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Guys, I want to share with you
I finally realize that the money I spend out to buy nook color is not worth it. beside used for browsing, youtube, playing game, I also want to use it for playing video, however when I try to play MKV files, the video and sound is out of sync, and when I try to play AVI file in mobo player, it can't be played and I switch to use QQPlayer and it plays fine however some frame is skipping so the video seems a bit laggy. THIS IS SO DISAPPOINTING, nowadays most video files are in MKV format, why this tablet is not supporting to play MKV video compare to other tablets?
FOr the same price I can get tabulet (tablet from china), it can play video file well compare to nook, the only problems maybe it will have slower update compare to phiremod. Now tell me, why you wanna buy a Nook color while the same amount of money can be used to buy other tablets or top up a bit to buy other tablet that can play video files.
What speed is your SD? I am running Gingerbread on a 16GB class 6 card and have no issues playing AVI files in Moboplayer.
If I was looking to buy a tablet today I would not buy a Nook, got mine for $200. But would instead buy the Asus Transformer if they ever get any in stock.
I also have no problem playing videos. That said, I've never tried an MKV file, as I've never heard of it. So I definitely can't support your assertion that most videos are in the format these days. But I'll have to trust you that the NC has troubles playing it.
I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
Im watching the rite now on my nook color as we speak. Its very smooth and I'm using Mobo. So I dont see what you are talking about
Nook Color is an ereader that some people have converted to general tablet use. There is no reason why it would have its own video player.
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I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
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Hopefully it's still not too late for you to return the Nook. The Nook was never known for it's multimedia capabilities. It was designed and marketed as an e-Reader. It's great that the dev community is able to enhance the capabilities of the device. Good luck!
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I have no trouble playing mkv files using mobo player. I am using CM7 with OC Kernel 04/24.
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i am using phiremod 6.2 with 720p quality, how about yours? I guess must be 480p quality
I got my NV on Saturday then rooted it and put CM7.0.2 stable on the emmc (not SD). I converted three movies in Handbrake using recommended settings found on XDA to MP4. I use Rockplayer and it works great. The movies are about 900mb in size with running length about 1hr 45 min and no problems.
The only video/audio sync issue I saw was using MLB.TV app but the is a common problem with MLB app. Playon MLB app works fine.
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i am using phiremod 6.2 with 720p quality, how about yours? I guess must be 480p quality
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Phiremod 6.2 IS CM7, with some extra skinning.
Anyway, a little research will go a long way. The Nook does not have the hardware to play most 720P movie; though Mobo player will play a few quite well. The built in hardware decoding can only do up to 480P, and Mobo player, using certain CPU decoding pieces, can do some 720P.
BUt as it is, you would have known all this if you had just done some research beforehand. Video on the nook is a hot topic, and not something you would have to dig deep to find out about, including its weaknesses.
And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
same, try rockplayer, works for me.. running rooted stock and draggin-dropping .avi's to a class 16 class 2 sd, they play fine.
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Phiremod 6.2 IS CM7, with some extra skinning.
Anyway, a little research will go a long way. The Nook does not have the hardware to play most 720P movie; though Mobo player will play a few quite well. The built in hardware decoding can only do up to 480P, and Mobo player, using certain CPU decoding pieces, can do some 720P.
BUt as it is, you would have known all this if you had just done some research beforehand. Video on the nook is a hot topic, and not something you would have to dig deep to find out about, including its weaknesses.
And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
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if you know nothing about tabulet (china tablet that rebrand by indonesia company), then don't say anything. Though it is 700mhz it can play video well,
so what if nook can be overclocked to 1,3Ghz? Is there so many apps that is running in background that need the speed? It is not a pc, it is a tablet mostly for single or two task for simple like listening to music while reading, it is not for running many apps behind the scene such as rendering video or encoding
the different between those china tablet and nook is their graphic capabilities. Those china tablet, viewsonic tablet or asus tablet has better VGA and hardware decoding features that enable them to play video smoothly, unlike nook which is merely an over expensive e-reader that both expensive and yet unable to play video files well. And FYI, tabulet or china tablet is now moving to capacitive, though not much is capacitive but most new product is in capacitive screen, so forget about your idea that telling you all china tablet is resistive!
