[Q] When 4g comes out for Captivate will we have to get new phones? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can we just flash the LTE Modem or will we have to get new phones?

our phones do not have the required hardware to go 4g. i could be wrong but i doubt it. but who cares, by the time at&t actually gets a real 4g, we should all be ready to upgrade.

LTE and HSPA are different. As long as HSPA is pushed then we can go to the max of the phones hardware.
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Another amazing post. They walk among us.

Was your old EDGE speed phone capable of getting 3G speeds? X-(
Of course ypur going to need a new phone with a 4G sim card.
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What are the max speeds on HSDPA/HSUPA? And just how much are we going to miss?
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Miami if you're not going to be helpful in Q/A then why post?
For 3G/4G you need to talk tech not blanket terms it would be easier to know what exactly you are asking.
HSPA+ LTE are the competeing tech one being a new tech (LTE) and one being an advancement of current tech (HSPA+).
Captivates can do um 7M using HSPA (double check gsm arena or the wiki or the manual for the numbers) so any upgrade to the network the device will top out at the max speed the device can support.
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Max speeds for HSPA are theoretical. TMO said they would push it up to and over the 50M level while currently upgrades to networks have it at 14-21M though because of the way it works you will not get those speeds real world.
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Miami if you're not going to be helpful in Q/A then why post?
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Just pointing out the obvious.

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4G

Does anyone no the date when at&t acctually gets 4G I'm tired of waiting I have a 4G phone but don't get 4G what the heck
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I doubt it 'cept the corporate AT&T people. They seem to be rolling them out 3-4 cities a year. So who knows. In OKC, it might be 3 months from now or 20 years from now.
The Thrill is not a LTE phone. The Thrill will never get LTE speeds. The 4G for the Thrill is HSPA+. The reason people call it faux G is that its not that much better than 3G. Check the coverage map online, you may already be getting 4G speed (according to att), and not know it. I saw an increase from my captivate to the Thrill, about 50% increase, but not enough to actually notice on a daily basis.
Att announced today their first LTE phones, skyrocket and vivid.
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I get 4g in Atlanta !
JKshowman said:
I get 4g in Atlanta !
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You mean LTE? with thrill?
elfie said:
You mean LTE? with thrill?
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...that would be impossible.
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I get 4g in Atlanta
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how much download and upload speed do you get? it is posible he might get better speed than us he will not get lte speed but better H+ speed
Download 1.50 mbps upload 0.17 mbps
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Thats too sloow I get download 4mbps 1.5 mbps and I dont even have 4g
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Well that's a bunch of BS why don't I get good speed
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I get 4.5MB download and 2MG upload here in Omaha
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I hit between 6-7mb down and about 1mb up here in southern California.
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Yea just got infuse and hit 6-7mb down 1.5 up. Loving the speeds
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I'm in omaha NE too I checked with at&t they said they dont have h+ yet in omaha but we get better speed 1.5up 4 down
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I'm going to have a talk with att now and ask if I will ever get faster speeds
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I'm from SLC,UT where I get 5mb down on a good day in a good location. I went to Phoenix for business and got 7mb down on one occasion.
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I'm going to have a talk with att now and ask if I will ever get faster speeds
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When you got the phone, did you just put the old sim card in from your old phone? That is what the at&t store did when I bought mine and I was not getting very good speeds. Went to the store around the corner from me and they replaced my old sim with one that said '4g' on it and the Rep said something about not getting hspa+ on the older Sims. Not sure about his reasoning, but I do get anywhere between 4-8mb down now. I can never seem to get over 1.08 up speeds though. It acts like there's a cap on it the way it is so consistent.
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Mad383Max said:
When you got the phone, did you just put the old sim card in from your old phone? That is what the at&t store did when I bought mine and I was not getting very good speeds. Went to the store around the corner from me and they replaced my old sim with one that said '4g' on it and the Rep said something about not getting hspa+ on the older Sims. Not sure about his reasoning, but I do get anywhere between 4-8mb down now. I can never seem to get over 1.08 up speeds though. It acts like there's a cap on it the way it is so consistent.
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Does your sim actually say 4g on it? I have a 4g chip at least they said I do, but it doesn't say 4g.
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kleeman7 said:
Does your sim actually say 4g on it? I have a 4g chip at least they said I do, but it doesn't say 4g.
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Just pulled it out and checked it. Plain AT&T sim. The one initially put in here was from my LG eXpo and came from my Incite from 2009. The Rep said that it needed a '4g' sim to actually get the speed. So he put a new one in. Can't complain as it worked.
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I think I have the same one, lol. Was just mashing sure it didn't say 4g because they told me it was a 4g chip.
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Q: T-Mobile speedtest

