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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRbkHOllLA&eurl=http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6755.html
soo is this available as an update
if that was a real sales pitch count me out - a poor attempt to try and mimic the iPhone, they should innovate like their slogan instead of following behind.
Only new feature is the zoom - but honestly how many use your pda as a camera/picture viewer. Now if they also upgraded the camera so as to be on par with nokia's lens' and the n95's spec then I would agree with the R&D in this area.
forgot about the rotate feature...something tells me it would be easier to press the rotate soft key.....
overall you can tell that I am not happy with this upgrade. Sure it can't do no harm but I think that their time could have been spent researching new features yet to be seen by Windows Mobile.
how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
that cube looks pretty nice...lovin the skin. I am actually working on my own cube, trying to make a 6 sided cube (although i'm startin to think it will become quite aggravating to find a side quickly if you are in a rush...whaddya think) with some custom animations. recently inspired to make it into a matrix theme.
not sure if you have seen this thread but it makes it quite simple. YOu should try and implement it into your kaiser port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325424
and btw in regards to the first post the gurus over at pocket cm seemed to have pretty much mimic most of the features from the new touchflo in their pocketcm picture viewer. Give em some time and it will be better than HTC's version, im sure of it.
I know of that link. thats where i got the one i posted
I am folowing that thread to see if there is anything I want to use.
BTW. having more "sides" on the cube is ok idea, but making one that wont kill memory is a tough one my brother in law is a compter programmer, and im talking with him about a multisided cube, maybe there is coming something cool from that part in a while but no promises
about the kaiser port, we will see, first I have to make it work flawless before thinking about what to put in it.
sounds good, keep us all posted on any future developments.
as for the original topic...we all know HTC use Qualcomm chipsets in the past. Maybe with this new deal of AMD liscensing the new graphics technology introduced in the xbox360 (Unified Shader Architecture) to Qualcomm, we should be able to be able to have the memory from the animations use a dedicated graphics card (graphics card in ppc is not new -i think the flame has one)....just imagine OpenGL 2.0 running ported on a pocket pc. Possibilities are unimaginable right now. I think this is where HTC's R&D money should be going....but for all I know its already in the making...one can only hope
yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
itje said:
yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
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yeh for sure, its proven already that they only include one maybe two major upgrades per phone. Much more profitable marketing scheme. Just gotta know which phones to get, the people who purchase the Tytn II are going to be getting a pretty good phone that should b around for long. Where as a phone like the HTC Touch will get outdated pretty quick (Touch Dual already in production.) I'm sure when phones begin to be released with graphics cards built in they will surely only make them w/o keyboards, then another one with keyboard...then some "New and Improved Graphics Card" that doesn't waste as much battery (which they probably had from the begining.)
I guess you just gotta know to wait for the last one...
itje said:
how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
Sweet looks cool. I would love that for my phone. When will ver 2 be out? I have a problem with touthflo. I can use the cube once then if i try again it wont load. It just flips up then flips away. I have to soft reset the phone to use it again. Is there a fix for this? I have this prob with any touchflo rom. Even my mda with touchflo does this.
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
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The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
duprade said:
The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
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as far as i understand, TouchFlo contains not only Сube. As for me - i want only finger scrolling. And it is still imperfect
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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I have to wonder why you even considered a diamond tbh..
you should get an iPhone
Nokia 1911 >>>> all
Surely you cant customise an E71 as much as a WM Device anyway?
I had an E71 for a while for work......My only comment on the device is "thank god i have a HTC Device!"
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
thanks for your replies, ... dont forget please, i'm just sharing my thoughts in non-perfect english. I dont except that everyone thinks what i think.
and hey, its a gameboy too, whith hardware buttons and a dpad but has perfect professional business solutions that i need.
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.....A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
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Really?? You mean my phone shipped with a Hellboy theme that changes all the icons, puts really cool flames all over the clock, superimposes flames over my contacts pictures.... that came with my phone? I really don't think you've looked into this properly.
