Hi there. I often pull out my battery or just remove my SIM chip when the phone is on. Not because I like causing harm to my phone, but because my soft reset button doesnt work. I think its jammed because I tried with a stylus and a lead pencil.
So two questions:
(1) Is there an alternate way to soft reset, i.e reassign to another button?
(2) How bad is it to stop the kaiser randomly while its on by pulling out the battery/SIM card?
why aren't you using the power button to turn it off? (long press)
carpediem said:
Hi there. I often pull out my battery or just remove my SIM chip when the phone is on. Not because I like causing harm to my phone, but because my soft reset button doesnt work. I think its jammed because I tried with a stylus and a lead pencil.
So two questions:
(1) Is there an alternate way to soft reset, i.e reassign to another button?
(2) How bad is it to stop the kaiser randomly while its on by pulling out the battery/SIM card?
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1. There are soft reset applications. L26 M2D rom has one built in. I don't know where you'd get it, but I bet searching will yield results.
2.When you pop the sim holder, your phone should shut off regardless. I've never noticed any adverse reactions to ganking the battery, but I'm not willing to bet anything on it. I'd avoid it. Take the advice of the previous poster or get the SoftReset application.
Hy,
the program "spb pocket plus" has a warm start icon, may this helps....
Get it here - Raiisak's Cabs Corner - 2nd one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398050
next time also use SEARCH
my bad, I should've mentioned that I do this when the phone hangs or the menus/shortcuts (such as Raiisak`s Soft Reset) are inaccessible. Even holding down the power button does not work.
I agree that by re-installing to a different ROM (I am always experimenting with new ones) there will be less freezes , but sometimes soft-resets have to be done.
Although I don't think that yanking the battery out will destroy the device, it could have the potential to corrupt files in use, so don't do it unless you have to, and you should probably try to find a more permanent solution.
Dave
just another one, i change sim cards quite frequently, does opening the sim door do a proper shutdown i.e., close all open files? ive not had any probs so far. i dont always remember to hold the power button
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I've had a wing for the past 2 months. Over the past 2 weeks, the phone has been acting wierd. Occasionally, it will be working fine and I'll click the power button to turn off the screen (like I do all the time). Then when I go to turn on the phone, the screen stays black and it locks up and is unresponsive to any keys or sliding out the keyboard and I need to pull the battery. It's not the battery because it is fully charged.
The only 'hack' i've done to it since i've had is the pagepool thing. Any suggestions? I'm tempted to reset it/format it to remove any 'hacks' but not sure how to do so. I'm not sure the reset with the 1234 command will remove the pagepool hack
First of all, why are you pulling the battery? All you have to do to reset the phone is a "soft reset" ... which means putting the stylus into the little hole on the left side of the phone under the volume slider.
You should probably try to hard reset it. (hold in both soft keys while soft resetting) and yes, You'll have to set the pagepool back up.
Do keep in mind this will delete everything off your phone, so be sure to backup any important files before doing so (contacts, pictures..etc..)
I've had this happen to me a few times. I can say this though, when I flashed a new rom onto it it stopped.
If you don't want to flash, try looking in settings>system>key lock and set it to "Lock all buttons except Power button" or possible looking into some auto-locking programs, like S2U2 by A_C.
Good luck
phreke
heres a question, what did you set the pagepool to? If you set it to like 32 bajillion or 0, it won't work. also, some of the older pagepool changers don't work with the wm6.1 roms
From yesterday onwards i am getting this problem.power button is nt workn as previous.Phone automatically get the signal of long press power button.it means automatically it asks "power will be turned off,and you may lose data if...".and also when i press power button it doesnt goes to standby mode.when i long press the power button sometimes it doesnt switch off..As i think the power button dnt work as normal or may it seems that power button keep pressed internally..pls help me to solve this problem.thnx in advance
some1 pls help me
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some1 pls help me
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I'd suggest you make a full backup and hard reset the device in order to make sure its not a hardware problem. If it works fine after a hard reset, you'll know its something you installed relatively recently.