Hello,
I am going to buy an international note.. what are its speeds for web browsing..
Speed test pics would be appreciated and videos
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anyone have speed test pics??
It would really help me out.. I don't know if I should spend 700 on the pink note. If I'm gonna have super crappy internet
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Well the speed for web browsing is really fast on HSDPA+ (The highest one that you can get here in europe)
Found a speedtest on a german android forum.
http://fs01.androidpit.info/userfiles/411957/image/galaxy note 749.png
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Remember, that's not the highest value. HSDPA+ can reach up to 21,1 Mbit/s here.
This was with an international note?
But idk if it be the same for T-Mobile since were on 1700mhz
If 9mbps was reached there.. hopefully here as well
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Bigv69er said:
This was with an international note?
But idk if it be the same for T-Mobile since were on 1700mhz
If 9mbps was reached there.. hopefully here as well
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Found this site:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ga...at-t-galaxy-note-which-one-do-you-prefer/5698
It says:
Cons of the GT-N7000:
No support for LTE in the USA
No support for T-Mobile 3G data
No NFC radio
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So there is no 3G data (and upper I assume) available with the International Note. Any reasons for not taking the AT&T Note SGH-I717 instead?
So what were those speeds lol.. I gotta see some speedtests of someone using it on tmobile
Idc I'd get the att one.. but too overpriced .. if ima pay a lot for the phone I'm going to buy what I really want. And that is the Pink Note
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Bigv69er said:
So what were those speeds lol.. I gotta see some speedtests of someone using it on tmobile
Idc I'd get the att one.. but too overpriced .. if ima pay a lot for the phone I'm going to buy what I really want. And that is the Pink Note
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The only video I found is that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXXpmMrxq4
But it actually shows the speed depending on his new radio.
All others were using AT&T on the Galaxy Note... Could even find a picture.
Also just read that you are able to use >3g, sorry for misleading informations.
lol so complicated as we don't have 4g here.
The video is an art note lol
I need international.. hahah. The pink note is international
Thanks though!
And what wait I'm confused 3g on what? International or att?
I know art can be flashed to work with tmobile
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Bigv69er said:
The video is an art note lol
I need international.. hahah. The pink note is international
Thanks though!
And what wait I'm confused 3g on what? International or att?
I know art can be flashed to work with tmobile
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Oh really? Damn, thought it was the right one Well next time i only have to take a closer look.
Yes, you're right it can be flashed to work with tmobile.
Well the site that I've posted before says that international note doesn't support lte or tmobile 3g data. Only the AT&T (as said you have to enable tmobile data manually)
Yeah.. but no pink note lol
My search will continue lol
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I Found this..
no speedtest but the web browsing speed seems pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR8BrBM8nLo
So buy a pink case or those sticker covers and you can make it pink. I'd rather have a fully functional device than a colored device. That is only if you need the speed. if not pink it up! Where I live I only get 3G. Not hspa+, when I go downtown I get hspa+ so it's not worth it for me nor a deal breaker.
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I use an n7000 on tmo stateside. Its only 2g so speeds are horrible... roughly 100 to 150kbps both up and down. This doesnt really matter to me however, as im in wifi 99% of the time. The 2g works fine for gps, email and mobile versions of websites. But forget about youtube, or full version website surfing. One thing i havent checked is pandora streaming... might work ok.
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I have the international note, and for the most part I get around 256k speeds at best. Depending on where you are located though they have repurposed their 1700 band into their latest hspa+, so if you happen to end up in one of those area data will be really fast. (sorry never ran a speed test with one of those connections) The problem is that is was mainly an experiment and they most likely won't continue not that they are moving to LTE, and the areas with this working are fairly rare.
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I have the international note, and for the most part I get around 256k speeds at best. Depending on where you are located though they have repurposed their 1700 band into their latest hspa+, so if you happen to end up in one of those area data will be really fast. (sorry never ran a speed test with one of those connections) The problem is that is was mainly an experiment and they most likely won't continue not that they are moving to LTE, and the areas with this working are fairly rare.
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Well tmo is currently experimenting with the new base and 1900 for 4g.. said to start releasing it this summer slowly.
If they do, these phones will get waaay better speed.
Thank you everybody.. and yeah I'm on wifi about 50% of the time.. and mostly on fb or sometimes YouTube when I'm not.
And no I don't want a vinyl. Or a case. Not the same thing. Plus I heard att one doesn't even get that great of speeds
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Bigv69er said:
Well tmo is currently experimenting with the new base and 1900 for 4g.. said to start releasing it this summer slowly.
If they do, these phones will get waaay better speed.
Thank you everybody.. and yeah I'm on wifi about 50% of the time.. and mostly on fb or sometimes YouTube when I'm not.
And no I don't want a vinyl. Or a case. Not the same thing. Plus I heard att one doesn't even get that great of speeds
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You'll get Edge on tmobile. Which is supposedly 635 kbps download
85 kbps upload.
You'll probably see around 100kbps up/down.
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You'll get Edge on tmobile. Which is supposedly 635 kbps download
85 kbps upload.
You'll probably see around 100kbps up/down.
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damn that's weak
Good thing I'm always near wifi like 60% of the time
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Thrill ICS 4G ???

