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Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?
I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.
orangecroc said:
I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Sorry pal I meant lack of ROMs.
8 hours? Not bad but consider if it was as well optimized as hear vanilla phones.
Oneplus 5 835 - No limits ROM. 14 hours 30 minutes.
Battery size is 3400 Vs the Huawei having 4000
Lol I expected more
We should be clearing 10 hours daily
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Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.
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Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.
dladz said:
Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?
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I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.
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That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.
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That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.
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All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.
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I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, :laugh:
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now
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All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.
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Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.
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Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.
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Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.
The camera, battery, design, screen, storage space, are all far above my expectations. Well done huawei. I'm very glad I did the change from oneplus and Samsung.
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Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, [emoji23]
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now
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Wow.
That makes you at least seventy.
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dladz said:
Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.
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I think op held back on the battery and going to improve it for o6t
Sold mine. The software update situation was just a joke and frustrated me more than the benefits the rest of the device brought to me.
Shame but learnt my lesson now. Pixel or OnePlus devices for me going forward.
I'm having mixed feelings about the device. I have bought it twice, as I wasn't happy, so I could compare and find out if the problem is the device or me.
So far, I'm very happy with build quality, usability, design, screen and functionality. The camera of my second device is better than the one of the first, but I'm struggling to get good battery life with both. 3 hours DOT, maybe four if I'm lucky. I think that's not really good, and as both devices behave like this, the problem must be me. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong, as even my old rusty iPhone 6 can give me 3 hours of DOT, so I expected a lot more in this aspect. Other than that, I really like this device.
It's amazing
The missing notifications from some apps is a problem, wish someone could do a guide about how to fix that
Also, battery drains pretty fast, i can't get a full-day through it
Are VoLTE and VoWIFI draining the battery faster, any thoughts on that?
Best phoned I ever had. Slow at getting upgrades but can live without it. Battery, camera, performance are fantastic. How people can complain about the battery life? I am a heavy user and and can't kill the battery in one day
I get 3 hours SOT. I don‘t think that‘s stellar.
I switched from Samsung to p20 pro and thats the best ive ever done.
I love the p20 pro, its amazing, the screen, the smotheness, the SOT and so on.....
Greetz
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
xphyle1971 said:
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
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I have it in writing from Huawei support that we were getting these updates.... The face unlock and the gpu turbo... I also have a BLA-A09 Mate 10 Pro. This does piss me off...
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KevinAce said:
I have it in writing from Huawei support that we were getting these updates.... The face unlock and the gpu turbo... I also have a BLA-A09 Mate 10 Pro. This does piss me off...
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Unfortunately, technical support people just read from a script and are likely the last to know the truth.
xphyle1971 said:
Looks like the USA is getting screwed by Huawei. Likely due to its treatment by the US government. This pisses me off because I have a USA Mate 10 Pro that rarely gets any updates. How do I rebrand this piece of ****?
androidauthority.com/huawei-gpu-turbo-update-phone-list-886196/
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If you unlocked the bootloader. You can manually flash the .img via fastboot or twrp. But judging from the way you describe your situation; you havent unlock your' device thus may not be rebrand or mnually update.
I just called huawei and ripped them a new a**hole. I suggest everyone do the same.
Huawei Customer Service 1-888-548-2934
They claimed that the "rumors" are not official and the updates will come in batches and although the usa variant has not been officially announced they "are working on it".
I specifically quoted android authority and after checking they said that news is "misleading"
Ugh.. tagging along here as well from the USA. I love my Mate 10 just hate that we dont get the new goodies. I was hoping not to deal with unlocking and such.
pickupman66 said:
Ugh.. tagging along here as well from the USA. I love my Mate 10 just hate that we dont get the new goodies. I was hoping not to deal with unlocking and such.
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And now that Huawei is not allowing to unlock bootloader, it's gonna be really hard to do something if something comes up, like rebranding or something.
you can just use https://www.dc-unlocker.com/ to unlock the bootloader
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And now that Huawei is not allowing to unlock bootloader, it's gonna be really hard to do something if something comes up, like rebranding or something.