So go buy a "china tablet" then. What's the point in whining about something that everyone knows about beside trolling?
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...And please... what a load about the Chinese players. Yes, you can get a crap tablet for $150... that has a low res resistive screen, Android 2.1, no community, and no support (oh, and looks like a bad iPad knockoff to boot). But please, since you alone seem to know about them, please point us to another knockoff tablet that has such an amazing screen, great hardware (all that can hit 1.1Ghz, and most that can hit 1.3Ghz), for $200-$225 (best buy was having a $25 gift card sale recently)..
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Indeed. Everywhere I turn, I'm seeing more and more [email protected] tablets that are either running an old version of Android, have paltry memory, low res, horrible battery life, etc. Often times, it's a combination of ALL of these things. DealExtreme carries several pretty horrible tablets.
Innosia: That sucks that the nook isn't satisfying your needs. I can understand your frustration. What are you expecting by whining about it here? Do you want us to pass the plate around to fund a replacement for you? The only thing you're going to get, particularly here, is a lot of indignation. Again, that sucks that it doesn't do what you need it to do. Sell the damned thing on eBay or Craigslist before it declines further in value and buy yourself something that suits your needs.
I dont really see what the big deal is, reencode the videos. Itunes does that for IPOD/ipad devices, why cant you do that for the nook? Are you just saying your too lazy to use a template and reencode some videos you want to watch?
The nook was never marketed for its multimedia skills. The fact that it has a hw decoder at all, is pretty lucky. for 250 its the best device i found out there. it does everything i would want out of it. If i wanted more, i would have bought an IPAD.
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So go buy a "china tablet" then. What's the point in whining about something that everyone knows about beside trolling?
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I am not rich and I already cheated to buy nook and not able to afford a new tablet unless selling this one, I am not whining or trolling, what I am trying to point out here is for newbie who want to buy nook color, hopes they dont fall to the trap in buying nook color if they need playing video. I am just warning them, so they can use their money wisely. Be careful for B&N over expensive e-reader sales team
What were you expecting from a hack eReader?
Be serious. Its an ereader. All the rest is gravy. Whatever else you can do with it (besides read books) is awesome. Stop whining long enough to understand what you DID buy and what you DIDN'T buy. When you recognize the absolute awesomeness of what you bought has become you'll thank these fine folks for all their hard work.
Thanks everyone for all the hard work, done on your own time, for nothing in return.
I really appreciate it! Cheers m8s.
It sounds like you want a video-player more than a tablet. I'm wondering why you would come on here to post about how bad the NC is for your purposes? From all the posts I read it seems like you could easily read on here about what video types work and how to get them working smoothly. If you want something working out of the box, then return the nook and get it. If you want to fiddle with the thing until things work, then keep the NC. Simple
Sell it on eBay for about as much as you bought it for. They're still going for pretty high.
As has already been pointed out, re-encoding the video into an appropriate format does wonders for allowing it to play properly on the non-multimedia optimized nook.
FWIW, I've also noticed that different players have better luck with different formats. I currently have 3 video players installed (yx, Vital, and QQ) and have found that one of them will almost always properly play any of the couple hundred video's I already have on my media server.
Between iPhones, Xbox, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and some random other netbooks and devices, I've gotten a lot of experience at getting video to work on a lot of platforms. It would be great if AirVideo decided to do an Android client.
Hi guys,
I am weighing up the option of buying a Nook HD+, it will be primarily used as a ebook reader, majority of the content is large textbooks in PDF format, some are well in excess of 1000 pages, I was wondering what peoples experience was in such a case? What is performance like, i.e. scrolling?
It was between the Nook and Nexus 10, however N10 has too many issues with back light bleed and multiple RMA's, the screen on the Nook seems better for reading from what little reviews are out there, what you guys think?
Many Thanks
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Hi guys,
I am weighing up the option of buying a Nook HD+, it will be primarily used as a ebook reader, majority of the content is large textbooks in PDF format, some are well in excess of 1000 pages, I was wondering what peoples experience was in such a case? What is performance like, i.e. scrolling?
It was between the Nook and Nexus 10, however N10 has too many issues with back light bleed and multiple RMA's, the screen on the Nook seems better for reading from what little reviews are out there, what you guys think?
