Hi,
I have this big, big problem with my carrier (Orange Spain) where they are charging me an arm and an eye for data connections I didn't make. I mean I just got this month's bill and I owe them 150€! Looking at it in detail I see numerous data connections ranging in the tens or hundreds of megs, made when I wasn't even using the phone. There's even one where I supposedly used 1,7 Gb!
They assure me that the connections have been made even if I'm not aware of them, and said that maybe they're due to a faulty phone. Is there a known problem with the N1 or any Android apps where they might be using those huge amounts of data without the user knowing it?
The apps use as much data as you let them use.
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account. Don't be surprised that doing it will result in huge bills.
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
email accounts with sync amount=all?
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
Jack_R1 said:
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account.
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Nope, I don't. I wasn't even tethering by USB at the time these connections were made.
Jack_R1 said:
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
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Does 3G Watchdog tell you which app is using / has used the data?
britoso said:
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
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Yep... but no new photos were uploaded.
britoso said:
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
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No, none of that.
britoso said:
email accounts with sync amount=all?
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Yes... still, those amount to 5-10 mails a day, tops.
osugsxr said:
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
No, 3G Watchdog doesn't tell you what app used the traffic. But there are others that do. Recently someone asked about such app, try to search the forum.
frandavid100 said:
I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
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Well, that should rule out Android itself from your OP. It must be an app. Newsrob? You should look into any app that autosyncs. Also check their sync interval settings.
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
frandavid100 said:
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
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This is, obviously, your bias showing and nothing more. There is no "background" data besides the obvious data - Gmail? Email? Contact sync (only when contacts change)? Data-syncing apps? Data-downloading apps (Maps/Navigation)? They're not present on "other mobile OS"? If they are - they draw the same data.
You might argue that Android gives a lot more "connectivity" to use by default, so users end up using a lot more data. That's closer to the truth - since Google apps rely on web availability, and they're available by default and easily accessible, they end up being used. On the other hand, it doesn't differ from installing those apps on any other mobile platform that supports it.
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No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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I already took that into account: some of the connections Orange is charging me for don't amount to a Kylobyte, so we can discard that. And I have single connections that range from the tens of Megs to a top of 1.67Gb. All of them connections I didn't make, obviously.
Install this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.curvefish.apps.trafficinfo
And check, what is connecting. If it's your phone at all.
Thanks, I've just started using it.
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks, I've just started using it.
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I am encountering the same issue (not so huge leaks but unknown as well)
TrafficInfo says me the following components use that data (every day lots of megabytes):
MediaStorage
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
have you figured out what that was?
Please let us know.
Thank you in advance
lbcoder said:
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks a lot man,
I don't know what that was in case of frandavid100,
but thanks to you I've figured out what is happening on my side.
I did tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap as you mentioned.
Your wise advice and mighty tool let me understand that my N1 downloads FRG83 firmware update from Google servers some times per day (but it can't install it because CM6 ROM is on board).
I really appreciate your help ! Thanks again.
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Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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You mean you want to turn off the radio?
Simple method is to go to Settings -> Wireless controls -> Airplane mode. NOTE: This turns off all radios, including WiFi.
If you want a icon to do this, go to the Market and download AnyCut and make a shortcut to Airplane mode.
no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
A little more description on your dilema would be apreciated.
Who charged you 55 euros?
Are you talking about data transmissions?
If your phone is on and you have service with some provider AND haven't installed any apps that require streaming data, you should not have any "open connections" as you say.
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no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
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anycut to 'phone info' might help.
'service viewer' in marketplace, but without root cant kill ;{
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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No need for a task manager as the device closes programs on its own.
To disable all data connections use anycut to phone info (like said above) and then menu -> more and you can disable data connection for just that time or disable it on boot to disable forever.
If you were charged 55 euros for using data then you need to get a different phone as this phone is meant for an always on connection so it is connected 24/7
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
mrboyd said:
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
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I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
neoobs said:
I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
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Don't mean to derail the converstaion but... Google, out of BETA? ROFLOL!!!
That'll be the end of life as we know it!
Anyways... going back to the subject. Your trick is neat and I don't need it (T-mobile customer with unlimited data) but still usefull.
@ mrboyd:
As neoobs stated, you'll have to do that workaround untill Google does add such a feature, but unless you give enough stink (complain) about it, they won't listen.
You could go here to developers and see if anyone is doing something about it and "ask" for such a "feature"
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers
Also, where are you located? Who's your service provider? What data plans do they have there, or don't?
On the same topic... if someone notices they have no data connection and want to enable it follow the same directions. I did this the other night when tmobiles towers were down. It helped me get connected again.
Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
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Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
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what 'thing' ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got a new XT1068 (dual-SIM unlocked) last week. It came with Android 5.0.2 out of the box and hasn't been updated yet.
