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Does Diamond support USA GSM bands? I think mine do.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think my Diamond (bought from Hong Kong) support USA GSM network. Please see the attached picture, it shows UMTS8500+1900 + GSM850+1900 as an option in the phone setting manual.
I made this post because I saw many people complain that the first batch of Diamond doesn't support USA GSM bands but only the Asia and Euro one.

Can u check al lines, mines is:
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
UMTS(800+2100)
UMTS(850+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(1700)
Mine is working is USA!

It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.

the bands being able to be selected means that the RIL (radio interface layer) CAN support those bands, that DOES NOT MEAN that your Phone Hardware can support it.

The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?

xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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Well the HK Diamond Spec is incorrect, it "could" be quoting the US specs but the US version isnt out for another month at least.

xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!

someone1234 said:
900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!
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hehehe...

I though this would be a good place to post this question.
I have the same bands listed as post # 2. Now my phone came out of the box like it is. No radio or rom upgrades, yet. Does that mean its Quad band unlocked already from the box? Or do I still have to load the latest radio?

Hard to say without knowing wich radio you have.

chribruu said:
Hard to say without knowing which radio you have.
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My radio is 1.00.25.03, so I would assume it's not quad band without putting one of the newer radios?

triband TD
when i got my TD, it was listed a triband. I could still use in the USA because
ATT uses 900 band also. However, their primary band is 850. THe reception with the 900 only band was spotty. I then flashed my ROM (see below) and a new radio.....05 and immediately got 4 bars where i got 1 or none. MUch improvement. However, you will NOT get 3G until you get a USA phone. It uses Edge now, (which for me is fast enough). ITs a hardware think not a ROM or radio upgrade thing to get 3G.
BTW this is my current ROM and i am very happy with my TD now. Best phone ive ever had.
Rom 1.93.456.2 WWE
Rom Date 7-10-08
Radio Version 1.00.25.05
Hard SPL 1.24
Protocol Version 52.29.25.12H

Spawn12 said:
It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.
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Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...

bobo_error said:
Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...
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I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.

mexvato said:
I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!

If the european version is missing the antenae then if he was in an area with strong enough signal wouldn't it show the 3G icon and maybe even only one bar, but that is not usable.

stpete111 said:
I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!
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The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..

mexvato said:
I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.

bobo_error said:
The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..
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That's 100% untrue.

RavenGirl said:
So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.
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The hardware he has is the DIAM160, not the DIAM100.

US 3G Touch Diamond is here

Hi guys and gals, we just got our hands on the unlocked GSM version of the Touch Diamond for the US, with US (err, AT&T) 3G. Here's my first look: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/US-3G-HTC-Touch-Diamond.htm .
It has 850/1900MHz HSDPA, and is quad band GSM. Short summary: no front-facing camera, matte back and bigger battery.
- Lisa

Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?

nice, thats awesome!

No, the US version is the DIAM110, the DIAM100 won't do US 3G.
GRIM.657 said:
Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?
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Sigh.. A different version (DIAM110) really breaks my last hope. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model would come as we are seeing now .. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.

tzour said:
Sigh.. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model as we are seeing now will come at a later date.. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110..
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Unfortunately it was a known fact that the Diamonds sold prior to the actual US release were not intended for the US and the specifications clearly showed (htc.com) that it was not US 3G capable. Problem is there are so many bad resellers that will tell you anything to get you to buy from them. I also have noticed that a lot of the on-line resellers dont list the correct information for all phones however HTC is not at fault for that.

And at the original launch of the Diamond in London back in June, HTC did state that a US version would follow in a few months. We posted that in our news section at the time. Of course, given the often long lag before we see a US version, many folks were skeptical it would really come this soon.

I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..

There is no FM
The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?

tzour said:
I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..
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But if you look at the specifications it doesnt list the US 3G Bands. You would have to know which bands are used in the US to catch this. The point here though is HTC has not marketed this in the US. I believe all of the retailers of the foreign HTC phones sell the phones without the blessing of HTC. The problem is there are a lot of suckers here in the US with no patience and make the resellers rich by paying exorbitant fees for phones that were not intended for the US market. I am included in the list of suckers.

"Network HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz"
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46646
That's from HTC's Euro site. No mention there of US bands, just Europe and Asia.
Their US site doesn't list the Touch Diamond at all, since they don't offer it here. Though I'm sure they'll update the site to add the Sprint Diamond, and thereafter the US 3G GSM version once they officially announce it.

I said a hack *might* re-enable FM. The good coders here can help with that more than I can, I'm sure. I'd like to get the FM cab from the Euro Diamond to see if that works.
GSen works just fine though . Happily rotating anywhere I please.
dariop said:
The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?
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pdagal,
Good review. Is there any notable difference in performance between the unlocked GSM version and the Sprint version, or do they basically perform the same?

Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.

pdagal said:
Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.
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pdagal - say you could have either one for your personal phone and you didnt mind going with Sprint or ATT. Which would you pick and why?

I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.

pdagal said:
I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.
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Thanks - Those are the two reasons I have been going back and forth in my head as to which way to go. The only two reasons I still keep thinking about Sprint is for the navigation software incorporated and having the Sprint TV service (although I do have a Slingbox). I used the TeleNav on a Instinct for a few days and found it very nice.

tzour said:
Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.
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This is so bloody typical. You go out of you to buy a phone that is not sold in your country and then lawyer up to soothe over your ego.
Now youre going to blame the manufacturer and the shop owners for not treating you like the 6 year-old you seem to be and force them to eat the loss for your impatience.
If i was the judge sitting on this one i'd dismiss the case with costs to you.

I have a 110 on ATT in USA and find EDGE surprisingly useable. It is quite easy to use WIFI for large downloads. I can use for real time GPS maps (Google or Live). I was going to buy US version for 3G but don't think I need to.
The phone was sold IN the US through Amazon.com. No mention of it being Euro or no 3 G for US. I took a chance hoping a ROM would fix it but don't care now because it works so well.
Cheers.

In my particular case, the diam100 was advertised (by the importer) as 3G-enabled for my country. As it failed to comply, I'll return it and get a US when available. My DIAM100 is safe, packed and ready for a swap.

HTC Touch HD - Official Letter from HTC - AT&T 3G Network

I hope with this information, Developers greater than myself (Dutty ...help dude...) can build a Radio ROM that will fix the Touch HD's US 3G issue. The information is all there, Officially From HTC. IT IS NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE - THIS CAN BE FIXED WITH SOFTWARE
HERE IS MY EMAIL THREADS TO AND FROM HTC TECHNICAL SUPPORT - happy reading ----- THE EMAIL THREAD DATES START FROM THE BOTTOM AND WORK UP.
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know how frustrating it is when the device does not work with your carrier's network. The radio hardware is in the device but since the device was not made for the North America the software does not open up the frequencies. Any software update would have to come the point of purchase that you purchased the device from and as it was not intended to be used on those frequencies the chances for software updates that would open up those frequencies are not likely. We do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/17/09 10:03:59 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Touch HD
Hey HTC,
Thank you for responding. From what you are saying though, the Hardware is in the phone? Because of it being a software issue, can this be fixed with a firmware update? Or some application that allows you to tune you Radio? I guess I'm still confused how the phone doesn't work since I'm getting AT&T signal enough to pull in EDGE over:Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) with a 3G SIM it should be 3G?
Again thanks for your time, I love this phone I'm just trying to get it to work. I've owned a 8125, Tilt, and now an HTC Touch HD. I'm a developer and wanted something with an Accelerometer but, didn't want the FUZE. I thought the HTC Touch HD was 3G and paid $700.00 for it.
Help me please techy dudes,
Darkrider
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Touch HD <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Touch HD.
I understand the frustration of your device not functioning as expected. While the device may have the same frequencies as AT&T, those frequencies on the device are calibrated for use with European and Asian carriers as a part of the radio hardware. Unfortunately, this means that there is not a way to reconfigure the device. I do apologize for the inconvenience.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 3:30:54 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey HTC,
Ok so one more set of questions. So now that we have ruled out Hardware, and we know it is AT&T Software. Is it possible to know what region of the Software could be causing the issue? Meaning is all of this just setting on the phone not configured correctly? If so would you know what settings should be configured? Is this a Program that is not reading the Radio correctly? If so is this something you would have for another HTC model that is using the same Radio Hardware? or is this all Some mysterious Hand Shake Program that is unknown to anyone but AT&T?
Thanks again,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We are happy to assist our customers. You are welcome, I hope that the information is help to you.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 12:17:12 PM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Thanks HTC,
This is all I needed to know, thank you. I've been digging in the craziest places on the web looking for that answer and it seemed no one knew the answer.
Thanks Again,
Darkrider
P.S.
I still love the damn phone.... you guy's make great stuff.
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know it is important to be able to your device with your carrier. However, the device's hardware is capable of 3G network and the bands used by AT&T. But due to differences in the software there limitations in frequencies and bands. As I explained before, the device was not originally designed for use in the States. The does not have AT&T software on it and there is not a way to put that software on the device. I do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 10:59:00 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey Cheryl,
Thank you for responding, what I find confusing to me is the phone has the 3G AT&T Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) in a drop down that I can select under "BAND" settings?
So My question is: Is Hardware on the HTC Touch HD to support US 3G?
Thank you for you time,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:49 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We know how important it is to use the device to its full potential. However, the Touch HD was not originally created with the American networks in mind. It was originally made for the European and Asian markets and the networks in those areas are different from the networks here. AT&T uses the 850 and 1900 bands in North America. The Touch HD specifications are HSDPA/WCDMA:
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Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
* Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
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Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com

We need the great chefs to start cooking!! This would really make my day, actually my year!!!