Many Thanks
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I bought the Nook HD+ for the same reason. The N10 screen issues, plus the fact that 7" is a bit too small for PDFs, made it my choice. Uptil now, I have no complaints, it's a great screen to read on. I have a 'matte' screen protector and brightness turned way down, and it really comes close to approximating my old Kindle in terms of lack of eye strain.
With the PDF size, I'm not so sure. I've gone upto 100-200 pages PDF with no issues (although ezPDF, the Android App. has a tendency to crash). Not sure about 1000 pages. One thing you could try is cutting them up into smaller sizes (say 200 pages each) before transfer.
I bought the nook HD+ exactly for this reason i.e. to read large pdfs. Till now I red pdfs with up to 600 pages, using Ezpdf and Mantano and I can confirm that both work fine. The stock reader is also fine albeit with just the basic functionality. One minor problem with Mantano reader is the inability to display the underlying "image" of an ocr'd pdf - it gives just the recognized text which sometimes isn't that accurate.
Thanks both Tarthenal and Tschumi, I appreciate your feedback.
Tarthenal - As for ezPDF crashing, from what I have read is that you can try two things to see if it helps:
1) In ezPDF turn off page turning animations, apparently makes a difference.
2) Enable "Force GPU rendering" to use 2D acceleration, I have this option in CyanogenMod on my Galaxy Note, I'm not sure if it is an option in the Nook HD+?
How are you also installing the third party applications, am I correct in assuming rooting the HD+, install Gaps, then through Google Play?
It sounds like I'll be just fine with the largest of my PDFs, what's it like as a general purpose tablet with something like CyanogenMod? My primary purpose is booking reading, so anything in addition to this will be a bonus.
The screen looks real nice from the pictures and videos I've seen, hopefully it will be just as nice when I receive it, I have not seen it in person.
The screen is superb. One of the best I have seen in a tablet. As for the ezpdf, I always disable the animations, but always feels laggy. You can enable 2d acceleration in the settings of the cm10 rom by verygreen but there's no such option in the stock options.
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Thanks both Tarthenal and Tschumi, I appreciate your feedback.
Tarthenal - As for ezPDF crashing, from what I have read is that you can try two things to see if it helps:
1) In ezPDF turn off page turning animations, apparently makes a difference.
2) Enable "Force GPU rendering" to use 2D acceleration, I have this option in CyanogenMod on my Galaxy Note, I'm not sure if it is an option in the Nook HD+?
How are you also installing the third party applications, am I correct in assuming rooting the HD+, install Gaps, then through Google Play?
It sounds like I'll be just fine with the largest of my PDFs, what's it like as a general purpose tablet with something like CyanogenMod? My primary purpose is booking reading, so anything in addition to this will be a bonus.
The screen looks real nice from the pictures and videos I've seen, hopefully it will be just as nice when I receive it, I have not seen it in person.
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The screen really is excellent. I have disabled page turning animations, will try the gpu rendering option, thanks for the tip! I'm running CM10 from the SD card, which is excellent (except for battery, as I mentioned, I get around 30% drain in 3-4 hours reading). But I used Leapinlar's thread to root stock as well. The 'general purpose' tablet is really good, although the lack of camera means you can't video skype (why you would want that on a tablet though, is beyond me ). Overall, I'm VERY satisfied with it. Now, I am just wondering if the bluetooth keyboard will work with CM10.
Since my HD+ is rooted, I've tried a bunch of apps for reading pdfs from every store (just reading--i can't really comment on other pdf features). My favorites are Adobe Reader and the Kindle reader app, both of which work flawlessly on my device. I found that the stock reader works great for text pdfs, but graphics and photos appear noticeably more contrast-y in the stock reader than they do in other apps. I've also had problems with ezpdf crashing and lagging, so I uninstalled that one. i'll try the things the other posters mentioned and see if i have a better time with ezpdf.
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Since my HD+ is rooted, I've tried a bunch of apps for reading pdfs from every store (just reading--i can't really comment on other pdf features). My favorites are Adobe Reader and the Kindle reader app, both of which work flawlessly on my device. I found that the stock reader works great for text pdfs, but graphics and photos appear noticeably more contrast-y in the stock reader than they do in other apps. I've also had problems with ezpdf crashing and lagging, so I uninstalled that one. i'll try the things the other posters mentioned and see if i have a better time with ezpdf.