We now have 4G lte service in my area. Well at least on my wife's Samsung Galaxy III. After updating my Thrill to ICS I now have a 4G symbol but I definitely do not have 4G performance. Are these phones capable of true 4G LTE or is it only AT&T HSPA+?
I'm rooted so I can make some manual tweaks if necessary. I noticed a throttle value in the settings.db. What should that value be for the best performance?
Thanks
Reading an old review of the phone on a site,it said the thrill 4g was not a true lte phone. Not sure if it's the hardware or the software. Good luck! What are you getting from speed test app?
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Yeah.. I did some digging and it's not a LTE capable phone. I was hoping it was software based. AT&T official response was. It's a 4G phone that's not capable of 4G speeds. ??? Figure that one out..
My speed:
4 down and almost 1 up. Latency and jitter are 218 and 70ms. This seems to have gotten worse since the tower went to 4G.
My wifes phone:
18 down and 10 up. I expect this to get throttled at some point. Seems too good to be true. Her latency and jitter on the other hand is 70 and 12ms. Thought this should be better.
Here is mine
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pete3000 said:
Here is mine
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that is some impressive data speed i swear i only hit that high once
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We now have 4G lte service in my area. Well at least on my wife's Samsung Galaxy III. After updating my Thrill to ICS I now have a 4G symbol but I definitely do not have 4G performance. Are these phones capable of true 4G LTE or is it only AT&T HSPA+?
I'm rooted so I can make some manual tweaks if necessary. I noticed a throttle value in the settings.db. What should that value be for the best performance?
Thanks
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What you're getting is 4G HSPA+, I've only heard it be rumoured that the Thrill is capable of 4G LTE. Only in specific areas though.
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Here is mine
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What's that weather icon in the Status Bar?
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the weather icon is the the Wunderground app. i use it because it uses several weather station around my rural area to give me temps rather then interpolate from the bigger cities.
Look up the specs online for lg thrill. It only has an hspa+ radio in it. Think 24+ no LTE.
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I hit this on XBSAVR3D based on Rogers V30C. Using the V30C baseband I hit almost 9mb down and almost 2mb up! That being said we can't get 4G, and that pretty lil 4G icon they put on our V30B update looks cool but its just eye candy full of lies. ATT said the Thrill is a 4G phone incapable of 4G speeds Didn't think that one through to well did they. Such crap.:thumbdown:
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I'm upgrading to a HTC One. The thrill has lost its thrill.
The thrill is a 4G phone. Just not 4G LTE. It uses HSPA+ which is a sorta 4G. Its a lot faster then 3G but not as fast as LTE.
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I had one of the guys in my office run a Speed test on their newer phones hitting 12mb/sec with their LTE (spiked at 14mb). Honestly , i pay for 6Mbit at home. my phone is still faster.

Verizon 4g lte on Sprint!?

