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Charging fault?

For a few days my phone hasn't been charging, and at first I thought it was a problem with the battery, but having bought a new one I've realised that when I tilted the charger to the left it would charge, but when it's just left it wouldn't, so I guess a bit of a miss-alignment.
Anyone got any ideas how I can fix this problem?
Cheers, nathaniel

try another cable and make sure it's the one that came with the phone. you should have a usb one and a ac adapter. if both are like that then you need to warranty it out.

Yeah, Ive tried it with the USB cable and the charger, I got the same result. Is there no quick fix, I'm going abroad in 9 days and quite need my phone...

There are a few discussions on bad USB connectors in these forums -- searching might provide some things to try.
From what I can remember, it's possible the pins in the connector (on the phone side) might be bent out of place -- you might want to inspect them with a magnifying glass and try to carefully bend them back if any seem out of place.
It's also possible that the connector itself is broken -- in which case you're looking at a service call.

this seems like the problem i faced. i was also facing the same problem and i read the forums here and found it as a usb port issue. so i slightly bent the usb port so that the contacts are aligned and then it started charging

Hey I would also recommend trying a new a new charger again because I have had my share of faulty chargers. Last time I had a problem charging was with a brand new cable that did not work right at the box from At&T and thought it was my battery until i tried another charger that worked. I would suggest trying the charger that is not working on another phone and see if its actually the charger or if it is your phone that is not working.

burtcom said:
There are a few discussions on bad USB connectors in these forums -- searching might provide some things to try.
From what I can remember, it's possible the pins in the connector (on the phone side) might be bent out of place -- you might want to inspect them with a magnifying glass and try to carefully bend them back if any seem out of place.
It's also possible that the connector itself is broken -- in which case you're looking at a service call.
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I think it is to do with the pins in the connector.
I had a search but I'm not very good on forums and I can't find anything of any use. Does anyone have a link?

Just look at the last few pages of topics, you should find something... there are threads about broken USB at least once a week.
One common conclusion is to avoid using USB cables other than the supplied one as their
plugs are a little thicker and tend to deform the phone's plug over time (I admit I always use others though, and as a result do sometimes need to wiggle the cable a tad and not move anything anymore once the connection is established... ).
I once dismounted my Hermes and tightened the plug back a bit, it helped, I've never done it with my Kaiser yet though. If you're not used to dismantling and fixing devices I'd recommend returning it for repair indeed.

I had a the opposite happen, it would charge but no data connection with my pc. If you look at your extUSB port on your phone, see if the black plastic tab is cracked (which was my case) or if the pins are shifted. whatever the issue, its obviously hardware related, take it to an At&t service center tell them whats wrong and if your in warranty they'll change it on the spot.
gonzo8898 said:
Hey I would also recommend trying a new a new charger again because I have had my share of faulty chargers. Last time I had a problem charging was with a brand new cable that did not work right at the box from At&T and thought it was my battery until i tried another charger that worked. I would suggest trying the charger that is not working on another phone and see if its actually the charger or if it is your phone that is not working.
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He got the same result using his USB cable so that would rule out the charger.

fone_fanatic said:
I had a the opposite happen, it would charge but no data connection with my pc. If you look at your extUSB port on your phone, see if the black plastic tab is cracked (which was my case) or if the pins are shifted. whatever the issue, its obviously hardware related, take it to an At&t service center tell them whats wrong and if your in warranty they'll change it on the spot.
He got the same result using his USB cable so that would rule out the charger.
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Im in England, took it to the T-Mobile shop, the service was rubish and without even looking at it they send I should send it off which would take 2 weeks. There is a crack in the black plastic tab

Kaiser broken usb port

Hi, I've broken the usb port on my Kaiser, making it impossible to sync or charge. Can this be repaired?

How broken is it?
Is it just loose or do you think something else is wrong (e.g. bent pins, etc.)?
I would take it appart and take a look if I were you.
Maybe its the USB Cable....did you try another USB Cable?

I tried another 2 cables, as well as the AC adapter charger - it's definitely the Kaiser. It's to do with the pins. To elaborate (I was hoping not to, but....) I was in bed, lights out, and I wanted to reset the Kaiser, so I was trying to insert the stylus into the little hole by touch (no funny business, honest) and I'm sure I pressed it into the usb port a few times by mistake. So at the very least I've bent or broken the pins.
Well, I've rung a repair facility taht does HTC products, and the person on the line said that if it was just the connector, I'll be up for AUD $110 (I live in Australia). But if it's the main board, then I will be up for AUD $590!!! If it's the latter, I may as well by a new one! I'll have to send it in to find out.