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I got my unlock code when I first got the phone just in case. just never processed it because there was not a need.
granted my device has been flawless for me. No BT issues, no reboots. it works quite well. wifi hot spot was enabled too which i could not do with a google device unless I rooted
Oh so what if you bought a 2000 dollar proche design mate 10
Spoilerman said:
Oh so what if you bought a 2000 dollar proche design mate 10
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If you did that, you probably have enough money to buy the international version of the phone.
GPU turbo isn't a big deal at all.
You should all have read about the benchmark cheating of Kirin 970 devices and by now you should have read that the Mate 10 Pro is inferior to a Snapdragon 820 in terms of GPU.
Getting ~10% better performance out of a GPU that is worse than the Snapdragon 820 will do nothing.
Just don't buy Huawei devices in the future.
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GPU turbo isn't a big deal at all.
You should all have read about the benchmark cheating of Kirin 970 devices and by now you should have read that the Mate 10 Pro is inferior to a Snapdragon 820 in terms of GPU.
Getting ~10% better performance out of a GPU that is worse than the Snapdragon 820 will do nothing.
Just don't buy Huawei devices in the future.
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I have noticed a massive improvement playing Pubg mobile. framerates are not necessarily higher but no overheating anymore and no framedrops, its a lot smoother now and unlike before i can play a full 30min match without having 15fps at the end of the game. I agree that huawei is nto a good choice for gaming though.... I feel like the gpu turbo was a necessity rather than "great product support"
Hey everyone,
I just had to do some clean-up on this thread. I understand that there are definitely some feelings on both sides of the argument here, but regardless of where you stand, politics are not allowed on XDA (see XDA Forum Rule 2.4).
We are a forum dedicated to tinkering with our mobile devices. Let's remember that we are a community of people with similar interests and focus on that instead of focusing on all the negative crap going on in the world.
Thanks!
rwilco12
Hi community,
My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
After reading through countless comparison reviews and articles, I understood that the Mate 20 Pro was the slightly better of the two and I really was all stoked to buy it when suddenly I stumbled across that display 'Gluegate' problem that has befallen most phones that are currently circulating on the market.
Since I really do not like the idea of paying 1000€ only to get a phone that I can sign up for repair immediately after, I've become hesitant about buying it now. The more I keep reading on here or similar blogs, the longer the list of negative aspects about the Mate 20 Pro seems to get.
I could look at a demo in a local store nearby and while it is really big compared to my actual HTC M9, that's something I could probably get used to. However, I found that notch super annoying. You may be able to disable it in the settings, but that still doesn't give you more space for icons in the tray. It seems as if only 3 or 4 icons fit in the tray above because that stupid notch is physically blocking the space. Will I still receive notifications from apps whose icon won't fit in the tray because it's full due to the notch?
In terms of camera quality: is the Mate 20 Pro significantly better/suprerior to the P20 Pro? I could get the P20 Pro for nearly hafl the price now and at the moment I'm totally not sure if I'm ready to pay 1000 bucks for the Mate 20 Pro with a faulty display, a way too small tray bar and with people complaining about pre-developed UI like EMUI and supposedly mediocre camera quality...
Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
Marvolo1590 said:
Hi community,
My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
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Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
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Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
SPfuns said:
Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
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Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
deekbee said:
Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
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M20pro screen fingerprints and 3d consume a lot of power, if you turn off fingerprint recognition, there will be more power. The mate 20 pro plan to uses 5000. Because it can't support 40 watts to change 4200.
I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
Had the same dilemma a few weeks back. Mate 20 Pro or P20 Pro to replace my previous Mate 10. Ended up with the Mate 20 Pro and trust me when I tell you that the Mate 20 Pro's Kirin 980 is so much faster than the P20 Pro's Kirin 970 which is the same SOC of the Mate 10. Mate 20 Pro is a true beast and camera is outstanding while battery life is great even better than the Mate 10.
Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
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Not for me. Came from the Mate 10 then to the Mate 20 Pro and cam is faster to focus and load with the Mate 20 Pro. Mate 10 and P20 Pro uses the same ISP from the same SOC.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
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Face unlock for me is great and faster than the face unlock feature of the Mate 10 which uses the same tech as the P20 Pro. I can unlock the phone using 3D Face Unlock even at low light something which I can barely do on the Mate 10 at dim lighting conditions.