I know this doesn't sound possible hell I Dont believe it myself but I am in LittleRock Arkansas where Sprint has NO 4g, I'm up here at work bored so I flash the 1000 Verizon prl, I unlock my SIM card (don't think that mattered , I didn't put a SIM card in). I forced roaming on my phone and I about had a heart attack when the 4g showed in my notification bar!! I thought it may be wrong but I ran some speed test with and without it. The catch is I lost voice. How is this possible?
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When u get it again go to the 4g settings it should tell u some info
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Highly doubt it... Verizon is operating LTE on 700 mhz (the latest article I saw was that in 2015 they will plan to shift some EVDO to LTE on 1900). The Sprint HTC One only supports LTE on 1900.
Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
The n.ispsn is something new also.
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Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
4G Verizon Wireless 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz (Planned)
It is physically impossible for the Sprint HTC One to use Verizon LTE... The Sprint HTC One doesn't even have a radio chip for 700 mhz, let alone LTE on 800 mhz.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
Verizon currently operates its LTE network exclusively on Band 13 (in the 700MHz range), a band it controls nationwide.
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-device-support-aws-lte-approved-fcc/2013-01-03
Verizon has indicated it plans to use AWS spectrum to augment its existing LTE network, which runs on its 700 MHz spectrum.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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i have the same thing on my phone and my prl is 55015
you are connecting to sprint 4g
Come on man....yes ive tried it. I only get 3g when on Spring's PRL. It's also strange that I lost voice when forced roaming.
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Can you link me to that PRL? I'll give it a shot. Sprint has no 4G here so it will be a good test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Force roaming causing 4G detection isn't anything new, actually. If you put the device into LTE mode only, it achieves something similar. The device would much rather stay on Sprint service if at all possible and will take a weak LTE signal if it can (even if it would normally prefer a nearby Sprint tower providing 3G coverage).
The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
Eliminate what's impossible (by hardware) and we have a series of at least possible alternatives.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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Oh, *that* one. I used to use it all the time until it stopped giving me Verizon 3G. Now all I get with it is 1x. I would try it, but I'm running 4.3 now and don't want to nandroid back to a Sense ROM just to confirm that it's not working.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Sprint 4G on initial release in an area or an a tower is very wonky. It's off and on, slow and only works at a short range. Just be patient and you will get it really soon. They just activated it in a couple areas where I live also. They tend to put them near Sprint Corp stores.
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The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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Why is it unbelievable that Sprint is bringing 4g to Arkansas... They HAVE TO do the NV update on every single tower that broadcasts Sprint Signal. It is cheap as dirt to just add the LTE hardware into the NV station once the NV upgrade is completed. This is a nation wide requirement since they are about to do some wonky ass things on the 1900 MHz PCS bands (when they start to reallocate their allowed bandwidth to different techs, it is an across the board FCC license).
I'm from Arkansas too and have been keeping up with the 4G there because that's where I travel to every chance I get. Jonesboro has sprint lte and it's been planned for little rock and Fayetteville to get it for months. It was only a matter of which day. I'm surprised it took them this long. But it was expected. I'm so happy to hear this wonderful news
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Sprint Spark to be released on Nov 8th!

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/sprint-spark-enhanced-lte/
Does anyone know if our phone will support this updated network?
Just kinda wish they would put their focus into getting LTE into all markets first....there are a lot of people that have been patiently waiting to use LTE on their LTE devices that pay a pretty penny for!
Our phone isn't compatible
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I think at this point Sprint can kiss my ass. Total BS that their focus isn't on LTE.
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This is part of the lte focus. You can't get 60mbps over 3g.
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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exactly...this is all part of network vision....they just added a name to it....with all the growing pains they're going through right now, it will be awesome once they're done.
I read somewhere that there MAY be a firmware update to enable this for us....is that true? I assumed that if the One Maxx is running the same hardware then the radios should be the same too
Not true. Our phone doesn't support Lte on 800 or 2600 so no spark on this phone.
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How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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tommason1968 said:
How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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4 - HTC One max, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy Mega™ and Samsung Galaxy S® 4 mini.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-band-capable-smartphones-arrive-on-nov-8.htm
I love new technology & spark looks pretty cool, but all I see them talk about is data.....what about voice? Will the tri-band phones improve w/ voice usage? I don't use voice all that much, but when I do it usually sux @ss.

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