Question What do y'all think about the Pixel 7 / Pixel 7 Pro? - Google Pixel 7

I think it looks good! Also the chipset makes it more better! What do you think?

Too big and too heavy. At 6.1 I would have bought it at launch. I'll wait for the a series again. Although I will check it out when it goes on display. The specs might be deceiving in real life.

Have a perfectly working 6a. No complaints it just works.
I'm going for the smaller pixel 7 this time. I can't do another pro model, too big. I didn't have a trade in so I bought a renewed pixel 4a on Amazon for $133 out the door. (5% Back too!) Google is giving $300 credit for it. Getting basically $167 off $599. Will also have $100 + $59.90 Google one credit towards the watch next month.
The specs don't lie. It's a better phone. I'm excited for the new display, faster charging, wireless charging, extra RAM, and now having USB 3.2 Gen 2! That's awesome.
I hope this reply ages well.

Specs are here: https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_7-11903.php

notnoelchannel said:
I think it looks good! Also the chipset makes it more better! What do you think?
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Its too small and fragile (all glass both sides). Screen should be 1/3-1/2 inch wider (not taller), thicken it up a bunch (space for bigger battery and reduce vulnerability of camera), remove the glass from the back and replace with fiberglass.

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Can't decide whether to get a Moto X or wait for the new Nexus

So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?
Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.
Depends on what the screen size is on the new Nexus. If it's 6 inches then I might opt for the X.
If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.
knitler said:
Unless the new Nexus is only 5in, has better camera or is MUCH cheaper I see no reason to get it over the X.
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Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).
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Considering the 5 retailed for $350 out of the box, and this at $450, most likely, the new Nexus will be cheaper (unless they do actually release a gigantic phablet). Also, the N5 came with wireless charging, which is an awesome feature that the X2 is missing. I believe there have also been rumors of a qHD display as well as 3GB RAM and a much larger battery. Of course, most of that speculation would be based on the 5.92" screen, which is just ridiculous (in terms of size).
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None of which really would appeal to me unless I was looking at the Note.
I think you misunderstood... I'm saying that if it comes with those specs in something like a 5.2" housing, that would be amazing. I don't want a bigger phone either, my old 5.5" was too unwieldy, 5.9" is just impractical.
If you did understand, then I don't know what you want in a phone. Because if a better quality, higher resolution display, more RAM, a larger battery, wireless charging(, for possibly a cheaper price) don't appeal to you, then I don't know what else would set apart a phone with an almost identical OS.
I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.
I'm interested to see about the Droid Turbo, Nexus and Z3.
Mayze23 said:
If it's as big as the pics that are leaked then definitely the X. I'm typing this with my Nexus 7 and it's not much bigger than the new nexus. Way to big for a phone.
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Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
Alaris said:
So as the title says I am having a tough time figuring out what I want. Just looking for some input on why you guys chose this phone over others?
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If you don't need a new phone right this second, I can't see why you wouldn't just wait until the new Nexus device comes out. Then you can compare two devices that you actually know what they are, rather than comparing a device that exists, with a device about which there are only leaks, rumors, and speculation. That kind of doesn't make any sense.
In any case, that's what I'm doing. I want to see what the next Nexus device is like first.
Besides, some rumors suggest the new Nexus device will be announced in two weeks. If not, it will still probably be sometime in the next couple months. Doesn't seem like a big deal to wait.
dboss007 said:
I'm waiting to see what Google announces before I do anything. The first 2 weeks of October should allow me to make a decision since Google is expected to announce something mid-October. I'm also interested to hear what Sony announces in early October with the Z3. Along with the X, those are the 3 phones I have my eye on going forward.
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Same here. I can't make a decision until I see what everyone has to offer.
larryvand said:
Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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Where are you getting this info? Almost everything I've read shows that the iPhone 6 is outselling the 6+ as much as over 4 to 1 in some places.
I would agree to try something out before dismissing it. But after handling a Note 3 and briefly owning an OPPO Find 7a, I can say, that, unless the Nexus manages to be the same dimensions or smaller than my G2 was, I won't be picking up an N6.
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Don't be so easy to dismiss it. 57% of Apple users are choosing the iPhone 6 Plus which is 158.1mm tall, instead of the 4.7" iPhone6. These people are coming from a 3.5" screen and more recently a 4" screen and they are picking a massive 158.1mm 5.5" phone by the 10s of millions. So Android users that for years have been using 4.7" to 5" phones, a possible new Nexus phone that will be about the same size as the iPhone 6 Plus (remember Apple has no choice but to have that fugly bezel on the bottom and a symmetrical one on the top) should be no problem and a much smaller size difference than what 10s of millions of Apple users are going for. If you don't want it that's fine. But just like the 10s of millions of the users that are choosing the iBend6 Plus, you will be in the minority.
Phablets are in, and small tablets are out.
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I truly believe that this is not a good indicator of how the phone/tablet/phablet market will trend. It's an Apple product, people will buy it regardless of what it is because it's new and it's by Apple. Period.
Well, now you know: This is the Motorola Nexus 6