I did a hard reset.nothing changed.then i flashed a different ROM.But still i am facing the problem.
Try the following:
Get a can of canned Air and blow it on the button as it might move any debris that are there. Just make sure that the phone is off and the battery is out. KEEP THE AIR STREAM AWAY FROM THE SCREEN! If any of the propellant escapes while you spray, it can freeze the LCD. Just slide it open and stick some paper on top of the screen. Wait a few moments before you switch the device back on
If this doesn't work, flash the Kaiser with its original ROM and SPL just in case there is an odd interaction somewhere. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418375
If nothing of the above work, you have two options:
a. If the device is in warranty, return it and get it fixed or replaced. Make sure is has its original ROM/SPL loaded before you do.
b. If the device is out of warranty/you don't care about the warranty, you can try to open it up and see if something is blocking the switch. There are instructions floating around here somewhere.
EDIT: Added warning regarding the propelant and the LCD
Any update here? My tilt is doing the exact same thing
alt236 pretty much said all there was to it. Hard reset, restore stock ROM, try blowing the switch, if all fails send for repair.
Did all of the above and the cost of repair is not worth it. Time to toss my kaiser I guess
Hi, I cleaned the screen of my HTC Diamond with a bit of alcohol and a pice of tissue and it seems that the alcohol got inside of the Power button. Now, every time I try to turn the screen on by touching the power button, it turns the screen on but it dispays a message that says: "Warning: Power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?"
If I click YES, it reboots the phone, If I click NO, then its ok. That is fine, but the problem is when I want to turn the phone off. It's impossible. It will keep trying to reboot.
Does anybody know what can I do? I am really worried.
One solution could be to make some other button from the phone to act as the power button (like the Home button that is rarely used). How can I do that?
Please help!!!!
Thank you
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Did you already find an answer ?
No, I didnt find the solution. I tried to fix the hardware but didnt succeed. So, I created a dummy file to emulate the poweroffwarning.exe that pops up when you long press the power button.
Solution
Hello, I have one AT&T TITL 8925 that upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.5
After the new software was loaded I saw same behavior on my phone.
When the phone is ON and I pressed the power button sometimes it do not respond, and others I received the warning message "power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them..." My first tought was that it is because the processor is slow to this new software release, or maybe my phone is damaged. I was working perfectly with previous (light version) release so my final guess is that this sw requires more uses of the processos.
Anyways what I have been doing is before turing it off I press the red button or hang up button, and after this if I press the power button it works fine (No more warnings). I have some theories but I will keep doing the same
Hope this partial solution helps you as it does for me.
Regards
Jerry
this is not working for me :| the problem is i can't use my power button not even to open my display when it goes to sleep :|:| i don't know what to do guys please help me
You can use the Stylus to awake the phone, instead of using the power button. You can also use TouchLockPro, to suspend the device, so you do not need the power button for that too.
Also you can set the phone to awake on pressing any key (Windows Mobile Setting), but be sure to have a good locking tool, which makes sure you do not have bogus calls and it goes to sleep again fast enough, otherwise it will drain battery.
I have the same problem.
Anyone solved this one?
I have the same issue and this is not a hardware problem. Strange since even updates/changes of the rom do not correct the issue. Did anybody find a solution for this...?
Well.. ive had this problem just ones.. I was walking downtown with my diamond in the frontpocket of my jeans (face down), after about 3min. of walk, it started to rain (big drops), and my clothes got completely wet, i turned around emidietly, to walk back to home. When i got home after 3 more min. i layed the phone on the table, and then i could hear there were somethibg wrong.. The "turn off" sound came, and the notification kept on coming up, even though i pressed No, as if i were just holding the power button down.. Then i began to press the power button continuesly for about a 100 times, and to my surprise then it stopped and have functioned perfectly for about 2 month now.. Something tells me theres some serius promlem with the smallest kind of moisture near the power button on this phone..
Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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Hi! on one of my diamond, the power button off from the board. So the black little board with the button itself is not part of the complete circuit anymore... if someone know the hw testpoint for that it would great please.... i see a few TP around, but if i just start sorting them i just going to kill it...I use to flash phones with TP so is not new for me , but i find nothing for diamond.
I have a similar issue. Mine seems like it is almost stuck on, so it wakes its self up all the time, meaning a full charge lasts an hour or two. Then when it runs out of battery it tries to switch itself back on, so goes through a continuous cycle of vibrating and beeping until the battery is removed. The gf finds it very annoying at 3am lol.
Don't recall mine getting wet, but it's possible it could have got damp at some point, but it's been doing this now for about 3 weeks.
Tried a hard reset with no luck.
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Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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I can see that how to remove the power button from the video showing how to replace the screen. Any idea if once removed the button can be fixed, if not can you get replacements?
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I can see that how to remove the power button from the video showing how to replace the screen. Any idea if once removed the button can be fixed, if not can you get replacements?
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I think I should send it to HTC, and ask them to do it. Or go to a repair centre. But I should not try it myself, because it can be dangerous for the diamond.
Also try searching on ebay, there might be the parts you could use.
Good luck!
is there a way to remap the power button?
my diamond face same problem since this afternoon, arrrrgghhhh!!!
- blocking hwbutton1, hwbutton2, hwbutton3, hwbutton4, hwbutton5, hwbutton6, hwbutton7 >>>> NO LUCK
- hard reset >>> NO LUCK
guys, any of you solved the problem yet
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SEQ6AUFOI
My Sony X1 have some strange problems with the power button. When it goes into sleep mode, I can not wake it up with the power button, all I can do is to soft reset. Sometimes it does not go into sleep mode either , it just "wake up" all the time. I don't know what's wrong with it, tried Hard reset but no use .
ANyone had this problems before?
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The only way to solve this is to leave the phone near your laptop heat vent ( fan) . hot air from it might help you to get the power button up and running. But if that to doesn't work then i'm afraid thats bad.
Current sol :
1. download SU2U ( search threads )
2. go to the settings and make the " lock when stylus inserted" option ON
3. Change the screen turn off time to 5 secs..
So , to unlock , remove stylus , to lock -> insert it back ( its turns off the back light within 5 sec )
Less annoying
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thanks for this link, i accidentally tear off my power button flex. now i could turn it on again. Thanks elektros
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
dam1en said:
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
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Sounds like a hardware issue or simply a bad flash. Have you attempted to reflash the rom? Which rom are you using?
Well...
It wasn't working again this morning, but suddenly - out of nowhere - began to work properly. I'm stumped. If I ever figure out the exact issue I'll be sure to post back.
Thanks
Greetings,
I have same problem on my tytn...
Sometimes it suddenly starts working fine, but shortly it breaks again.
I have tried hard-reseting while it was working, but didnt help.
I think the problem appeared after charging my phone with a motorola v3 charger, so maybe it damaged my phone with over-voltage or something...
Anyway, if someone can suggest something i would be very grateful!
Hi I have exactly the same symptoms with my HTC Tytn II...when you power it on it starts typing letters (in my case CEDF). If the recording button is active it will start recording too. This happened suddenly and I haven't used any other charging apart from the usb and wall socket charger supplied with it.
All buttons (except front center key) and keyboard do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much. This phone is only 8 months old.
Hi,
my Kaiser with dutty's WM6.1WWE ROM did the same this morning Yes I disabled the button 6 and stopped the voice recordings but all the hardware keys but few in the center of the keyboard are not responding. So I cant make or receive calls without taking the stylus out and touching the screen soft buttons andd that's pin in the ... while I am driving. I am using this ROM for almost a year now and I am extremely hapy (up to now) with its performance. When it all happened there were no activities on the phone - I woke up from a SMS notification (Yes I did receive an SMS from my bank) followed by repeting Voice Recordings. Any help will be highly appresiated! Thanks in advance!
keyboard problem
I am experiencing a similar problem with my stock tilt my keyboard does work however none of the text appears on the screen. I have tried hard reset and everything else I could think of, short of a clear storage reload. I would appreciate any help or suggestions from some of you more experienced users.
