because it runs STOCK ANDROID OS. One UI is trash, TouchWiz was trash. Samsung can make a great, beautiful, crazy spec'd phone every time but it still runs a trash OS. And plz dont try to tell me its not that bad. It is and my wife has a Note 20 5G and its trash on there too even with the newer updates. This one thing is the reason I will never buy a Sam phone again.
And do I have to get into the bloat ware. Oh MY God! I have like 25-30 apps. When my phone updates, its says its optimizing 450+ apps. WTF. And forget about removing them cuz u can't UL BL to debloat. EVER.
Also don't let Sammy fool u with this quick monthly security updates. When it comes to new Android versions they still lag behind, especially if your device is a year or more old.
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You might not care what I think but I'm gonna reply anyway. Im using a Note 9 now.
The reason the P5 beats any Samsung phone, again this is IMO, is because it runs STOCK ANDROID OS. One UI is trash, TouchWiz was trash. Samsung can make a great, beautiful, crazy spec'd phone every time but it still runs a trash OS. And plz dont try to tell me its not that bad. It is and my wife has a Note 20 5G and its trash on there too even with the newer updates.
And do I have to get into the bloat ware. Oh MY God! I have like 25-30 apps. When my phone updates, its says its optimizing 450+ apps. WTF. And forget about removing them cuz u can't UL BL to debloat. EVER.
Also don't let Sammy fool u with this quick monthly security updates. When it comes to new Android versions they still lag behind, especially if your device is a year or more old.
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I actually do agree on that, yes, the crap on Samsung stock ROM is pretty bad, but is it THAT bad? On a carrier branded CSC - yes, absolutely. Just a """"clean"""" (yea, i know, i know) stock Samsung - bad, but not THAT bad. And thats the main factor that makes me lean toward Pixel indeed.
Latest and greatest Android? Well, i can live without that. Heck, i am typing it from an Android 8 device right now, lol.
But... lower specs, and ESPECIALLY, the SD card slot do bother me. I've got Nexus7 FHD tablet, bought it more or less a few month after its release, still using it sometimes, and one damn feature i've missed every single time i've boarded a long flight is having an SD card slot! I don't know why the heck Google hates SD cards so much, but thats definitely bothers me.
In any case, i did mention "less bloatware" in my pros list, guess i should have called it "clean android". Do i turst it to remain totally clean? NO! Don't get me started on Google, their platforms, and ****loads of ads, some blockable, some may soon be less so. Just a few things to list on that topic, though - YouTube midroll ads (that drove me to finally start using alt client) and Android TV leanback launcher update with a huge ad on the top 1/3 of the screen (which has forced me to disable apps updates, cause on a TV Play market its all updates or no apps update).
I'm sorry. I do not agree. OneUI is far worse than u think. Im using it now. Go try for yourself. And I dont mean go to the store and look at it. Actually use a phone with it on it and u will want to throw it against a wall.
I have a 400gb mem card in my phone now. There is nothing an it. I used to need it for music but now everything is streaming. Photos and vids get backed up to cloud. I dont think I need a mem card anymore and I was a firm believer in them.
Please dont ever compare Google with Sam in terms of bloatware. It makes you look like u have no idea what u are talking about. Its not even a competition. I mean Sammy tried to put ads to our lockscreens at one point. If u think the Pixel has bloatware, go look at an app list on a new Sam phone. The Note 20 is an absolute joke.
I'm in the same debate as you... Pretty sure p5 wins due to unlocked bootloader. My p2 stands up still to processing power, I suspect I'll get 3 years out of the p5 since I've always found more ram is more important than more processing power and the 765g does hold up next to the p4 865.