It is way beyond me, but if it is possible some here at xda will be able to do it.
But, since it hasn't been done, I doubt it.
Has to be more to it than stated in the letters
It certainly would be worth a nice donation, if it were true.
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Hello, I think there are some mis-communication of facts from HTC. The HTC Touch HD does have 3G chipsets config for Asia/Europe of 900/2100 MHz. It does not have the hardware configured for the AT&T 3G network (850/1900) or TMO 3G network (1700). Therefore, there is no way (that I am away of) to reconfig the hardware radio chip to meet US requirements. Sorry about this bad news.

Unless you have the Telstra Touch HD (with NextG support) which of course uses 850MHz and 2100MHz for Telstra's 3G (UMTS) service... Something HTC forgot to mention it seems!

It is possible the HD does not pass US Standards certification
HTC cannot state that one region or countries device or frequency will work with another country/region for legal reasons.
This thread is completely inappropriate and has absolutely nothing to do with the development of ROM's!

There was a BAN for Qualcomm powered devices in the US not long ago if you remember! The HD development was started before this BAN was lifted so I think that this is the main reason why there are no US frequences. Now HTC have new models to work on and why should they care for an "OLD" device?

People WE CAN TRY!!!! hope dies last.
Probably we can use somehow radio from FUSE because it is also old model, and by the way G1, HD, FUSE they have approximately same hardware.
Sorry my english.
I'm ready fight to the end!

AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.

I do have the Telstra 850 version that is working fine on ATT 3G(850 band). Using several of the available ROMs in this forum there has been no change in either gain or loss of this band. From some other threads, I think just using the radio ROM from this device has not been successful. So, either a subtle hardware change or a hard coded setting may be the difference between the two.

NeoS2007 said:
AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.
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Please tell me honestly is that really possible? I can try to flash it with out patching, and it won't kill my phone.

I downloaded AT&T radio from FUSE & tryed to flash it... but i faced a small problem, i need to sign RAPH's NBH for BLACKSTONE. I tryed to change string RAPH**** to BLAC**** in hex but flashing failed due to RSA_Failure... If someone of GURUS could explain me how to deal with NBH files (how to edit & sign) probably i could try to patch raphaels radio.
Sorry my english.

I am in the same boat...
I am in the same boat...I have great respect for this forum and the developers here and I would be willing to patch or flash my phone to try to get the AT&T 3G to work. Just tell me what to do. I am in the USA.
I bought this phone thinking it was 3G and have been greatly disappointed with this sad problem that I am sure can be fixed if someone took time to do it. I would gladly donate. This is the only reason I am considering selling the phone after 1 month of usage...
By the way, PM if you are interested.

You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.

stepw said:
You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.
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Thank you very much for clear answer, but why then HTC says that there is no hardware difference between HD & Telstra HD?

HTC Touch HD - US 3G Radio Configuration - Call With AT&T Tech support
Can AT&T Force certain IMEI #'s into 2G or 3G?
Here is a brief Outline of my conversation with an AT&T Tech support official. (who had a rather sexy voice by the way...)
ME) I explained that I had an AT&T 3G Tilt, and that I had bought a Touch HD, and explained I transferred my SIM and that I only got EDGE 2G.
ME) I asked her what settings I needed to configure in order to get 3G?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I would be happy to help you, I'll need the IMEI #:
ME) I gave it to her
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I have this Phone in our System to only receive 2G.
ME) Clearly my phone can receive 3G, I have the settings in my Bands frequencies the phone is picking up of (UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900))
ME) Is this your 3G frequencies?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Yes.
ME) So if my Phone can detect these frequencies, and I have a 3G SIM card in, why isn't my phone on the 3G network?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) It should be. Sir the Phone was not supplied by us, so we cannot be sure what is causing your phone's issues.
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Let's jump into your phones connection settings
---------- She had me switch just about every setting in the phone's connection settings and in the Phone's properties, with no success of 3G ever working.
But I think the importance of all this was that, she had no idea why the phone didn't work, but was under the impression from the information I gave her and the information she had the phone should have worked?
Which makes you wonder if, it was all a ploy on the part of AT&T, or does the phone plain simply non work in 3G or....
Is it all a result of the IMEI# being blocked at the core to only receive 2G.
Can we muffle the IMEI# to look like another device like the Tilt or the FUZE?

ok seriously this thread is just descending into pure ridiculousness. The t8282 cannot do US 3g PERIOD. It has nothing to do w/ ATT or any other gsm company outside of the bands they use, which is not going to change.
Your HD DOES NOT have the radio functionality to connect to US 3g, if you want one that can connect to @ least the 850mhz spectrum, which only some providers use in limited areas GET A T8285.

Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt

Darkriderdesign said:
Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt
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IMO, there's no such thing as a wrong/ridiculous opinion, anyone is free to share his thoughts and views. But it's wise to give up when it's time to give up...
Apart from a few ICs (frequency amplifiers), radio hardware is the same in T8282 and T8285. Your peers at HTC and AT&T may not be aware of the hardware differences/limitations. Unless you communicate with someone at engineering level, you won't know the truth, it's always a speculation to a certain degree.

has anyone extracted the Telstra Radio?. I'll be happy to test it on my HD.

HTC Diamond (Chinese)

Okay so i bought a Chinese HTC Diamond in China.
It looks exactly like the original one and the only difference is that it doesnt have WIFI and some other features like the camera has worse quality (2mp).
I tried using my T-Mobile (USA) Sim Card but the phone isn't connecting to the network. This phone is Triband (900/1800/1900) and works in GSM, GPRS and EDGE networks.
It is technically "unlocked" but i'm not really sure.
Anyone know what could be the problem?
Should I update the ROM to quadband to solve this?
Thank you in advance!

r u sure that one is not a fake diamond?

It is a fake diamond.... but a high quality copy, it works exactly like the original one. It was really cheap compared to it's features.
I'm just asking how can i make it work in the USA? It is triband and it should work with my tmobile sim card.

thazeid said:
It is a fake diamond.... but a high quality copy, it works exactly like the original one. It was really cheap compared to it's features.
I'm just asking how can i make it work in the USA? It is triband and it should work with my tmobile sim card.
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Usually what the spec says does not mean it actually has them, often total BS.
Don't expect too much, get a real diamond.

ericlin0122 said:
Usually what the spec says does not mean it actually has them, often total BS.
Don't expect too much, get a real diamond.
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Yeah okay, if you're all gonna say that you're not helping me.
What it's done, it's done.
I can't afford a real diamond so i got this one really cheap and its actually a really good phone. And i checked the radio and it says "GSM 900/1800" and "PCS1900" so it has to be minimum dual-band, and i believe T-Mobile should work with it.
So if anyone knows about any update for this phone that could get it to work, please tell me. For now i will just check if it works with AT&T sim card or other carriers.
Thanks.

I don't thinks update with some ROM is possible It's not a Diamond but a simil-Diamond!!!
D'rath

D'rath said:
I don't thinks update with some ROM is possible It's not a Diamond but a simil-Diamond!!!
D'rath
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I can always try, if i unlocked the 850 gsm band it would work with in the US.
The problem could be that it is only dual band (Europe) instead of triband?
So ill just call tmobile today and see what happens.

thazeid said:
Okay so i bought a Chinese HTC Diamond in China.
It looks exactly like the original one and the only difference is that it doesnt have WIFI and some other features like the camera has worse quality (2mp).
I tried using my T-Mobile (USA) Sim Card but the phone isn't connecting to the network. This phone is Triband (900/1800/1900) and works in GSM, GPRS and EDGE networks.
It is technically "unlocked" but i'm not really sure.
Anyone know what could be the problem?
Should I update the ROM to quadband to solve this?
Thank you in advance!
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It is a fake Diamond, the LCD only is QVGA!!!

what a fake...
Well, I'm a Chinese,and I'm using a HTC Touch Diamond.I'm sure that you've got a fake one,which is well known to our Chinese as a name of Shanzhai(zh sounds like dr),the name means it is made in small or OEM factory,but usually, Shanzhai cell has a lot of function(such as extraordinary standby ability etc.)

Lot of Functions and stability but Diamond's ROMs and Radios aren't compatible ^^ so thazeid don't solve his problems with Diamond SW
D'rath

[Q] Urgent About to buy LG GT540R??? Rogers Wireless

Hi first of all sorry for post here but its kind of urgent i just bought a LG GT540R on ebay for my boyfriend but i realise about a detail and hope you can help with this doubt i have:
1. What is the difference between LG GT540R and LG GT540G as mine is G and i cant find specifications for the R version
2. Carrier is from Rogers Wireless and my bf is on Telus phone will come unlocked and the Cellular Band is: Wcdma (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900 will he have any problem cause of this specifications? Im from equador so i have no idea about that band mine is HSPA / GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
Hope someone answer soon !!!
Thanks in advance
Veronica

as far as im aware the letters mean what carrier they are locked to. not to shore though.

Yeah "R" designation is for carrier that bought bulk order from lg.
MY ANDROIDSKY

The specs should be same! Hope it helps Nica? Svlh
MY ANDROIDSKY

It should work, bcos WCDMA is UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
If your phone works in this band, his phone will work too. I think G,R,N maybe will differ bcos it have maybe another apps

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