Bisonwill
anyone ever figure this problem out? im having the same thing happen now.
Same here
I've had it for a couple of weeks now.
I'm running WM6.1 from HTC (rom ver.3.29.422.1 from 2009-01-12) so nothing fancy here.
I even ordered and replaced the D-Pad and I replaced the keyboard (just the sticky part though). I totaly dismantled the phone and didn't find any issues with the cables.
Any ideas would be highly appreciated
Join the club!
This is crazy. My problem is exactly the same. I re-romed to the latest phoenix and it did not change a thing.
Help!
help....
any body here found a solution for the keypad/keyboard yet??? i have the same problem as you guys... any idea, thanks so much...
i have the same problem And there is something else. My Kaiser wakes up every 2 minutes - it's killing the battery. It works only for 6 hours now
Help
bump!!!
No more people with this issue or any solutions?
Pls! Help
ive joined the gang!
I decided to flash my cooked rom ive been working on.
i hadnt changed much in the kitchen and i think the flash has went badly.
it starts booting windows and where it should state "calibrate screen" it goes white and hangs there, buttons seem to respond by lighting up when pressed.
Now when i try to get it into bootloader or even hard reset it just doesnt work.
it just restarts the phone.
before this happened the backspace key hasnt been working for ages.
anybody got any ideas??
(lucky for me i have a backup kaiser!)
I'm having the same problem. Automatic wakeup, applications starting automatically, can't use keyboard, have to to use screen to use phone etc. I've hardreset using the clear storage method, reflashed a couple of times, but nothing helped. So here I am joining the club
If it's not a hardware issue, then try to flash another radio, many of the custom ROMs here doesn't include a radio, so if it's caused by a wrong radio, flash a new ROM without a radio doesn't help.
Check the Sticky for 'how to' if not aware.
PS: Check here for something need to know..
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
Danhargreaves said:
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
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Try this:
1. Take out the battery from the phone.
2. Take out SIM card and SD card.
3. Press in and hold the CAMERA button.
4. Plugin to your computer using the USB cable, while keep holding press in the CAMERA button.
See does it enter the BOOTLOADER mode.
Once entered the BOOTLOADER mode, you can flash a new radio or rom right from there, in your regular way of running KaiserCustomRUU.exe.(Since you already have a HardSPL flashed on, otherwise a HardSPL is needed to flash first.)
Good luck.
Edit: If the power button and the camera button is still working, you can use the regular way of entering BOOTLOADER mode, and flash from bootloader mode or flash from SD card.
Originally posted by Manpreet @ www.sakajati.com
To enter in bootloader mode:
Simply Switch off your phone. Press and hold camera button and also press and hold the power button..You can remove ur finger from power button when phone is switched on but keep holding camera button until u come to bootloader …Now attach the usb to ur computer and do the flashing you normally do.
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Thx for your suggestion:
I tried removing battery as sim and sd were already removed due to previous attempts in fixing!
so:
i removed battery (did not put back in), plugged in while holding camera
got nothing, so held power button at same time, the green light came on, then went off, and came back on again. but no bootloader.
i tried same procedure with battery in, and all i get is the OS loading up, no bootloader no matter how long i hold the buttons.
is there any other alternative method to get into bootloader (possibly involving other button presses)?
or any other ideas.
Really want to fix this as it was my "experimental" phone for cooking roms with.
Thanks again.
Suspect you have some hardware issue with the camera button. Can you ever take a photo with it?
Edit: Did you read through every post onthis thread:
MTTY (How to fix a bad ROM flash!)