That said, these phones are for people who are prepared to invest time and effort into them to reap the rewards. It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
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It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
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You're absolutely right
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
danielch said:
you should get an iPhone
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I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards
ryousuke said:
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
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thanks im curious too.
rotkapqchen
nokia is living of people wich are thinking like redhat. but they will be lost in futur
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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Believe me you wont be missed. Have fun with your mmm... super customizable mmm Nokia???
Rotkaeqpchen said:
I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards.
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i dont know why you get diamond if you like qwerty keyboards in the first place ???
my messegae in the upcming weeks would be: ***bye bye my little Diamond - Hello Touch HD***
well well. Nokia is great for phone. HTC = phone = ****. HTC for customize. I like it. Some kind of killing my time to upgrade, check website, upgrade and upgrade until the time I said. I have a life now. Than I'm going to say goodbye HTC.
Again
HTC = phone = **** ( sorry to say that )
HTC = killing my boring time = yes
Hey, It's the same thing I said when I ditched my ROKR E2 and bought an a1200, but then again... I found motorlafans, and couldn't help it... it's too good to be left alone.
Then it came to me that I REALLY needed some good phone for office business (which the A1200 performed well, but lacked wifi and 3G... and syncing was a hassle). When the iPhone came out, I said «nice, pretty... but it doesn't fit my philosophy...» which is customization... not only for themes and etc. but for speed, performance and suiting needs.
I saw the first iPhone killers and said, no way. But then the Diamond appeared: small, nice, useful... then I started researching the Touch (the first one) and discovered this site...
Seeing all the possibilities, I said: What the hell! Let's roll with HTC, the mother and father of 80% of OEM handsets that took a leap and started selling their own stuff, and with great design and TRUE innovation.
BUT, the Touch wouldn't be up to the cut: too much third party apps to make it run like I THOUGHT it should...
XPERIA made its teaser trailers, and I went numb... but it was a promise of long delays, Sony branding and a lot of zeroes on the pricetag.
The Diamond turned into a bliss... beyond all the iPhone wannabes, beyond usability paradigms, I remember thinking «WOW, that's a smart way of arranging a Home Screen, without clutter, with access to all the basics upfront, just like a superphone with a Clark Kent/Superman switch... (in reference to the TouchFlo3D taking all the basics to a new level and letting the powerhorse to sit in the back and enjoy the ride)».
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
But then again, I'm now swapping for a US version, and the rollercoaster will start again... I'm positive that the same tweaked roms can be used with the same efficiency...
Time will tell. . .
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Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
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now i have to agree on this one, HTC should tweaked some of windows registry before releasing it. for example, didnt they try the device when you try to reply an sms??? you could barely read your own message with that ONE line reply window
average consumer dont know what to do with this kind of problem, all they have in their mind is ''What the hell is this???''
heck we even need an unknown 3rd party app to adjust this small problem.
HTC please TEST your device before releasing it
It might be just mine, cause I use the fonts just one point above the minimum... but mine's got 2 lines... it's easier and the high res screen does a great job rendering minuscule fonts...
unwired4 said:
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
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I guess so.. All the tf3d is a today plugin with some bells and whistles.
This device is really nice and fast when you diable that.
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Good bye NO great games,
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and how does the e71 help there? I believe the e71 is even less customizable and has even less games available for it.
i dunno if people have posted threads about this phone but all i have to say is ive found the answer to all my prayers...personally i think the touch pro needed a biggger screen...i love my tilt but uupgrading to the touch pro will be little different other then size/width,ram/space and VGA display. Which in turn are all very great upgrades, but looking at the iphone, the touch pro neeeds a biggger screen but o well. And I'm not saying that im not going to get the touchpro because i am..just because i still consider it to be a better phone then the iphone for functionality and much more......but tonight ive found the equivelent to the best phone, possibley on the planet...HTC is coming out with
THE HTC TOUCH HD
CNET.COM Asia site has most of the specs but the realy important **** that caught my eye....
