Hi. I probably would have bought the Mi Mix but decided on the Huawei Mate 9 because it has more LTE bands that work in US (e.g. although the Mix has band 4 it is missing band 12 that would improve LTE service for tmobile) and there were enough complaints about the Mix's camera to scare me away. Indeed the Mate 9 is a good device overall but I do like the bigger screen on the Mi Mix and there appears to have been a little more development on the Mi MIx. Probably cause the Mix uses the Snapdragon chip while Hauwei has its home grown Kerin. Anyways, to cut to the quick. Has there been any interesting information released about the Mi Mix 2 as I may consider it when released (in the fall?). In particular will the camera be significantly improved and will it improve its LTE capacity among other things. Thanks!
The Mix has been a much better device for me than the Mate 9 was when I had it. The Mate 9 felt like more of the same old design idea just slightly bigger. Camera focused device that ran reasonably well, the Mix has everything but camera focused design and so fits me better. There's really no comparing the screens or screen realestate ... in addition the difference between Emui [more or less a clone of Miui] are striking not the least of which theme control and various other personal controls.
Bands wise band 12 is more of a support band not a main one, my device has worked on LTE the whole time I've had it [anywhere T-Mobile had LTE for the Mate 9]. No idea on the Mix 2 but i am not seeing a compelling reason to buy it over the Mix itself when it does come out.
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Hi. I probably would have bought the Mi Mix but decided on the Huawei Mate 9 because it has more LTE bands that work in US (e.g. although the Mix has band 4 it is missing band 12 that would improve LTE service for tmobile) and there were enough complaints about the Mix's camera to scare me away. Indeed the Mate 9 is a good device overall but I do like the bigger screen on the Mi Mix and there appears to have been a little more development on the Mi MIx. Probably cause the Mix uses the Snapdragon chip while Hauwei has its home grown Kerin. Anyways, to cut to the quick. Has there been any interesting information released about the Mi Mix 2 as I may consider it when released (in the fall?). In particular will the camera be significantly improved and will it improve its LTE capacity among other things. Thanks!
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The mix does not have a bigger screen than mate 9 due to their screen ratio. The mate 9 have a considerable larger screen area with a better camera.
If you're in for custom rom, etc go for xiaomi but if you're someone that doesn't tinker with roms and just need a good daily driver with good camera then a Huawei mate 9 is good for that.
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The Mix has been a much better device for me than the Mate 9 was when I had it. The Mate 9 felt like more of the same old design idea just slightly bigger. Camera focused device that ran reasonably well, the Mix has everything but camera focused design and so fits me better. There's really no comparing the screens or screen realestate ... in addition the difference between Emui [more or less a clone of Miui] are striking not the least of which theme control and various other personal controls.
Bands wise band 12 is more of a support band not a main one, my device has worked on LTE the whole time I've had it [anywhere T-Mobile had LTE for the Mate 9]. No idea on the Mix 2 but i am not seeing a compelling reason to buy it over the Mix itself when it does come out.
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Appreciate your thoughts here. I think Band 12 can be helpful for inside building reception. Many people at my job complain cause their indoor reception is poor while mine is quite good. It always comes down to the person has a different carrier that does not support Band 12. Also camera is very important to me. Unfortunately I did not have a Mi Mix to test for myself so I basically had to go by reviews which more or less said that Mix's camera was it's weak point. I may still get a Mi Mix as the price is down to about $600. Just seeing how things play out. The other phone I might get in the fall is the Note 8.
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The mix does not have a bigger screen than mate 9 due to their screen ratio. The mate 9 have a considerable larger screen area with a better camera.
If you're in for custom rom, etc go for xiaomi but if you're someone that doesn't tinker with roms and just need a good daily driver with good camera then a Huawei mate 9 is good for that.
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Hi. I do not understand how you conclude that the Mate 9 has a bigger screen. The Mate 9 screen ratio is 16:9 and the Mi Mix is 17:9. The diagonal is 5.9" on Mate 9 and 6.4" on Mi Mix. Assuming I did the math right, that implies that the Mate 9 area in square inches is about 14.9 and the Mi Mix is about 16.9. Please check the width and height of the Mi Mix screen. My estimate is that it is about 2.99 inches wide and about 5.656 inches high. Could someone confirm? Thanks!
EDIT: The only news/rumours I've heard is that the Mix Mix 2 will have a 18:9 screen ratio, the sound is improved using new piezoelectric based technology, and Snapdragon 835 (not surprising)...
