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You guys seen the latest hands on? The mate 20 is nuts. Love my 9, but that camera!
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-mate-20-pro-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-9/
If it was available in the US(VZW), I would definitely be getting it. But our govt doesn't like Huawei.
It's nice and all but it's not a Note. Plus at $1200 I would have to pass unless there were some kind of trade incentive. I don't trust Huawei enough to give them my personal info either.
Yea. the whole potential spying on the customers would be a dent. Then again.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/paranoia-will-destroy-you-why-chinese-tech-isnt-spying-on-us/
I'd presume it's unlikely and probably safe.
Google already spy on everything you do, what's one more set of eyes?
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Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
I was very interested in the Mate 10 a while ago but the one drawback that the Mate 20 series continues with is no support for WiFi calling, which I rely on due to our limited network coverage.
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Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
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What do you do? Yea. Suppose it's similar to the dji and us army fiasco.
bignazpwns said:
Phones are not secure at all. The Chinese government can't keep there phones. Also my work won't allow it to even be in our building. To much sensitive data.
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What do you do? Yea. Suppose it's similar to the dji and us army fiasco.
Performance not good as they claim. After some big problems ( or scandals) they got, I think we need to wait to confirm it good or not.
eMMC instead of UFS on P10/P10+, noisy about Kirin 970 but it not good enough + thermal problem, benchmark cheating ...
Huawei fear mongering sure seems to have worked. I'd still by a Huawei but not at that price.
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It's nice and all but it's not a Note...............
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Exactly,comparing any phone to a Note is kinda pointless.
It's in a class of its own,not necessarily better,but,it's a unicorn.
Buy it for the S-Pen &/or the aesthetic/feel-in-hand,otherwise,there's an ocean of phones to choose from.
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Huawei fear mongering sure seems to have worked. I'd still by a Huawei but not at that price.
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Totally agree,all the mfgs & service providers,regardless of country of origin,use the same playbook,no need to fear one any more (or less) than another,regarding safeguarding your privacy/info.
also, no unlocking of the bootloader, have a mate 10 pro that i keep on a lower firmware since if i update i get a newer version of xloader so i can't downgrade without bricking the device
I don't trust Huawei. They cheated on benchmarks, they lied about camera possibilities on P20 Pro (slo-mo). Not enough convinced in what they claim.
Gotta wonder how that 4200 man battery will do. Maybe lies as well...
Huawei I would not touch again even if someone offered one to me. Great hardware crap software. The way that they think that they are Apple is just beyond joke. Now what I mean by that is EMUI is just a poor version of iOS and the way they restrict third party launchers from working on their phones is beyond joke. The amount of people moaning about the performance when they install pixel launchers is crazy.
I had that issue and I just hate the way they try to make you use Huawei Home launcher and scare you with safety notifications. So for me to be back on Samsung and having the note 9 which has a headphone Jack memory and no notch I say thank you very much.
No lte band 71, no wifi calling. No us warranty.
They chose the winner out of specsheets only? Wow. What a review.
I had a P20 Pro and was pretty disappointed in the camera. Sure the Night Mode was awesome but that was it. Otherwise for the most part it produced highly unrealistic images with waaay too agressive HDR/tone mapping. It really looked terrible at times. I found myself having to work against the camera on the P20 Pro to get the photos I wanted. I much prefer the photos my Note 9 gives me.
Also the P20 Pro had horrible optimization of software. Very choppy specially in all Google apps that stutters a lot. The software is overall pretty aggressive in its RAM handling and you won't get all notifications no matter what you do. The developers of the VLC app blocked Huawei phones from downloading their app becuase of their background process restrictions.
I do like Huawei and I've had a few of their phones but I do not like the direction they are taking with their cameras specifically.
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also, no unlocking of the bootloader, have a mate 10 pro that i keep on a lower firmware since if i update i get a newer version of xloader so i can't downgrade without bricking the device
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We now able to unlock bl for about 55$ even latest devices
Update: 23$ for get unlock code faster ( than 20$ )
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We now able to unlock bl for about 55$ even latest devices
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maybe, but no downgrading without bricking.
also, super slow updates...
never a huawei phone again.
i work in IT and have been "bribed" (free dinners with lots of alcohol) by huawei to get us to switch from cisco to their stuff in several datacenters.