Why do we run Pixels? Stock android, superior experience, no/limited bloat, reliable updates, and superior camera performance. But, you likely knew that already, and you came here to discuss specs. It's not the specs; it's the real world performance. You ever run a Windoze comp with a fresh install? See how snappy and smooth the performance is? Well, that's what a Pixel is like all the time. You're basically asking the PC equivalent of asking a tech forum "should I buy an Acer (or Dell or whatever) or build my own?" The answer will likely be build your own or reinstall Windoze and upgrade what you have. Look man, I was a Samsung lover for many years. But their bloat is intrusive and very poorly implemented, and I got sick of it. To complete the analogy: if you want a Dell (even if it is an Alienware) running the latest Intel, go ahead. I'll build my own AMD machine that rocks its socks off.
Come down to long term experience for me.
Pixel phones have been great to use and continue to feel great after a couple of years. Samsung phones haven't faired so well. Lots of slow down, lots of duplicate apps, lots of clutter.
It's personal preference of course, some love Samsung apps over Google apps. For these people, pixel comes full of bloatware!
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I'm in the same debate as you... Pretty sure p5 wins due to unlocked bootloader. My p2 stands up still to processing power, I suspect I'll get 3 years out of the p5 since I've always found more ram is more important than more processing power and the 765g does hold up next to the p4 865.
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Unlocked bootloader is sadly, becoming less and less useful as the time goes. TBH, i am sick and tired to try & look for yet another way to hide root from apps, while i find myself actually customizing the system less and less using that root. Add Widevine dropping to L3 and all the streaming apps that use it going below HD, and you get yourself one more reason not to unlock.
Is slightly more RAM more important than slightly more CPU/GPU? Yea, i think it is. Is it massive, either way? Nope, probably not.
Again, one big thing that turns me away from P5 is the SD slot. From the other side, 2 pretty big things that pull me toward it are cleaner Android and eSIM.
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The specs are the very first thing that affects real world performance. Yes, you can bog it down to a crawl with junk, but is it so? If you look at the Samsung side of XDA, i don't see that many complains about it, so realistically, in the real word words, i honestly don't know.
I've used an OG Pixel XL, and Pixel 3 XL as well as a OP 6T.
T-mobile had a "too good to pass up" trade in deal for the S20 FG and I received it on Friday. It is an awesome phone. The telephoto lens is neat, but the wide angle is awesome. Samsung's awful OS and lack of BL unlocking are really the only faults of it lol. Pixels got me over the need for an sd slot, although the lack of free unlimited storage since the Pixel 3 has me concerned. With that said, I'll be buying a Pixel 5 assuming there's some kind of a deal on black friday.
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The specs are the very first thing that affects real world performance. Yes, you can bog it down to a crawl with junk, but is it so? If you look at the Samsung side of XDA, i don't see that many complains about it, so realistically, in the real word words, i honestly don't know.
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Fair enough, if specs are your measuring stick, sounds like you want the Samsung with the 8-series ARM. Go for it. I wouldn't shame you at all.
If you want to really understand what I am saying, try running a 3 or 4 year old Samsung (an S7 or S8) on Sam's version of Android 11 (if that's even possible) and then run Google's Android 11 on a Pixel or Pixel 2. I haven't tried it, but I know my old Samsungs ran like crap after just one or two updates, including severely reduced battery life. I am guessing that the Sams will run horribly for one reason or another. I know that Pixels run great on 11.
I run a Pixel (2 XL) stock, don't have to root it, don't have to monkey with flashing unless I want to try, don't have to constantly be looking for updated modems/ROMs/recoveries/kernels . Sure, most phones can be rescued with a good custom ROM, but you run the risk of bricking and voiding warranty. I used to love that hobby, and I loved my experience flashing with other phone hobbyists. But, I don't want to monkey with my daily driver anymore. I only flash my old phones.
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I've used an OG Pixel XL, and Pixel 3 XL as well as a OP 6T.
T-mobile had a "too good to pass up" trade in deal for the S20 FG and I received it on Friday. It is an awesome phone. The telephoto lens is neat, but the wide angle is awesome. Samsung's awful OS and lack of BL unlocking are really the only faults of it lol. Pixels got me over the need for an sd slot, although the lack of free unlimited storage since the Pixel 3 has me concerned. With that said, I'll be buying a Pixel 5 assuming there's some kind of a deal on black friday.
