I have a SIM card that has 5g signal on an OnePlus 11r but not on Moto edge 30 ultra. I tried both retcn and reteu images, no difference. So I had to pay bigger price for better SIM cards.
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Please can anyone who knows about cellular bands and sims tell me why my US Unlocked Pixel 4a 5G somehow shows
a 5G signal with a VZN 4G sim? How is that possible? Thanks.
Because there's no such thing as a "4G/5G SIM", your sim card tells network what phone number you are and that's it.
Thanks. I shouldn't have assumed that VZN's enhanced 5G network needed a different sim card.
you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
JohnLynchSF said:
you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
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This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
Mrbeastycakes said:
This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
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It's not just about radio frequency reception... 5G has encryption and security algorithms that are different to 4G, and newer '5G' SIMS support that. So a 4G SIM that works on 5G now might stop working depending on how VZN implements things in the future. Currently most US network's 5G also requires simultaneous connection to 4G for various aspects of the connection
I bought the unlocked 4A5G on launch day and am a Verizon user. I purposely did this as it was 100 bucks cheaper, and the only difference between the unlocked and VZW specific model is the MMwave antenna (short range, high speed) which is the 5G variant that Verizon has installed at football stadiums and in some city center locations. I don't care about either of those, and didn't care to pay an extra 100 for something I don't care about.
On Google's product page for the unlocked 4A5G, it clearly states that the unlocked version will work on Verizon's sub6 (what they call Nationwide 5G), which shares spectrum (DSS) with the existing 4G/LTE that they use. Its really not much faster than existing 4G/LTE.
This is why you're getting 5G. There is no such thing as a 5G SIM as far as we all know. It all has to do with how Verizon (or any other carrier) provisions your account with the combo of the SIM and IMEI. In my case, I had an older SIM that said 4G/LTE on it (marketing actually), and the phone worked fine, but it was provisioned by Verizon years ago on god knows what phone I had at the time. I did not get 5G with that SIM, but likely could have had it been reprovisioned by Verizon. But it was easier to get a new SIM rather than try and explain it to the Verizon 1st like tech.
I ended up getting another SIM, got with Verizon tech support, they reprovisioned the phone with the new SIM and bang... 5G reception.
Is worth getting verzion locked phone for free.Buti still got unlocked pixel 4 XL not sure if worth upgrade to 5g?
I'm not 100% on 5G coverage in the USA, but in my experience switching back from S20 FE 5G to Pixel 4, 5G has made no difference. Save your money and stick to 4G.
Verizon use mmwave 5G which will give you blazing, near gigabit speeds but also be blocked very easily by buildings and... passing flocks of birds, jk.
if you don't live in a major city it would be useless as I understand it.
So I got a s21 ultra imported from Canada for the Snapdragon processor - it has a few issues , eg it has Canadian Samsung pay which means I can't get the samsung card and the health app is Canadian and won't sync with my UK watches metrics for blood pressure etc because they are FDA cleared in Canada, but the one issue that seems to bug me the most is that the 5g and 4g bands in Canada are different to the UK, so the outdoor speed/signal is significantly worse than it was on my old OnePlus 6T - does anyone know if there are any solutions to this?
You could use ODIN to flash the U1 series software on (US Carrier unlocked); that would help for 4G possible but 5G, you are SOL (until Samsung makes a phone with all the 5G frequencies.. s22 ultra I hope).
I have the W series here in Canada but run the U (Carrier) sometimes and the U1 (Unlocked) 99% of the time.
So I have the s21 ultra. Love it and hate it as only a fanatic can. Have owned every Note, and am eagerly awaiting the s22 ultra. I spend time in Europe and the US and it drives me crazy that there is no version of the device that has the correct 5G and LTE bands for both areas. I have the sm-G9980 (HK snapdragon) which is dual sim and gives me 5G in Europe... but not in the US. All the 'U' versions have the US 5G (of course) ... but don't have the correct 5G bands for Europe. The 'B' is good for Europe but not the US 5G. The list goes on. It's not an exynos v snapdragon issue as the 'B' (exynos) and the '0' (snapdragon) have the same bands.
Meantime ALL Apple devices and the new pixel 6 have all the 4G and 5G bands for both areas (and I bet there are other brands that do too). I bought, first the 13 pro and then the Pixel6 pro, hoping I could adapt because connectivity is high on my needs and these devices are flagship and should be alternatives, and I really tried to adapt to them. But I returned both as I'm just not an apple person (and let's face it the devices have the same feel for the last few years), and the pixel 6 pro, which is nice, is just too stock for me, and it lacks the 'refined over the years' software of Samsung (and I just can't find a better email or, to a lesser extent, calendar app than Samsung's).
It is incredibly frustrating.
Surely Samsung can also create a global unlocked version with all the global 4G and 5G bands? I can't be the only one wanting this, or am I?
Because carriers, and because Spectrum licences are expensive.
But that's not true : even Apple doesn't have the same bands between the US and the rest of the world.
>> Even Apple (for the iPhone 13 Pro Max) has TWO modem versions, and the iPhone US model is the only one with mmWave (the "best" 5G).
Apple doesn't makes "carrier" versions of their phones - A verizon iPhone is absolutely the same as a tmobile iPhone, so by including more bands, they can move stock around the world and just add the box in the country it will be sold without excess stock when no one is buying a verizon iPhone 12 after the iPhone 13 is out - they ship it to Africa or India and boom, that Verizon US iPhone is now on a different continent.
Apple also makes cheaper phones with higher margins (iPhone 13 Pro Max 256 Gb with only 3x telephoto = 1400$, S21 Ultra 256 Gb with 3x AND 10x telephoto = 1100$) so spending 1$ more per phone on spectrum licences to avoid creating different models is a complete win.
Because of carriers, most Android manufacturers have 3 versions (US, Global, China) with different bands supported, sometimes different modems, even different antennas.
Just to be clear, I haven't heard of anyone "unlocking bands" as it could be done 11 years ago (even rooted etc). It is now much more secure (modem firmware) and most model are missing MMwave antennas anyway.
TLDR - not true, even Apple has mmWave only on US versions. However iPhones have the largest bands supported on average.
Website kimovil has a really good band comparator, you can identify 5G bands in the US and in Europe and find a phone that supports both. Only the US Oneplus 9 Pro seems to do it as of now.
Thanks for the response. I will check out kimovil. It makes sense why the Pixel would have the bands too.
Life is about compromise!
Does this phone comes in a 4G version and 5G version?
I recently purchase the one with FunTouch OS, but phone does not shows 5G like my Oneplus 10 Pro.
Box does not shows 5G either..
Thanks,
Do you have an operator contract with 5G data included?
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Do you have an operator contract with 5G data included?
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I'm in the USA with Tmobile and every plan includes 5g as long as you have the phone with 5G
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I'm in the USA with Tmobile and every plan includes 5g as long as you have the phone with 5G
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My origin os version works fine on tmobile 5g although I usually leave that off since 4g gives me better speeds and battery life in my area. The 5g bands on the vivo x70 pro+ are only n5, n41. It's missing bands n66, and n71 which are more common in the US and tmobile.
You could try and go into the settings and reset network settings and that could possibly fix the issue and give you 5g but if you still can't get 5g after that then your area may be using bands n66, and n71 which the x70 pro+ is missing.