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AT&T Tilt, Windows Mobile 6.1 & iGuidance (oh MY!)

So much for any support from iNavCorp! Here is the time line of events which began with the opening of a Service Request with iNavCorp on Thursday, August 28th.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​Description of Problem - I have Windows Mobile 6.1 on my AT&T Tilt Pocket PC. iGuidance recognizes my internal GPS, obtains signal lock on satellites without a problem, but does not automatically refresh the map. I know for a fact that this is not an issue between iGuidance and the devices\'s \'built in\' GPS receiver because the GPS Info screen displays in \'real time\' (speed/coordinates etc. all match up with movement and speed of vehicle). It appears to only be an issue with the map display, which will no longer display movement in \'real-time\'. It will capture a given map location and speed, and hold them until the screen is manually refreshed. I am familiar with the \'panning mode\' for the map, and am certain that it is not the issue as I am not viewing the map in panning mode. I see no updates available, other than your recent v4.02 update, which I have applied. The problem still remains. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated, as I am sure there are many others with this identical issue. I have paid good money for navigation software that is at this time, completely useless. I look forward to your prompt response. Sincerely, Jeff Spencer​~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​...followed by their reply, received late afternoon on Friday, August 29th
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​Hi Jeff:
iGuidance worked fine w/ the built-in gps in HTC until recently after HTC released their new ROM w/ wm6.1. W/ this new ROM on your Tilt, iGuidance will now only work w/ either an external GPS, or w/ the built-in gps but by using the universal serial port driver provided through a 3rd party program such as GPSGate from www.franson.com instead. If you choose to go w/ the 2nd option, please note that the basic version would be sufficient.
Thank you and we apologize for the inconvenience.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com​~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​....and finally my reply to them
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​The very reason that I picked up the Tilt was so that I would not be required to carry around additional components.
Thanks for what you ridiculously refer to as support.
To tell you the honest truth, I am now highly dissatisfied with iNavCorp and your product. I would expect at the very least (at least from a reputable company that stands behind it's product) a forthcoming patch, or work with the phone vendor to provide a patch, that would provide a no-cost universal serial port driver to correct the issue with your application. I now see how well you stand behind iGuidance and will invariably sell it off. Furthermore, as a Systems Administrator with [national company name omitted]., I will have no trouble whatsoever going out of my way to disparage your product and use this instance as an example as to just how poor the support is with your company and how inflexible your product is.
Furthermore, as a member of such forums as; GPS Passions, AT&T, and XDA Developers, I fully intend to post both my request for support and your reply, as stated below to each and every one of these forums and strongly urge others to do the same.
Honestly, did you see NVIDIA say "sorry" to Windows customers who had upgraded to Microsoft Vista? I don't think so. Stand behind and support your product, or face the backlash of the consumer.
Sincerely,
Jeff Spencer
Verona​~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~​I have made good on my words to iNavCorp. I now urge anyone else as irritated (perhaps mentally disturbed) as I am, to make their voices heard by opening service requests on their own. Sure we can install GPSGate on our devices, or purchase an external GPS receiver, but what kind of response is it from a company to direct customers of their product to do so!! As stated in my reply to them, would NVIDIA have told it's customers "too bad", but you can purchase something else because you chose to upgrade to Windows Vista and now our graphics card won't work as advertised? HELL NO!!!
...okay, time for me to grab a beer and cool off.
Regards,
Spence