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Those are definitely not the only faults of it .Less RAM isn't exactly a good thing. If you look at the he S20 FE forum here, you'll immediately notice a "touch issues" thread, which is worrying. The eSIM being disabled on US CSCs, while Pixels, iPhones and even their own Fold got it is one heck of a turn off, too.
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Those are definitely not the only faults of it .Less RAM isn't exactly a good thing. If you look at the he S20 FE forum here, you'll immediately notice a "touch issues" thread, which is worrying. The eSIM being disabled on US CSCs, while Pixels, iPhones and even their own Fold got it is one heck of a turn off, too.
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What are you doing that you actually need eSim?
Considering T-mobile and Samsung are essentially giving me the S20 FE, plus $60, plus $70 Samsung store credit for my Pixel 3XL, I'll take it and let my kids use it as a hotspot. T-mobile also gave me another completely free line a couple weeks ago in an unrelated deal.
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What are you doing that you actually need eSim?
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I don't "need" eSIM, but its a useful feature assuming the dreaded COVID19 is eventually going to end, so one could travel again. It allows you to get and install a local plan in a different country without having to physically get the SIM card, a feature i'd actually like to have on my next phone. Not a must. But definitely a bonus. And most definitely a turn-off to get a device with the actual hardware being there, but having it disabled because Sammy and the carriers told so.
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Unlocked bootloader is sadly, becoming less and less useful as the time goes. TBH, i am sick and tired to try & look for yet another way to hide root from apps, while i find myself actually customizing the system less and less using that root. Add Widevine dropping to L3 and all the streaming apps that use it going below HD, and you get yourself one more reason not to unlock.
Is slightly more RAM more important than slightly more CPU/GPU? Yea, i think it is. Is it massive, either way? Nope, probably not.
Again, one big thing that turns me away from P5 is the SD slot. From the other side, 2 pretty big things that pull me toward it are cleaner Android and eSIM.
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I agree on root becoming less and less important.
However the ability to update the device after it's eol is handy, and installing a custom rom is often nice as well.
Pure Android is where it is at for me, plain and smple. I might go for another non google device now and then if the bootloader is unlockable so I can end up flashing a pure android rom but I always end up back on a pixel. It is a shame that samsung has not allowed bootloader unlocking lately, especially on a so called "fan edition". What a joke!
Physical size of the device. Sure the size of the screen on my current phone is bigger and show more but it's also physically a larger phone.
That one of the main selling points for me. I also look forward to having the FP reader on the back again, current phone is under display and I'm not a fan!
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Another selling point is vanilla android vs having to find a reliable custom rom for my Mi 9T (pixel experience is good though).
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I don't "need" eSIM, but its a useful feature assuming the dreaded COVID19 is eventually going to end, so one could travel again. It allows you to get and install a local plan in a different country without having to physically get the SIM card, a feature i'd actually like to have on my next phone. Not a must. But definitely a bonus. And most definitely a turn-off to get a device with the actual hardware being there, but having it disabled because Sammy and the carriers told so.
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Just get Fi, homie. Pay for the data you use, capped at 6 GB cost (60 bucks + 20 for the line), no international charges for phone or data, and it works almost everywhere. If it's a small country, Fi might even pick up neighboring service. I have been from Barcelona to Bratislava, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Columbia on Fi, and I had no problems whatsoever. Fi even sends you a nice little welcome text to let you know that you are in a different service area. And, no, I don't work for Google, lol. I changed because I love to travel and hate other carriers' intl fees or messing around with local SIMs.
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Just get Fi, homie...
