[Q] New Roots... - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I rooted my Froyo Captivate today, I've never rooted a smartphone before, and I'm loving it. I got rid of all the AT&T garbage and to my surprise my phone actually seems somewhat snappier. I'm looking forward to using tethering and side-loading apps, but I have a newbie question about root access on the phone. Normally under Windows and Linux a user would not want to stay rooted all the time. Is that different on Android? Is it ok to just stay rooted all day long? So far what I've done is use Super One Click to root, installed Titanium Backup, removed the crap from AT&T, then unrooted the phone. Everything seems to be working beautifully except that Ti needs root.
How does everyone else handle this? Just root when you need to use Ti or some other app? I also deactivated the Market filter AT&T put on, so does that stick when not in root?
Thanks for the feedback.

You can stay rooted. Anything that needs root permissions will ask for it when it needs it.
The differance being that you don't have to open up a terminal and type su blah blah. You just hit ok when asked. OR NOT
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leave root access there. it doesnt mean you are running everything as root

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[Q] General rooting questions.

Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.
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I would like to know this as well.
stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.
Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete
Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
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Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.
gotcha! thank you

[Q] z4root?

Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.
I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.
It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
Rapax said:
My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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It's the only reason I rooted this thing.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
Router thanks. Good informations.
I would like to root my SGT because I need CIFS access to my network share directories, in my Windows network. I found some prgs in the Market, but they need 'root rights'. So here I am. I will use this root app.
A question for you (you seem experienced) about the correct procedure to reinstall apps already installed after a root procedure:
1. Do an AppBrain Syncronize
2. Launch Root (Z4root)
3. Install the AppBrain app again and then connect to my AppBrain account to 'restore' apps?
Is it correct my idea?
that is correct, its not like the root we do when rooting and android phone like my evo, you can actuall run the z4root the run and install that program
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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...and Droid Wall, to prevent applications from accessing the web "unnecessarily"
that was easy and painless. nice, full root
I've found that I loose root occasionally, any idea why?
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Seems to work.
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Router said:
from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
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Well, for starters I'd like to get rid of the very annoying vodafone booting / shutting down images.
If I could also remove some pre-installed apps, that'd be nice too ^^
recovery
Does this root give a recovery image?
kevinniven said:
Does this root give a recovery image?
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No. As far as I'm aware we don't have a recovery image.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
sts_fin said:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
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When you ran OCLF, what was the amount of RAM you selected, I think by default it shows somewhere around 846 odd..
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.

[Q] 2.2.2 OTA and root, where did I go wrong?

Hey guys, I'm definitely a novice in these matters, but this is the first time I've had a problem so I'd appreciate some help.
While my Droid was on FRG83D I rooted with SuperOneClick using rageagainstthecage. I had to install PdaNet to get it to work, but it did work for me. This morning I got the OTA update for FRG83G and downloaded and installed it just a few minutes ago.
I didn't unroot my phone before I did this.
Afterwards the two apps I use that require su won't work (Barnacle and ROM Manager for backups, I don't have a custom ROM flashed to my phone yet) so I ran SuperOneClick again, ran root using psneuter. Still didn't work so I unrooted using psneuter. Then I realized that I should probably unroot using rageagainstthecage and did so. So at this point (theoretically) my phone was unrooted. Then I ran root with rageagainstthecage again and my two apps still won't work.
Every time I rooted or unrooted using either method SuperOneClick worked seemingly perfectly.
So here's my question: What did I do wrong? And just as importantly, how do I fix it so I can have root access on my phone again?
*Edit* Well this is pretty embarrassing. I just rebooted my phone and tried Barnacle again, and the su acceptance box came up like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm back to being rooted. I think I'll leave this here, and if anyone has any constructive criticism of my (lack of) process or comments about why things acted the way they did and why it works now I'd like to hear it. I'm all about learning more about all of this.

[Q] Newbie with some questions

Hey all,
A few months ago I had a friend flash my phone to the leaed/cracked/amazing version of Froyo before samsung released their current version
I am currently running I897UCJI6.
I have been happy with this build for quite some time as it allows me to tether my wifes iPad via the mobile AP while we are in the car driving etc.
I now want to root my phone so that I can remove some bloatware and get into the nerd **** and get rid of ATT bloatware.
I tired a few of the walkthroughs here, but I am getting the E:couldnot validate permission error that a few people posted.
I need some help/suggestions
Do I:
1 go back to stock using the Odin 1 touch - if I do this where can i get the build i currently have as it appears to have disappeared like a virgin on prom night (or my searching skills suck as bad as my spelling)
2.) beg and plead and pray that there is a way to root my phone in 2.2
dear god im a failure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I have the super user app, but titanium backup wont let me in says im not rooted... help?
open super user app. What does it show inside of it? The app is used to grant programs root privileges. If your attempt to root was successful you may have to grant titanium access to root privileges. Also titanium requires usb debugging to be enabled and , busybox to be installed. USB debug is located under setting/applications/development. You can get busybox from the market open app and install.
Side note though, why would you still be using a 4-5 month old lek when your phone has an official release? Just wondering

[Q] Losing Root

Has anyone had problems with their Moto X losing root? Maybe like every 2 or 3 days my phone loses its root access. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason on why it does. If i reboot my phone, my root access is back and works fine for the next few days and then its gone again until another reboot. Its so weird. It doesn't matter which app that I run. I'm running kitkat now. I had no problems rooting it. I don't recall having the problem when I was running on 4.2
No issues here, I've been rooted and stable for a few months now.
The only time I ever lost root on a phone was when I installed Airwatch for corporate email and apps and stuff. I didn't -know- I was losing root or I never would have done it. Strangely everything that was previously granted SU access worked, but any new requests were not processed.
Have you installed any apps or changed anything else in your system? What method did you use to root?
Is SuperSU just being removed, or it stops working? Sounds strange for sure.
It sounds like you're having the same problem I had, I could be wrong though. Here's the thread I created, give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558916
Turbocom said:
It sounds like you're having the same problem I had, I could be wrong though. Here's the thread I created, give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558916
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This seems to make sense. I would bet that most people that root are also running MotoWPNoMo (or whatever it is..) as well because things like Xposed and other apps that install as system apps won't work without this, or booting through recovery as described.
I ran it right away because Xposed wouldn't work, and haven't had any issues.
You're not losing root... The issue is that JCase's rooting method uses an exploit to disable write protection, and sometimes the write protection comes back.
If you're on 4.2.2, just run MotoWpNoMo from this thread - > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551113
I don't have any crazy apps or new frameworks installed. That motowpnomo is that for KitKat or 4.2.2?
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