Hi community,
My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
After reading through countless comparison reviews and articles, I understood that the Mate 20 Pro was the slightly better of the two and I really was all stoked to buy it when suddenly I stumbled across that display 'Gluegate' problem that has befallen most phones that are currently circulating on the market.
Since I really do not like the idea of paying 1000€ only to get a phone that I can sign up for repair immediately after, I've become hesitant about buying it now. The more I keep reading on here or similar blogs, the longer the list of negative aspects about the Mate 20 Pro seems to get.
I could look at a demo in a local store nearby and while it is really big compared to my actual HTC M9, that's something I could probably get used to. However, I found that notch super annoying. You may be able to disable it in the settings, but that still doesn't give you more space for icons in the tray. It seems as if only 3 or 4 icons fit in the tray above because that stupid notch is physically blocking the space. Will I still receive notifications from apps whose icon won't fit in the tray because it's full due to the notch?
In terms of camera quality: is the Mate 20 Pro significantly better/suprerior to the P20 Pro? I could get the P20 Pro for nearly hafl the price now and at the moment I'm totally not sure if I'm ready to pay 1000 bucks for the Mate 20 Pro with a faulty display, a way too small tray bar and with people complaining about pre-developed UI like EMUI and supposedly mediocre camera quality...
Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi community,
My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
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Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
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Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
SPfuns said:
Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
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Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
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Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
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M20pro screen fingerprints and 3d consume a lot of power, if you turn off fingerprint recognition, there will be more power. The mate 20 pro plan to uses 5000. Because it can't support 40 watts to change 4200.
I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
Had the same dilemma a few weeks back. Mate 20 Pro or P20 Pro to replace my previous Mate 10. Ended up with the Mate 20 Pro and trust me when I tell you that the Mate 20 Pro's Kirin 980 is so much faster than the P20 Pro's Kirin 970 which is the same SOC of the Mate 10. Mate 20 Pro is a true beast and camera is outstanding while battery life is great even better than the Mate 10.
Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
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Not for me. Came from the Mate 10 then to the Mate 20 Pro and cam is faster to focus and load with the Mate 20 Pro. Mate 10 and P20 Pro uses the same ISP from the same SOC.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
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Face unlock for me is great and faster than the face unlock feature of the Mate 10 which uses the same tech as the P20 Pro. I can unlock the phone using 3D Face Unlock even at low light something which I can barely do on the Mate 10 at dim lighting conditions.
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
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So does every Android phone with the notch so no big deal for me.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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Kirin 980 on the Mate 20 Pro is no joke coming from the Kirin 970 of the Mate 10. Everything else is faster, smoother and its like you can do any task a lot faster than on any Android smartphone as of this time.
dladz said:
I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The design of the phone is superb.
Warp charge is amazing.
I like the orange it's brilliant.
Mclaren make the best cars in the world in my opinion and many others.
It's half the price of a competing phone, ie: S10 / Phone XS
At this point in time it is the best phone there is, for development, for speed, for charging, for design, for many things.
Not to mention 10GB of RAM.
Comparing the Pro or the Mate to any Oneplus phone is futile, owners of either phone are going to give delusional comments about the opposite phone.
Personally as a user of XDA and a long time ROM flasher since the G1 days, i honestly couldn't have a phone without root and without removing the shackles which essentially turns it into a cheap iPhone clone.
That's my opinion, which the OP had asked for.
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Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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First, (fan)boy are you triggered much..
Second, my experience stands and foam around your mouth doesn't change that. It's also a subjective thing, so "correcting" my recommendation is silly. The OP wants opinions, mine isn't worse than yours.
Third, I know a thing or two about phones. Nice slight, nice try.
Fourth.. see attachment. There's space for exactly one icon, whether you like it or not, "expert" phone tips not relevant.