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Thanks but no thanks, been there, done that. Yes, the international data on the Fi is definitely a plus. But:
Its expensive
I am currently on Cricket (AT&T MVNO), their lowest plan is $30 for 2gb, but before the COVID times i'd usually pay $35 for 5..10gb, slowed down afterwards, with similar plans also available directly from AT&T. My actual consumption now is close to 0, but has been somewhere in range of 2..3gb per month pre-COVID on average, so i've ended up paying $40..50, plus tax, as far as i recall, while most prepaid plans have tax included. Way too expensive just to have the same expensive data abroad, which is usually much cheaper there than it is in US.
It's coverage in US is pretty bad
In US its basically a T-Mobile MVNO. It got some contracts with US Cellular as well, i think, but its mostly just T-Mobile. I've been to many places i;ve just got NO reception whatsoever, where Cricket (read - AT&T) works perfectly fine, notably, on the ski sites in VT near #100, but this is just one example, the T-Mobile reception is generally just BAD.
Pay per use data is more annoying than i though it would be
You are basically paying $10/gb until you hit 6gb, which makes me think twice about everything i do online. Play Spotify? Nah, i don't remember if i have it downloaded, it will eat data, i'll pay for that. Watch that video on YouTube on the go? Nah, screw that, its probably 100mb in HD or so, that's $1 for a stupid video. And i absolutely hate this line of thinking. I want unlimited data which doesn't punish you financially if you go over the limit. And i don't want to pay $80+tax for that.
Sorry bro, but you DO sound like a Google sales person, lol
If you just want to text, make calls, twatter, and freakbook. Get the Samsung.
If need more independents, get the Pixel 5.
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I got my Mclaren 7t Pro almost 3 years ago. Battery life isn't what it used to be, but otherwise it's been a really good workhorse for me.
Been eyeing the new round of phones and nothing seems to really jump out at me. I looked at the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but that thing is huge. All of the demo Pixel 6 Pro's I tried had various problems and the 10t just... doesn't seem much of an upgrade on paper to my 7t Pro.
with the 10t, I'd be losing 4gb of RAM and getting a better camera and better screen. Processing seems roughly the same, although a new Snapdragon might be quicker than my older.
Any thoughts? is it worth upgrading or wait and push off for the 12gb RAM model?
I came from the oneplus 8 pro (which also had 12gb ram). The oneplus 10 pro isnt an upgrade, its the same phone.
Feels like it anyways.. I'd have stayed with the oneplus 8 pro except my screen was completely destroyed and so was the camera from a far drop.
It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.
dladz said:
It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.
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I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.
Morrob95 said:
I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.
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Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me
I came from the 8 Pro and 9 Pro, and this 10 Pro feels & performs as good or better so far...
Try This Review
OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Review
The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is a wickedly powerful Android phone which falls just short of the Galaxy S20 series on performance, for considerably less coin.
www.pcmag.com
why?
dladz said:
Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me
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Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?
Morrob95 said:
Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?
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Hahah no worries man, click the like button
I'm sure there will be more versions soon, bit of a slow burner compared to the 8 series, but it'll come good I reckon.
No ROM as yet. OnePlus hasn't released correct driver's or something so they're working in the device tree.
I don't pretend to understand it all but it's in the post I reckon... For me Evo X was the best ROM on the 8 and probably for all the devices I've had so if it's anything like that I'm sure we'll be happy
thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?
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thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?
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You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.
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if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
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Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Evo X mate, or any pixel ROM really, pixels get unlimited back up.
gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Here's some info:
(Q) is there a way to make photos think your phones a pixel whilst remaining on OOS?
Title says it all really. Some AOSP ROMs make photos think that the phones actually a pixel and so back up is unlimited. I think that should be standard anyway. Google makes a tonne of money as it is. I do have a pixel but wondered what's...
forum.xda-developers.com
dladz said:
You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.
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Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol
Morrob95 said:
Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol
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I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??
They are superb mate and for free.
Offer expired 12th April
dladz said:
I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??
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No i had no idea that was a thing either! However, I dont think I would have qualified anyway. I purchased on the 12th and took delivery on the release date (14 apr).
