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New Sense UI on HTC hero?

anyone seen this yet?
i have and it looks tasty
if u havent check it out here
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/24/htc-hero-details-begin-leaking-from-htcs-own-website/
any thoughts on this being ported to a winmo HD?
because it looks so much nicer than touch flo?
post your thoughts people.

My thought is that it will not be ported. It's running on android, and uses android interfaces to communicate with the device.
We could only dream that at some point our blackstones will be able to run android.. These new android phones are starting to make me regret ever getting the HD

abats said:
My thought is that it will not be ported. It's running on android, and uses android interfaces to communicate with the device.
We could only dream that at some point our blackstones will be able to run android.. These new android phones are starting to make me regret ever getting the HD
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According to the HTC press release, HTC Sense will appear on ALL future HTC phones. This should mean that we will see it on Windows Mobile phones soon. Maybe then we will see it ported to the Blackstone.

regret getting a blackstone! take a look at what u just said and re think it! lol

Yeah, I'm a sinner, sorry
bad bad bad abats!
/enjoys blackstone again

Microsoft is so slow on moving with things
Android really looks like taking off. the only thing that prevented me from going android is that it seemed very bandwidth heavy. now seeing hero and android apps ahhh.. what are they doing at microsoft!! come on guys make it easy for me to develop apps!!! get your marketplace going !! come one balmer get onto a stage and do a crazy and get us excited about windows mobile again. wm6.5 is such a cop out.

but why do all android phones have a huge chin! thats another thing letting them down in my opinion, that and that so far they are only on t mobile and voda in the uk......No thanks!

g1nchy said:
Android really looks like taking off. the only thing that prevented me from going android is that it seemed very bandwidth heavy. now seeing hero and android apps ahhh.. what are they doing at microsoft!! come on guys make it easy for me to develop apps!!! get your marketplace going !! come one balmer get onto a stage and do a crazy and get us excited about windows mobile again. wm6.5 is such a cop out.
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yepp....windows mobile is dying slowly That why my Blackstone is my last WiMo device...iPhone and Android have a bright future...WiMo doesn't.

after more looking this new UI is so nice, widgets and everything, better contacts management and stuff. i want i want i want! please be on a winmo device so it can be ported

android porting to HD is being worked on.. lets keep our fingers crossed

HTC SENSE, looks interesting Let's wait for new cooked rom

lol, maybe chefs here can cook up something =)

Now THAT'S some serious ui!!
Can't wait till some xda-blackstone-chef gets his hands on this one...

it is coming to Windows Mobile accoring to this...http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
crosses fingers for an HD port!

I have to say that this HTC Sense UI looks great and seems to be very user friendly. I believe that sooner or later we will have "Sense" on ours Blackstones Patience...

the htc hero version can't be portet...even if android is running on the blackstone....there's a resolution problem...cause specs are as follows:
Inside you'll find Qualcomm's MSM7200A proc running Android at 528MHz, 512MB/288MB ROM/RAM, 3.2-inch TFT-LCD with 320 x 480 pixel rez, 900/2100MHz HSPA and Quad-band GSM, trackball, GPS, 802.11b/g WiFi, 3.5mm audio jack, G-sensor, compass, and 5 megapixel auto-focus cam with microSD expansion. It's all there baby.
But this ui will be available for windows mobile too...so I guess we will get a working version by the end of this years (at latest!!!).

HTC First Look Video of whats to come.....
Full promotional video from HTC can be downloaded HERE
VERY Impressive!!!!!
Expected UK Release Date 3rd July
I think this will be my next "adventure" - the main constraint for me will be Blackberry support though.....
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Looks like Point UI.
But it is smoothhhhhhhhh! Please port ass soon ass possible!!

the new ui is based on manila, the only difference is layout.
you have to think, the original android UI is used on all previous android devices.
this is the first UI built by HTC for the android OS.
so can be easily built for WM by HTC.

so glad i spotted this and posted it before everyone else did lol

HTC Sence and Diamond2

Will HTC sence be available for htc diamond2 ???