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Hmmm. That sounds interesting. Do you know if you can highlight/annotate with the Kindle reader app?
Many thanks for your additional comments guys, I've gone ahead and ordered the Nook HD+ 32 GB, it should arrive next week, will share my thoughts, your inputs helped me reach a decision
As far as I can tell, the Kindle app can only be used to read pdfs--the pdfs look great, especially any graphics, but you really can't do much else with them.
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From my case I can confirm two things.
1/ It read ebook <1500p ok (the number of page of my current reading book)
2/ the screen quality is much better than that of the first gen KF (I didn't feel pain in my eye when reading with the nook hd+)
Compare to N7 FHD
So, bumping an old thread as the 2013 FHD also has the same resolution.
How does 1920*1200 compare with the Nexus 7" to the HD+ 9"? Is it more comfortable? Or was the 1200*800 the bigger difference on the 7" ( or some current 10.1" devices?) because of the need to zoom and pan.
Basically, 7" & 9" @ 1920/1200, do you still zoom and pan?
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So, bumping an old thread as the 2013 FHD also has the same resolution.
How does 1920*1200 compare with the Nexus 7" to the HD+ 9"? Is it more comfortable? Or was the 1200*800 the bigger difference on the 7" ( or some current 10.1" devices?) because of the need to zoom and pan.
Basically, 7" & 9" @ 1920/1200, do you still zoom and pan?
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I guess it may be too subjective to give an universal answer. For me, the Nexus 7 is too small regardless of resolution to read complex PDFs on it comfortably. I use Mantano Reader's crop feature to read on my Nook and that way I can read most of them in portrait mode and without the need to do any zooming at all. I wouldn't be able to do that on the Nexus 7.
It's definitely subjective as it depends on your eyesight!
However I find it easy to read standard pdf documentation without zooming on the Nook hd+, can't do so on any smaller screen or resolution devices at all.
If the margins on the pdf doc are large I do have to zoom a little on occasion, but only to offset the margin distance, so only once per page, & not on many documents at all.
Incidentally I read tonnes of comics, the resolution & screen size is perfect for that, it's pretty much a ready made comic book reader in the respect.
I'm running CM 10.1.3 on my HD+ and the screen is brilliant. Also, with Force GPU Rendering turned on, and using Adobe Reader, I've had no lag whatsoever on books upto ~4000+ pages (these things are like 500mb PDFs). Haven't tested on bigger PDFs (don't suppose anyone would ever even have to). Great tablet.
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I'm running CM 10.1.3 on my HD+ and the screen is brilliant. Also, with Force GPU Rendering turned on, and using Adobe Reader, I've had no lag whatsoever on books upto ~4000+ pages (these things are like 500mb PDFs). Haven't tested on bigger PDFs (don't suppose anyone would ever even have to). Great tablet.
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500MB pdf sounds like a scanned document. Is that correct?
I hope there is a decent Black Friday deal with international shipping. Ebay has refurbished models that are cheap but when I consider the international shipping spending a little more would give me the N7 FHD.
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500MB pdf sounds like a scanned document. Is that correct?
I hope there is a decent Black Friday deal with international shipping. Ebay has refurbished models that are cheap but when I consider the international shipping spending a little more would give me the N7 FHD.
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Yep. Scanned. Although, let me give you a word of caution if you want to buy one. For some reason, the base UI, on all the ROMs out there is lagparadise. Incredibly poor performance there, but in-app performance is stunning. This thing scored about 17000 on Antutu 4.1.1 as opposed to the 14000 score I was able to achieve on my Galaxy Nexus OC to 1.5GHz (they has the same CPU, but lots of difference). Although, my Gnex's UI never lags. I believe it's that the Nook HD+ has ****ty flash mem. Transfer rates are also terribly slow on internal memory (works as it should on my class 10 mSD though, so it's got to be it.)
I have both a nexus 7 2013 and a nook hd+ and prefer the nook hd+ due to not having to zoom in. Don't get me wrong you can read detailed pdf's without zooming in on the nexus 7 2013 but it's much better with the 8.9" display on the nook. Also I wasn't happy with the pdf performance of the nook hd+ until I install smartq reader which renders pdf's so much faster than any other app and I've tried them all. At one point I was about to buy a ipad just for pdf's until I found smartq reader.
hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
and the most important questions:
does it blend?
