[Q] LCD Density at 250 looks unsharp and cartoonish. Is it the same on Samsung Tab??? - Nook Color General

Editing the build.prop file to change the LCD Density from 163 to 250, to match the Samsung Galaxy Tab, makes the Nook color icons and graphics seem very cartoonish and blurry.
I'm wondering, do the images on the Samsung Galaxy Tab look blurry and unsharp also at it's default of 250 LCDD? If not, does it use a different set of images at a different resolution or something?
Is there any way of improving the appearance of icons and graphics on the Nook Color at LCD Density of 250 so it doesn't look so blurred and un-sharp???
Does anyone have a suggested LCD Density that gets as close to 250 without things looking un-sharp and dull?
Thanks

I don’t like anything above 190.

Doesn't the galaxy tab use 240?
The graphics that don't look very good are raster so they wont scale to a larger size without looking worse. Don't know of anything that you can do.

Galaxy Tab can use whatever Samsung wants for their default hike of their "native", aka physical pixel density which is somewhere between 168 and 170 dpi. Their approach might include enhanced (for 240 dpi) rendering of icons and probably enhanced rendering of fonts. Both are dependent on how good the device's Open GL ES 2.0 works, especially how much hardware assitance in rendering is involved.
Our hardware might be not involved at all, especially being pre-A2.2 (or I'd rather say, pre-Android 2.3).
As NookColor stands today (even with Nookie Froyo), I can't recommend doing any DPI hikes (like to 180, or to 200, or even to 240 dpi) as unsupported at the present level of Open GL implementation. Some tweaks around 168...170 may prove more productive in gaining better readability though, see it in my blog fineoils.blogspot.com: a recent post, and throughout.

I hiked mine to 170 and didn't like the loss of sharpness. I don't know how people tolerate anything over 180.

I'm at 204... works well
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Also using 204, and it looks great. To each their own, I guess . . .
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180 looks great to me. higher than that starts cutting off ui elements here and there. higher than 200, though, starts looking a bit wonky and the status bar turns into a cluttered mess.

180 here.. perfect and tack sharp for me
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I played around with my density levels after reading a post from a prominent participant here in the Nook section of XDA.
When the idea of the adjusting pixel definition first came we were all lowering our densities for sharper screens on our phones.
To raise it on the Nook to come close to the Galaxy Tab seemed counter intuitive and the amount of apps made for tabs size at the time was poor at best and still is. Yet so much is determined by software and hardware. So after fiddling with my density I settled with stock 160. I need that sharpness. My Samsung Vibrant's screen is so good. Picking up my phone after my tab was disapointing.
As a photographer I stare and gauge sharpness all day long, so I am probably guilty of over thinking it.
As stated previously, software limitations currently apply so maybe in the future going up in desity will yield great results. I think we have only begun to what this screen can do.
Given all that I surmise its a matter of taste and one more tool in our tool box as things evolve, and they are evolving fast and fun.
from my Android Nook Color tablet,
via the XDA app.

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HVGA resolution hack for Wildfire

Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.
Dude, no hack can push things over hardware limits... I m no android developer, but if you need higher resolution look for another android deveice..
vijaykr1985 said:
Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.
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check lcd density thread in themes and apps
I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.
I duno about you... but i think it will be really really hard for software to alter the hardware of a phone. hvga on the wildfire would be awesome... but not any sooner
vijaykr1985 said:
I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.
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not the app, i mean check the thread! you cant use the app u must change manually in system/build.prop
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i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set
I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.
vijaykr1985 said:
I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.
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ahh, i am well off then lol. with LCDDensity for root the lowest you can go is 100.
but like one poster above me said, i spose if you want a HVGA screen you pay the premium price for it. i am happy with my wildfire, i have to be, my wife won't let me buy a new phone for another year! i go through to many apparently. we will see though, if i buy a desire she may not know the difference
Not Possible IMO , Though I have also Worked with LCD Density Changer (Beansoft) Wildfire Looks Good With Density 100 / 110 , Any lower than than and the menu text and the Notification Icons looks Crappy.
We would need Hardware Upgrades (Better LCD) In Order to Increase it :-/ I So wish we had Better screen , Resolution is the worst Issue on Wildfire.
I just tried lcd density changer, 110 setting did nothing and 100 setting screws up the lockscreen slider and makes it laggy.
^^ Do it by small Changes , The Stock Lockscreen looks good at 100/110 , The HTC One Screws up.
I hate the Icons at Notification Bar , at 100 , too Small
true, it was the htc one that screwed, im looking at a mod to disable lock screen altogether though. kept it at 120 and did the 5 columns and 5 rows launcher pro mod.
You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware
LOL , Yeah We know LCD Density is just about "Feel-Good-Factor"
beardyone said:
i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set
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hi
Thanks for that
It works perfect, 110 is the best for me looks ok beter then 120
HCDR.Jacob said:
You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware
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i seeeeeee. i read the full disclaimer now on the lcddensity app and it does say it 'virtually' changes resolution or something similar. it was something new to try anyway, and it looks good i have had the phone for 3 weeks now and i dont think there has been a single night where i havent had it in my hands flashing roms and trying apps.
Oh well. So no other way to make resolution high?
Resolution Can't Increased Without a hardware Upgrade , So No Can Do.
110 seems to look best on the wildfire ... at least for me