They could do one of 3 things:-
1) Use it to sell the new devices.
2) Release it for older devices and make as huge deal of it, to show how well they treat people who buy their devices.
3) Put it on the phones which are getting the WM6.5 Updates.
3) I doubt.
2) Maybe, but unlikely.
1) Probably.

trinode said:
3) Put it on the phones which are getting the WM6.5 Updates.
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WM6.5??? Isn't it based on Android instead of WM???

the HTC Sense is coming for all OS:
http://gigaom.com/2009/06/24/htc-hero-brings-sense-to-the-market/

Looks like TF3D crossed with PountUI2. Again no WM Today support. All applet based. HTC custom applet format probably.
See video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKTDSfbcbBU
Note the browser (as this vid is Android). It will be very Ironic when Microsoft sue Google for shipping Android with Mobile Chrome
Actually the applets are not full screen AND not even screen width. PointUI responded to users and have an applet structure to utilize free screen space. I am scoring HTC with a FAIL for having to go down the same learning curve after it has already been done and proven a mistake. Bigger applets you clowns!

All i know is i want it, because if it wasn't for the HTC software on WM devices they would be rubbish!
So cant i can wait to give it a go

tehhoe said:
All i know is i want it, because if it wasn't for the HTC software on WM devices they would be rubbish!
So cant i can wait to give it a go
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hehe, that is one opinion.
IMHO, if it can't be customised to be practical to your own needs then it is just extended TF3D gimmick. I may be able to swap to a calendar view in 57 different ways and view it in different 17 styles and 200 colours but if I can't decide how many days appointments to see in preview mode then we are just back to bling (another action movie with no plot).
We will wait and see

HTC Sense, TF3D 2.5 or something else on WM6.5 devices ?

Sense vs. TF3D?

it's nice i guess. more of a free flowing TF3D with MS3 sort of function. more excited about TF3D2.5 tbh.

Will this (TF3D 2.5) be able to be implemented into the cooked ROM's..
hoping so...

HTC Sense interface possibly for Blackstone

I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated that
Sense is niet voorbehouden aan Android, zei marketingtopman Michael Wang in een vraaggesprek met Tweakers.net. "Sense is geen Android-versie van TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is alleen een interface, Sense is de paraplu die daar boven hangt."
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or in English:
Sense is not reserved for Android, said marketing chief executive Michael Wang in an interview with Tweakers.net. "Sense is no Android version of TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is only an interface, Sense is the umbrella that is hovering over it."
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In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?

bouvrie said:
I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated thator in English:
In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?
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thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it

Lazy79 said:
thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it
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There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.

sawer82 said:
There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.

sawer82 said:
There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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thats the 2nd time in two threads you've stated that. Where are you getting this information from???

bouvrie said:
Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.
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It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.

I ordered the tp2 and are a owner of the blackstone to, and after i saw the interface and what android is capable of, i decided to write a mail to htc, and i got a reply that the new interface will not come to tp2. But there will be a wm 6.5 update with tf3d for the tp2. and its very unlikley it will come to the blackstone i think, if it comes it will be unofficially. myself has canceled my tp2 and will wait some more and see what will come out hero will come in two flavors, one with qwerty and one without (hero). And maybe later some more phones, What i am wondering is would it be easier to run winmo 6.1 on an android phone or is it just as hard to get it as it is to get android on the windows phone?

sawer82 said:
It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.
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I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.

DRTigerlilly said:
I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.
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Sorry for taking so long to respond, i had to go throught my browsing history.
Here is where i read it: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/24/htc-sense-ui-taking-android-to-the-next-level.html
But to tell the truth, i also searched Mobile Burn and didn't find any statement.

There are screenshots of sense on windows mobile. Its not the same as the android version but rather an update of the rhodium tf3d
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529650&highlight=sense
here, first pic.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0

@ask768 yeah not interested in tf3d v2.5...Sense looks way better.

reading the actual HTC press release, found this
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance peoples lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected
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So i think it is safe to say Sense UI should be coming to Windows Mobile.

