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[Q]What Do You Want In A ROM?

I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)

1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.

1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip

basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)

Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had

gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time

achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.

Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.

Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.

I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.

Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.

Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO

I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.

Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.

I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.

I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone

As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.

basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)

I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!

You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.

Any ROM with new manila v3 has many BUG Right??

What happen?

From my experience Dutty 2.1 Extreme is the best! You can fix all the bugs searching latest Dutty ROM thread.

No, I´m using Dutties Xtreme ROM V2.1 and there´s no bug - at least that cannot be solved. Give it a try, it´s much better than the old manila.
aipkt said:
What happen?
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aipkt said:
What happen?
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I don't know what happends the last three, four weeks, but not the ROMS are so bad or have so many bugs, but some people here do so!
I use Davideuck_V-2_HP and therefore Dutty's HD V2.1 XTREM. There are some few things which are not perfect, but all standard(!) functions are working, the roms are stable and I will say mostly bug-free. Much better then the stock ROMs.
So, what happends?

Elim said:
I don't know what happends the last three, four weeks, but not the ROMS are so bad or have so many bugs, but some people here do so!
I use Davideuck_V-2_HP and therefore Dutty's HD V2.1 XTREM. There are some few things which are not perfect, but all standard(!) functions are working, the roms are stable and I will say mostly bug-free. Much better then the stock ROMs.
So, what happends?
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I'm still looking for a "bug-free" ROM with the new manila.
Davideuck_V-2 is a good ROM, but not perfect. here are some very annoying bugs :
1. Youtube app lags
2. Inside 'People Tab', in case you have a person with 2 numbers (mobile + work), try tapping the 'Work' button and you'll find out that it will call to the
mobile instead.
3. You can send files via Bluetooth, but you can't receive.
4. Can't view attachments in SMS. if someone send you a picture in SMS/MMS you can see the attachment icon but you can't view it.
If you know a ROM with the new manila without these bugs i will flash it right now.

maybe sound just silly but have you enable beam GoldCoin?i 'm running on david's v2 ans i can send and receive bt files.

alexis_p3300 said:
maybe sound just silly but have you enable beam GoldCoin?i 'm running on david's v2 ans i can send and receive bt files.
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The beam option was unchecked. Thank you.

GoldCoin said:
I'm still looking for a "bug-free" ROM with the new manila.
Davideuck_V-2 is a good ROM, but not perfect. here are some very annoying bugs :
1. Youtube app lags
2. Inside 'People Tab', in case you have a person with 2 numbers (mobile + work), try tapping the 'Work' button and you'll find out that it will call to the
mobile instead.
3. You can send files via Bluetooth, but you can't receive.
4. Can't view attachments in SMS. if someone send you a picture in SMS/MMS you can see the attachment icon but you can't view it.
If you know a ROM with the new manila without these bugs i will flash it right now.
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There are 2 things you are talking about. You need be very clear on what you want.
Lately there are 2 knids of ROMs that are being cooked.
One With Topaz
One With Rohdium.
If you just need a ROM with the new Manila... go for the Topaz ROM.
Based on my experience... the David's V2 ROM with Topaz is almost bug free... except for the YouTube lag. Only in David's Tpoaz ROM I have seen the FaceBook integration working perfectly. Not in Dutty's...
Dutty's 2.1 is also pertty good except the FB integratio does not work.
The Bugs you have pointed out with the people tab calling only one number.. is an issue with Rohdium ROM not the Topaz one.
According to me.. The Rohdium ROM is the one with most of the BUGs... not the Topaz (David's is 99% perfect).