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
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So does every Android phone with the notch so no big deal for me.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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Kirin 980 on the Mate 20 Pro is no joke coming from the Kirin 970 of the Mate 10. Everything else is faster, smoother and its like you can do any task a lot faster than on any Android smartphone as of this time.
dladz said:
I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The design of the phone is superb.
Warp charge is amazing.
I like the orange it's brilliant.
Mclaren make the best cars in the world in my opinion and many others.
It's half the price of a competing phone, ie: S10 / Phone XS
At this point in time it is the best phone there is, for development, for speed, for charging, for design, for many things.
Not to mention 10GB of RAM.
Comparing the Pro or the Mate to any Oneplus phone is futile, owners of either phone are going to give delusional comments about the opposite phone.
Personally as a user of XDA and a long time ROM flasher since the G1 days, i honestly couldn't have a phone without root and without removing the shackles which essentially turns it into a cheap iPhone clone.
That's my opinion, which the OP had asked for.
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Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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First, (fan)boy are you triggered much..
Second, my experience stands and foam around your mouth doesn't change that. It's also a subjective thing, so "correcting" my recommendation is silly. The OP wants opinions, mine isn't worse than yours.
Third, I know a thing or two about phones. Nice slight, nice try.
Fourth.. see attachment. There's space for exactly one icon, whether you like it or not, "expert" phone tips not relevant.
I recommend the P20P.
P20 pro takes worse photos my A$$!!
The monochrome sensor still superior when it comes to photos specially in the dark environment and details in general, even the paid YouTube reviewers to braise the wide angel lense can't deny that
as for video recording both are considered the worst with the rest of Kirin powered phones. but the mate 20 pro can take stabilized bad videos in 4k.
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
As much as I love this phone, I hate it just as much. Do yourself a favour and get something with a Snapdragon processor and something that can be bootloader unlocked. Pixel or a One Plus. Even consider the Xiaomi if it's price you're after.
Warp charge is amazing.
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Warp charge gets smoked by Huawei's 40W Supercharge:https://www.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php
https://youtu.be/UxlWYzrZweM
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
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Sorry but the Kirin 980 is much faster than Krin 970. I came from Mate 10 to Mate 20 Pro and I can tell the difference.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
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I highly doubt this. Using the Mate 20 Pro as the same resolution with the P20 Pro's FHD+ will definitely result into better battery life in favor of the Mate 20 Pro.
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
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Fyi, not all units are affected so please do not generalize. Half the price where is that mate? In my area there is a USD 200 price difference and even 2nd hand units of the P20 Pro won't be half the value of the Mate 20 Pro.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
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Sorry mate but that is a downgrade to the max. Slower processor, lower resolution, slower charging, etc. Don't get me wrong, the P20 Pro is a great device but its about 8 months old in the market already. No need to disrespect and bash Mate 20 Pro users if you don't like it please. Thanks!
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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Totally agree, I came to XDA because most people here did.
But less and less are. Plus the OEMs are making it harder.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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My wife and some friends have stock and they get by so they're functional. But there are too many benefits to ignore root
FYI, you can also hide icons on the status bar by using 3rd app such as SystemUItuner. You can make 2 empty slots at least. That's enough for me.
I hate this type of question, 1 or 2? Most of the people asking neither buy the products they ask for others opinion.. Lol
So alot of people (especially in the UK) will be coming to the end of contract and life cycle on the p20. The question is....what next.
Do we go p40 without Google services or look at something different?
Iv loved the p20, it's been reliable and solid, but I'm a Google loyalist. I use the services and apps and the idea of losing apps iv paid for already on Google play just seems a step to far.
Iv found updates painfully slow to arrive through O2, months and months behind. So definitely an unlocked from carrier handset next.
But what one?
Samsung
One Plus
Or something completely different?
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
If you want updates to your phone, you have 2 choices. Iphone or pixel.
OnePlus is super easy to unlock the bootloader and will not void the warranty. Then just use lineageOS.