If you tried that and still no luck, you can post your questions there. There are masters will keep an eye on that thread. And generally they only have time to look into their 'subscribed' threads, chances are they will not look into here.
Edit: Maybe the procedure I told is wrong, since I call from memory, check this:
dwny said:
If you have a bad flash....that's no reason to worry.
I haven't had to use MTTY to recover.
In most cases, if there's no issues with the Rom itself...you can pop out the battery and re-flash the same ROM from BootLoader Mode. This will also work if for some reason your computer crashes or loses power & restart during the FLASH.
If the Rom has issues.....the flash will not complete and the device will be stuck in BootLoader Mode. At this point,you must FLASH a FACTORY ROM!!
Pop the battery off 1st, power up the device, device will power up in BootLoader Mode, connect to pc & FLASH your devices FACTORY ROM. This will restore your device back to it's original out the box settings.
The above only works if the device has been put through the Hard SPL or SuperCID process.
I personally have never tried to flash a cooked ROM without unlocking any of my devices. From what I've read what others have experienced...the flash would just fail and they're stuck in BootLoader Mode.
Myself ... I've experienced bad flashes, bad cooked roms that I've cooked, lost power to a pc & had my pc crash during a flash. Listed above is how I've recovered. There is life after Bootloader Mode.
The only time you have to worry is if your device does not power up at all
As a public chef...it's your responsibility to set the parameters of your ROM! Meaning, Radio, HardSPL, program conflicts, etc.
You are not ultimately responsible if someone bricks their phone but if they pushed the issue, you could be hit with some form of liabilty because you failed on providing a simple Disclaimer that sets the expectation.
I hope I've been helpful.....
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And try like:
Plug in USB first, and thenn press & hold Camera, Power button etc.
I remember once I read there is a way to enter bootloader without battery, just can not find the original again.
yesterday my tytn2 started to act crazy, i didn't drop it or installed any new software.
the screen started to turn on on his own, front buttons stopped working accept the center button witch now opens the start menu.
when i open the keyboard the fn light is on and the keyboard doesn't work.
when i write the sms message trough touchscreen the backspace isn't working so i can't delete misspelled words.
the photo button and power button on left side still working fine.
all the applications work fine, and i can make calls trough touch screen.
i can't make hard reset because front buttons wont respond.
is anybody had similar problems or have the solution.
my guarantee is gone so i hope this is software problem.
Try doing a battery pull and letting your phone sit like that for a minute, put the battery back in, and see what happens...
It sounds like you have water damage to your phone, though. Every take it in the bathroom with you while you shower? The steam in the air is a sure fire way to get water damage, and it will take time to show, but eventually circuits rust and stop working and you end up with a lot of random problems, and usually all of a sudden you have a lot of major problems.
well, i can't remmeber that i had carry it in the bathroom while showering.
i pulled out the battery, waited for about 5 mins and when i put it back nothing has changed. thanks for the tip.
is there a way to do a hard reset without pushing the front buttons?
konch said:
well, i can't remmeber that i had carry it in the bathroom while showering.
i pulled out the battery, waited for about 5 mins and when i put it back nothing has changed. thanks for the tip.
is there a way to do a hard reset without pushing the front buttons?
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look in the wiki for a detail of all the ways you can perform a hard reset (i believe there are at least THREE ways)
METHOD 1: the one you are looking for (because your buttons don't work) can be triggered by going to Settings->System->Clear Storage (assuming your phone still boots up and the touchscreen is usable)
METHOD 2: when the phone is POWERED OFF:
1. stick the stylus in the soft reset hole and hold it there
2. hold down the two soft keys
3. press the power button
if you try METHOD 2 and if it works, then you can safely assume that your soft keys are working and that it is indeed a software issue.
i used METHOD 1 and did a hard reset.
nothing has changed, front buttons and keyboard still refuses to work.
unfortunatly it seems it is a hardwer problem so i'm going to take it to the service.
thank you for helping me.