Here is an update - iNavCorp's reply to me
Hi Jeff:
Please note that the incompatibility is not between iGuidance and windows mobile OS, but only between iGuidance and the HTC driver. Further, HTC's new ROM was released much later after iGuidance v4 was released, and being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request. Our programmers have been looking at this issue and if a solution may be determined, we will make sure it's included in iGuidance 2009. If not, we will continue to include the incompatiblity w/ HTC on our website as we do now to minimize their inconvenience.
Thank you.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com​
My reply
iNavCorp,
Please excuse my error, it is indeed HTC and not AT&T's hardware, however HTC is far from the small company that you described as "being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request".
HTC makes over 80% of mobile phones running the Windows OS. Please read up on HTC and educate your staff on this 'small company'.
http://www.htcamerica.net/about/default.html
I shall contact HTC and pursue this with them, and ask them why they are too small to work with correcting an issue with your product.
As for my chances of purchasing iGuidance 2009 if you can't support your current product? ...I'd say the chance of that is about as good as my chance at winning a write-in campaign for the 2008 presidential elections.
Thank you for providing me with another opportunity to post and ridicule your poor customer support.
Jeff Spencer​
a second reply that I had received while typing my reply
Hi Jeff:
Please note that the incompatibility is not between iGuidance and windows mobile OS, but only between iGuidance and the HTC driver. Further, HTC's new ROM was released much later after iGuidance v4 was released, and being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request. Our programmers have been looking at this issue and if a solution may be determined, we will make sure it's included in iGuidance 2009. If not, we will continue to include the incompatiblity w/ HTC on our website as we do now to minimize their inconvenience.
Thank you.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com​
My follow-up reply
I apologize for the terse nature of my prior message. I have just realized that I have mis-understood your comment about being a small company.
I believe the reply you had sent me (below) was worded in such a way that left the impression that you were referring to HTC as a small company.
I have later received a message indicating that you are working on identifying the incompatibility and provide a fix. I appreciate that, I really do, however please don't preach to me about not being able to be 100% compatible. iGuidance 4 was compatible with my AT&T Tilt, and now it is not. As a customer, I do not care, who made what driver change at what point in time. The fact of the matter, as your product, you are obligated to support it. Simply removing every device that changes from your list of compatible products will do little other than shrink your install base and alienate your paying customers.
I thank you for your attention to this issue, and look forward to an agreeable solution.
Jeff Spencer
Verona​
I'm done for now. I am planning to contact HTC, to make them aware of the issue and ask if they can put one of their support team members in touch with iGuidance, but I've a 5 year old to put down for the night, followed shortly after by myself.
Cheers,
Spence

Joe has already corrected this.
Search iGuidance in these forums and you will find it.

cyjeff said:
Joe has already corrected this.
Search iGuidance in these forums and you will find it.
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Thanks cyjeff, I had done that, but hadn't seen anything recent. I must have been too specific in my search. I've checked iNavCorp's site and the now have the issue listed as an incompatibility that they are working on.
**** Note: iGuidance is incompatible w/ the new ROM released by HTC which enabled the internal gps chip. iGuidance will continue to work with an external gps receiver while using PPC6800/Mogul, but in order for iGuidance to work w/ the internal gps, user will need to download/purchase Franson's GPSGate (express or standard version) via http://franson.com/gpsgate/
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Regards,
Spence

Thanks again cyjeff!
It took a bit to find it, but after searching on "iGuidance" and "Joe", I've got Joe's work-around.
Here it is for anyone else stumbling upon this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=40
Thanks,
Spence

SpenceJT said:
Thanks again cyjeff!
It took a bit to find it, but after searching on "iGuidance" and "Joe", I've got Joe's work-around.
Here it is for anyone else stumbling upon this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=40
Thanks,
Spence
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You are welcome.
It works like a champ... I have used it myself.

Funny iNavCorp appears to have been out-done by an enterprising developer posting in forums!
I've installed the cab and am off to do some testing. I have no doubt it will work. I am thankful that we've got a forum such as this, where people can assist each other. I'll have to donate or send a 'cookie' to this "Joe" guy!
Regards,
Spence

SpenceJT said:
Funny iNavCorp appears to have been out-done by an enterprising developer posting in forums!
I've installed the cab and am off to do some testing. I have no doubt it will work. I am thankful that we've got a forum such as this, where people can assist each other. I'll have to donate or send a 'cookie' to this "Joe" guy!
Regards,
Spence
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Well, you can put them in the same boat as the guys from ATT, HTC, Microsoft and a multitude of other software providers that get "help" from the volunteers here.