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Hi. I do not understand how you conclude that the Mate 9 has a bigger screen. The Mate 9 screen ratio is 16:9 and the Mi Mix is 17.9. The diagonal is 5.9" on Mate 9 and 6.4" on Mi Mix. Assuming I did the math right that implies that the Mate 9 area in square inches is about 14.9 and the Mi Mix is about 16.9. Please check the width and height of the Mi Mix screen. My estimate is that it about 2.99 inches wide and about 5.656 inches high. Could someone confirm? Thanks!
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I measured the screen and came up with about 2.28 x 4.2.
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I measured the screen and came up with about 2.28 x 4.2.
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Thanks for your input but I think you have made a mistake in your measurement or you are measuring the wrong phone. According to the Pythagorean theorem a width of 2.28 and height of 4.2 (all in inches) would give you a diagonal of less than 4.8 inches! The specs for this phone say the diagonal should be 6.4 inches...
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Thanks for your input but I think you have made a mistake in your measurement or you are measuring the wrong phone. According to the Pythagorean theorem a width of 2.28 and height of 4.2 (all in inches) would give you a diagonal of less than 4.8 inches! The specs for this phone say the diagonal should be 6.4 inches...
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OMG I think i really have a bad measuring tape it was about 5.68 x 2.95
I think you are right about the total area!
16:9 ratio using a2+b2+c2
16 x 16 + 9 x 9 = 337
√337 = 18.36
5.9inch = 149.86mm (Mate 9 diagonal screen size)
149.86/18.36 = 8.16
16 x 8.16 = 130.56
9 x 8.16 = 73.44
Total area = 130.56 x 73.44 = 9588.33mm2 or 95.88cm2
17:9 ratio using a2+b2+c2
17 x 17 + 9 x 9 = 370=c2
√370 = 19.23
6.4inch = 162.56mm (Mi Mix diagonal screen size)
162.56/19.23 = 8.45
17 x 8.45 = 143.65
9 x 8.45 = 76.05
Total area = 143.65 x 76.05 = 10924.58mm2 or 109.25cm2
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OMG I think i really have a bad measuring tape it was about 5.68 x 2.95
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lol. Thanks, that seems about right. It's a little wider than my Mate 9 but a bit taller (Mate 9 is a little less than 5.25 inches). Looks like the Mi Mix is about the same width as my Note Edge. I hope when Xiaomi makes the Mi Mix 2, with presumably the 18:9 ratio, they do not sacrifice the width. I really like the wider screen when reading.
EDIT: Just saw your additional calculations. They pretty much match mine given round off error. Good job!
On band 12, I get the same level of reception as the Samsung Edge 7 my wife has in the same places, not sure how much band 12 actually helps in most areas :0
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On band 12, I get the same level of reception as the Samsung Edge 7 my wife has in the same places, not sure how much band 12 actually helps in most areas :0
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Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.
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Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.
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I'm using my Mi Mix in the UK with EE Network, always top signal 5/5. Wi-fi amazingly fast, 4g coverage also great.
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I'm using my Mi Mix in the UK with EE Network, always top signal 5/5. Wi-fi amazingly fast, 4g coverage also great.
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Sounds great! I'm pretty sure using the phone in the greater Washington area would be fine. Just a little concerned about its use indoors at my job. My employer provides wifi at work but I'm a little wary of using it.
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Sounds great! I'm pretty sure using the phone in the greater Washington area would be fine. Just a little concerned about its use indoors at my job. My employer provides wifi at work but I'm a little wary of using it.
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Hmmm, if other colleagues are having good reception then so should you. Compared to my previous LG V10, the Mi Mix has much better reception, far better then expected...
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Hmmm, if other colleagues are having good reception then so should you. Compared to my previous LG V10, the Mi Mix has much better reception, far better then expected...
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Well, I don't think it is quite that simple as it depends on carrier's band. I just looked up EE's LTE bands and you are probably using Band 3 at 1800MHz and/or Band 38 at 2600MHz. Neither are used in US.. LTE on Tmobile is bands 2, 4 and 12 (the primary bands are 4 and 12) and AT&T is 2, 4, 5, 17 (17 is the primary LTE band) so you are probably in good shape with Tmobile and maybe ok with AT&T although not sure. Bands 12 and 13 are at 700MHz and, as I understand, do best in buildings. Neither of them are on the Mi Mix but, fortunately, bands 2 and 4 are. So I think I will be ok and am looking into buying Mi Mix if price is right.
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Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.
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Yeah band 12 is an assist band, better building /object penetration aspects. In our case the buildings we work in kill just about all band penetration in the center of the structure and some more hardened areas of the building. This includes almost all carriers. With that said out side those kinds of areas I haven't found band 12 to be the deal breaker for non US model phones. Been using T-Mobile for close on 10 years now, and it works perfectly with the Mix.