Note 4 v. Nexus 6

Well, the Nexus 6 has been announced. These are in the same category. I have a decision to make.
http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
Unfortunately, we may not get reviews until after our return deadline on the Note 4.
Here is what I see as the benefits when comparing both phones:
Note 4 Benefits:
Spen
Potentially better camera?
More premium build quality?
Multi-window, which has been improved
Super AMOLED screen
SD Card
Removable battery
Nexus 6 Benefits:
Stock android, on time system OS updates (and potentially longer support lifetime)
Front facing dual speakers, potentially better?
Cheaper
Better google now hotword support?
Easier to root, unlocked bootloader
Likely smoother, less jitters and stuttering in the UI (some Note 4 reviewers are reporting stutters and jitters)
Cross carrier device, allowing you to jump around carriers, and giving a larger buyer base for resale
Currently unclear:
Battery life comparisons
Also, check out this error on the Nexus 6 page:
"13MP front-facing with optical image stabilization
2MP rear-facing"
Uh, that doesn't seem right.
My biggest concern with the Nexus 6 is the camera, since this is a Motorola made phone. I don't think there is any doubt that the Note 4's camera is better than the Moto X (2014)'s camera. Will that carry over to the Nexus 6?
Let me know if I've missed something in the comparison.
the price is stated at 649 so its not 400 cheaper
never liked motorola screens and no s-pen so you know my answer haha
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the price is stated at 649 so its not 400 cheaper
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Where did you see that? Is that confirmed?
androidcentral
Physically, the Nexus 6 looks a lot like the current Moto X, with a front-facing speaker and mic, a metal trim and soft-touch plastic back. The Nexus 6 will come in Midnight Blue and Cloud White, and pricing starts at $649 off contract. The Nexus 6 will be available to pre-order starting late October, with general availability to come in November. Google says it'll be available on contract through AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon and U.S. Cellular.
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Nexus 6 has Qi wireless charging. http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html at the bottom under Battery.
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Much cheaper, probably like $400 cheaper off-contract
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It's $649 off contract. Its got no external storage either. She's a big sucker compared to the Note 4...
Nexus 6 - 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm (6.27 x 3.27 x 0.40 in 184 g (6.49 oz)
Note 4 - 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in) 176 g (6.21 oz)
Nexus devices have always had the "right" high-end components. How they hang together and things like how good individual features such as the camera and display are sometimes cause them to fall down competitively. We'll see after some testing's done how well Motorola did.
Competition is good.
It also looks like it's shipping with Moto's Turbo Charger so it should be roughly the same charging as the Note 4. No sign of an SD card though.
the NOTE 4 will be better...it has a much better camera, smaller size, s pen, and the history of nexus devices say that the speaker performance are not good...this does have 2 speakers...so i dont know...
Too big and ugly design, no thanks.
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It also looks like it's shipping with Moto's Turbo Charger so it should be roughly the same charging as the Note 4. No sign of an SD card though.
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I saw that on the Nexus 9, but didn't see that on the Nexus 6...
EDIT: I see that now. Removed from the list, as both have it.
It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'
Do you want the "purity" of something like a Mazda Miata or the "features" of a BMW 3-series convertible? Performance freaks and car guys would pick the Miata. Those more practical and in to convenience would pick the BMW. They're both good handling convertibles but appeal to different people for different reasons. Same thing applies here. The BMW outsells the Miata 15:1 even though it's more expensive BTW.
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I saw that on the Nexus 9, but didn't see that on the Nexus 6...
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Well it's a theory that happens to fit the facts. On the product information page I linked it shows a picture of the charger which is identical to the one pictured here. Couple that with the charging speed and I think it's almost certainly the same charger.
That dual front facing speakers though. Not sure about the audio quality but I really miss the HTC One Max's speakers. IMHO all high end phones SHOULD have that.
Metal rim is a plus.
Now it is a decision over whether to give up S Pen features for Android L + Dual front facing speakers (provided superior audio quality).
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That dual front facing speakers though. Not sure about the audio quality but I really miss the HTC One Max's speakers. IMHO all high end phones SHOULD have that.
Metal rim is a plus.
Now it is a decision over whether to give up S Pen features for Android L + Dual front facing speakers (provided superior audio quality).
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For me this just solidified my desire for a Note 4. Yes, the Nexus 6 is an excellent device and it's wonderful to see them upping the specs in the Nexus line (especially when it comes to battery life). But without an SD card it's just a non-starter for me.
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It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'
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Sorry, I meant that the Note 4 has a "Super" amoled screen.
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Well it's a theory that happens to fit the facts. On the product information page I linked it shows a picture of the charger which is identical to the one pictured here. Couple that with the charging speed and I think it's almost certainly the same charger.
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yes, you are right. I made that change.
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It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'
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I saw that and wasn't sure it's correct. I wonder who's making the panel? It's not Samsung or their Display Group CEO wouldn't have recently said this...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-is-only-company-buying-subsidiarys-mobile-display-tech/
Going up against Samsung with an inferior AMOLED panel might turn out not to be a great idea on Motorola's part. The Note 4's panel is 14% more power efficient than the N3's 1080P panel. And DisplayMate crowned it "best mobile display" even against the iP6's. That's a tough party to crash.
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yes, you are right. I made that change.
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Aaah yeah sorry about that, I was waiting for the new-users "5 mins between posts" timer to expire and didn't notice you updated your post.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I saw that and wasn't sure it's correct. I wonder who's making the panel? It's not Samsung or their Display Group CEO wouldn't have recently said this...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-is-only-company-buying-subsidiarys-mobile-display-tech/
Going up against Samsung with an inferior AMOLED panel might turn out not to be a great idea on Motorola's part. The Note 4's panel is 14% more power efficient than the N3's 1080P panel. And DisplayMate crowned it "best mobile display" even against the iP6's. That's a tough party to crash.
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If it's anything like the Moto X then it'll be a Samsung-made panel made on last year's process (so yes, inferior to the one we'd expect on the Note 4). Samsung do sell panels to other people, just not in volume.
Love the size of the screen but no external sd card is a killer for me. Where am I going t ok put all my Roms and videos.
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Nexus 6 - How does it compare?

Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
spartanm99 said:
Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Thank you so much for the response I appreciate it
You've made some good points and thanks for the input on the Moto phone quality. I might consider getting 1 N6 for my girlfriend and I might get a replacement N5 (currently we both do have any good phones to use to last us another year.); both would be off contract of course as we are in Australia (purchase directly from Google or Moto unlocked).
I guess I'll have my fingers crossed for a detailed review (or two) to be released just before the presale opens.
Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
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I've never heard of the Xiaomi before but I will look into that thank you! I'm not sure if we have the option to get it here; I've heard of the Oppo but I've never seen one before. I must do some research on this phone too.
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Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Thanks for this info - I'll have a look at it!
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
spartanm99 said:
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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No need for sarcasm as the specs for the phone that I posted are pretty legitimate sounding, and some sources claim 100% real. Also looking at their previous model (nearly a year old) as well as the current (and upcoming) competition in China - the specs I posted for the above phone are not only possible, but will very likely exist before the Nexus 6 is but a few months old.
These Chinese manufacturers are progressing far faster than the Nexus series (or many other Android phones) have ever done. Under 6mm thick, 3500mh+ battery, Snapdragon 805+ processor, 3gb RAM+, QHD 6" screen etc is totally within reason on the latest Chinese manufacturer phones.

What are your choices for upgrading from note 4?