Good luck getting any kind of real support from iNav. After spending a couple hundred on what they call "updates" which are minor bug fixes, I will never spend a dime on this company. When I purchased version 3, WM6 came out which was incompatible with this version. Instead of releasing a fix, iNav released version 4 which is no different than version 3 (slightly newer map), and charged $80. When I initially had problems with version 4 getting to work, I always got generic email telling me that it was either my phone or the OS i was running.
I am not even sure how many programmers they have. It might be a one person venture under the disguise of "Corp". If they are such a small company, they should not call themselves a Corporation.

actually, v4 is a big step forward w/ TTS. But with a big step backward by taking out the option to cut map.
BTW, where do you get 4.02 update and what's being update/fix in this release?

Did you guys also notice the single post in that thread about the DNS server change that also corrects the problem. There is another thread out there about this as well. If you change your DNS servers to Open DNS, vs using the default that ATT is providing, for whatever reason it fixes the issues w/ iGuidance. I'm still running 3.0.1 but planning on upgrading to 2009 when it's available.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention that, it's the route I went rather than the other options...using Open DNS isn't such a bad idea anyway.
Chris

Thanks This worked great for me. I will have to rethink my next iguidance purchase. I think they are going to force the ole' extra SD Card like garmin does.

AT&T plus iGuidance = Headache
verendus said:
Good luck getting any kind of real support from iNav. After spending a couple hundred on what they call "updates" which are minor bug fixes, I will never spend a dime on this company. When I purchased version 3, WM6 came out which was incompatible with this version. Instead of releasing a fix, iNav released version 4 which is no different than version 3 (slightly newer map), and charged $80. When I initially had problems with version 4 getting to work, I always got generic email telling me that it was either my phone or the OS i was running.
I am not even sure how many programmers they have. It might be a one person venture under the disguise of "Corp". If they are such a small company, they should not call themselves a Corporation.
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I agree so much with everything you said. I spent $69.00 on my program about 3 years ago and I'll never give them another dime. Thank God for Joe and if I had it to do over again, I'd buy CO-PILOT LIVE. What a nice looking program that is.

Shazam for WM 6?

Hi,
Shazam is a cool application that recognizes music and tells you the who, what, where, when about it. It is availble for iPhones. I read that it is also available for the Android platform. Has anyone here got that running and if so, could they check out if Shazam can be made available for the Raphael (or any other WM device, for that matter).
I'd be very happy.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Izzard

Izzard said:
Hi,
Shazam is a cool application that recognizes music and tells you the who, what, where, when about it. It is availble for iPhones. I read that it is also available for the Android platform. Has anyone here got that running and if so, could they check out if Shazam can be made available for the Raphael (or any other WM device, for that matter).
I'd be very happy.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Izzard
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There are a few cabs of it floating around. Search for Music ID

It had been posted on PPCGeeks, but was pulled, according to the poster, because of a legal threat from the publisher.

http://rapidshare.com/files/182497722/VGA_MusicID_1.3.16.CAB.html (ten times downloadable)

Shazam for WM6.1?
The link was run out of downloads. Could you please renew it so I can try to get shazam on my HTC Touch HD?
I thank thee deeply!

Your Fuze should already have it,located in programs Music ID.

IF your looking for the FREE version it is no longer available. If you searched the forum for Shazam MusicID you would have found this in an abundant amount of threads. The days when Shazam made a free version are gone. It costs $ now!

ryncppr said:
IF your looking for the FREE version it is no longer available. If you searched the forum for Shazam MusicID you would have found this in an abundant amount of threads. The days when Shazam made a free version are gone. It costs $ now!
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Possibly not 100% accurate, i found a version on here yesterday after spending about 20 mins with the search button. There were several trial versions, a couple of deleted links & some qvga / non-touch versions. The one i found works perfectly on my UK T-mob vario IV. Yes, in the "help" section it tells me that i can use it as much as possible for a fixed subscription, and that if i visit a cingular website i can remove the subscription from my (i guess) cingular account (which, being in the UK i dont have).
I've also read that they ditched the subscription idea some time ago (presumably they make their money from you buying the full tracks or ring tones etc etc).
The cab files are out there, i dont know if they are permitted under forum rules (some versions have been removed at the request of a copyright holder) so if you want one, search & download before the mods are asked to delete them.

