I know this doesn't sound possible hell I Dont believe it myself but I am in LittleRock Arkansas where Sprint has NO 4g, I'm up here at work bored so I flash the 1000 Verizon prl, I unlock my SIM card (don't think that mattered , I didn't put a SIM card in). I forced roaming on my phone and I about had a heart attack when the 4g showed in my notification bar!! I thought it may be wrong but I ran some speed test with and without it. The catch is I lost voice. How is this possible?
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When u get it again go to the 4g settings it should tell u some info
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Highly doubt it... Verizon is operating LTE on 700 mhz (the latest article I saw was that in 2015 they will plan to shift some EVDO to LTE on 1900). The Sprint HTC One only supports LTE on 1900.
Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
The n.ispsn is something new also.
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Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
4G Verizon Wireless 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz (Planned)
It is physically impossible for the Sprint HTC One to use Verizon LTE... The Sprint HTC One doesn't even have a radio chip for 700 mhz, let alone LTE on 800 mhz.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
Verizon currently operates its LTE network exclusively on Band 13 (in the 700MHz range), a band it controls nationwide.
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-device-support-aws-lte-approved-fcc/2013-01-03
Verizon has indicated it plans to use AWS spectrum to augment its existing LTE network, which runs on its 700 MHz spectrum.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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i have the same thing on my phone and my prl is 55015
you are connecting to sprint 4g
Come on man....yes ive tried it. I only get 3g when on Spring's PRL. It's also strange that I lost voice when forced roaming.
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Can you link me to that PRL? I'll give it a shot. Sprint has no 4G here so it will be a good test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Force roaming causing 4G detection isn't anything new, actually. If you put the device into LTE mode only, it achieves something similar. The device would much rather stay on Sprint service if at all possible and will take a weak LTE signal if it can (even if it would normally prefer a nearby Sprint tower providing 3G coverage).
The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
Eliminate what's impossible (by hardware) and we have a series of at least possible alternatives.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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Oh, *that* one. I used to use it all the time until it stopped giving me Verizon 3G. Now all I get with it is 1x. I would try it, but I'm running 4.3 now and don't want to nandroid back to a Sense ROM just to confirm that it's not working.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Sprint 4G on initial release in an area or an a tower is very wonky. It's off and on, slow and only works at a short range. Just be patient and you will get it really soon. They just activated it in a couple areas where I live also. They tend to put them near Sprint Corp stores.
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The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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Why is it unbelievable that Sprint is bringing 4g to Arkansas... They HAVE TO do the NV update on every single tower that broadcasts Sprint Signal. It is cheap as dirt to just add the LTE hardware into the NV station once the NV upgrade is completed. This is a nation wide requirement since they are about to do some wonky ass things on the 1900 MHz PCS bands (when they start to reallocate their allowed bandwidth to different techs, it is an across the board FCC license).
I'm from Arkansas too and have been keeping up with the 4G there because that's where I travel to every chance I get. Jonesboro has sprint lte and it's been planned for little rock and Fayetteville to get it for months. It was only a matter of which day. I'm surprised it took them this long. But it was expected. I'm so happy to hear this wonderful news
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Can we just flash the LTE Modem or will we have to get new phones?
our phones do not have the required hardware to go 4g. i could be wrong but i doubt it. but who cares, by the time at&t actually gets a real 4g, we should all be ready to upgrade.
LTE and HSPA are different. As long as HSPA is pushed then we can go to the max of the phones hardware.
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Another amazing post. They walk among us.
Was your old EDGE speed phone capable of getting 3G speeds? X-(
Of course ypur going to need a new phone with a 4G sim card.
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What are the max speeds on HSDPA/HSUPA? And just how much are we going to miss?
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Miami if you're not going to be helpful in Q/A then why post?
For 3G/4G you need to talk tech not blanket terms it would be easier to know what exactly you are asking.
HSPA+ LTE are the competeing tech one being a new tech (LTE) and one being an advancement of current tech (HSPA+).
Captivates can do um 7M using HSPA (double check gsm arena or the wiki or the manual for the numbers) so any upgrade to the network the device will top out at the max speed the device can support.
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Max speeds for HSPA are theoretical. TMO said they would push it up to and over the 50M level while currently upgrades to networks have it at 14-21M though because of the way it works you will not get those speeds real world.
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Miami if you're not going to be helpful in Q/A then why post?
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Just pointing out the obvious.
http://m.t-mobilescoop.com/gameon?c.../nivnCjCm4mCjC-aaj4wyTwyjWwfcByLjGF5yBMwFwEfl
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I wonder what the investment is, more towers?
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How unfortunate
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this come out a few months back, was the only reason I switched to the Amaze when my mT4G died instead of going somewhere else.
Their investing in bringing LTE and the 1900 AWS band to the network, the 1900 band should be here by the end of the year, therefore encouraging iphone users and other 1900 band compatible devices, such as just about every international device out there and LTE, well that is pretty obvious why.
I logged in online yesterday and a pop up about this came up. So retarded.
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How unfortunate
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Why is it?
My fiance got a text from TMobile the other day about how the merger is off and they'll be upgrading their LTE. Funny they sent out texts, I never got one.
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My fiance got a text from TMobile the other day about how the merger is off and they'll be upgrading their LTE. Funny they sent out texts, I never got one.
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I got one of those as well.
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I got one of those as well.
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Weird they didn't send it to everyone...silly TMobile.
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Does this mean better service for us? The LTE ? and more towers and signal?
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Im confused. They announced the merger was dead months ago. Why is this news now?
Been wondering the same.
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Im confused. They announced the merger was dead months ago. Why is this news now?