I had enough of of the Huawei software. I was expecting Android 10 by now, but nothings been said about that release for a while now.
Add locked bootloaders and no development, made a rather boring phone. It was the only Android phone I've ever had which didn't even get a working TWRP after 2 years!
I went for the Pixel 4XL yesterday, and I'm very happy with it. Bootloader unlocked, rooted and GPay working fine
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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It's supposed to be splash proof. Regular mi 10 has bigger battery but pro version has better camera.
If you care about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
I've never owned Xiaomi and frankly speaking I am bit curious, especially that this year they claim they won't compete with other flagships with price factor only. I guess I'll order it online, use it and return it within 14 days if I don't like it. Samsung is not an option to me as I want a handset with SD 865 and my region is "blessed" with their Exynos. Pixel is overpriced on the other hand and designwise...just horrible. I'd rather go for OP if their quality check is improved this year.
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If you case about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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I'm sure you're right about previous releases. Thank you for your feedback. It's good to hear some critical voice before the final decision is made. However there are already camera comparisons between mi 10 pro and s20 ultra and these pics/videos looks pretty good. Mi 10 pro camera is supposed to be revolutionary and able to compete with other flagships. Well we'll see.
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
Why do you need to upgrade? I'm holding off here in the UK until 5G becomes a reality and decent phones are available. New phones for 2020 so far (and into the Q2) don't really offer anything above what I currently have hardware wise. The phone works fine for me, battery lasts > 1 day even after 2 years.
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Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I am with EE, by far the best in London, Liverpool and Manchester for all the places I visit, getting expensive now but that fits perfectly for me...
What gives you the idea that EE will have the OnePlus , as in the new one?
That is the one I want.
For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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Honestly for me so long as ois is on the camera and it's got "some" development, the screen is 90hz or over..I'm in.
The rest is a bonus.
Oh and I miss that DND hardware switch
Apparently waterproofing, wireless charging is all on its way.
My only problem will be the price if they're all added, personally I couldn't care less about wireless charging, not when it idles so well and charges as fast as it does..maybe if I started using it I'd become a fan but I can't see it at the moment.
Time will tell.
Plus if they don't have the 8 pro on my carrier I ain't getting it lol.
I read some news what said there will be no EMUI 10.1 for the P20 Pro.
What the duck, is this for real?
no one know...i think no emui 10 for p20 pro....lol
10.0 has started coming out today for the p20 pro, it's been available in china but now seems to be going wider. 10.1 won't because the phone is reaching the end of its life cycle sadly
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10.0 has started coming out today for the p20 pro, it's been available in china but now seems to be going wider. 10.1 won't because the phone is reaching the end of its life cycle sadly
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But 10.1 is just a bit of optimization for 10, or am I wrong?
It should get 10.1, like every other phone.
I will not buy Huawei again, for sure. The phone's great, I really like the software, but updates are trash. Also, no bootloader unlock code.
What feature are you wanting from 10.1? This phone is 2 years old now, pretty much end of life for tech device. Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader, there's pretty much zero development on this phone. Some crappy ROMs with broken stuff. You really not missing anything apart from ad blocking lol. Days of Rom dev are almost over unfortunately, buy an older phone if that's what you want.
"Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader,"
Well, I could be able to revive one of my bricked devices. Complicated story, that is why this would be the only method.
"What feature are you wanting from 10.1?"
Everything new.
I wouldn't count on it. Android 11 is coming out next month and we still don't have EMUI 10 here in Australia.
Yep. It got confirmed that p20 pro will not get EMUI 10.1.
Emui 10 got delayed till June, and also we got removed from montly security updates.
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What feature are you wanting from 10.1? This phone is 2 years old now, pretty much end of life for tech device. Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader, there's pretty much zero development on this phone. Some crappy ROMs with broken stuff. You really not missing anything apart from ad blocking lol. Days of Rom dev are almost over unfortunately, buy an older phone if that's what you want.
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While i agree with you that custom roms are dying, unfortunately you are completely wrong about the 2 year cycle of life.