Shazam
Guys,
Please have a look here :
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/shazam-music-identification-app-for-windows-mobile-get-it-now

just get midomi here on XDA, it works much better and faster

Shazam (trial) available on Windows Marketplace
http://marketplace.windowsphone.com/Default.aspx
TT

Amazing app
Definitely in marketplace

l3it3r said:
just get midomi here on XDA, it works much better and faster
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+1 for this. Free. Works fast.

Yep, Midomi is great.

Midomi rocks, I just wish it would save your searches.

Does anybody know where to buy Shazam premium version ?
It's on UK Marketplace but i live in France and though i tried to buy it there, it's not possible because my creditcard is not from UK.
Anybody have a clue ?

Spb mobile shell 3.0 cab

THIS ISNT WAREZ ITS THE 15 DAY UNLESS YOU REGISTER...ENJOY
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This is warez
it has never been released to the public yet
mods please delete the links cause this has not been released to the public yet for sale
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
this is the developers website
they only show 2.0 as of april 16,2009

herg62123 said:
This is warez
it has never been released to the public yet
mods please delete the links cause this has not been released to the public yet for sale
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
this is the developers website
they only show 2.0 as of april 16,2009
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It's on their servers: mod - link removed
THIS IS THE DEVELOPERS LINK

keyword developers link
it is for developers only and not for the general public just yet

Soooo all the versions of opera mobile, ie6, ie7, ie8, ROM parts from unreleased phones are warez? You still have to buy mobile shell 3.0...its not cracked hacked or otherwise. I don't see it any different than a ROM dump or here's a big one winmo 6.5!!

Herg, it's not warez It's just alpha or beta. None of the roms we have are released yet, they're leaked. This is a leaked trial. So technically it's not.
and btw, did you ever port Xtrakt to VGA?

can anyone confirm this is working?

Thanks,
I have been waiting on this one since the MWC announcement. Performing a backup and and then gonna test it out.

it works perfect... just waiting on some1 to get the key for it to make it full version... ( if u know what i mean)

uglynip1980 said:
it works perfect... just waiting on some1 to get the key for it to make it full version... ( if u know what i mean)
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Don't quote me on this, but I think if you actually stop being a cheapskate and buy the program you can get a key (if you know what I mean).

doest work/play well with TF3D V2 I can confirm this and that sux, maybe the final release will be better!!!

michelkenny said:
don't quote me on this, but i think if you actually stop being a cheapskate and buy the program you can get a key (if you know what i mean).
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MOD EDIT .....warez are not talked about here....if you want to do that i think you should move to another forum.

Has anyone tested it yet if it works with REAL VGA at 96 dpi? The official version 2 does not.

uglynip1980 said:
well if i can get it for free then why should i buy it??? its like all the ppl here, ppl that are using win 6.5.. its not for free.. u have to pay m/soft for it.. but the chef are just porting it over for us to use and to make it better for us to use.. it the same same thing... but different...if u know what i mean..
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youre ignorance is astounding!! Did you realize that when we all purchased our phones, we purchased the rights to a license. This license entitled us to a copy of WinMo. Everytime we flash, we keep flashing the same damn OS on to our devices.
If we use the ported the 6.5, its not official. Its something that some brilliant guys put together based on what they know. Its completely different then an actual release.
Its not the same thing. You did not purchase a device with a copy of Mobile Shell 3.0 already installed. This program is in development. Some dude, with a wife and kids, is working hard on the programming of this software, so all of us end users would turn around and pay the $30 for his hard work and countless hours.
Just because you are a cheap ass bastard doesnt mean you need to rip off all the hard working people at SPB. Its douchebags like you that give our community a bad reputation. The program isnt even released, so you cant even purchase a serial. But when it is released, I hope you can see past your ignorance, mature up, and take ownership of your very own registered copy..... if you know what I mean...