3.8" screen 480x800 display with a WVGA screeen resolution
5.0 mega pixel camera
512 megs of onboard rom 256 ram
Qualcomm 7500 processor with close to 600mhz chip
supposed FM radio
weighs 5 ounces!
TouchFlo 3D not 2D
and last but not least...a G-sensor which is like iphone accelerometer which when u flip the phone sideways it turns the frame and rotates the phone screen image.
i mean this is freakin bananas for those who have never seen this phone plz enjoy because thiis thing is goig to dominate and reintroduce HTC again as the major player in th phone market..after the little driver issues with the tilt.
here are more pictures on this site i been on all night comparing the iphone 3G, touch and touch pro with the touch HD
http://dailymobile.se/2008/09/19/pictures-iphone-vs-htc-touch-hd/t
http://dailymobile.se/2008/09/16/htc-touch-hd-specifications/
both these sites show coparison and close up pictures ive attached images with the touch hd and iphone comparison
(look how bright and much clearer the touch hd WVGA screen is to the iphones screen)
this is ridiculous..after i play with the touch pro for a couple months this winter..its going to follow my tilt onto craigslist and be sold, so when this TOUCH HD phone drops for tmobile or ATT in 2009, ill have it and ill be rdy to pay $600 and up for it if i have too because i dont think im gonna buy another phone after the touch hd for atleast 5yrs. gauranteed!
enjoy!
dunno if people have posted threads about this phone(...)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429499
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2646905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2653733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426482
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2665750
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425031
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425782
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2624240
and much more over there.
Enough?
yea dood i been gone from xda for like a month...as soon as i saw this thing i had to post just cuz im so freakin amazed ad jumpy. I havent been so siced over a phone since the tilt...the touch pro doesnt have me that thrillled right now but this touch hd is off the hook...if anybody knows the release date or hears anything plz post...mid october is beautiful...worse comes too worse ill freakin buy this phone online if it drops in london or something.
Sick phone, but will it have the video-output feature?
I noticed this on HTC's site a week or so ago, and it will totally dominate the iPhone. I'm upgrading from my Tilt to the Fuze (Touch Pro) when it's released at ATT on Oct 23rd...I'm really looking forward to the video out feature. If this Touch HD has that it WILL be the perfect phone!
Just have to say...got my wife an iPhone 3G the other day. Pretty slick interface, everything is fast and very smooth. Video playback puts every WinMo phone I've ever used to shame. No chopping, no freezes...just like watching a movie on my HD Plasma screen at home.
However I miss the ability to customize it like you can with WinMo phones. And not to mention the complicated process of putting music on the iPhone from iTunes. Good gosh they overcomplicated that process. Much easier with windows to simply drag and drop files/folders from your desktop into Activesync. A cool phone nonetheless...will have to get used to an on-screen keyboard with the Touch HD as my last 3 devices have had slideouts.
May I ask what do those have to do w/ Kaiser?
moegdaog said:
I havent been so siced over a phone since the tilt...the touch pro doesnt have me that thrillled right now but this touch hd is off the hook...
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Erm... the Touch HD is technically identical to the Touch Pro, just with a bigger screen and no keyboard. That's it. It brings nothing else new to the table, it runs the same TouchFlo 3D as the Pro and the Diamond, along with the same processor, memory, GPS, accelerometer, on the same old WinMo 6.1... apart from the screen, the experience of using this device will be nigh on identical to the Touch Diamond or Pro. So unless I'm missing something, it's really not that big a deal.
Will it "dominate" the Iphone? Of course not. It will divert a few sales amongst those looking for the highest res screen, but those who like the Iphone way of working will still choose the Iphone (in their millions) and those who prefer Windows Mobile will simply have one more option to choose from. Bigger screen (Touch HD) or proper keyboard (Touch Pro) - the choice is yours.