s-amoled color saturation

Hi.
I was wondering (and when I say this I mean I started to play Modern Combat 2 and my eyes started bleeding from all that burning green), if it is possible to install a custom display driver on the galaxy S to reduce the saturation of colors. Don't get me wrong, I love the strong contrast but the saturation is just waaaay to much, beyond anything realistic.
I saw the voodoo app that can tweak the colors of the display, however it cannot do anything about the powerfull colors.
try galaxy tuner
Finally!!!!! Thanks!
Had to set both values to 15 for it to look like my friends' galaxy s color
Now it looks much better
Well I did try it, but It's not the color balance that's the problem, it's the saturation. I think there should be an app that normalizes the value between r, g & b pixels so on a certain color the difference is x % less that what the application sends to the driver, yet retaining the average value.
Or something, I don't know exactly how it should work but I figured out it would be like this.
Thing is everything looks like a cartoon with the drfault settings, compare a game from iphone with same one on the galaxy. The difference is huge, and not in a good way for galaxy. I think maybe samsung exagerated in the implementation of the displaye so people were amazed by the vivid colors, but for me (as a photographer & visual artist) is just bad.
For who is interested I've done an App called "ColorModeChanger" to correct saturation and change color values as you want.
Please Google for it or join my Google+ Community at: https://plus.google.com/communities/115325924116611951925
Cyanogenmod is the solution
i'm sure cyanogenmod have those screen adjustements!!! just search

320Dpi to 240Dpi

so my note has 320dpi native, what happens when i change it to 240dpi?
are there any advantages?Disadvantages?
This is being discussed on a separate thread, bit I think it is a good idea for a thread of its own.
I tried it, and the screen is much larger. That means most things in the screen are much smaller. It appears to make most launchers smoother as well.
I find it too small for my tired old eyes, but if your sight is good, I think it is a marvellous idea. It basically becomes a miniature tablet, and most apps seem to take advantage of that.
The stock phone dialer seems to be one of the very few TW apps that does not resize. TW also does not allow more cols and rows (IIRC), so it would be best to use another launcher, and perhaps Go Dialer.
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Actually the thread is here, so this is a duplicate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487309
you see more stuff in most apps for example in settings you see more options at once. most launchers do ok as long as you adjust rows columns although sometimes widgets look weird
i run darkyrom at 240dpi only. nothing is to small for me to read and everything but s-memo seems to work perfectly *you get some weird lines, just color over it with a white and go on with drawing .
i run adw ex launcher with 10x10 homescreen layout and 7 icon dockbar.
It´s so EASY!
It´s easy: Everbody who is interested in this, should definitly give it a shot. Get DPI Changer from the market for free and try it out yourself. There es nothing (again: nothing!) that will happen to your phone, you are always able to go back to 320 again without ANY issues.
The only one thing everbody has to do before is to install another launcher (I can fully recommend Go Launcher (ex), IMAO it´s the smoothest for our Gnote) just for that one reason: Damned TouchWiz doesn´t scale correctly.
Try it out folks, deside for yourself, it´s worth it!
just modify the build.prop density to 240. The default 320 is too big and it pains the eye after many usages!
there are a couple ways of doing it
the 2 above and also an app called "Rom Toolbox" which i recommend more then the others because it also gives you alot more options for different things other then DPI aswell.
Can someone upload 2 screenshots with both resolution please?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
The biggest advantage is that you can see more in the screen. Especially useful with context menu, browser, various apps and so on.
First 240 Dpi images
Images for 320
Thanks drgopoos... 240 looks more like a phone, and 320 looks more like a mini tablet... One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
i thought that 240 dpi is kinda crap but now changed from 320 to 240dpi and im enjoying it, looks so cool and more comfortable ;D
big samm said:
One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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It means that the screen has less physical pixels per inch, so it can be same resolution as a smaller screen that has bigger ppi.
Which means that even tho u have less ppi on the gnote, you still have more resolution than the other phones cause of the size of the gnote's screen.
Ppl say dpi for screens but the correct term is indeed ppi. dpi is for printers.
Does the CriskeloRom can also change to DPI or not ? need depend on the launcher or not ?