Not working...
Of course some of us really bought SPB MS 2, and would really like to take a sneak peak at what 3.0 offers. This download would be really usefull for that, were it not that it is overdue (Evaluation time left is set to 0 days after install).

What should be added to SPB
What I would really like to see for new versions is:
1 Creating appointments in the mobile shell, creating contacts etc. Let's say I would really like it to be extended to a finger friendly PIM utility. But I'm affraid that's to much to ask...
2 Also that the appointment notification is hidden from within SPB is really a shame, that should be fixed right away. My alarm goes off every morning, and than I need to close SPB and use manilla to turn off the alarm.
I'm still using a combo of the new Rhodium Manilla and SPB 2, with the WinMo65 skin which looks really nice, but is a bit too slow. I like the calender tab of Rhodium manilla, and also what they did with the contacts. I like the weather application and the missed calls/texts of SPB.

uglynip1980 said:
well if i can get it for free then why should i buy it??? its like all the ppl here, ppl that are using win 6.5.. its not for free.. u have to pay m/soft for it.. but the chef are just porting it over for us to use and to make it better for us to use.. it the same same thing... but different...if u know what i mean..
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I've got a Fuze and the upgrade to 6.5 is free for me, when it's officially released from HTC; that's what I was told by the sales rep when I bought the phone. Im running Sheps 6.5 Rom now - but I am anxious for the official release, so XDA chefs can make MS and HTC's work even better.
6.5 is not warez. It's not a release version and its not for sale yet because its not finished (seems close to finished tho). I definitely do backups.
SPB 3.0, so far, rocks IMO. It is not warez either (yet) because its obviously a trial. SPB 2.0 was pretty good too, and if you didn't pay for that, you are a cheap bastard as Chapmeister said before.
I consider this a leaked demo, possibly of a beta but I bet its a release candidate. Someone said its a developer release, not sure what that means exactly - but it's not "stolen" or "cracked"...
I've already decided to buy it, when it becomes release. I turn TF3D2 off and SPB 3 runs great. I really like TF3D2 also, so I'll use this time with SPB 3.0 to compare/contrast, but so far I think SPB got a lot of things right.
You sir, should be ashamed for using serialz, or whatever to avoid paying someone for their hard work. If I were you I would shut up and not be proud that you got something for free, that's being a low-life and as XDA is a website for DEVELOPERS, your position is most unwelcome.... I hope you understand.

any screenshots or observations of differences?
I have (and paid for) Mobile Shell 2.0 and love it. Would like to see what was changed.

Ok so i thought i would start looking at the files for MS3 and it seems that is uses the same type of *.dat files as MS2. Then i tried to extract them and found that the same extraction password used in MS2 works for the new files as well. So skinning should be about the same as before.
Extraction Password = b0fm18zq

Where can we buy a license for it!!!
SPB isnt selling it yet...I purchased 2.0 a long time ago and really liked it... How can I register 3.0?
So far 3.0 ROCKS!!! I really like SPB, they put out some great stuff! I also use their Phone and Time for the "rule based" profile switching and rock solid alarms!
3.0 takes it to the next level! Custom screen layout with 2 panels (kinda like the ipone sliding home screen)....
No issues yet, I just switched over to:
[ROM]WWE|Chrome series w/Rhodium manila
seems to be working fine with TF3D but I may turn it off! SPB has everything that I need!

Porting Apple app : AVIC Feeds

Hey
Is there any way known to mankind, to port an Apple (iPhone/iTouch) app to "the better OS", Android?
I am looking for this app to run on the android and interacts with my Pioneer NAV....
Any ideas or places to start?
Thanks

Different languages. You would have to completely remake the app.

or write a wrapper around it. Not that i think it'll be possible like that...

thanks.....
Thanks guys - appreciated.
...Or contact the supplier (Pioneer). Which I did and they "will look into it" - Yeah right!
Darn ipod - that is ruling the world

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Darn ipod - that is ruling the world[/I]
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Hah they wish...Android will rise and take over! >:O lol

blackberry version
They've released a Blackberry version of the AVIC feeds which would be written in Java so a port shouldn't be all that hard.