I hope they do a similar device to the touch HD but with a keyboard... love the idea of a WVGA screen on my next device, web browsing will be great compared to QVGA on kaiser!
I wonder if the processor is powerful enough to deliver a smooth experience at that WCGA with touch flow 3d?
I think I am in heaven!!! WOW and WOW again!!!
I will have to wait another year or so until my contract comes up for renewal.
Is Android a stand alone OS? or is it merely a GUI for Windows Mobile? Will I be able to use any of my WM apps/games? Please tell me I can.
it's called xda porn
MACkjam said:
I think I am in heaven!!! WOW and WOW again!!!
I will have to wait another year or so until my contract comes up for renewal.
Is Android a stand alone OS? or is it merely a GUI for Windows Mobile? Will I be able to use any of my WM apps/games? Please tell me I can.
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A year? Why even post! There'll be far better phones out in a year's time.
Android is an entirely different OS with no compatibilty with WM or WM apps at all, other than the fact that the first Android phone (the G1) happens to be made by HTC and shares a similar Qualcom-powered hardware platform. Thanks to this, ports of Android to various existing WM phones are already underway - but installing an Android ROM means losing WM and your current apps (it also doesn't work very well yet, as far as I know).
Why are we talking about Android anyway? As said before, the Touch HD (subject of this thread) is Just-Another-Windows-Phone running all the same software as the Touch Pro and Touch Diamond, just in a slightly different form factor.
i mean ya it will be similar to the touch pro in fuctionality ...but being able to do the same things with almost double the screeen size is amazing homie. imagine watching youtube and avi dvd rips on this 3.8" screeen? not to mention web browsing on opera and w/e else comes out. WVGA iis too sick...when u see the resolution next to thhe iphone..the iphone looks like a packard bell monitor in comparison, just look for yourself in the pictures.
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A year? Why even post! There'll be far better phones out in a year's time.
Android is an entirely different OS with no compatibilty with WM or WM apps at all, other than the fact that the first Android phone (the G1) happens to be made by HTC and shares a similar Qualcom-powered hardware platform. Thanks to this, ports of Android to various existing WM phones are already underway - but installing an Android ROM means losing WM and your current apps (it also doesn't work very well yet, as far as I know).
Why are we talking about Android anyway? As said before, the Touch HD (subject of this thread) is Just-Another-Windows-Phone running all the same software as the Touch Pro and Touch Diamond, just in a slightly different form factor.
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My my, do you have nappy rash? Why post? Because I can and I want to.
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i mean ya it will be similar to the touch pro in fuctionality
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Not similar, identical
...but being able to do the same things with almost double the screeen size is amazing homie. imagine watching youtube and avi dvd rips on this 3.8" screeen? not to mention web browsing on opera and w/e else comes out. WVGA iis too sick...when u see the resolution next to thhe iphone..the iphone looks like a packard bell monitor in comparison, just look for yourself in the pictures.
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It's all relative to what you want to do, if crystal clear Youtube clips is your whole thing then ok, it might well be the phone for you, but I can't see most Iphone users (or Touch Pro users for that matter) being too jealous. It doesn't make the Iphone screen suddenly bad, videos on the Iphone are still going to be just as slick as they are now, and so's the rest of the user experience (which WM can't match on any screen just yet).
For the record, I don't own an Iphone or a Touch Pro just yet, I'm waiting out another month in QVGA on the Tytn II - but after that I'll probably go for the Iphone. I'm tired of WM and the Touch HD doesn't begin to change that.
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My my, do you have nappy rash? Why post? Because I can and I want to.
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Great! Thanks!
HTC completely screwed up by reverting to dual band UMTS.
HTC to international travelers: screw U
Boinng said:
Erm... the Touch HD is technically identical to the Touch Pro, just with a bigger screen and no keyboard.