Mine had broken pins...hTC told me that the usb connecter is part of the motherboard and that the board would have to be replaced for $389 (US). I ordered a new one from AT&T (cheaper + rebate!).
Now have a back up that I can use for parts, or charge the battery in the new one and put the battery in the broken one! I can play with ROMs and radios on the old one
AND, I now make darn sure the stylus goes into the reset port rather that the mini USB port.

dragonlibrarian said:
Hi, I've broken the usb port on my Kaiser, making it impossible to sync or charge. Can this be repaired?
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im having tha t same problem
any one know where to get this fixed if your not using the oirignal rom for cheap price?

bluetooth synch and external battery charger
I have the same issue here, my htc felt down and since then it's very tricky to synch via usb and sometimes tricky to charge up the battery.
So I'am now using the bluetooth connection to synchronize with my PC . I also bought before that an external battery charger for the tytnII on ebay from ecell for around 4 euros . I also bought a second set of battery for around 20 euros.
the tricky part is to succeed in seting up the bluetooth connection the first time , but I don't know I eventually manage to do it after several tries .
But of course now I won't risk any rom update or whatsoever.

Kastro1784 said:
im having tha t same problem
any one know where to get this fixed if your not using the oirignal rom for cheap price?
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http://www.ppctechs.com/AT-T-Tilt_974/repairs/Full-Service-Repairs.htm

https://www.blackberry8100parts.com...B-NEW-HTC-TyTN-II-KAISER-P4550-_p_35-530.html
8 bucks with an instructional video

Broken Charging Block on My Kaiser

I was unplugging my usb cable after flashing my phone and it pulled the pins and little charging thing out of my kaiser, now its just a hole with nothing inside, is this expensive to mend? basically it wont charge with charger or computer as there is nothing inside!!!!!!!!!! HELP!

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is this expensive to mend?
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Depends who you get to do the work (or if you buy the part and do the work yourself). If you review the Kaiser Service Manual (avail through the Kaiser wiki here on xda-dev), it provides part no details etc and shows you pics of what you're in for. All is not lost although it does make me wonder how pulling the plug *out* caused this problem - what is there to snag
Oh and most people will refer to that as the USB connector (whereas the charging block is commonly the thing you plug into the mains socket).

Please search XDA, this has been address in one way or another many, many times. Search for broken USB port. You can buy the the porst and try the impossible micro-soldering repair, or send it off and have it fixed. One service a lot of poeple use is http://www.ppctechs.com/ I think they charge $79 to repalce it.
If you want to see what is involved in doing it yourself; and why I will never try, look at post 4 here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/smart...hf-mini-usb-replacement-project/#entry1001118
I busted my plug and did not have enough to get it fixed, and there is not way I was going to try and fix it myself. I got a cradle with a battery charger from ebay; it even included an extra battery. I just leave one battery charging and swicth them when they die. It sucks becasue I have to take my back cover off every day; but it was only like $10.

Recharging Options

How are you guys recharging your HD2's? I've been relying on the USB connector at the bottom of the phone, but my concern is that after 'x' number of connects/disconnects that the socket will wear out as it started doing with my Kaiser.
Do you guys know of any pin-based adapter or battery hatch modification with external contacts that would enable us to lay the phone on a stand or platform without having to use the internal USB port on the phone which will eventually wear out? The 'powermat' would be great, but it's not available for the HD2. Does the new HTC car mount recharge the phone too, or is it just a bracket?
I'm thinking of something along the lines of how bluetooth headsets recharge, where the pins are external. It just worries me that the micro USB connector will eventually fail, which on a $700+ phone is not an attractive option.
Your thoughts?

The connector will not fail. At least unless you force/damage it yourself. It has been adopted as a connection/charge connector on ALL new phones now, of any brand, so you can bet they tested it thoroughly before.
If it fails.. well that's what the warranty's there for.
To answer the original question, I charge using USB, and also an external charger for my spares.

kilrah said:
The connector will not fail.
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I understand your point, but to my way of thinking it's still a physical connector made of metal and plastic. It will fail eventually, trust me. These connectors are tested to withstand a reasonable number of connect/disconnect cycles for the average user. But cell phones tend to get used more, and this phone among other cell phones because of the cpu and screen will need to be recharged even more so.
Also, I'm not talking about the point of failure, but the limit of usability. The connector on my Kaiser got to the point where the cable wouldn't stay lodged in the housing and would drop out of its own weight. Although it still worked, it made for awkward handling while in the car trying to use a coiled charging cable that would drop out on its own.
So what I was looking for was a replacement battery hatch which would connect with the internal contacts, and a corresponding mount/dock of some sort so that it would minimize the physical stress of multiple connections and disconnections.