All great questions. I just ordered the Z so I cannot answer them. I will let you know when I review the unit.
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hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
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That's true.
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
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Pc or Phone
Phone: Settings>Storage> Unmount Sd Card > Mount SD Card and it should be done.
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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That's not an issue, just download an FTF file from this forum, doesn't really matter from which country.
(Btw Sal)
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
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They were probably to lazy not to do a full wipe before installing 4.2.2.
I underCLOCKED my cpu to 1ghz and I have no lag and I'm not even a wizard...
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
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If I'm corrrect the one from Samsung works, not sure tho.
On the SonyMobile site you can buy one for about 30Euro
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
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Shouldn't be a problem @ 30 fps, not sure about 48
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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I'd like to refer you to this topic and judge for yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172712
Look from page 35 or something.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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I also came from an Amoled phone (Galaxy Note) and I have no complaints, but that's just me, you have to judge it for yourself.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
Just make sure to get screen protectors before you use the phone and you should be ok, also don't forget to get a case.
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does it blend?
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It does blend, but it DOES NOT BEND! So don't try it!
Pa:highfive::silly:
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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Camera is not that great. I am an amerture photographer and I was more impressed with my last phone (i9100). Main issue is Sony overcompress the images so there is quite a lot of noise. Low light is pretty poor really but that is my opinion. If the lighting is favourable then the quality is more than acceptable.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality
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The screen is very sharp and brightness is good. Compared to the AMOLED of the samsungs the colours are more natural which I like. Blacks are not as good though but the Sony screen is a joy to work with none the less.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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Given the Xperia is mostly glass on the outside it would be more likely to break than an aluminium one or at least twice as likely for you to end up with broken glass (ie the back or the front). Also the glass comes pre coverd with anti shatter platic film which is very easy to scratch and cannot be replaced. That said I dont use any protection with mine and I'm not that fussed. I don't expect it to look like new when I'm done with it though and I like it to be naked so it isn't bulky in my pocket. I've droped mine a couple of times and it bounced pretty well. The only marks are from when I put it it my pocket with my keys and the sharp car key marked the screen protector.
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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you should try ftf for generic europe or central, or unbranded spain: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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well, i was a bit afraid of screen angles, because a lot of people don't reccomend z because of that, however when i finally turn on the phone, i was impressed. Maybe you won't be able to check the clock when you're in bed if you have bright wallpaper, but the resolution, brightness quickly cover this minus
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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It's not a tough guy, better buy some kind of case, or pay some attention to it. It fell once for me from around 50-60 cm, but fortunately, nothing happend to him
thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...
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thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...
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I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.
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I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.
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http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv
I came from one s and had no regrets at all. But mine was villec2. Screen wise, I prefer z to one s.
Sent from my C6603
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http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv
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Nopes.
Of course it does play, but with hiccups and not in sync at all.
I tried it with MX Player.
(4) First, like Dsteppa (@ #3 post) said, laggy or not depends mostly on how one updates to 4.2.2 (from 4.1.2). Full wipe / factory reset / clean install do really help to avoid lagging.
I've tried serveral approaches to update my XZ to 4.2.2, and finally achieved "no lag" by doing this: format whatever partition I can think of on the phone (system, data etc.) hence resulted in "soft-brick" (phone won't boot but stuck at the SONY logo screen), then plug the phone to SONY's Update Service to repair by flashing the latest 4.2.2 onto it, followed by installing every single app back to the phone 'manually' and not through backups from Titanium Pro.
Second, lagging or not may also be app related. 2 out of 103 apps that I installed do result in sluggish and heat up when run; one is a local weather app, and the other one is Chrome. Both are running good and smooth on 4.1.2 but not on 4.2.2. My wild guess is that they're not optimized for XZ 4.2.2 yet. Freeze them with Titanium Pro (root required) and my XZ is running smooth and ice cold now.
Anyway, I believe if you get a new XZ right now, it should be with 4.2.2 out of the box, so, there shouldn't be any problem, just be aware of what app to use and you'll be fine.