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Last time i checked that wasn't TECHNICALLY identical
and we've all see than having the same hardward does not inherently mean the same device. There are lots of reasons to be excited about taht device. If you're not, then just ignore it. I don't see why you need to come throw cold water one everyone's fun in here.
I'm curious why this is in the Kaiser General forum though as it's not about the Kaiser at all...
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Not similar, identical
It's all relative to what you want to do, if crystal clear Youtube clips is your whole thing then ok, it might well be the phone for you, but I can't see most Iphone users (or Touch Pro users for that matter) being too jealous. It doesn't make the Iphone screen suddenly bad, videos on the Iphone are still going to be just as slick as they are now, and so's the rest of the user experience (which WM can't match on any screen just yet).
For the record, I don't own an Iphone or a Touch Pro just yet, I'm waiting out another month in QVGA on the Tytn II - but after that I'll probably go for the Iphone. I'm tired of WM and the Touch HD doesn't begin to change that.
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You said it, my friend. Lately my Tilt has been acting up and I'm pulling my hair out it's so annoying. I'm not one for masochism. I've used the Touch too, and friends who have it have had similar problems as me after a couple months use (eventual slowing down, unresposiveness)
On the contrary I have an iPod Touch which I've had for over a year and it's remarkably strong still. I'm no Apple fb, but my next phone might be an iPhone because I'm so fed up with WinMo (or HTC, not sure which really)
So I don't see Touch HD becoming an iPhone killer at all. It;s not the specs that make iPhone good, because the specs suck. It's got the best UI, best touch keyboard (my Tilts physical keyboard is less accurate!), and it's cheap for the quality of the product.
this means Touchflo 3d should be possible on Xperia i guess.
The Touch HD looks awesome but it still gonna carry WM6. That's the problem I got with it. WM7 looking farther and farther away doesn't help, $200 for iphone looks good.
TOUCH HD
Won't the touch HD have a 5 MP camera? thats a real difference!
i would also imagine it has better photo "capture" speed.
and the touch pro, based on the one I held in J&R a few weeks ago, does not have an external camera button either, you need to do it on screen.
that would be another real difference.
i imagine by the spring (and hopefully when my contract is up) that they will
have a the Touch HD with a keyboard, updated drivers, and WM7.
that would be pretty sweet, in my humble opinion.
michael
Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
zeo2k said:
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
orb3000 said:
That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
ace10134 said:
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
derekwilkinson said:
They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
I am a musician and have been looking for a decent music app for winmo for a long time now, there just isnt any really and no hardware to go with them. The iphone is years ahead of winmo in this area but then winmo if more business orientated. I am still with winmo at the moment and I have a touch HD, hower is some release one of these everything would change in hours....
The iphone would slot in and form the synth engine which could be controller by the keyboard.
http://www.phonature.com:8092/home/products_pdaApp_ppc_HandDeeEO.htm
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Musical-Keyboard-Tutor-15209.shtml
more google hits
http://www.google.dk/search?source=...gning&meta=lr=&aq=f&oq=pocketpc+music+keyboar
pro musician
I am aware of these but any pro musician wouldnt touch winmo with a barge pole as there is nothing serious being developed. Plus no multi-touch..!
winmo currently don't support mtouch
and the screens used dont have the hardware support
andriod seem to have it both software and hardware
not 100% sure I get what you are asking really
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I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
stoolzo said:
I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
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i wouldnt do that 'round these parts if i was you.
stoolzo said:
I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
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"implying that real music can be done on a phone"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...............
stoolzo said:
The iphone is years ahead of winmo in this area
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stoolzo said:
I am just speculating
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Exactly. That's your personal preference.
Before I forget...
stoolzo said:
iphone
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I'll have to take a gander and hit back but i know there was a good bit of software for winmo that i used to play with, mind you not gonna match up to a PC running Cubase/Soundforge etc etc or even an Atari running midi equipment but it makes noise lol
Will update.
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