BillTheCat said:
How are you guys recharging your HD2's? I've been relying on the USB connector at the bottom of the phone, but my concern is that after 'x' number of connects/disconnects that the socket will wear out as it started doing with my Kaiser.
Do you guys know of any pin-based adapter or battery hatch modification with external contacts that would enable us to lay the phone on a stand or platform without having to use the internal USB port on the phone which will eventually wear out? The 'powermat' would be great, but it's not available for the HD2. Does the new HTC car mount recharge the phone too, or is it just a bracket?
I'm thinking of something along the lines of how bluetooth headsets recharge, where the pins are external. It just worries me that the micro USB connector will eventually fail, which on a $700+ phone is not an attractive option.
Your thoughts?
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I just got the car mount today. It Does recharge the phone - there's a mini usb plug built into the bracket, and a lead plugs into the base of the bracket, and then into your 12v socket. A nice touch, the lead is actually long enough to be able to route it nicely.

ebeam said:
I just got the car mount today. It Does recharge the phone - there's a mini usb plug built into the bracket, and a lead plugs into the base of the bracket, and then into your 12v socket. A nice touch, the lead is actually long enough to be able to route it nicely.
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Thanks, but what I was really after is a solution that does NOT involve the USB port on the phone.

I've seen battery chargers on Ebay. That's probably the only sensible solution if you're really that worried about the USB connector...
I think I remember reading something about some sort of wireless recharging pad that you can put phones and mp3 players on that would recharge them without any cables but I've got no idea if it would work on the HD2 or if they are even on sale yet.

There was old HTC CU S400 car Update Kit. It has direct conection to the battery throug back cover http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/#entrycontent. New mount have MicroUSB connection http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=53E28901-63DD-4E93-99F6-BF3D0B88BD04

lachutm said:
There was old HTC CU S400 car Update Kit. It has direct conection to the battery throug back cover http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/#entrycontent. New mount have MicroUSB connection http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=53E28901-63DD-4E93-99F6-BF3D0B88BD04
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Yes, the former is along the lines of what I had in mind. Just surprised that no aftermarket solutions have been developed for the phone to make it easier to charge without wearing out that micro-usb connector.

As the mini USB port is a standard size, (not just used by HTC) if you should ever 'break it', most phone repair shops will be able to replace it quite easily.
A lot less hassle than opening up your phone to plug things in the back.

[Q] Cheap replacement USB cable?

Hi guys, I accidentally left my charger and USB cable at a friend's house 700 miles away during a visit. She sent it back to me, but it's been a bit over two weeks and I'm tired of being Nookless, especially with all of the new stuff developing (cyanogen on the way? AWWW YEAH!!).
Neither of the two BN stores near my house have replacement charger/cables in stock and it appears that the BN website does not either (not even a price listed, just a pic/description).
What is the cheapest way for me to get some power in this thing? I wouldn't mind charging solely through USB. Is the stock NookColor USB cable any different than a normal micro-usb cable? Can I just order a normal $2 cable from amazon and expect it to charge?

The cable that comes with the NookColor differs from a standard micro usb in a couple of important ways: It has extra pins to deliver a higher charge. OK, I guess by "a couple" I meant "one that I am aware of." Alright, maybe one more: The charger itself is rated at .5A, which is higher than the standard plug for usb chargers.
You might be able to trickle charge from a standard usb. I was able to get some power, but not much.
Here's one more thing to do:
Ask the manager at B&N if she has any extra chargers and cables in the back. Here's why I say this: I had to return my cable yesterday because it wasn't making proper contact with the pins and thus was not properly charging. The manager told me that he has a heap of NookColor plugs and cables in a box because when they send units back to wherever they send them for repair or reconditioning, they are instructed to send only the Nook, and not the cables.
It's worth a try.
Good luck.

It does charge very slowly when connected to the PC...It will charge overnight if not in use..

I have some Nokia cables (from my mobile) with Micro-USB, they are loading the Nook nearly as fast as the original one. Very handy for charging in the car.

I have been charging my nook with only a standard cable since day one. My nook came with a bad cable and at the time was one of the last nooks in my area. I have been calling B&N almost weekly for over a month and they keep saying they will send me a cable but I have not received it yet. I have had no problems charging my Nook overnight. I even emptied the battery once and it still charged fully over night.

A regular microUSB cable will eventually charge the NC, if it's sleeping. No 3-hour quick-charging, though.

Does the slow charging really have to do with the cable?
On high draw devices (e.g. iPhone or Palm Pre) the charger shorts the data pins to signal the capacity for higher current draw. The cable has nothing to do with it.
I have noticed the Nook plug is longer than a standard micro USB plug, but that only means you can't use the Nook cable on another device's micro USB port.

Anybody know the potential problems trying to root with a non-standard Cable?