All android manufacturers can push as many updates as Apple, but they refuse, because mob mentality. I paid a lot of cash for this phone only to be treated the same way as the P9 days : Delayed updates for x times, updates that got canceled because of unknown reasons and so on.
Huawei had the ability to come on top if they announced that phones from 2017 and up will get a lot of updates, since now they no longer have google services and they can easily use their OWN services to gain profit, just like Apple. They refuse to see it, they become stubborn, and me as a consumer will put my foot down and no longer buy phones from this brand, neither anything related to Huawei.
Great hardware, bad software.
I will have to waste 1k on an Iphone but at least i can be assured that i get a lot of support for more than those 2 years that android manufacturers provide.
Huawei, you deserve all you're getting. If you don't man up and stop with these PR stunts and "communism", the brand will die. Literally Xiaomi surpassed them!
I'm done with Huawei.
My next phone will be an OnePlus, Samsung or Xiaomi.
Huawei as a company became trash af.
I was in love with the brand since I got a Mate 10 lite - but what they're doing is nonsense bull****.
Great hardware, nice UI, but the attitude towards updates is seriously bad.
Without GMS and changes in their behavior, this company will get out from Europe maybe around 2025. At least their mobile section for sure.
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If you don't plan to immediately switch to a custom ROM don't go with Xiaomi. They have terrible software, with hard-to-imagine amount of bloat and ad-ware. From my past experience they are even worse than Huawei in terms of updates.
If you live in any country that gets Exynos variants of Samsung phones - it's a waste of money. It's proven that they have far worse performance compared to the Snapdragon variants of the same model (at the same price). Don't know how fast Samsung rolls out updates now, but in the past they were very slow.
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If you don't plan to immediately switch to a custom ROM don't go with Xiaomi. They have terrible software, with hard-to-imagine amount of bloat and ad-ware. From my past experience they are even worse than Huawei in terms of updates.
If you leave in any country that gets Exynos variants of Samsung phones - it's a waste of money. It's proven that they have far worse performance compared to the Snapdragon variants of the same model (at the same price). Don't know how fast Samsung rolls out updates now, but in the past they were very slow.
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Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I live in Hungary, we get Samsung phones with Exynos.
Do you have any experience with OnePlus? I heard that they're the "iPhone" of android phones.
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Do you have any experience with OnePlus? I heard that they're the "iPhone" of android phones.
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I don't have experience with OnePlus yet, but I'm considering it as an option for my next device.
I can't really imagine what "They're the "iPhone" of Android phones." means.
OnePlus phones are pretty open and have some nice custom ROM options. They are not as expensive as other flagship devices (although getting closer every year). In the last models they had some green tint issues with the screen (some say minor and limited). Overall considered to have good hardware and software.
That's more or less what I know, you probably can get much more (and more reliable) information on the OnePlus forums.
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I don't have experience with OnePlus yet, but I'm considering it as an option for my next device.
I can't really imagine what "They're the "iPhone" of Android phones." means.
OnePlus phones are pretty open and have some nice custom ROM options. They are not as expensive as other flagship devices (although getting closer every year). In the last models they had some green tint issues with the screen (some say minor and limited). Overall considered to have good hardware and software.
That's more or less what I know, you probably can get much more (and more reliable) information on the OnePlus forums.
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I see. Thank you, have a nice day!
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I'm done with Huawei.
My next phone will be an OnePlus, Samsung or Xiaomi.
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LOL you think Samsung or Xiaomi cares about software updates? Any company that produces 10+ lines of devices dont care about keeping up with updates.. only selling....
You want consistent updates, go with Apple, Google or even OnePlus, as they openly support 3rd party roms...
I'd also not go with Samsung. They are very poor with regards to updates as well. Xiaomi is fast with updates actually, but there skin really is ****. Think.. original touchwiz ****.
Apple, Google or OnePlus are the only options for updates. Though, if 'Murica decides to ban all tech to China, then oneplus is also out.
Did you know more about it?
No, we only get 10.0, as it seems.
Just came. Poland, Orange.
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Just came. Poland, Orange.
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Mine still haven't arrived. Others?
Update is live in UK as well. Went live four days ago.