I recommend the P20P.
P20 pro takes worse photos my A$$!!
The monochrome sensor still superior when it comes to photos specially in the dark environment and details in general, even the paid YouTube reviewers to braise the wide angel lense can't deny that
as for video recording both are considered the worst with the rest of Kirin powered phones. but the mate 20 pro can take stabilized bad videos in 4k.
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
As much as I love this phone, I hate it just as much. Do yourself a favour and get something with a Snapdragon processor and something that can be bootloader unlocked. Pixel or a One Plus. Even consider the Xiaomi if it's price you're after.
Warp charge is amazing.
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Warp charge gets smoked by Huawei's 40W Supercharge:https://www.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php
https://youtu.be/UxlWYzrZweM
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
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Sorry but the Kirin 980 is much faster than Krin 970. I came from Mate 10 to Mate 20 Pro and I can tell the difference.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
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I highly doubt this. Using the Mate 20 Pro as the same resolution with the P20 Pro's FHD+ will definitely result into better battery life in favor of the Mate 20 Pro.
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
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Fyi, not all units are affected so please do not generalize. Half the price where is that mate? In my area there is a USD 200 price difference and even 2nd hand units of the P20 Pro won't be half the value of the Mate 20 Pro.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
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Sorry mate but that is a downgrade to the max. Slower processor, lower resolution, slower charging, etc. Don't get me wrong, the P20 Pro is a great device but its about 8 months old in the market already. No need to disrespect and bash Mate 20 Pro users if you don't like it please. Thanks!
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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Totally agree, I came to XDA because most people here did.
But less and less are. Plus the OEMs are making it harder.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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My wife and some friends have stock and they get by so they're functional. But there are too many benefits to ignore root
FYI, you can also hide icons on the status bar by using 3rd app such as SystemUItuner. You can make 2 empty slots at least. That's enough for me.
I hate this type of question, 1 or 2? Most of the people asking neither buy the products they ask for others opinion.. Lol
hey guys, mate is still best! What do you think???
https://youtu.be/6EHQvYTKSWo
i picked mate 20 pro because the the camera punch hole in the s10 would drive me completely insane, worst design i've ever seen on a phone i think
mate 20 here would trade if i could
s10+ becausemy opinion only)
its newer
best battery :less capacity but better performance
best sound: louder and clearer
best screen : its a samsung nothing can beat this guys
camera photo same results dxomarks but its release firmware so it will get even better
best selfie by far
best video by far: we all know mate 20 pro is very bad
best 4k and 4k60fps: jelly efect on mate. cant deal with 4k60fps
best slow mo not fake 960. mate 20 pro was a interpollated 240 fps to seem it is making 960 fps
i have a mate 20 pro because what i said was kinda valid instead of note 9 some months ago.
mate 30 or even p30 pro i think will beat s10+
this is a 3 months king phone period so what you choose today in months it will be old news.
Yeah, the s10+ on paper is better than mate 20 pro.
Better screen, a faster chip, louder speakers, better camera software ( imo mate 20 raw camera performance is better),...
But in day to day use there will not be any huge differences except the punch hole display vs notch. With that said most of the games or apps I use even with the hole punch u will have black bars on the side, hell even youtube app has those unless u are willing to zoom in and cut part of the video (I hate all those reviews on youtube that zoom in the content just for the sake of having it fullscreen while in reality u will have to deal with blackbars if u dont want to cut off the top and bottom).
One thing I absolutely love it about the mate 20 pro but others seems to sleep on is the charging speed. I usually fall as sleep while watching random stuffs on my phone at night. And this is when super charge come in to save my ass. It charges a whooping 70% after my brushing, showering and shaving routine in the next morning. Im doubted the s10+ or even future note 10 could do the same. For me thats a game changer, now I can freely enjoy my sleep without waking up in the middle of the night remembering havent charge the phone yet.
I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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wow, orders a new phone just because of AOD? do you have to much money or sever OCD ither way hope u like your new s10+
yes i'm jelly
I will obviously be selling the Mate if I keep the S10+ I'm not made of money!