That case actually looks better than the one I had to buy. All other oneplus's I've bought had cases, I think they're just mad at us Americans LOL The slower charging is whatever. It would be cool to have it but the tests I've seen only show a couple minute difference for both phones to be fully charged.
Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
It is a great phone however if your fussy, like to modify and customize ect (live for the root) then you will find it frustrating
I find it's great, once i overcame the things i hated and removed, or rewrote some bits to get the outcome i wanted. Ease of use is great, camera is 9/10 IMO. It is a good phone regardless
khapunkap said:
Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
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good phone but don't buy ne2215 single sim i was f****d
Just a tough question.
If you want a great phone with superb performance and amazing hardware, plus an battery that just doesn't quit then yes.
But if you're expecting a flashers paradise which is what most OnePlus buyers want then I'm afraid the answer is a solid no, at least for now.
Any phone I've ever had before if it's going to prove to be a developers haven, we would already have ROMs popping up all over the place, alas with the 10 pro it's just not the case, then again neither is it with the pixel 6 or pro.
I hope it's not a sign of things to come, but for now it's a far cry from everybody's previous device.
Even the threads on XDA are convoluted and confusing, especially on the app.
I'd say look elsewhere but at least on paper, the two aforementioned devices are the best that is currently on offer.
Difficult time to buy unless you don't mind last gens phone. In which case I'd say go 8 pro or the 9 if flashing ROMs is your thing.
I hope it turns around but time is ticking away and the longer it goes on the slimmer the chances.
Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
null0seven said:
Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
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I ditched the Pixel 6 Pro awhile ago. Just too buggy with the first generation Tensor SoC....
null0seven said:
Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
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the mobile reception is so bad on pixel 6 pro, they use exynos crap, i returned immediately
im getting 5g full bars with oneplus as always
khapunkap said:
Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
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listen mate go for xiaomi mi 11 ultra i regret that i sold it perfect phone
Would the nothing phone be worth considering?
Aesthetically it's a stunner IMO...
dladz​I, too, like Nothing phone. For the design in the first place. The price is tempting.
I Hate rounded phones (dildo like), rounded corners, curved screen (useless expensive creap).
khapunkap​if money is no issue get Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
dladz said:
Just a tough question.
If you want a great phone with superb performance and amazing hardware, plus an battery that just doesn't quit then yes.
But if you're expecting a flashers paradise which is what most OnePlus buyers want then I'm afraid the answer is a solid no, at least for now.
Any phone I've ever had before if it's going to prove to be a developers haven, we would already have ROMs popping up all over the place, alas with the 10 pro it's just not the case, then again neither is it with the pixel 6 or pro.
I hope it's not a sign of things to come, but for now it's a far cry from everybody's previous device.
Even the threads on XDA are convoluted and confusing, especially on the app.
I'd say look elsewhere but at least on paper, the two aforementioned devices are the best that is currently on offer.
Difficult time to buy unless you don't mind last gens phone. In which case I'd say go 8 pro or the 9 if flashing ROMs is your thing.
I hope it turns around but time is ticking away and the longer it goes on the slimmer the chances.
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XDA has been terrible over the years. The search feature is so flawed now it almost seems like a waste of time to tell people to search for anything. The app is garbage now and basically was a slap in the face to users who had to pay for the premium app back in the day to get good usability.
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dladz​I, too, like Nothing phone. For the design in the first place. The price is tempting.
I Hate rounded phones (dildo like), rounded corners, curved screen (useless expensive creap).
khapunkap​if money is no issue get Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
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Loool at dildo phone. That made me chuckle.. what's the price on the nothing phone? Has that been provided yet?? Also one problem I may have with it is the SOC that's been chosen.
Design wise tho, looks amazing.
Plus Carl Pei on board can only be a good thing
biglo said:
XDA has been terrible over the years. The search feature is so flawed now it almost seems like a waste of time to tell people to search for anything. The app is garbage now and basically was a slap in the face to users who had to pay for the premium app back in the day to get good usability.