I decided the note 7 wasn't for me. Thankfully. I would have hated to end up with an exploding one (my luck).
So my family all got iPhone 7 plus(es) and now of course I have the itch for a new phone also... With 2 payments left on my note 4 (about $60)...they're worth about $200 so I'll probably just keep my note 4 perhaps as a remote control if nothing else.
Now the question to all of you, what are viable replacements?
The Pixel Xl didn't impress me with the exception of unlimited full res Google photos.
The LG v20 looks nice, but not sure about the IPS lcd screen - no amoled? Really?
I wouldn't consider a s7/edge since it's successor is just a few months out at this point.
What other phones are worth considering? Or why would the LG v20 be a logical choice?
Let the discussion begin.
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I decided the note 7 wasn't for me. Thankfully. I would have hated to end up with an exploding one (my luck).
So my family all got iPhone 7 plus(es) and now of course I have the itch for a new phone also... With 2 payments left on my note 4 (about $60)...they're worth about $200 so I'll probably just keep my note 4 perhaps as a remote control if nothing else.
Now the question to all of you, what are viable replacements?
The Pixel Xl didn't impress me with the exception of unlimited full res Google photos.
The LG v20 looks nice, but not sure about the IPS lcd screen - no amoled? Really?
I wouldn't consider a s7/edge since it's successor is just a few months out at this point.
What other phones are worth considering? Or why would the LG v20 be a logical choice?
Let the discussion begin.
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Go for s7 edge or nexus 6p the best tiĺl now in my opinion.
I'm in the same boat. I really want the Phab 2 Pro, but that processor...... Gimme that phone with the sd820 or better and I'm all smiles. I'll likely end up with one of the funky Chinese phones if the LTE bands match up. They're actually putting together decent stuff at a decent price. Or, the v20 if the pre-order extras are good
There is NO upgrade for the Note4. If it doesn't have Amoled, SPen, removable batery / Micro SD, and touchwiz, then I don't consider it an option. I most likely keep my Note4 until it dies.
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With 2 payments left on my note 4 (about $60)...they're worth about $200
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$200 for a phone on contract? That's a good deal. We don't get those affordable rates here in Jamaica. If so be the case, I'd have paid the $200 upfront and be done with it.
No not on contract... The current price of the note 4 on ebay is anywhere from $175 to $250 (usd) that's complete... On contract when I got this phone is 2014 it was like $750? I think.... I've been paying $32 a month for it for 22 months... I've 2 got payments left.
Looked on ebay earlier and saw one seller had some for $148 unlocked (again, on ebay)
I've been looking at the LG v20 reviews and stuff on YouTube. And I'm not sure I could call it a good enough upgrade for $800 usd!
It's a cool phone, but.... Yeah is sd820, and yeah it's HD audio, and yeah the extra little screen is all cool but just about everything it does the note 4 does too.... 4k video, 16mp camera (note 4), qhd amoled note 4 not ips lcd on the v20. The reviews are good but I dunno.
I guess I'll wait and see what 2017 brings to the table.
I am with you, on my last payments as well and have the itch beyond the itch, but really nothing out there. The wife has the S7 Edge and all she does is complain about it, but it is not rooted, debloated, etc...It might be the next one for me, or like you hang on till 2017 models start coming out. Honestly, think Samsung will figure things out so a Note 8 does not scare me, but must be packed to gills with tech and the latest and greatest processor.
I'm itching for the v20. But I have this feeling the next Samsung 2017 phone is going to be amazing.

Pixel 2 Xl to Note 8

Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.
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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.
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The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?
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The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?
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I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.
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I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.
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Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.
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Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.
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I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.
So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!
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I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.
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Yea i think i will stick w the Note 8 for now unless the pixel XL 2 drops vastly in price.
Screen
Camera
Battery
That's my decision order. Makes keeping the Note very easy
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So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!
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The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.
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The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.
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Thanks for your opinions, exactly what I was after!
I think you are spot on the Pixel has the advantage of the updates, however, Samsung Experience is much better than TouchWiz was as Samsung has brought it a lot of features into their software that Google didn't have, it's mainly Google copying Samsung these days I find!
I really like the 2x zoom the Note has, however, the portrait mode seems better on the Pixel, from what I've seen on real-life videos.
Choices, choices!!
I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.
I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.
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I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
I've read that about the Pixel 2 being wider making it uncomfortable when holding, which tbh my S8 is great because it's not very wide, so I was thinking that would be the same with the N8 so it's great to hear I was on right track. So even though it's got a bigger battery than the N8 would you say they are on par? My S8 can be great sometimes, however, it also can be crap! :-/
There's so many mixed reviews/opinions about the camera I don't know what to believe, so it's good to hear it's not all roses with the Pixel!
I'm still swaying towards the Note 8!
I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.
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I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.
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Yes, that's what I'm seeing across the net, too many issues out there for a premium device imo! It's a shame really as the Pixel 2 XL has so much potential! Thanks for the link, that's a great link to share!!
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I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.
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Yes I'm with you, an s8 with 6gb RAM and dual cameras would be an ideal phone imo!
recepo1 said:
Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 xl i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, fot the pixel 2 XL, unfortunatly in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 Xl... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no, no ,no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is a very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note
Ariyax said:
came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note
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Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!
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Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!
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Yeah a lot of people don't realize what they lose when they go to the Google Experience. I had to make that very tough decision when we had to switch to Project Fi to save money in a financial crap time. I almost cried when I sold my Note 5!!! Then came Xfinity!??

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