My mobile data plan starts on the 1st of every month and I get 500MB. I don't browse much on mobile data so I keep it on all the time for push updates and such.
The other day (the 8th) I got a text from my carrier saying I used all the data. This had never happened before on any phone or any carrier I've used.
I went to the carriers website to check my account and it shows mobile data traffic in bursts of 100KB approximately every 10 minutes right up until they cut my access, because I reached the cap.
The odd thing is under "Data usage" I don't see any of these bursts.
A friend of mine had the exact same problem (same model and same carrier) and his solution was to do a Factory Restore. I want to find a better solution, because the phone just came from the factory.
Any ideas?
Try disabling Google location reporting, an use greneefy to other apps
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Try disabling Google location reporting, an use greneefy to other apps
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Thanks for your reply. I really like all the Google Now stuff, so I won't disable location, but I will look at Greeneefy.
I managed to find some concrete information on this here. The proposed solution was to change the APN settings to not include supl (Secure User Plane Location). Apparently that has to do with A-GPS and uses very little data, but I'm unlucky enough that my carrier deducts 100KB for every connection.
I applied the fix, but since I'm out of data, I can only know if it worked next month. I will report back.
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Thanks for your reply. I really like all the Google Now stuff, so I won't disable location, but I will look at Greeneefy.
I managed to find some concrete information on this here. The proposed solution was to change the APN settings to not include supl (Secure User Plane Location). Apparently that has to do with A-GPS and uses very little data, but I'm unlucky enough that my carrier deducts 100KB for every connection.
I applied the fix, but since I'm out of data, I can only know if it worked next month. I will report back.
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You could restrict Data Usage on Google Services too.
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You could restrict Data Usage on Google Services too.
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If this fix doesn't work I guess that's the only option. That would probably mess with location, wouldn't it?
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If this fix doesn't work I guess that's the only option. That would probably mess with location, wouldn't it?
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I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
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I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
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OK. It should still mess with some other things, I suspect.
I'll see if this SUPL thing works and if not I'll look into other options. Truth is that issue explains the frequent data use and the fact that it isn't reported under Data usage, so I really think that might be it.
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I don't think so, when the phone needs to know where it is, it triangulates its position between cell towers (with no actual data being used) plus GPS and plus WiFi if connected. You can try it and see if it works.
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Yes Sir that's right the phone don't need internet connection to know it's location but if Google reporting is enabled is will connect to send it's location to Google servers I think it will help disabling location reporting also battery is improved a lot
fburgos said:
Yes Sir that's right the phone don't need internet connection to know it's location but if Google reporting is enabled is will connect to send it's location to Google servers I think it will help disabling location reporting also battery is improved a lot
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I see. I'm happy with the battery life so far and I find Google's services very useful, so I'll leave it on for now. If the same problem turns up, I'll really have no choice but to turn it off.
My billing cycle is on the 10th of every month, I restored my phone recently and my data was reset then too. My data now says I have used 1.51GiB but my actual is 2.14GiB
Its not a huge difference but since I come very close to my allowed 5GiB a month so I like to be able to monitor it closely.
tjlmbklr said:
My billing cycle is on the 10th of every month, I restored my phone recently and my data was reset then too. My data now says I have used 1.51GiB but my actual is 2.14GiB
Its not a huge difference but since I come very close to my allowed 5GiB a month so I like to be able to monitor it closely.
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if you reset your phone, your phone wont show you the actual data usage. but your provider will, via app or their site. dont pay attention to what the phone will show you, pay attention to what your provider shows you.
simms22 said:
if you reset your phone, your phone wont show you the actual data usage. but your provider will, via app or their site. dont pay attention to what the phone will show you, pay attention to what your provider shows you.
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Obviously but I'm just trying to eliminate all the extra steps and I like being able to just look at my data usage which I have an Xposed module that shows my data used right on my status bar so I can always monitor exactly how much data have I used.
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Obviously but I'm just trying to eliminate all the extra steps and I like being able to just look at my data usage which I have an Xposed module that shows my data used right on my status bar so I can always monitor exactly how much data have I used.
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maybe, but a reset phone will never ever show your data accurately. i use the tmobile app to monitor my data, and i flash often, yet my data is always accurate.
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maybe, but a reset phone will never ever show your data accurately. i use the tmobile app to monitor my data, and i flash often, yet my data is always accurate.
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I use straight talk and their app has limited features. I'm trying My Data Manager app. It gives me a live feed I can manipulate.
The data usage is stored somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I don't know of a way to update what is read. You could have potentially restored the data usage right away and been closer though.
Sent from my DROID Turbo 2
For the past several months I've noticed this but now I want an answer or solution.
My phone is rooted and I have GravityBox installed so I can use the network traffic monitor tweak, among other things. Something I've noticed is that after a reboot, and I guess periodically throughout the day, I'll have a strange upload happening for up to about 2 minutes.