still all beta stuff anyway so hey, that's what we have

VizagDude said:
There are 2 things you are talking about. You need be very clear on what you want.
Lately there are 2 knids of ROMs that are being cooked.
One With Topaz
One With Rohdium.
If you just need a ROM with the new Manila... go for the Topaz ROM.
Based on my experience... the David's V2 ROM with Topaz is almost bug free... except for the YouTube lag. Only in David's Tpoaz ROM I have seen the FaceBook integration working perfectly. Not in Dutty's...
Dutty's 2.1 is also pertty good except the FB integratio does not work.
The Bugs you have pointed out with the people tab calling only one number.. is an issue with Rohdium ROM not the Topaz one.
According to me.. The Rohdium ROM is the one with most of the BUGs... not the Topaz (David's is 99% perfect).
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Thanks for sharing this information with me. 'Davideuck's Rohdium' is the first
ROM i have ever flashed since i got my HD, and in fact this is the only cooked ROM i've used so far.
About FB integration - i don't really need this. Here are few "must" features
for me on a ROM :
No mp4/youtube playback problems - watching videos on my blackstone is one of the reasons i bought it.
ICR - the ability to record calls with no problems. worked great on Rohdium.
New manila V3 - i just love the TF3d.
GPS - using it alot and can't afford problems with this feature.
New Start Menu - just like in Rohdium.
Also i need basic phone features to work well. SMS, MMS, No white images
when a caller doesn't have an image (some says Topaz has this problem) and
so on..

New Manila
I'm still looking for a "bug-free" ROM with the new manila.
But I can't get it. New Manila have so much change,I like it!

GoldCoin said:
Thanks for sharing this information with me. 'Davideuck's Rohdium' is the first
ROM i have ever flashed since i got my HD, and in fact this is the only cooked ROM i've used so far.
About FB integration - i don't really need this. Here are few "must" features
for me on a ROM :
No mp4/youtube playback problems - watching videos on my blackstone is one of the reasons i bought it.
ICR - the ability to record calls with no problems. worked great on Rohdium.
New manila V3 - i just love the TF3d.
GPS - using it alot and can't afford problems with this feature.
New Start Menu - just like in Rohdium.
Also i need basic phone features to work well. SMS, MMS, No white images
when a caller doesn't have an image (some says Topaz has this problem) and
so on..
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If Rohdium is a must for you... (The New Start menu is only possible with Rohdium. You have to wait until some one figures out how to have these things working. I am sure Davide will fix the YouTube lag.)
Dutty's latest ROM (V2.1) is a Topaz built, No new start menu. If not everything elase works perfect.

how do you use FB intergration?please tell me

VizagDude said:
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Based on my experience... the David's V2 ROM with Topaz is almost bug free... except for the YouTube lag.
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Fixed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3473083&postcount=830

facebook can be added to rhodium, im still looking into it and im probably bout 80% through sorting it out, to add it use m9editor find settings.xml file from the _manilla files in both topaz and rhodium and compare the differences' youll notice a section completely missing from rhodium to do with people updates, add missing lines to rhodium settings.xml and upload the changed file,(there is also a few other diffrences im looking into)
This doesnt get it 100% working but i now have the facebook options and still testing other files that may be different or missing, i just run out of time last night
The manilla settings file is 26948339_manila, if anyones intrested ill upload my changes for them
there is also some files missing/different that need to be sorted through

if you know so much about it please tell me how you do this integration?

Its not that i know so much about it, i just spent time examining the files available to me, and worked it out anyone is capable of doing it, all the information is there,
Ive had this phone for a bit more then a month and started using the kitchens about a week ago, so as i said its not really about me knowing so much, just a matter of taking the time to work it out,
depending on what source your getting the files from you will have different experience, Heres wat i know.
26948339_manila (i think in m9editor this shows as manila.xml not settings.xml)
100% rhodium oem package (what i was working with) is missing quite a few lines of code which i metioned in my above post, you need to add those into the file and also make sure they havent been disabled.
but i had a look in some of the released roms n it seems atleast on davide's v2 rom the the info is in the file, it has just been disabled look for the <!-- at the beggining of the line remove it and also the closing --> then the line is no longer disabled
Files
Some files are missing from the oem package and also from some of the chefs roms but you can get them from the topaz oems floating around.
All this is from memory i finish work in 45 minutes then back to work on the phone so if i get time ill up the files for you and all you have to do is copy them into your windows folder

[ROM] [WWE] Typako v1.0 [WM6.1] [Lite] [no-panel] [no-manila]