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Lol I forgot about that, but I did buy the premium app, then it just disappeared. The categories looks like someone made a change for the sake of making a change, it's less intuitive.
Oh wow, now that's some original OnePlus pricing..
Amazing
Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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I have an invite so I could, just don't have the extra cash ATM, plus knowing my luck I'd get it then a tonne of custom ROMs would come out for the 10 pro.
Black or white ?.. i am so racist!..
null0seven said:
Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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Not that they're selling it in the US to begin with but I couldn't do a 778G+ chip. Gotta have a flagship. There is a massive gap between 778G+ and 8 gen 1.
Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 vs Snapdragon 778G Plus: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 against 778G Plus to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
I had to go to a custom ROM thanks to OnePlus throttling the SoC on my 9 because the browsing performance was garbage without the X1 core and the 778G+ Geekbench single core score is similar to the throttled 9 performance. Thanks but no thanks.
Yes, the Nothing phone 778G+ chip is a big step backwards!
If money is a problem, Nothing phone is good. Nothing is around 470 euro, 10 Pro - 919 euro (8/128)
And SD 778 is the best performance processor for midrangers phones.
I like Very Much the design of OnePlus 10R (global Ace)
I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!
Haskren said:
I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!
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I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..
Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must
Haskren said:
Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must
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No the phone has AOD, some 3rd party apps won't work though. I use Google messages for texting and AOD won't show my incoming texts
I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.
I ordered mine from tradingshenzhen, it arrived 2 days ago.
- I bought it (512GB version) on December 29, now it has the same price, it didn't drop and I was monitoring the websites everyday since December 22, ~1150E. I bought it for the camera.
- first of all, I think people should buy this phone only if they need / want the camera, since it comes with a lot of settings / apps still in chinese.
- I think 5G is only suported in China, I got a notification saying it only works in "mainland China", so I have 4G, but I don't care, I'm more then happy with 4G.
- When you receive the phone it will have a lot of applications in Chinese, I haven't removed them yet, I will start the process today, but I will only remove what I know, not every application like others did here (I don't care if they "spy" on me)
- Apps that don't work: google voice, android auto, desktop mode when connected to a monitor. I don't use them so for me is OK.
You are buying for 1000E a phone that the competitors are selling for at least 1600E, but you must accept that not everything will work on it.
For me is OK, I realised I don't use all the "new" hot stuff, I'm still using the phone like I used my Samsung S7 6-7 years ago.
jericho246 said:
I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.
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Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.
google assistant also doesn't work properly (no conversation, no okay google).
Google backup doesn't work making setup/moving your phone super painful. I haven't found any free third party app that could move app settings and some data from messengers for example.
No desktop mode is a bummer as it's a feature I use when travelling with my P30 pro.
Hmmm - perhaps I will wait until February and hope a global release is announced
P6P said:
Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.
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Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..
aspj1111 said:
Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..
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Oh ok. I haven't tried that myself because it's always off for me. I have read that many times from the other users so I thought it's true.
No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.
extremecarver said:
No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.
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I love this phone. Coming from pixel 7 Pro this one feels way more premium
Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.
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Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.
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Well I guess it depends on what you want or need, i'm more than happy. From your writings i think even the Pixel 6a would be good for you.
I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life
extremecarver said:
I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life
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Got about 8h SOT with the Pixel 7 Pro. I think that's good .
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I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..
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I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?
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I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?
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I would check the compatibility assistant on Tradingshenzhen. 5G works great for me.
5g works (check the bands on kimovil for your country). mmwave is not supported but rare in Europe. In US no mmwave is a big letdown.1500mhz 5G will likely start in 1-2 years in many countries in Europe - and isn't supported. But very few phones (2022) support it.
I would really wait for S23 however now. In China/Taiwan the x90 Pro+ is cheap (840/880€) but I would not thing a second about it if you can get a Pixel 7 Pro for much cheaper as in Europe (here P7Pro 256GB is more expensive, S22 Ultra same price).