AOD is a feature that I value, hoped I'd get used to it on the M20 pro maybe if the LED was not so small I would have but ultimately it just continues to bug me.
Overall I think the S10+ is the better phone except for not having proper face unlock.
Huawei really do need to up their AOD game but can't see it happening.
I don't think the hole punch design would bother me. I've never been bothered by notches (I had an iPhone X before the M20pro.)
Still, I can't upgrade until November so will see what the Mate 30 Pro has to offer.
3D face unlock is a gimmick of the past, from now on manufacturers will rely on Under display sensors and maximizing screen to body ratio in the coming years, Samsung is light years ahead in terms of UX and unmatched audio/video quality for android device, although they slack with implementing new camera tech, it's a choice
i just got the mate 20 pro with my carrier . To get the s10 would of costed me 500$ extra so for me it was an easy decision to get the mate 20 pro.
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I have the S10 plus arriving this week.
Ultimately it will be nice to have a proper functional always on display again, the lack of this on the Mate 20 pro has become something that bugs me every day and if Huawei added a proper AOD I'd probably cancel my S10 pre-order. It will also be nice have the volume sync properly on my bluetooth headphones.
Is a shame as the Mate 20 pro gets so much right.
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2 things that are prolly the weakest points on this phone. However I have decided to keep the mate 20 pro (for now though I'm very tempted) and not get the s10 plus. For me the best feature of the mate is the super charge vs the slow ass charge on the s10. Like another poster above mentioned, I have not micro managed this phone charge wise ever since I got it. I used to charge all my Samsungs every night to 100 but on this phone I never do!
Also, I love the fact that EMUI desktop can be done wirelessly unlike the s10 plus Dex. There's just too many things that I really love about the mate. I have been on ever Galaxy s and note device ever been out. I just came from the note 9 , which is collecting dust, to the mate 20 pro and I really really love this phone. From the way it feels in the hand (it's still slimmer by about 2mm compared to the s10 plus, to the way it looks. I think it's very unique looking and much better than the generic looking s10. Also the mate is a beast and I still think that EMUI (no matter how much people hate it) is a far more optimized and efficient software than Samsung's. I'm running Nova launcher and I have it set just the way I like it, so EMUI doesn't give me anything negative, only the positive such as awesome battery management, supeer fast and responsive interact interface, etc...
What are others folks thoughts on this??
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2 things that are prolly the weakest points on this phone. However I have decided to keep the mate 20 pro (for now though I'm very tempted) and not get the s10 plus. For me the best feature of the mate is the super charge vs the slow ass charge on the s10. Like another poster above mentioned, I have not micro managed this phone charge wise ever since I got it. I used to charge all my Samsungs every night to 100 but on this phone I never do!
Also, I love the fact that EMUI desktop can be done wirelessly unlike the s10 plus Dex. There's just too many things that I really love about the mate. I have been on ever Galaxy s and note device ever been out. I just came from the note 9 , which is collecting dust, to the mate 20 pro and I really really love this phone. From the way it feels in the hand (it's still slimmer by about 2mm compared to the s10 plus, to the way it looks. I think it's very unique looking and much better than the generic looking s10. Also the mate is a beast and I still think that EMUI (no matter how much people hate it) is a far more optimized and efficient software than Samsung's. I'm running Nova launcher and I have it set just the way I like it, so EMUI doesn't give me anything negative, only the positive such as awesome battery management, supeer fast and responsive interact interface, etc...
What are others folks thoughts on this??
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I am on the fence re S10 vs the plus. The normal 10 looks a great size and is slightly smaller than the mate too. I too had the Note, it was a beast but I managed it, it was also easier in the hand vs say the Xs max, I have also had the S9 plus. There is something about the normal S10 or Mate though that falls into that goldilocks zone size wise. I think the bigger phones are nice with the larger screen but even if you ignore the one-handed use thing they are also more of a burden to carry around at times.