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*** UPDATE 13 APR Ultralite Version uploaded ***
*** ATTENTION THE ULTRALITE ROM IS UNTESTED ***
Apologies, I really don't have spare time to flash and test this ROM. Normally, it should work fine, because I just removed some packages and files.
For the same reason (sort of time) I cannot provide any CABs. Everything you might need is here in XDA. Just search for it.
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This is a simple, lite, WM6.1, build 21051 ROM, no manila, no panels, with few extra apps that has been used for long by me.
I created this ROM for my personal use, but I have now decided to share it for people having the same taste as mine.
I am not a chef and I don’t have much spare time, so I might not be in position to give support, answer questions, make changes, new releases etc. Normally it wouldn’t be necessary. If you like it, most probably you’ll keep it for long. If you don’t, I can’t do anything for you.
My recipe:
Removed
Panels
Opera
Google earth
Trial games
Handagoo
Sample videos
SE Comm-manager
Added
HTC Comm-manager
HTC FM-Radio (**)
HTC Voice Rec (**)
HTC Enlarge Start Menu
HTC MP3trim (**)
HTC volume control (**)
HTC Youtube app (**)
HTC SMS threaded mode on-off (**)
HTC GPS tool (**)
SD User Customization
Advance Configuration Tool 3.3 (**)
Htorch (**)
PIM Backup (**)
No Data (**)
Pocket RAR (**)
Softreset
Synchrotime (**)
FDC Taskmanager (**)
Total Commander (**)
UCWEB6-63 (**)
R3A camera with autoflash
Tweaks for speed and stability
Packages marked with (**) are removed from Ultra-lite version along with pics, most ringtones and some themes.
Big thanks to all people who created all these crazy tools allowing us to build our own ROMs.
Special thanks to Jerpelea for providing the kitchen and sharing all his knowledge.
Download links
Normal Version 1.0 : http://rapidshare.com/files/317757034/Typako_21051_r3a_v1.0_nopanel_WWE_generic.rar
Ultralite Version 0.1 : http://rapidshare.com/files/375531191/Typako_WWE_Generic_21051_r3a_ultrlite_v0.1.rar
If you like my work, donate to XDA-Developers.

Downloading this now, will test this one next time I feel like a re-flash
Seems like quite the ultimate non-manila build with all one might need, will surely enjoy this one
Thanks for your work!
/Maddude

jack's v3.3
did u tried the jack's rom v3.3? is this better? i'm using the jack's rom now with the spb, whats the difference between? witch has the better performance?
thank u

is this rom also include office 2010?
thank you Typako, i'll keep an eye of your rom.

I want some lite and durable battery life, may be this ROM helpful.
Thank You.

maikonzinho said:
did u tried the jack's rom v3.3? is this better? i'm using the jack's rom now with the spb, whats the difference between? witch has the better performance?
thank u
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I had tried jack's 3.3 myself and it's excelent rom. I just wanted newer WM build and different mix of apps. I am not sure which one is performing better.

sLumPia said:
is this rom also include office 2010?
thank you Typako, i'll keep an eye of your rom.
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No sorry. Just the stock office that comes with WM-21051. Version 6.1 or so.

i'm using your rom right now (flash it last night)
it's not as lite as i thought, but it's okay, i'll use many of the pre-install application anyway.
i'm still not encounter any error with this rom yet
the performance is good, not as fast as norti nX1i 1.04 (my previous rom)
btw, how can you determine the page pool size of your rom? because i see that you use 12MB (half the nX1i's)
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i found a problem with hTorch.
As you know there 4 option on hTorch, LED on, LED on (very bright), LCD off, quit. option 3 very bright LED is not working.

sLumPia said:
i'm using your rom right now (flash it last night)
it's not as lite as i thought, but it's okay, i'll use many of the pre-install application anyway.
i'm still not encounter any error with this rom yet
the performance is good, not as fast as norti nX1i 1.04 (my previous rom)
btw, how can you determine the page pool size of your rom? because i see that you use 12MB (half the nX1i's)
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i found a problem with hTorch.
As you know there 4 option on hTorch, LED on, LED on (very bright), LCD off, quit. option 3 very bright LED is not working.
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Thanks for the feedback.
After some experiments I decided to set the PP size to 12 as a decent compromise between speed and available RAM.
You may change it with the "PagePoolChanger.exe" tool from this site, BEFORE flashing.
I know the htorch issue but I was thinking it's a sort of h/w incompatibility. It was the same with a cabed version I had tried. Have you ever seen this bright led working normally on xperia? If yes I will try updating this package and produce a new ROM next week.