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Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0
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sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong

lool you're right, i want the hero rom on my rhodiuuuuuuuuum :'(

crashDebug said:
sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong
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actually it IS a HD in a clear crystal case its running on but its NOTSense its Manilla (TF3D) version 2.5
and there are already ROMs on the forum trialling it...but its still rather buggy..i tried Miri's ROM

Manila 2.5 IS Sense!
“HTC never indicated that the new UI would be available on WinMo – it won’t be, in fact. The confusion comes from some sites not getting their facts straight. HTC said that TouchFLO 3D was part of Sense. Sense is *already* on WinMo.
The fact that HTC has not given the new UI on the Hero a proper name has led people to assuming that Sense refers only to the UI on the Hero, which is not the case. In any case, HTC caused the confusion by not giving the new UI a real name it could refer to. Sense is merely a philosophy, not an actual user interface.
Make no mistake, TouchFLO 3D is staying on WinMo devices, and the new, unnamed UI is what HTC will be using for Android devices that lack the "with Google" branding.
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5310

Sense = Android
Manila = Windows Mobile
Manila 2.5 != Sense
(Sense = Cool)

Wrong.
Sense = the name for the concept/philosophy behind all HTC interfaces
unnamed = HTC's Android interface
Manila = HTC's WM interface
==> Both Manila and HTC's Android interface are Sense.

2late, everybody is refering to sense when they talk about the new android ui.
all the rest is manila.

That's wrong nevertheless, and it's causing confusion.
Manila 2.5 is part of Sense and Manila will stay on Windows Mobile. The interface that HTC has programmed for Android won't come to Windows Mobile but Manila will evolve and eventually become more like that Android interface in the future.

Andriod / Sense UI port for Touch Pro 2 - Would you pay?

I've been looking at the HTC Hero - seen a couple of ports have come to the G1 etc..
Not sure how possible it's going to be able to port it to the HTC Touch Pro 2.
I've seen someone has already started a project to create a better WM ROM and is requesting donations towards the project.
I'd quite happily donate $50 to any reputable developer on here to port Android / Sense UI from the HTC Hero to the HTC Touch Pro 2.
So anyone who would also donate to a project like this, please vote (and specify how much you'd be willing to donate) so it may stimulate some interest in a developer picking up the project .
Also please only vote if you would seriously donate.

unless you havent heard, the htc sense interface will be coming to windows mobile in the future (straight from htc themselves). The real development will be required to flash it onto the tp2 then as it will likely only be for the new htc models to be released. As I type this in on my TP2 I would be willing to contribute towards that effort, but I think it would be too difficult to take from andriod.

shure2 said:
unless you havent heard, the htc sense interface will be coming to windows mobile in the future (straight from htc themselves). The real development will be required to flash it onto the tp2 then as it will likely only be for the new htc models to be released. As I type this in on my TP2 I would be willing to contribute towards that effort, but I think it would be too difficult to take from andriod.
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This been confirmed by HTC? - where?
As i've seen nowt solid from HTC

thedalmeny said:
This been confirmed by HTC? - where?
As i've seen nowt solid from HTC
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It was confirmed in the press conference on the HTC meeting in London on the 24th when they announced the Hero

50 no problem if there was a guarantee the software would be ported over with no "quirks" as in, everything just worked the way it should.
maybe more then 50....

im down for $50 also

£20 here aswell NP

me 2 50$ is nothing if i 'll get Androit on my tp2

I'm down for 50$ bones! But it has to WORK that means WiFi Bluetooth everything.

soljin said:
I'm down for 50$ bones! But it has to WORK that means WiFi Bluetooth everything.
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I would pay €100 to get everything working on Android for sure.

Getting Androd to run and Porting Sense from Hero are two seperate things.
If you read back the whole story, you will see that Sense as as will not come to Windows Mobile in the Exact form untill maybe Toucflo3D V3.
With HTC still playing with a Beta TouchFlo 2.5 when would you exactly expect someone to port the non existing TouchFlo 3.0 that "might" have Customisable options.
Not trying to be an ass here, just unclear what is wanted here?
Android on the TP2? (Propable)
Or just Sense? (Improbaple, but probable if Android gets running)
Sense on WinMo? (No Way Hosé HTC said so)

I'd pay 50 for android on the tp2
dont even really care about sense UI ... ok maybe I care a little
but android itself should be number one, but since the hero is so similar why not?
Also I'd prefer blowing off WM completly and not messing with haret

thinking
I'm thinking to buy a TP2 or a Hero (not in a week, but within a couple off months), now using a kaiser.
If this projects will start sure i'll donate and my choice is made