I'm concerned re the camera and expect the mate to have the better shooter. The battery management on the Mate will also be better I think even if it does come with the downside of it sometimes shutting down apps that you do not want it too.
I'm currently in the same boat to renew my contract with my service provider and really struggle with the decision which phone to pick...
IMHO the Mate 20 Pro is still the best phone out there, but Huawei's and FunkyHuawei's recent stupidities are both not making this decision very easy.
I currently own a Sony and was always happy with it and their software / firmware update policy and speed, except for the bootloader unlock, which wipes a DRM key and breaks some phone capabilities, which can't be restored anymore. For older phones it's still possible to circumvent that, but forget it on newer phones. That drived me away from Sony and although I really love the Mate 20 Pro's specs and internals... I think I would have a very hard time without an unlocked bootloader. F***, why are companies so stupid?!
That said... and although I'm not a Samsung fanboy... I'm that close to just turn around from this phone and choose an S10 model or pick an LG instead. Also for a higher price... Currently I'm just desperately waiting if anybody provides a bootloader unlock service for Huawei and that recent dark chapter for this brand becomes again less relevant.
My 5 cents...
As far as I see it, Samsung is the Apple of Android so won't touch them. Never been one to go for the companies with the biggest advertising budgets mainly HTC's and Sony's perviously and now on the Mate 20 Pro and so far it's been exactly what I thought it would be. Some reviewers go on about how bad the EMUI skin is, can't say I'm too bothered, if I have to tap the screen once more than a Samsung device to get to a particular setting (you know one that's "buried deep down" in the system) then I'm sure I'll live. The S10+ is basically a Mate 20 pro with newer internals that give marginally better performance levels, in the real world there's no difference - you might lose 0.01 of a second opening an app - if that's too long to wait you might have to re-evaluate where you are right now Both phones will still be holding their own in two years time and with the Mate's price dropping steadily you could pick one up for £200 less than the S10+, is there that much of a difference between the two? No, paying £200 more for a name is the preserve of the rich or daft, and I'm neither of those
djingonthenet said:
As far as I see it, Samsung is the Apple of Android so won't touch them. Never been one to go for the companies with the biggest advertising budgets mainly HTC's and Sony's perviously [...] No, paying £200 more for a name is the preserve of the rich or daft, and I'm neither of those
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I could not agree more to the statements. Same as you I have also always chosen the underdogs (loved my HTC Desire HD by the way), but when you seriously start to think who actually are the current bad guys, I would not name Samsung first. IMHO companies should ship their phones with an unlocked bootloader and not penalize the users for unlocking their phones (Sony) or not allow them to do so (Huawei). If it would be still possible to get the unlock codes I wouldn't even think twice which phone to pick. Sadly as things stand I have to confess to consider buying my first Samsung phone. LG would also be an option, but the problem on the latter is as well, that they simply don't allow to unlock every of their phones... Crap...
The lack of proper face unlock on the S10 might be a deal breaker. It's now been proved to be really insecure. The face unlock on the Mate is amazing.
Apart from that, the phones are really similar.
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The lack of proper face unlock on the S10 might be a deal breaker. It's now been proved to be really insecure. The face unlock on the Mate is amazing.
Apart from that, the phones are really similar.
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Love my mate 20 pro, I was fortunate I didn't have the green screen problem! I do like switching phones but brought it outright and just on a monthly sim only contract for £10 a month.
As others have said, I used to charge my old Samsung's to 100% every night, I top mine up and normally keep mine between 25-85% doesn't really matter where as I have the 40w charger at work and home and can get that 50% in about 20 mins.
Love the phone wide angle & telephoto cameras, the reviews are raving about these on the s10plus but seem to forget these were already available for years on the LG G series and the mate 20 pro since Sept last year. I know there is a slightly wider FOV on the S10plus.
Going to keep going with the mate 20 pro battery has not seen any performance degrade over the 6 months I've had it too which is great, with Nova launcher I don't use the EMUI.
I choose s10+.
because finger reader better other phone. But I like face Id in iphone. Mate 20 pro face id is a joke.