Typako said:
Thanks for the feedback.
After some experiments I decided to set the PP size to 12 as a decent compromise between speed and available RAM.
You may change it with the "PagePoolChanger.exe" tool from this site, BEFORE flashing.
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i know about the pagepoolchanger.i'm only wondering how to determine the best pagepool size
Typako said:
I know the htorch issue but I was thinking it's a sort of h/w incompatibility. It was the same with a cabed version I had tried. Have you ever seen this bright led working normally on xperia? If yes I will try updating this package and produce a new ROM next week.
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i think i've seen it working on one of the roms i've try, but maybe it's just my imagination.
if you plan to cook a new version, could you making it smaller? maybe remove some themes or sounds?
also, i think your rom drain batt faster than nXi (sorry if i always compare yours with norti's, it's one of my favourite )
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1 what do think is the best keyboard? could you cook it in your rom and remove the default one? i don't think anybody use that small little kbd
2 could you assign the X panel button to something? as you remove the panel

I personally like the small stock keyboard. I find it very useful when I write with stylus cause all symbols are accessible without changing layouts.
For finger operation, I prefer fingerkeyb 2.1. There are many customized cabs for specific layouts, skins and languages. Most probably you wouldn't like my choice.
I assign the X-Pabel button with AE Button Plus, again from cab installer.
I have made SDConfig.txt file on my SDCard and I install all my cabs after flash or hard reset. You could possibly do the same if you flash your phone frequently. No, I cannot provide my own, cause it contains personal settings and files, commercial s/w cabs and licenses etc.
I could possibly build an ultra-lite version next week. No apps, no sounds, no themes no nothing. It would be easy for me and maybe useful for some people.

that would be nice. but please provide cabs for some of the apps

Sounds really useful, that would be great of you Running your Rom now, works like a charm
Thank you!

Ultralite version uploaded
Ultralite version uploaded.
1st post updated.
Please notice that the new rom is untested - no spare time. If you test it please give feedback here.
Thanks

I'll try your new rom later.
can't flash my phone right now
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i just had SoD with your previous rom. I had that SoD after using Garmin (exit Garmin and turn off the LCD)

It can't be downloaded [email protected]@

[ROM][WWE][15.8.2010] Freedom ROM series v2 [23676 | 2016 Manila]

Why is this rom different than anyother rom.
The reason is *Freedom*.
Yes, a rom which lets you decide what you want.
*** Freedom Is Yours ***
Base OS: W6.5 - Titanium & Manila
Manila: Manila 2.5.2016_cfc
Sys : 23676
Packages: Hybrid Leo & Rhodium
Pagepool: 20 mb
Tweaks: Manila flip clock fix and Lock screen fix (The first time you lock the screen you will notice some lag, but after that every time it will be instant.)
Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8LMCIA6O
1. Hard reset after flashing
2. Align screen, install softwares, restore contacts and data (if any)
3. Soft reset
I would appreciate, if you leave a feedback. I looking forward to suggestions that could make the rom experience better.
Flash the rom on your own risk. I shall not be held responsible for any damage it may cause to your phone.
*** W6.5 & Manila 2.5 are not a supported for our device. So have some patience when operating them. ***

Changelog:
v2
Updates sys to 23676
Updated manila sense to 2_5_20161332_0_CFC
Updated HTCMessaging Client to 1_8_20181630 (Latest from 2018 Sense - Thanks Pyrorob )
Updated HTC Message to v1.10.281.0
Updates keyboard Ez Input to v2.1.20142921.00
Updated You Tube to v2.6.20161226.00
Updated Audio Booster to v2.5.20153030.01
Updated Full Screen Player to v1.8.20161429.00
Added MS office 2010
Added Adobe PDF v2.5.1.0.404840.03
other packages updated.
v1.2-23568 Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/396098588/Freedom_v1.2-23568.rar
Updates sys to 23568
Added Titanium
Fixed systimezone... error
v1.2
sys 23563
Manila_Core_2_5_20121225_0_CFC
Rhodium 2.07
Fixed setting improvement error
Fixed home button
Fixed dialer