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Maybe some people didn't know. You know, the ones that don't listen to the news, read any newspapers, blogs, anything.. I know t-mobile subs use more data than every other carrier in the states but apparently its cause we're watching netflix and hulu on our smartphones. lmao
It's new because they're trying to reassure customers that they're working on getting they're service to it's peak, better signal, faster data speeds and also by implementing the 1900 band enabling customers who want the iPhone to be able to use it and get 3G/HSPA speeds with data, after all they lost a lot of customers when they slacked off during the merger period. They're trying to win those back and insure that they keep all others that are currently still with them.
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It's new because they're trying to reassure customers that they're working on getting they're service to it's peak, better signal, faster data speeds and also by implementing the 1900 band enabling customers who want the iPhone to be able to use it and get 3G/HSPA speeds with data, after all they lost a lot of customers when they slacked off during the merger period. They're trying to win those back and insure that they keep all others that are currently still with them.
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does enabling that band also improve service in areas where its crap? i only get 2g
(probably going to at&t soon with my amaze)
ziggy46 said:
does enabling that band also improve service in areas where its crap? i only get 2g
(probably going to at&t soon with my amaze)
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Na, think they're building new towers for that, adding LTE infrastructure to the current network as well, that new band is to enable other devices such as international and devices from networks like AT&T to work on their 3G/HSPA and soon LTE network, hence no more 2G only on iPhones anymore.
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Why is it?
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Better service, more phones all my friends have at&t and they have service everywhere even in school
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I got one of those as well.
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i've received 2 of those lol
And this is new news? Strange....
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I haven't seen anyone else ask so I shall do so. lol
I know it is capable of recieving the signal, but I'm asking for those of us with LTE who want to force an HSPA+ signal to save on battery, keep the device from heating up so much, etc.
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You can download phone info from the play store and go to phone information and at the bottom there will be a list of modes to use.
This setting will reset when you reboot the phone.
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I haven't seen anyone else ask so I shall do so. lol
I know it is capable of recieving the signal, but I'm asking for those of us with LTE who want to force an HSPA+ signal to save on battery, keep the device from heating up so much, etc.
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From what I've seen, it switches to HSUPA instead of sticking to HSDPA or +.
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From what I've seen, it switches to HSUPA instead of sticking to HSDPA or +.
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I couldnt really figure it out with the phone info app.
And I used to get HSPA+ (10-15mbps) fine on it before I got an actual micro sim. But they made me switch my data to lte at the at&t store. That's AT&T for ya though.
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I couldnt really figure it out with the phone info app.
And I used to get HSPA+ (10-15mbps) fine on it before I got an actual micro sim. But they made me switch my data to lte at the at&t store. That's AT&T for ya though.
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WCDMA Only would be the 3G+. It'll kick over to HSDPA for a couple of seconds then to HSUPA.
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WCDMA Only would be the 3G+. It'll kick over to HSDPA for a couple of seconds then to HSUPA.
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When i try to switch bands my phone always reverts back to LTE
I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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CDMA does not allow for simultaneous voice and data. The GS3 and the Evo 4G LTE and a few others were able to do so only because Qualcomm made something special for them... But for the 600 it does not work sadly. 4G + voice works though. You'll get 4G soon enough :\
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I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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Are you on 4G LTE when trying this?
My one works. But I am in a lte coverage area
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Yep, if on 3g you won't be able to navigate and surf. I'm on a 4g lte area as well so I don't have this problem.
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I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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The S3 and EVO 4G LTE used the Qualcomm MSM8960 which allowed simultaneous Data and Talk via SVDO. This was as mentioned unique to the MSM8960 SoC and is no longer integrated into any Qualcomm SoC and therefore is not available and will not be available on Sprint phones going forward. This has been discussed elsewhere.
You can talk when connected to 4G and Wifi.
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The S3 and EVO 4G LTE used the Qualcomm MSM8960 which allowed simultaneous Data and Talk via SVDO. This was as mentioned unique to the MSM8960 SoC and is no longer integrated into any Qualcomm SoC and therefore is not available and will not be available on Sprint phones going forward. This has been discussed elsewhere.
You can talk when connected to 4G and Wifi.
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Well that makes that chip awesome. I don't know why they wouldn't further implement that feature. Oh well I probably won't be getting 4g for a while (officially). Does sgs4 support this or do you need 4g nowadays.
btw thanks everyone for the responses.
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Well that makes that chip awesome. I don't know why they wouldn't further implement that feature. Oh well I probably won't be getting 4g for a while (officially). Does sgs4 support this or do you need 4g nowadays.
btw thanks everyone for the responses.
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Sprint has said there will not be anymore SVDO phones. I think the idea is LTE for Data and CDMA for voice. Maybe eventually Voice over LTE?
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/sprint-spark-enhanced-lte/
Does anyone know if our phone will support this updated network?
Just kinda wish they would put their focus into getting LTE into all markets first....there are a lot of people that have been patiently waiting to use LTE on their LTE devices that pay a pretty penny for!
Our phone isn't compatible
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I think at this point Sprint can kiss my ass. Total BS that their focus isn't on LTE.
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This is part of the lte focus. You can't get 60mbps over 3g.
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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exactly...this is all part of network vision....they just added a name to it....with all the growing pains they're going through right now, it will be awesome once they're done.
I read somewhere that there MAY be a firmware update to enable this for us....is that true? I assumed that if the One Maxx is running the same hardware then the radios should be the same too
Not true. Our phone doesn't support Lte on 800 or 2600 so no spark on this phone.
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How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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4 - HTC One max, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy Mega™ and Samsung Galaxy S® 4 mini.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-band-capable-smartphones-arrive-on-nov-8.htm
I love new technology & spark looks pretty cool, but all I see them talk about is data.....what about voice? Will the tri-band phones improve w/ voice usage? I don't use voice all that much, but when I do it usually sux @ss.