(about my XZ: stock rom 423, Generic HK R4B, odexed, rooted, mod with PureXAudio v18 / Navigation Bar 36dpi)
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(6) The 'stock' movie player does have some limitations to play those formats you mentioned. "MX Player" does not.
I have tried 480/720/1080, interlaced/progressive, 23.976(or 24)/.../60fps, level 3.0/.../5.1, H.264/AVC/mpeg, AAC/Dolby AC-3/DTS (custome codec required for DTS), mkv/mp4, subtitle(s) with UTF-8 format, 10gb+ a file... etc with MX Player Pro on my XZ, play smooth and no problem so far EXCEPT those files with 10-bit color-rendering instead of the normal use of 8-bit (since 10-bit is not yet supported by hardware acceleration).
I don't have any mkv/mp4 file with HFR 48fps since I only render my DVDs and Blu-rays with framerate set as source, and there is no DVD/Blu-ray disc comes with 48fps so far in the market, including the blu-ray release of Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit", which is using 24p instead of the HFR 48fps like it's theatrical release. Reason is that today's commercial grade blu-ray player and TV doesn't support such framerate for it is not a standard yet; well, in the future yes may be. If you really want to play HFR 48 materials, you will need some industrial grade equipments, like those for use in studios.
So I doubt if XZ can really support 48fps playback; if yes, XZ won't be this small in size, plus, it won't be selling at this price.
Just a side note, movie that you download from Internet which claims itself running at 48fps, is just a gimmick and use 'fake' frame to achieve it's so-called 48fps, not true HFR 48. When playback, it won't do any good but harm your system/player since extra computing power is required to handle/correct those fake frames, which are supposingly not being there.
Hope this help.
So far I've only been playing Injustice and Galaxy On Fire 2.
Do you have a favorite or suggestion to really show off the power of this tablet?
haha nice question but i would like samsung to at least put 2 of the demo videos they have into the tablet just to show them off to friends ohhh look at this amazing display haha. then delete them when you're sick of them
avenging said:
haha nice question but i would like samsung to at least put 2 of the demo videos they have into the tablet just to show them off to friends ohhh look at this amazing display haha. then delete them when you're sick of them
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This app shows the advantages over LCD and some other benefits of the Tab S.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.TabSApp
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groaner said:
So far I've only been playing Injustice and Galaxy On Fire 2.
Do you have a favorite or suggestion to really show off the power of this tablet?
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I too have been playing GoF2 and it is amazing on the AMOLED screen. The other three that I play and look exceptional due to the screen are Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, Shadowrun Returns and Osmos HD. I am always looking for more so any suggestions would be great.
XBMC HD Videos look really nice on this tablet. At least my time watching GOT on this tablet has been a good experience.
The preinstalled video Wonder of Nature is a good one to show it off
Shadowgun runs pretty well on this tablet :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.shadowgun
I think DEAD SPACE and NEED FOR SPEED PURSUIT shows awesome
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Shadowgun runs pretty well on this tablet :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.shadowgun
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good? I have the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 with the Tegra 4. I ran the games side by side. On ultra settings the Tegra 4 is MUCH smoother and polished. When running on the Samsung, you feel a bit of stutter. My game play suffered a bit until i got use to it. It seems to clear up on the lower graphic setting.
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good?
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At least, it runs better than on my Transformer TF101 !
Leos fortune looks awesome. Well worth the $5.
Rio 2 is a good video to show it off
I second Leo's Fortune
Third it, amazing looking game
Timescapes 1440p Video
Anyone here can try to find and download this video. Timescapes 1440p Video. Search for it. It is 1440p and plays flawlessly with MX Player. It is must have demo material. Whoever watches it will be blown away. Must have for this device. It is about 6GB so an External SD would be ideal.
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good? I have the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 with the Tegra 4. I ran the games side by side. On ultra settings the Tegra 4 is MUCH smoother and polished. When running on the Samsung, you feel a bit of stutter. My game play suffered a bit until i got use to it. It seems to clear up on the lower graphic setting.
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Just played Shadowgun on my Tab S 10.5 on Ultra Settings. Super smooth. No lag or stutter present.
mitchellvii said:
Just played Shadowgun on my Tab S 10.5 on Ultra Settings. Super smooth. No lag or stutter present.