F.A.Q
1.Rom does not have any theme?
Choose the one you like. I recommend Condor GT black. Search on the forum you will get the link
2.Rom does not have any performance drivers?
Choose the one that you feel works best for you.
I highly recommend installing one of the drivers available from here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
I suggest neo_2007_3, but the roms works well with other drivers as well.
GFX boost is also great but it also drains battery a lot faster.
3.It does not have browser apart from IE?
You choose, which browser you want to use. Opera is highly recommended, but you can also go with sky fire, bolt, etc.
4. Some useful softwares.
Add Call history tab to manila
Touch InCall tweak
BsB Tweaks
HD Tweak
Opera
Skyfire
Side2Play-Music player
Total Commander
Change screen(New version)
HTC eReader
B&N eReader
PIM Backup
Nodata
G-Alarm
SmartLock - Automatic Screen Lock
LUMOS - Complete HTC Auto-Backlight replacement
NaviComputer – Offline GPS Mapping Software
Other

Thanks to:
EpiphanyNL
Balaji (For sharing the kitchen)
koky72
All the beta testers who came forward here
entire xda-community
My Story:
Well i loved the chef who created great roms, but i always felt that, i am better off without all the crap is loaded on it.
I wished there was a way, I could just install stuff that I want. Thats when I decided, i need to built my own rom.
Journey so far has not been that good, hundreds of flashes and bugs still continue.
Some chefs were helpful, and some chefs behavior was so bad, made me feel like really, its just a damn rom you build, you are not god.
Also these chef forget, that what they are, is because of us, who follow them and praise them like addicts.
But not the entire community is bad. xda for me stands for sharing, growing and enjoying. And I wish community grows always.

Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote

Sounds like a good idea - there's always so much stuff on cooked roms I never use.
I have downloaded and will give this a go tomorrow - thansk for sharing.

cxkx said:
Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote
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This is a strip out rom.
You need to install office and other softwares by urself.
I will try to compile a list and post it here, but in the meanwhile please use search button.
I am looking to resolve the error asap, however, other things wok on the rom.
as an alternative i suggest using,
by click start--> settings...
for anything you need to change.
data services = settings--> connections -->account manager.
click on top bar then under notification window click battery icon for changing display and screen settings...

Dialer
I cant make a call
Try to dial and nothing happen
I cant figure out is it the ROM or something i did
I will see, and update.
Otherwise fast, smooth and best memory management
Thanks
I made hard reset and dialer working perfectly
I am downloading my stuff one by one to find out what cause this problem
I am so sorry, its great rom

i am using the rom on my phone and the dialer works perfectly.
i just had some issues when cookie monster was installed, the dialer just lagged.
i unistalled cookie monster and will test it.

your rom is fast and good but the home button is not working . when you daill the talk ,end call and the keypad are big
if you can make 21903 build it will be good
thanks

home button is not working? can you give more details coz i am using the rom and it is working for me.
regarding dialer being big, i tried using different dialers in my beta, but, it used to lag after call is dc. this is the best dialer i can use.
i will certainly work on other 21**, 23** versions, once i get more time.

Found the reason
Dear shah1237:
Dialer is perfect till i made contact restore, whatever the Prog (PIM, Sprite and SPB) then dialer went crazy:
-no call history
-network resetting
Please give solution that your ROM is very good and improved amazingly
Thanks
Update: the same happen even without restoring contacts, once new contact saved and dialed, the problem there
I think its due to cooked dialer.

new rom uploaded...

shah1237 said:
new rom uploaded...
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Thank you, I'll test it in weekend!

very good job thank u.i put the graphics but i dont see any change,the same as before i install it.i would see any different somewhere or no?
but it is very good job

thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.

shah1237 said:
thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.
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u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?

mgeo81 said:
u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?
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mail account? can you give more details.

shah1237 said:
mail account? can you give more details.
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its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job

mgeo81 said:
its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job
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well the list you see is ideally the most common programs on the forum.
i will continue to add more links.
but i expect users to search the xda for additional softwares.

RETIRED:[ROM][RHODIUM][US][Lite] 6.5 Foundation v1.0(Sense 2.1)(T-Mobile) 25-Jul-2010