Thanks......
shoemael said:
They've released a Blackberry version of the AVIC feeds which would be written in Java so a port shouldn't be all that hard.
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That is a good catch. Although I think the code would be licensed to Pioneer - but as least we know it could be done.....(but who would know, right....shhhhhh)
Now if I can just get a developer on it - I'm a few things, but not that....
Anybody interested to help with this?

x2 on the avic feeds for droid. would love to have this on my hd2 which is better than any iphone imho! even if it were a windows app but now that i have jumped on the droid wagon how badass would that be!

Any word on this? I would love to have this functioning! Got a Z110bt with the Z120bt software\bluetooth update and love it.

AVIC FEEDS for Windows Phone
I was able to write a version of AVIC FEEDS for Windows Phone. It turned out to be pretty easy. You simply create a contact with the GPS coordinates in the name using Pioneer's special encoding. Then the contacts are synced via Bluetooth and you can click on them on the head unit to start directions.
Does anyone have the need for a Windows Phone version? I can send out a link to beta testers and if I get enough interest I can publish it on the marketplace.
I don't know anything about developing for Android but if anyone else does, I can help with the logistics of how the app needs to work in order to function with the Pioneer head unit.

It would be awesome if someone ported the app to android. Hope a Dev has an interest in it?

I have gone ahead and published the app. I can't post a link to it because I'm new but you can search for "AVIC FEEDS" in the Windows Phone Marketplace.
Hopefully an Android dev out there can check out my source code and port it as well.

any uopdates on this?

[Q] Touchdown Pro - IMEI number

I am trying to get Touchdown pro to sync with my work exchange server but I keep getting caught in a endless loop of sync. When I view the logs I keep seeing "Exception: cannot get IMEI number". Has anyone else had this problem with Touchdown Pro on their g tablet? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide me on this one.

This exact same thing is happening to me, wow. Just Googled it and you showed up.
Looking for a fix... the app looks like it'd be so sick for the G-Tab...

So since this is a WIFI only tablet with no radio it seems to me the device simply cannot have an IMEI.
So maybe we could spoof it somehow? I'm looking for an app.
It seems really weird to me that Touchdown needs an IMEI to sync. Especially when the native Exchange support for Android works fine on this tablet. Ugh.

Yeah I am lost on this one. Touchdown Pro says it will work on ALL android tablets so I have to think there is a work around here.

Well especially since they went out of their way to make a "tablet mode"... grrr. So frustrated, I really want it to work.
Either app-side or spoofing IMEI.

I emailed support, but I suspect it wont get fixed till the next release. I would be interested in a work around. I do have the stock email working fine but touchdown wont work.
I need my subfolders....
Plus it looks great in tablet mode.

Do we even know for sure if the g tablet has an IMEI number? If so, where do we find out what it is?

Afaik a device has no use for an IMEI without a cellular radio.

Then the question becomes, is there a way to turn off or disable the part of Touchdown Pro that looks for the IMEI? A few people have said that they have been able to get Touchdown Pro working but yet no one is saying how they have been able to do so.

And clearly this is a hurdle they would have had to get past... grr. Stupid devs for implementing this "feature."

I have been chatting with tech support, they want a log file after the connect fails but I am unsure where to find that in Touchdown. Any ideas where to look?