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I have noticed the Nook plug is longer than a standard micro USB plug, but that only means you can't use the Nook cable on another device's micro USB port.
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Is this confirmed to be true? If so, what allows a non-Nook USB cable to be used with the Nook?
I'm sure the cable itself is different, either by using the data lines as additional power lines for higher current capacity, or perhaps by adding some resistors to pull the data lines to certain voltages so that the Nook can identify when the "right" cable is connected, so that fast-charging can be enabled. I just can't quite grasp the idea that the cable is not physically compatible with other micro-USB devices.

I am able to use the original nook usb cable, my samsung moment usb cable, and others for data purposes, no issues

I have two other devices that also use M-USB for data transfer, and they work just fine.
I picked up a few of these a while back and they work as well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=micro_usb_cable-_-12-119-265-_-Product

It seems that you can call B&N support for a new one if you had issues with your original. Not the OP's problem, but Some have had the issue.
Here is a thread about it:
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...t-to-slide-charger-into-Nook-Color/m-p/809920

nootered said:
I have two other devices that also use M-USB for data transfer, and they work just fine.
I picked up a few of these a while back and they work as well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=micro_usb_cable-_-12-119-265-_-Product
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So the idea is that these could be used only for data and trickle-charging? Even if it's connecting the Nook to its official power-thingy (is there a name for those?)

markiejones said:
So the idea is that these could be used only for data and trickle-charging? Even if it's connecting the Nook to its official power-thingy (is there a name for those?)
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I am just using it for data transfer and charging with the stock wall unit. As far s using these cables or other USB devices that using the MicroUSB interface would require some type of software driver (USB Host) in order to make that work. As far as I know at least.

manchucka said:
Alright, maybe one more: The charger itself is rated at .5A, which is higher than the standard plug for usb chargers.
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Actually... .5A is the minimum for all plain jane USB ports.
If I remember right, when I flipped the charger over when I first got the NC, it is rated at 1.9A, which would make sense considering the size of the battery we are charging and at the speed we are charging it at. Hell, my Epic uses a 1A charger and it is only 1500mAh battery vs the NC's 4000 mAh.

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It seems that you can call B&N support for a new one if you had issues with your original. Not the OP's problem, but Some have had the issue.
Here is a thread about it:
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Wow thanks for that link. From the day I got my Nook I couldn't use the included USB cable to move data, but it would charge like a charm. Now I'm getting a replacement.
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danbutter said:
It seems that you can call B&N support for a new one if you had issues with your original. Not the OP's problem, but Some have had the issue.
Here is a thread about it:
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...t-to-slide-charger-into-Nook-Color/m-p/809920
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True but.... I have been calling for well over a month and first they could not ship me one because I bought it at Best Buy and they did not have the warranty info yet from Best Buy. I finally got past that and since the week after Christmas they have been shipping me one each time I call. I have yet to receive one. I am going on 2 months now trying to get the cable shipped to me.

TainT said:
Anybody know the potential problems trying to root with a non-standard Cable?
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I don't think there are any.. I do all my ADB work using a "non-standard cable". The usb cable that came with my nook wont let ADB work right. When I type ADB devices with my factory cable I get the serial number but instead of device it shows suspended or something like that.

http://www.rdi.us/USBCC.pdf
Here is a link for a Hi - Power USB Car Charger. It's 2100mA and can run and charge an Android Tablet or iPad at the same time. Also the microUSB cable they offer, shows "Charging ( AC) ” When plugged into my Captivate. Most just showed "Charging ( USB) ".
Sent from my Samsung Captivate with Perception 10.3, Firebird2 v0.8 #77 Kernel, Firmware 2.2.1, Modem T959TLJL3 using XDA App

.5A is nothing. Most phone chargers now are rated at 1A with ones for tablets going above 2 as someone else mentioned. Most BT headset chargers are rated at .2-.5A in comparison. Some GPS units have charges rated over 1.5A. My Dash unit had a 2A.
And if I'm not mistaken, if you're connected to a computer you will only get a tricklish charge as it's limited to .2 or .25A (I believe).
In regards to actual cables, any microUSB cable will work. I've used stock ones from Samsung and Palm phones as well as cheap 50 cent ones from Meritline. And if the Nook one is actually longer? Why wouldn' it work in something else? The cable will just stick out further.
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The cable that comes with the NookColor differs from a standard micro usb in a couple of important ways: It has extra pins to deliver a higher charge. OK, I guess by "a couple" I meant "one that I am aware of." Alright, maybe one more: The charger itself is rated at .5A, which is higher than the standard plug for usb chargers.
You might be able to trickle charge from a standard usb. I was able to get some power, but not much.
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