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Well, I don't think it is quite that simple as it depends on carrier's band. I just looked up EE's LTE bands and you are probably using Band 3 at 1800MHz and/or Band 38 at 2600MHz. Neither are used in US.. LTE on Tmobile is bands 2, 4 and 12 (the primary bands are 4 and 12) and AT&T is 2, 4, 5, 17 (17 is the primary LTE band) so you are probably in good shape with Tmobile and maybe ok with AT&T although not sure. Bands 12 and 13 are at 700MHz and, as I understand, do best in buildings. Neither of them are on the Mi Mix but, fortunately, bands 2 and 4 are. So I think I will be ok and am looking into buying Mi Mix if price is right.
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You were right bro. EE use Band 3-1800MHz & Band 7-2600MHz. Excellent coverage for me both indoors and out.
When will Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 be released?
Why are you guys so eager with Mix 2??? First one's awesome and just a few months old, come on...
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Why are you guys so eager with Mix 2??? First one's awesome and just a few months old, come on...
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I'm not really interested in the Mi Mix 2. And even if I purchase one, it'll be after 4-6 months after release for price drop.
Only just had my Mi Mix for 3 days. Got upto 7 hours Screen On Time so far. Not bad since it was only charged twice. After several more charges, I'll aim for 8-10 hours.
Once the Mi Mix 2 is released it'll be just barely better, perhaps not even worth upgrading to.
It'll have the Snapdragon 835, slightly better camera and 2% or so even better screen to body ratio. Very minor differences.
There are rumours it may have an AMOLED screen. Should this be the case then I'm not interested.
In the past I've had Samsung phones with Amoled and really hated it. At extreme angles the colours are washed out, that ugly yellow and blue tint and the whites are yellowish not to mention I've had dead pixels in almost every phone having Amoled.
Yeah, it would really be a ****er if they go for Amoled...
I can get the lg g6 for 400 euro, the oneplus 5 for 462 euro and the nokia 8 for 492 euro.
Which is better value for money ?
Hello,
LG G6 I didn't have it and tested but I can tell you about OnePlus5, I ordered and used for 2 weeks and I sent back because of poor wifi and mobile signal and also I wasn't sadisfy with picture quality.
Nokia is.... Nokia. I'm happy with my choice. Nokia 8 is great, moving faster as OnePlus5 ( 2GB RAM less is almost unvisible), battery keep the same as OnePlus5, signal on mobile and wifi on Nokia is much better.
Personal I suggest you Nokia 8. I don't know why OnePlus 5 is so promoted because is not better than Lenovo, Xiaomi and other pure China company's.
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I can get the lg g6 for 400 euro, the oneplus 5 for 462 euro and the nokia 8 for 492 euro.
Which is better value for money ?
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And in Oneplus 5 there's jelly effect on scrolling websites. The reason why I bought Nokia 8 finally when I saw that on a friend's phone.
I pre-ordered Oneplus 5, used it about a week... Got so sick of the famous jelly effect on screen that I sent it back. Bought Nokia 8 instead, I have been pleased!
For those who already bought it, how much SoT are you getting?
Is there a BIG performance difference between SD820 and SD835?
I'm on LG V20 and planning to move.
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For those who already bought it, how much SoT are you getting?
Is there a BIG performance difference between SD820 and SD835?
I'm on LG V20 and planning to move.
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I am getting wonderful SOT! 3 to 5 hours.
I can confirm Battery is great here
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I can confirm Battery is great here
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6h42?
With everything on? That's excellent.
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Hi All,
I've noticed bad performance when doing speedtest, let me explain:
I've the mi A2 phone from some day, and an old motorola moto E 2015 LTE
I've done several and several speedtest with my A2 and the moto E2, and always motoE2 outperform A2
with very good signal A2 reach good speed of 55Mb/s
at my home I've two situation: one room where signal is very bad and another room with quite good signal
where the signal is very bad, A2 speedtests is like motoE2 in download, but in upload A2 got value like 0,xx, where the motoE2 reach 3-4 Mb/s
in the room where the signal is better, A2 download is 40% slower than motoE2, but the difference is great in upload, A2 do download speed at 7-12 Mb/s while motoE2 reach 16-20 Mb/s
same comparison at work, but compared with a samsung galaxy S7, here the signal is different, the S7 always reach 50-58 Mb/s, instead with my A2 I reach 26-35 Mb/s
is this behaviur normal for A2 and just motoE2 and S7 have super reception? or my A2 has some problem?
anyone else notice this? or can do some test and comparison with other phone?
many thanks to anyone who will spend some time to understand and/or replicate the problem
ciao