What is the best DPI for our Note

Hi folks!
I was just wondering what is the best DPI settings for our note without hindering usability.
I would like a general opinion.
320dpi fanboys not welcome!
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i run gingerbread at 240dpi, and ICS alpha at 213dpi
seem to be the best ones for each android version
160dpi on GB and well on ICS makes everything a little bit to small
240dpi is perfect due to 90% of phones being stock at this.
*s-memo does mess up on any dpi not 320dpi so remember that
213dpi on ICS brings out full tablet mode but keeps the screen readable
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Yeah it's a Galaxy Note, are you jealous?
deymayor said:
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Here we go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423795
And keep this in mind:
KNOWN BUGS
Bluetooth is unstable. Don't rely on it just yet
Battery Usage doesn't work.
MTP Mode does not work. You need to push/pull files via adb
Camera doesn't work. Will be that way until we can get our hands on a ICS
leak for the Galaxy Note
Best regards
[bs]
I've set mine to 240, and loving it. I think it's the best setup for usability and aesthetic for the Gnote. I don't think I would ever go back to the default DPI after switching it to 240.
240
From my experience 240 is by far the best. It is too small for me, but I have poor eyesight (one of the main reasons for buying the Note). For most people it should be fairly easy to adjust too, I would think.
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
cswithxda said:
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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LCD Density Modder
240 dpi the best
cswithxda said:
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.birdapi.android.dpi
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Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
cswithxda said:
Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
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320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
Yeah 240dpi is pretty awesome so much screen to work with. Only problem is my eyes are kinda bad but I still love it regardless.
Sent from my Galaxy Note GT-N7000
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
EdgaBimbam said:
320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
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Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
cswithxda said:
Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
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There are so many advantages to rooting. Imagine running your very own Windows PC without admin rights? That what carriers, and even vendors like Samsung, are trying to force on us. It's BS.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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And the point is?
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The point is that using a correct term to name something is sometimes not bad at all
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Even though lowering the "virtual density" to 240 will allow for more real estate on the display, I am not totally sure that the need to consult an ophalmologist won't increase likewise after that.
It is looking good when you take a snapshot though.
jaiiscool said:
And the point is?
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It was just a comment, maybe not the best place for it but the point is just to try and clear up some of the confusion that sometimes happens when ppl dive into the actual DPI meaning.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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Nah, i think we'll continue with the term "DPI" (Dots Per Inch) But you're right, there's a huge difference between DPI and PPI, but that's not the case since no one has used the term "PPI" here.

Samsung - please revisit your default lcd_density in future phones

I've come to expect the default lcd_density of the Note line to be set far too high based on the resolution of the screen. I had assumed it was b/c of Google's design constraints that all phones of certain resolutions must have the same density to allow apps and such to render identically, though the physical size of objects would be smaller or larger depending of the size of the screen.
This was why the 1080p S4, S5, and Note 3 all running a lcd_density of 480 would show the same amount of content on the screen. Everything would just be larger on the Note 3 as it was a 5.7" screen. The Note 4 with a 1440p screen and lcd_density of 640 ends up basically having the same amount of content on screen as those phones as well (same as the LG G3). So rooting and changing this in build.prop has become a standard task for many of us.
However the Nexus 6 has a non-traditional lcd_density of 560 while having a 6" 1440p screen. Google obviously realized that using 640 would result in even more cartoonishly large icons and such on a 6" screen. However they went outside their own standardized guidelines in doing so, which should empower OEMs to do the same.
1. 560 is a good compromise IMO for most users on a 1440p screen that is 5.5" or larger. Personally I prefer 480 on the Note 4, but I understand that might make objects too small for many users. 560 on the Note 4 I think is the right stock lcd_density to balance out amount of content on the screen and size of the content.
2. The Note 3 should probably be 420 stock (vs 480), though the S4/S5 are probably fine at 480 due to their smaller screens.
Samsung - as the phablet leader, please balance out screen resolution and lcd_density on your larger screens to provide the best user experience. Before the Nexus 6, only Apple took special care in doing so when moving to larger phones. The 6+ is a good example where they didn't just make everything bigger, but also allowed more content to be viewed on the screen.
are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
That was one of the first things I changed when I rooted mine, 480 is a real decent setting to use.
bala_gamer said:
are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
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Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
pikul said:
How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
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Most people who change their dpi use App Settings xposed mod to set the Samsung stock apps to 640. However this is b/c Samsung seems to hard code their designs. When I changed the lcd_density on the OnePlus One, all the stock apps just adjusted seamlessly, the same way Chrome or other apps do. Dialer, camera, etc all adjusted dynamically.
dawheat said:
Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
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wow.. google released nexus 6 with 560 dpi !!! wth.. atleast all their apps are multi dpi capable.
Samsung stock apps like dialer, camera, launcher and a few go crazy mostly because samsung dont have similar code across all their devices, hope that changes with lollipop release. From what i have noted on all the lollipop videos released so far the UI is far more consistent across s4, n3 ,s5 and note 4., this might open up proper scaling of stock apps for note 4 users @ 480 DPI
Yes, same complaint ! It is unthinkable to have the same working area as S4 , then why did we get a larger phone? To have a zoomed interface because Samsung realised that we don't have good eyes:silly: Now in all seriousness, why most and greatest Rom developers (8 out of 10) don't build a Multi-DPI Rom? Is it because of compatibility-performance issues? The interest on MULTI-DPI should have been exactly the opposite, it makes me think that most people get a Note phone only for Multimedia purposes.
Can only agree, using the Note 4 with its blown up interface feels like a toy after using the iPhone 6 plus with optimised apps and interface that uses the big screen better. And then they say that the plus is just a big iPhone. But it uses its big screen much better than my note in most of cases. Perhaps somewhere the notes big screen is used better but I can't remember seeing it using my note

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