And green screen problem, I skip mate 20 pro.
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I choose s10+.
Mate 20 pro face id is a joke.
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Yeah, right.
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Hi! this is my first time to post about my Mi9T Pro (Global version) "6/128" that i bought yesterday here in Philippines..
my issue is only Noticeable in Playing Games like Competetive like "PUBG, Call of Duty, ROS, any Games! i think all of them ?? what i mean is.. a HUGE TOUCH DELAY!! when your 2 thumbs are on the Screen and your right Thumb swipe faster to rotate 360 is not that accurate.. i can really Feel it as a GAMER. i bought this Device more on GAMING, because of Notchless Design and AMOLED panel.
when i Play any Games i mean the Dragging on Screen Sensitivity when Scoping or Not. its not accurately going on point where i swipe my thumb.. for Example: i swipe upwards.. it goes upwards also but theres a shaking on Screen.. i cant AIM properly..
soo is there any solution on this?? can a Custom ROM or Kernel can fix this?? cause i will Unlock my Bootloader immidietly! i dont have Tempered Glass installed. only the stock Casing that are intack on the Phone.. nothing else..
soo i need your advice! im currently on 10.3.3.0 (PFKMIXM) version. latest Stable
Sadly, the touchscreen on this phone is terrible. Let's hope the new MIUI 11 software update coming in the next few weeks would solve the issue.
i dont think Android 10 can solve this..
its a hardware issue and common problem in all xiaomi device , just a matter if you are affected or not . i guess its all because of cheap low quality touch panel to cutting cost.
Did you solve this issue???? Im buy MI 9T pro and play CODM too. I also meet your problem
A) Take it back and get a new one; or
B) request a warranty repair.
However, if it's not purchased from an "authorized reseller" Xiaomi will avoid taking any responsibility for the problem. They did the same to me with the Redmi 5 Plus - widely known touchpanel fault - 100% manufacturer issue, zero help. Tons of users of that device have all manner of input freezes.
At the end of the day what matters is that you're happy with it - after all, it's your money. Make sure the seller takes you seriously. With issues like this it can be a pain to get sorted - as the phone might appear and be perceived as working "normally" but evidently the touchscreen isn't behaving ideally in videogames. Given you bought a high-end phone specifically for this purpose, make sure they take it seriously.
If the replacement handset still suffers the same issue you're describing then I'd suggest getting a refund altogether if possible. I can't say I've had issues here and I tried PUBG mobile which works fine (albeit the touchscreen controls don't feel natural anyway) - but as someone whom is very perceptive to faults other people don't notice (like frame jitter, ghosting, screen bleed, dead pixels or crappy acoustics) it can really grind my gears when tech products don't hit the mark. You need to make sure it suits your needs - it is, after all, a 'flagship-type' phone. If PUBG mobile doesn't feel right on another BNIB Mi9T Pro then it might be worth spending a little more and going for a OnePlus 7.
I recently had an expensive 'freescrolling' mouse that kept subtly scrolling up a few lines by itself after I scrolled down. You could live with it but I've not had that from even cheap Chinese mice.
I don't wanna buy again stuff before of 5 years and I hope it will get support for Android 10.
What is the best buy? All of these are in a range of 259 - 179 Euro. I saw that the Z3 C even if it is very old is the best in weight and measure which I was looking for, it also has not that privacy horror of digital reading and irid scan etc... which I despise.
Please can anyone help me especially in terms of Android upgrade as I can't last long with Android 6-7 nor 8 and also 9 won't be good enough for long I guess.
Tons of incompatibilities start to come out and I don't know also if the Z3C is ok to support a Android 10 with 2 Gb RAM and apps installed or if the same is true for the other 2 phones.
I know that Sony is not in good waters in terms of mobiles compartment... they might even close it... but the phones should stay good maybe for 5+ years, I guess. (?)
Obviously below is personal opinion, but here it is.