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Wouldn't be surprised.....ran like butter on my 2 year old tablet.
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Wouldn't be surprised.....ran like butter on my 2 year old tablet.
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Dunno, his Tab S seems to stutter on everything. He should really look into replacing that thing. I wasn't surprised it was smooth either. I mean it's not Battlefield 4 after all .
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Anyone here can try to find and download this video. Timescapes 1440p Video. Search for it. It is 1440p and plays flawlessly with MX Player. It is must have demo material. Whoever watches it will be blown away. Must have for this device. It is about 6GB so an External SD would be ideal.
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Unfortunately FAT32 external SD cards have a 4GB file size limit, so even that won't help. I would love to find a few clips from this. I think I could split it myself, but I'm afraid I won't be able to do it properly without losing quality through re-encoding. I'm no pro when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Great suggestion though.
Format your card in ExFat file system and no longer be a 4gb limited victim!
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Itchiee said:
Format your card in ExFat file system and no longer be a 4gb limited victim!
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Really? I did not know that. Thank you!
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
i'm getting one next month
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When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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just wish Amazon weren't pushing their Fire tablets so hard, then we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
not sure if the flash/dolphin hack still works but for those of us in EU, silverlight only
this could the start of premium android tablets driving apps designed for that screen real estate
can only be a good thing for the sector in general
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we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
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I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...
Speaking of the stock browser. Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks? It used to do that but seems like it no longer does. How do I import my bookmarks?
I like Dolphin for one reason. Like the swipe bookmark sidebar that no one else has. Maxthon is also outstanding for easy bookmark navigation.
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When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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Sony's tablet is pretty sweet too.
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Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks?
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It went away when Google forked WebKit. You can sink your (Samsung) devices via your Samsung account though.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/go...ine-that-will-soon-power-chrome-and-chromeos/
I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
psst sync
*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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Sony's tablet is pretty sweet too.
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Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
The only think about the stock browser, that bugs me to no end is, the fact you can keep "desktop view" on, at all times. I have too constantly select it for every website. They made a huge error, in that regard.
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I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
psst sync
*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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If only auto-correct checked grahamer.
If you want a fast good looking browser that syncs bookmarks nicely over the cloud try Maxthon HD for Tablets. Very nice. One feature I really like is the ability to instantly go back to the prior page without reloading it from the web. It also does prefetch well. Pages seem to load very quickly.
I just got mine today... am extremely impressed with it so far. Very lightweight and good quality, screen is stunning, very fast so far as well. Now ive only just about set it up and haven't really done much yet so this will get a update later. all ive done is update all the apps, took a look at Galaxy Gifts and Essentials, and setup a few differents apps on it.
true but...
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Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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Nothing a decent debloating or rom can't solve. This Tab S 10.5 is pure ocular joy. Every day I am amazed by the extreme resolution, deep blacks and vibrant colors. The only reason I can see for going with the Sony is if you plan to use the tablet in the tub ☺.
thanks, sounds interesting...
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I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...]
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I have used Plex a lot as well but I prefer a simple solution and not having another server on all the time
looks like i may be ripping my BluRay collection and sticking them on an SD card
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
yes but...
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
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everyone has their own requirements
we have a 2.5 year old in the house and larger bezels would be useful
Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing
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If the N10.1-14 on 4.3 was faster than the TF-701 on 4.4 there's something amiss. AnandTech's Sunspider scores for the 8.4/10.5 were 1,082/1,015. That's pretty poor considering they and the N10.1-14 share h/w. Hopefully updates will improve things. As for Chrome, for whatever reason, it's a slug on all Samsung's high-end tablets and has been widely discussed on all their forums.
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Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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Did you try Maxthon HD Tablet browser? It is amazingly fast and full featured. Regardless for me Chrome ran perfectly albeit I don't care for how it handles bookmarks so I switched to Maxthon. Nevertheless, lag was never a problem and Web pages always looked great and loaded fast.
When I hear these reports of terrible responsiveness in something as basic as Web browsing I have to wonder if you have a defective unit or some sort of software causing a resource conflict. Are you still using Touchwiz? Did you try another launcher such as Nova or GO? There is simply no way a tablet with this level of hardware should struggle at Web browsing at all.