Maybe this is a nice start?
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite

bigchrizzieboy said:
I'm thinking to buy a TP2 or a Hero (not in a week, but within a couple off months), now using a kaiser.
If this projects will start sure i'll donate and my choice is made
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Ditto... I'm deciding between the Hero and the Rhodium, and the only reason I'm leaning towards the Hero is because it comes with Android installed and therefore everything works. If Android worked better on the Rhodium than it currently does on the Kaiser (wifi,gps, etc. working without a hitch) then I'd not only buy a Rhodium, but I'd contribute to the porting effort with a donation.

I'd love to see Android coming to TP2, best with Sense UI, as a perfect match. Yes, if it works well (stable enough to do business with) I, too, will contribute $50.

I would love this port!

Well apparently it can be done. Already ported to the HTC Vouge, it's slow but the Vouge is and old and slow device so that is expected. The TP2 is probably ideal since it has the same processor and ram as the Htc Hero. We will have to wait and see.

would pay more than 50bucks

I don't know. $50 seems a bit much to pay for a new os, after just paying $350+ for a new phone. On the other hand, I love Android and TP2. I would be willing to pay some to help development of Android on TP2. But only for Android+SenseUI. I don't need senseUI on a windows build.

Android on JADE

Alright people, after some litle research, i have found out that Android currently boots on HTC Touch Cruise ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LYnTxhj44 ). HTC Touch Cruise is using the same processor as the HTC Touch 3G, Qualcomm MSM7225. So is there a way we can port the version from Polaris to Jade ?
C'mon people, lets start a project, as i see many PDAs out there can now successfully boot Android, lets not leave out our wonderful Jade...
WE WANT ANDROID !

Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.

anikolop said:
Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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hhmmmm...i see, didnt realise that there was a previous version. But c'mon, no one knows how to port android to MSM7225 ?

HTC tattoo
I am also looking for ages for some android port to the MSM 7225. Now, finally, an android device similar to the Jade is coming out before october!!
And for all the people saying 320x240 is too small for android, well, the Tattoo seems to do fine with that..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/htc-tattoo-aka-click-brings-android-sense-ui-to-all/
Now we just have to wait for someone porting that android ROM to Jade..
help?
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oh and here's already the HTC official site! http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html

At least android for msm7225
now it seems almost sure that at some time we will have the opportunity to run android in our phones.

oooh I CANT WAIT !
Definitely count me in as a tester !

Yeah, it will run on 320x240. But as far as I know most apps are designed for higher resolutions. So it won't be really useful.

It seems that HTC is releasing a new device based on the same processor as our jade, with Android and 2.8 screen, HTC Tattoo. Maybe there is still a hope on seeing a port to Jade

Hello ,
Have You news of this possibility "Android for HTC Jade"?

I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!

i really hope so too, cant wait to play around with android on it !

@StewieTux
hi
u really have a point here yes our phone isnt popular and for ur info
ppc geek does not have a forum for us and it has every other HTC phone old and new but not ours even after me asking so many time now i days i don't visit the site
so i really dought if well get android unless one of our great cooks decides to do some thing regarding the same
but count me in to test any ROM for our great jade i love this phone man
StewieTux said:
I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
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Yeah I'm afraid we just have to wait till the release of the tattoo , I lost hope for a quicker solution...

if it can work on gene why not jade
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692

haree said:
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see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
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The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html

Hi,
I was browsing around and found a new HTC phone with Andriod 1.5 (yet to be launched). The phone is called HTC Tattoo. Refer to the following link:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php
The hardware of this phone is almost similar to Jade ..... Same processor and screen resolution.
Look at the comparison below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2526&idPhone1=2932
If Andriod 1.5 is possible in that phone, I am sure it can be ported to Jade. I am just wondering about the few more hardware buttons and higher ROM.
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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Looking forward to test this and share my feeback
With pleasure, kindly count me on your testers list
[email protected]

hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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haree said:
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.

hi
buddy ur breaking my heart i really did think their will be a time when we will get to use Android now if the info u give is right them our chances look very very bleek
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
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