I've checked the data usage for both cellular and WiFi and I've found that neither of them are accurate to the usage listed for the apps. For cellular it is saying that I've used 1.2GB over the course of the pay period. I've checked with my network and my phone has only actually used 280MB so far into the pay period, which closely lines up with my calculated 290MB after adding up all the app usages. The same is also true for WiFi data usage as well, I'm not as concerned as I have no cap, but it says that I've used 12GB however adding up the individual apps only comes out to 3GB. So this would imply nothing is actually being uploaded.
I thought maybe it is an app or process hitting a local socket on loopback for one reason or another, but I just checked with using ping to send large 32kB packets 100 times a second to the loopback and no change in the network traffic monitor at all.
So something is being uploaded after all, or maybe ping's traffic isn't included? The upload rate might clue something in, as it is always 10-15MB/s, which is higher than my broadband upload speed. I don't know, I'd just like my data usage to be accurate so I don't have to worry about using it up for the month.
Anyone else experience the same thing?
Goggle Play Services and Android Services are constantly pinging, uploading whatever.
A minimum of 2/1 to up to 4/2 or more a minute at idle. That's with Google Transport, Framework, all cloud and social messaging disabled or removed. I started using Karma Firewall, blocking the former to reduce battery consumption... it worked.
I'm using a stock load so that's as deep as I can easily peer into the Android mess.
I also block numerous Samsung, other 3red party apps as well as Playstore. I temporarily lift the package and/or firewall block as needed. Near zero usability issues, a great reduction of wasted bandwidth and aminimum 1-3% increase of battery life.
Google Firebase is yet another worthless hog along with all Google, Samsung, App and carrier feedback... gone.
The typical Android is a hornet's nest of unwanted internet activity and an orgy of user data leaks.
Google is the biggest offender of all; a scope storage wolf in sheep's clothing.
Unacceptable.
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For the past several months I've noticed this but now I want an answer or solution.
My phone is rooted and I have GravityBox installed so I can use the network traffic monitor tweak, among other things. Something I've noticed is that after a reboot, and I guess periodically throughout the day, I'll have a strange upload happening for up to about 2 minutes.
I've checked the data usage for both cellular and WiFi and I've found that neither of them are accurate to the usage listed for the apps. For cellular it is saying that I've used 1.2GB over the course of the pay period. I've checked with my network and my phone has only actually used 280MB so far into the pay period, which closely lines up with my calculated 290MB after adding up all the app usages. The same is also true for WiFi data usage as well, I'm not as concerned as I have no cap, but it says that I've used 12GB however adding up the individual apps only comes out to 3GB. So this would imply nothing is actually being uploaded.
I thought maybe it is an app or process hitting a local socket on loopback for one reason or another, but I just checked with using ping to send large 32kB packets 100 times a second to the loopback and no change in the network traffic monitor at all.
So something is being uploaded after all, or maybe ping's traffic isn't included? The upload rate might clue something in, as it is always 10-15MB/s, which is higher than my broadband upload speed. I don't know, I'd just like my data usage to be accurate so I don't have to worry about using it up for the month.
Anyone else experience the same thing?
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I'm actually experiencing this for the past few days, have you found a solution yet? I literally tried everything. From clean flashing my rom, trying different kernels, firmwares etc. I checked my data usage its registering via phone settings, but not on my broadband settings. I'm having 5-8mbps uploads every 4-8 mins (it varies).
Not even sure where to start or how to properly articulate my problem, but here goes...
My S21 Ultra (AT&T) is most often connected to my home network which is Verizon FiOS with Verizon Extenders in SON (self-organizing network) configuration. Wi-Fi Calling is enabled as is Bluetooth and mobile data. Link to Windows is enabled and I use the Microsoft Your Phone app on my Win10 laptop regularly.
On a daily basis, I will encounter ant/all of the following problems:
1) SMS Text and/or MMS messages may not send. Says "Sending..." and then times out with Message Not Sent error.
2) Leave house, get in car, fire up Waze, get "Searching network..." error
3) Leave house, attempt to use mobile data for browser or apps, and get connection error of one type or another
In almost all cases, I can resolve the problem by enabling and then disabling Airplane Mode. This has worked consistently to fix the Waze issue and generally resolves the other issues when they occur.
Very frustrating and NEVER happened with my previous S10+ which I upgraded from.
Thoughts on what I should be looking for? Don't want to randomly do things like factory reset, hoping someone may have found a specific solution.
Thanks!
For starters...
Clear system cache
Reset network settings
Sim card tool kit, clear data
If you updated to a new Android OS version, a factory reset is recommended.
Otherwise unless infected or an old load, a factory reset is counter productive.
Find the root cause or it's likely to happen again after a factory reset
Get advance tech support from AT&T, sometimes they really know what they're doing.