I have decided to retire this ROM, it has served it's purpose and it is time to move on.
I'm very new at this, so don't expect anything flashy, I'm going for stability.
I'm working on a T-Mobile stable stock 6.5 foundation ROM.
The idea is to start with the stock 6.5 release and remove any apps that can be updated from the Internet. That way you always have a stable ROM with most of the standard features found in the T-Mobile 6.5 release and you get to pick and choose what structures you want to build on top of your foundation.
Due to multiple removal requests, I'm no longer hosting this ROM, however, other people are providing mirrors.
MD5 hash: b1448986dec4abf841909b4017bcb1e9
Recommended install
Hard SPL (follow instructions)
Task 29 (follow instructions)
To save time, install the T-Mobile 6.5 release, it will put the radio on and reset the splashscreen (if you like the TMo splash, some do)
Install the Foundation ROM
Changelog
v0.5 - First release
v0.51 - Minor bugfixes
v0.6 - Fixed some menu items, updated XDA_UC
v0.7 - 1% battery driver. Added some changes to XDA_UC.
v1.0RC - Fixed minor issues with XDA_UC. Registry. ROM appears stable.
v1.0 - Released - Stable
Flash at your own risk. This ROM is pre-configured for T-Mobile US phones only. Other phones may not work, and Verizon/Sprint phones absolutely will not work and you will brick your phone..​

ROM has the following removed:
Google Maps
Handango
MyPhone
Bing
Facebook
MyFaves
Visual Voicemail
Sample Music
OZ IM
Windows Live
Windows Live IM
WM Live Search Widget
WM Money Search Widget
WM Weather Search Widget
Jetcet (I never use it, but if people want it back in I'll keep it in)
Updated:
.NET CF to 3.5
Sense 2.1 - Compressed CFC
Turned off Push Internet to save memory, can be turned back on easily.
Added:
XDA_UC - I don't use it (yet), but I'm guessing some people might find it useful.
Things I left in and why:
Office 2007 - So you can upgrade to office 2010 via the marketplace.
Opera 9.5 - It's a solid browser, it works well and you can always add Mobile 5 later.
Youtube - This version seems to work well on the TP2, I'm not going to break a working app, again, can be updated to Google's latest version.
Sense 2.1 - The ROM came with this version and it performs well. I CFC'd it to improve memory, I did not notice much of a difference, but it can't hurt.

Structures
A Structure is a simple app or script to build on top of the Foundation ROM. Examples of structures would be an script to re-order the menu, or something to update a core component. They are completely optional and should be easy to customize.
I've attached a simple script to organize the start menu a little better. Rename it to menus.mscr and run it on the phone. Like I said, it's very simple, feel free to open it in notepad and make changes to your liking.
The second script is nobackup.mscr, it will remove the T-Mobile backup app from the startup and menus.

Much Success
May you be very successful in this. I just got into flashing a couple of days ago and its the coolest thing. I have the HD2 my wife likes what I am doing a wants to have some fun as well which is why I am in this section. I will check to see what progress your able to make.

I would have liked to have Telenav cooked in because I can never get it to work on custom ROMs so I have just settled for TomTom... But you may also want to remove the IM apps because a lot of people including myself just use Palringo (much like ebuddy if you are familiar with it)... Good luck with this, I was sad to see the Timor series discontinued as I am a T-Mobile USA customer too, but maybe this can be better.

Showtime7 said:
I would have liked to have Telenav cooked in because I can never get it to work on custom ROMs so I have just settled for TomTom... But you may also want to remove the IM apps because a lot of people including myself just use Palringo (much like ebuddy if you are familiar with it)... Good luck with this, I was sad to see the Timor series discontinued as I am a T-Mobile USA customer too, but maybe this can be better.
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I didn't think Telenav would be an issue, I'll put it back in. Hopefully I'll have something to show soon.

Version 0.5 is up. Let me know if you like it.
The usual warnings apply to anyone flashing, flash at your own risk, this is a beta release.
I fixed some problems and put up version 0.51.

Future releases
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough)
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.

Joe USer said:
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough, I'll get back to
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.
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I think you should keep it simple and try not to add custom gfx/icons. Leave that up to other chefs like Sergio and NRG.
I also think you should leave in youtube, MS Voice Command and the email setup wizard. Can you toss in the latest version of Office and Palringo?
You should also stick to Sense 2.1 for obvious reasons. (RAM, stability)