RichTJ99 said:
I have been chatting with tech support, they want a log file after the connect fails but I am unsure where to find that in Touchdown. Any ideas where to look?
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Menu -> Advanced -> Diagnostics and hit "log next action" checkbox at the bottom (or similar)

From support:
Hi Richard,
I was able to look into this today for you and found that the Wifi only devices do not connect for the very reason you suggested, there is no IMEI number. Our developer will be in sometime in the next week or so. We will be conferring with him about this but in the meantime, you are correct. There is no way for us to connect on a Wifi only tablet at this time. Would you mind checking in with us now and then to check the progress?
Regards,
Kerri

I love it.... their developer "will be in within the next week or so". So I am guessing it will be at least a month until we have a fix for this from Touchdown Pro. I guess we are back to option #2 figure out a way to spoof or bypass the line of code that looks for the IMEI number. By chance would anyone have any suggestions on how to do this?
As a side note, I guess it is safe to assume that all of the folks claiming to have Touchdown Pro working on their G Tablet are just full of shi.....

scarter68 said:
I love it.... their developer "will be in within the next week or so". So I am guessing it will be at least a month until we have a fix for this from Touchdown Pro. I guess we are back to option #2 figure out a way to spoof or bypass the line of code that looks for the IMEI number. By chance would anyone have any suggestions on how to do this?
As a side note, I guess it is safe to assume that all of the folks claiming to have Touchdown Pro working on their G Tablet are just full of shi.....
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Or have run something that pushed a 'fake IMEI' to one of their sqlite DBs... so would be nice if we could figure out which and format of a valid IMEI...
EDIT: turns out the IMSI is in DB... the IMEI is read via RIL from Hardware... thus not something that can be changed in a typical way...

They asked me to email them in the beginning of the week for an update. I think they are concerned about it not working. Wifi only tablets are not going away & its in their best interest to make it work.

Well, it looks like we should start looking at another solution. I guess if we dont have a 3G tablet, it wont work.
Hi Richard,
I talked to the developer and this issue is not on our roadmap in the near future. They may be looking into it sometime in the next quarter, but at this point, it is not something they are actively working on. I’m very sorry.

RichTJ99 said:
Well, it looks like we should start looking at another solution. I guess if we dont have a 3G tablet, it wont work.
Hi Richard,
I talked to the developer and this issue is not on our roadmap in the near future. They may be looking into it sometime in the next quarter, but at this point, it is not something they are actively working on. I’m very sorry.
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We were planning on purchasing 100+ licenses for our sales group's wifi-only tablets. I'll be sure to let them know they lost a large order...

I just emailed the following to NitroDesk support:
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Dear Support,
It is my understanding that your product does not support WiFi-only Android tablets. I am a member of XDA Developers, a large community of mobile device developers. I read a recent posting on the XDA forum where a member of your support team stated that adding support for WiFi-only tablets is “not on the roadmap” and will not be supported in the near future.
This is a huge mistake on your part.
As the Vice President and Information Technology Manager of a large community Bank, I am responsible for the procurement and implementation of all technology. We recently deployed over 100 WiFi-only Android tablets to our Board of Directors, sales force, and lending group. I have always been a fan of TouchDown, but your apparent disregard of an obvious flaw in your software has left me with no choice but to abandon your product. I was planning on purchasing 100+ licenses of TouchDown for our tablets, but since your product is completely broken I will instead purchase 100+ copies of DataViz’s RoadSync application. RoadSync not only works on WiFi-only tablets, but is also half the price of TouchDown.
I wish your company the best of luck as you lose yet another large customer of your product due to your misguided management and development teams.
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I got a fast response back from NitroDesk support. Richard, maybe you can contact Goutham and let him know who gave you the inaccurate information???
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That is not true anymore, things have changed perhaps since that posting, our latest beta is now designed to work even without an IMEI number (lack of which was basically the issue with Wifi only devices).
While it may take a while for us to push that to the market, it is definitely something we are not walking away from.
the beta is available here : http://groups.google.com/group/nitrodesk/web/installing-the-latest-beta
While I am not sure I may not be able to get you to try touchdown over RoadSync, i do appreciate you making the effort of checking back with us.
We are working on a lot of new exciting MDM/security/policy related work at this time, that the ETA for this hitting the market itself may be a couple months.
Thanks and regards
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Goutham Sukumar
NitroDesk Inc
PS: Mind pointing me to that post ?
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