Samsung tech support is worthless.
Cleared system cache & reset network settings (sadly losing all saved BT device connections and WiFi info) but still have issues. Phone came with current OS. Was hoping to not have to call AT&T given how nebulous my problems are.
dlipetz said:
Cleared system cache & reset network settings (sadly losing all saved BT device connections and WiFi info) but still have issues. Phone came with current OS. Was hoping to not have to call AT&T given how nebulous my problems are.
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Sim card tool kit, clear data
blackhawk said:
Sim card tool kit, clear data
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Not sure what that means, where to find it, or what the impact is... Can you please add some color?
have you contacted the carrier? swap the SIM maybe?
you can also submit an error report via samsung members app
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Not sure what that means, where to find it, or what the impact is... Can you please add some color?
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Settings>apps
No impact, the data refreshes its self.
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Settings>apps
No impact, the data refreshes its self.
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Thanks. Did the clear data on the SIM toolkit.
Should Mobile Network State (in SIM card status) say Disconnected?
dlipetz said:
Thanks. Did the clear data on the SIM toolkit.
Should Mobile Network State (in SIM card status) say Disconnected?
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Never mind... Disconnected when WiFi on, Connected when WiFi off. Doy.
dlipetz said:
Never mind... Disconnected when WiFi on, Connected when WiFi off. Doy.
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If you play with Androids long enough you'll bump into the solution eventaully.
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If you play with Androids long enough you'll bump into the solution eventaully.
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I sure hope so. I've been on Android since the Droid Incredible days but never have experienced this sort of behavior and it is maddening.
i have your same texting issue sporadically. seems to always happen when i am at work, sometimes turning airplane mode off and on real quick fixes it, other times i have to to do it several times....and like you i have had quite a few sammys not to mention lots of other brands and never had this problem....
chorales said:
i have your same texting issue sporadically. seems to always happen when i am at work, sometimes turning airplane mode off and on real quick fixes it, other times i have to to do it several times....and like you i have had quite a few sammys not to mention lots of other brands and never had this problem....
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Make sure power management is not active. It will cause all kinds of annoying and erratic behaviors.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is enabled. You can't fix it here, go to Device Care and untoggle it. The only thing that should be toggled on is fast charging.
Power mode should be set to Optimized or higher.
Make sure the related apks and their dependencies are set to allow background data and battery use.
Generally Android manages its self quit well without this junk. They're just more bad ideas from Gookill that will screw up your device
chorales said:
i have your same texting issue sporadically. seems to always happen when i am at work, sometimes turning airplane mode off and on real quick fixes it, other times i have to to do it several times....and like you i have had quite a few sammys not to mention lots of other brands and never had this problem....
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Who is your carrier? I'm on AT&T and had WiFI Calling enabled. For the time being, I have disabled it to see if problems go away.
dlipetz said:
Who is your carrier? I'm on AT&T and had WiFI Calling enabled. For the time being, I have disabled it to see if problems go away.
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If you have an unlimited plan just keep it on mobile. It's more secure anyway.
I keep wifi disabled always. That's an easy way to block Playstore auto updates
blackhawk said:
Make sure power management is not active. It will cause all kinds of annoying and erratic behaviors.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is enabled. You can't fix it here, go to Device Care and untoggle it. The only thing that should be toggled on is fast charging.
Power mode should be set to Optimized or higher.
Make sure the related apks and their dependencies are set to allow background data and battery use.
Generally Android manages its self quit well without this junk. They're just more bad ideas from Gookill that will screw up your device
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Also, are you using Google One VPN by chance?
blackhawk said:
If you have an unlimited plan just keep it on mobile. It's more secure anyway.
I keep wifi disabled always. That's an easy way to block Playstore auto updates
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Not a solution. I need the WiFi speeds and use in areas with poor connectivity.
dlipetz said:
Also, are you using Google One VPN by chance?
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I stay away from Gookill as much as possible.
Karma Firewall is a freeware VNP firewall that uses almost no battery... I use that.
dlipetz said:
Who is your carrier? I'm on AT&T and had WiFI Calling enabled. For the time being, I have disabled it to see if problems go away.
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my carrier is AT&T also....when i have had this issue i have turned wifi off and tried and it doesn't make any difference. will look into the battery settings that have been mentioned.
chorales said:
my carrier is AT&T also....when i have had this issue i have turned wifi off and tried and it doesn't make any difference. will look into the battery settings that have been mentioned.
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Disable all power management including adaptive battery etc.
Then clear the sim card tool kit data, then a network reset and finally clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Consider disabling all the AT&T bloatware except for maybe messages (which works well), none of it is needed.
Disable carrier, Google and Samsung feedback.
Disable all cloud crap unless you use it, Google Backup Transport/Framework are prime offenders.
Disable Google Firebase.