Joe USer said:
Future releases:
Does anyone want any of the following removed?
Jblend
T-Mobile Mobile Backup
T-Mobile email setup wizard
Youtube (can always download from Google)
Office 2007
MS Voice command
Does anyone want the following added?
New icons (Cook some in, or let you make your own set)
better folder layout (Again, do I do this in ROM, or would you rather do it yourself)
sense 2.5 (might be too tough)
Are there any additional apps that should be in the ROM.
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As this is your rom most of this should be up to you and what you think is best, but to keep most happy, I would say keep HTC Youtube because the Google version is not as good as HTC's app, and HTC Youtube is very tricky to get to work via CAB. Everything else you mentioned I would remove. I can only give my advice as to what I think you are trying to accomplish here, a stable and clean rom for T-Mobile users. So I'd stay away from Sense 2.5, because then you would probably have to change the WM build for stability reasons... And in that case you may be better off starting with the stock rom that comes with Sense 2.5 (which would make this no different from the popular Energy or DeepShining roms). So, to stay away from that I would leave the Sense and WM builds alone.
Other than that, I'd stay away from freeware apps that can easily be added via CAB. If you intend to include UC in the future it will be easy to get our favorite apps installed. But some are best off cooked in, like Youtube and Telenav... But one of my pet peeves is chefs throwing in Total Commander, and I am a Resco Explorer user. Total Commander can easily be installed wit a CAB, no problem. These apps I feel should be left out of custom roms. And I would also leave icons as is... Too much time wasted on something we can and usually will customize ourselves, more focus should be put on speed, stability, battery life, etc...
I will try this out soon.
EDIT: OK here is some feedback after a few minutes of use...
-You have an empty Instant Messaging start menu folder
-T-Mobile's e-mail setup app is redundant because there is an HTC app which does the same thing
-Very fluid, responsive, and fast
-Start menu needs some cleaning up

Thanks for the feedback.
I'm working on the next release which will fix a couple of minor issues, fix the menu up and I'm thinking about Office Mobile 2010.
I'm avoiding adding Palringo for now, it's easily installed.
Overall, I'm happy with the ROM so far, it boots up to about 50% free memory, it's fast and the battery life is excellent.
I'm always open to any suggestions, comments or other ideas, so keep them coming.

v.06 released
I have released version .06 which fixes some issues with XDA_UC and creates some submenus to hold the extra tools and internet components.
Please send feedback.
Also, I will start writing a few minor structures to build on this foundation in the upcoming days.

Downloading now...

I've uploaded a simple script (see third post) that will improve the menus for anyone who likes a more organized layout.
I'm also going to write one to disable the T-Mobile backup service.

A few things to consider for future releases:
- Add 1% battery driver and 1% compatible taskbar (stock with battery % above the icon)
- Additional tabs
- 4 rows start menu
- Action Screen
Other than that, this rom seems pretty close to final IMO... Maybe update Office to 2010 or remove it, I'd also remove Mobile Backup. Really loving this rom so far, my only complaint is the problem with starting up where you get the select time zone screen. It happened to me on the stock rom too, but I was hoping for some kind of fix.

Showtime7 said:
A few things to consider for future releases:
- Add 1% battery driver and 1% compatible taskbar (stock with battery % above the icon)
- Additional tabs
- 4 rows start menu
- Action Screen
Other than that, this rom seems pretty close to final IMO... Maybe update Office to 2010 or remove it, I'd also remove Mobile Backup. Really loving this rom so far, my only complaint is the problem with starting up where you get the select time zone screen. It happened to me on the stock rom too, but I was hoping for some kind of fix.
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I'm looking into all of them, including office 2010. Mobile Backup is easy to remove, I've uploaded a mini script for that. See post 3.
As for the timezone, you shouldn't be getting it. I have not seen it myself since I did a task29 clean, you might want to look into that.

Yes I did so too... But I have been getting it on and off. I got the same thing happening with the stock rom.

Joe USer said:
I'm looking into all of them, including office 2010.
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You might want to remove Office 2007. Office 2010 is now a free download to any device that has WM6.5 installed. In keeping with your stated theme that anything that has an upgrade is removed that should qualify. I will be trying your new ROM soon.

I would love to see a T-Mobile ROM with manila 2.5

ourtech said:
You might want to remove Office 2007. Office 2010 is now a free download to any device that has WM6.5 installed. In keeping with your stated theme that anything that has an upgrade is removed that should qualify. I will be trying your new ROM soon.
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Unfortunately, it's not a free download unless you have Office 2007 installed. Attempting to install on a ROM without 2007 will fail.
Another solution is to use a copy of Office 2010 found here, but I'm reluctant to do so. I would rather keep the ability to download updates from Microsoft.