Xz1 if you could get it. But many versions of the phone sold on ebay are refurbished units sold as new. You can get Android 10 though. But do u really want a refurbished phone. Read the buyer reviews of the seller, there are negative reviews of purchases stated as new, but actually referb.
X compact you can get a real new unit for super cheap. Half the price of xz1c. It's specs, camera etc are good enough. Just it's latest Android is 8 officially, 9 with root.
For me, I would go with x compact. Because I want a truly new unit.
I won't choose z3, because it does not have USB c, and it's camera is slightly below average. It's a flat, dull camera. Admittedly it's size and software support is best, but USBc and can are deal braker for me in 2020.
Yes It's very hard to get it new. Thanks. I am going for the X Compact mostly probably. Infact an android 10 capable I can understand could last very very longer than a android 8 capable, maybe if I get the X Compact to 9 (I doubt it will) I will be able to keep it for 5 years at least. For me the consumerism, sorry is really a horrible sickness people have.
It's like watching war and saying, it's ok. it's normal.
I really appreciate your answer, it's so sad to be alone asking for support but no answer here and there
I hope i can get or the x1c or the x c, and also I dnt know what will be the result of the upgrade to 10 or to 9 respectively speaking. I heard it can lead to "breaking" also warming up etc.
Stuff my note 3 did constantly, also battery was dead in a few minutes, also changed batteries.. bah... I just know that they need to stay away from the sun, away from humidity, away from dust,.. just like pc, away from magnetic "storm" or sources... often stuff we criticize is caused by our use.
I also ignore if actually phones need to be kept between 15% and 80% always.. never allowing battery to go below. Only in the first day a super charge need to be given (keeping the phone for 24-48 h switched off and at 100 ...keeping on charging.
Thanks I got the X Compact, i really like that it is small, i know it's not good to watch videos as it can really ruin eyes a small screen, but I promise myself I am not gonna use it for that much.
... Got it for 185 Euro.. no way to get it for lower price new...
Glad I can jump from 5.0.2 of my note 3 now broken to the 8... I hope i can also jump to 9, but I have no idea if this is doable without risking a lot...\ instability etc.
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Thanks I got the X Compact, i really like that it is small, i know it's not good to watch videos as it can really ruin eyes a small screen, but I promise myself I am not gonna use it for that much.
... Got it for 185 Euro.. no way to get it for lower price new...
Glad I can jump from 5.0.2 of my note 3 now broken to the 8... I hope i can also jump to 9, but I have no idea if this is doable without risking a lot...\ instability etc.
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I didn't see this until now. X Compact is the right choice. I love the XZ1C - it has the best hardware, performance, and Android 10 support right now. But unfortunately not possible to have GCam HDR and raw image support on it, that's a deal breaker to me. Also, it's a lost more expensive than the XC currently.
I use the XC as my current device, it requires tweaking to set it up correctly but if you spend time testing, you can get a lot out of it.
Hey thanks, it's coming home, and I am thankful. I was a stupid to break the note 3. It's strange, now it seems to consume battery much slower then before... ok whatever. I use it like a music player now as I work in the outdoors or do sports alone these days.
I really hope the tweaking (If necessary - maybe the android 9 version might be needed in the future if not immediately) doesn't brick or damage it, it would be a horror (I know many do this when it's out of warranty (2 years would be since we are lucky in EU, much better treatment than US or other places) if it breaks.
I'd love to learn also and maybe be able to go back to 8th (to which supposedly it will update autonomously to) how one should do this updates and decide how or when it's the time to do that. Also my note was over heating .. some say that this happens when some app is spying etc... probably bugged by police or gangs. I dnt know, I know that we are all targets.
I just hope I can put a cover on the lenses (I used a idraulic tape on the note and the cover was doing the rest) I know how much privacy breaking those open lens can be. I dnt have nothing to hide, I am just aware how precious privacy is (so many aren't)... and it's not phobia. I just think all need to work and do their little to keep it good for all in the future.
Sorry for the long message. I really am looking forward to learn some stuff, maybe I can share with others I meet on my path and redirect them here.
Thanks, and take care.