The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
Nope. It's the same on the Droid 3.
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
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myrandex said:
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
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Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
Tidbits said:
Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
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Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
Reread what I said, and think harder about what I said. Regardless if you can pay or not. It's still locked from the moment you purchased it. You have to wait Months to get an unlock code or pay someone to unlock it for you. Just because Verizon locks you out from using it from other carriers there are way to adjust it. You could always purchase a milestone which is the same thing right?
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Radio bands etc etc
DukeL said:
Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
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Actually, most unlocked AT&T and T-Mobile smartphones won't work on 3G on the other's network. Different bands. Same sort of attempt at locking the phone from being used with other domestic carriers just like Verizon. When the companies pay for an exclusive within the country, they want to do their best to protect their investment and keep it exclusive.
This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
Actually I was referring to the carrier lock that needed to be removed for US bands.
majatt said:
This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
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according to the wikipedia entry it does not support 1800Mhz bands =\ If I'm not mistaken, that's the same as Tmobile in America for UMTS 3G bands
qipengart said:
The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
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DROID 3 - Will my phone work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Will the Droid 3 work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Your phone is designed to be utilized with the pre-installed SIM card. You will need to enable international roaming AND activate your pre-installed SIM card in your phone when traveling outside of the U.S.
The GSM and UMTS bands that are supported in Droid3 Global will not work in the United States. The GSM and UMTS bands are only able to be utilized outside the U.S. A GSM SIM card such as AT&T or T-Mobile will not operate in the U.S.
Contact Verizon Wireless for more information dial *611 from your cell phone or call Verizon Wireless @ 800-922-0204.
Note: GSM and UMTS-based global services work only with SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another non U.S GSM or UMTS service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900/1800 or UMTS 2100 network, you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless.
From Motorola
https://motorola-enterprise.custhel...ing-other-gsm-sim-such-as-at&t-or-t-mobile-in
If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
Regardless of where you buy your phone it will be locked to Verizon. Verizon will provide an unlock code to customers based on certain prerequisites. This code will allow you to use another carrier's sim cards while outside of the US, but you can not use any US based GSM providers.
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If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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xstrike9999 said:
If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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If it has the Droid 3 name (which means it's the Verizon version of the phone), the SIM slot will be locked regardless of where you buy it. Some versions released in other countries (like the XT860 4G in Canada) may or may not be SIM locked. That remains to be seen.
But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
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Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
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I seriously hope so. I messed about with the Droid 3 at the Verizon store and I really liked it. I'd love to be able to use it (or Bell's version) on T-Mobile.
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But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
lbyinchina said:
Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
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But what about unlocking the US based GSM carriers?
And what about the aosp roms?
Is the restriction in the rom, or in the radio file?
There's a CyanogenMod 7 alpha version being developed, and people are reporting that something in its build.prop gives them better gsm reception overseas. Would it also allow a US Droid 3 user to use a US GSM carrier, such as AT&T?
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Since the 12th, I have been trying to find an unlock for the phone, and stumbled upon a seller who goes by Swiftunlocks. He has provided excellent service, and his unlock code for the Droid 3 works 100%. I would recommend his service to anyone who wishes to have their phone unlocked. He charges a fee, but he's also the only one around to unlock phones for people who aren't with Verizon.
If you go on eBay and search this
verizon droid 3 unlock
You can find his services His support was excellent as well because even when out of business hours, he sent me my unlock codes minutes after paying.
But i dont think we can use this phone here in us with gsm even after unlock.
And why shouldn't GSM work after an unlock in the USA, you think?
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And why shouldn't GSM work after an unlock in the USA, you think?
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The T-Mobile and AT&T bands are locked out, even with the SIM slot unlocked. Verizon does this with pretty much all of their global Android phones. It's presumably because they're the exclusive carrier for them in the US, so they don't want anyone being able to use them on another major US carrier.
Hmm weird stuff out there in the USA =)
And if I buy a Droid 3 in the USA, buy an unlockcode and unlock this Droid 3.
Can I use it on GSM-network here in Europe (the Netherlands) or isn't that possible?
Here we also have T-Mobile as a provider, will that work? And Vodafone? That's what I have...
I'm gonna start a topic here on XDA about the best 'version' of the Droid 3 for using in Europe / The Netherlands. You have the Motorola XT883 version in China, you have the Droid 3 version in the USA and there is the Motorola XT860 4G in Canada..
But that's offtopic, I'm gonna start a new thread about that!
I'm not an expert at this, but they should work if the bands are the same. They locked out the AT&T bands on the Verizon Droid 2, im not sure about the droid 3.
pocketnow.com/android/verizons-droid-2-global-locks-down-att-bands-stateside
Droid 3 supports - All–Digital, 800/1900, CDMA EVDO rev A and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 UMTS
Found on -
verizonwireless.com/droid-3-motorola.shtml
Droid 3 will work on FOREIGN sim cards when unlocked, but will not work on AT&T USA and T-Mobile USA. I read somewhere that they are making a Droid 3 or something similar for AT&T though. I left links, from where I found this information if you would like to see for yourself
DROID 3 - Will my phone work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Will the Droid 3 work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Your phone is designed to be utilized with the pre-installed SIM card. You will need to enable international roaming AND activate your pre-installed SIM card in your phone when traveling outside of the U.S.
The GSM and UMTS bands that are supported in Droid3 Global will not work in the United States. The GSM and UMTS bands are only able to be utilized outside the U.S. A GSM SIM card such as AT&T or T-Mobile will not operate in the U.S.
Contact Verizon Wireless for more information dial *611 from your cell phone or call Verizon Wireless @ 800-922-0204.
Note: GSM and UMTS-based global services work only with SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another non U.S GSM or UMTS service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900/1800 or UMTS 2100 network, you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless.
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https://motorola-enterprise.custhel...ing-other-gsm-sim-such-as-at&t-or-t-mobile-in
I need to know if the phone will be unlocked for International use if bought from the Motorola store.
I can tell you in about one week...
I will hold you to that then. A week it is...
xstrike9999 said:
I need to know if the phone will be unlocked for International use if bought from the Motorola store.
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No, it won't be.
If it has the Droid 3 name (which means it's the Verizon version of the phone), the SIM slot will be locked regardless of where you buy it. Some versions released in other countries (like the XT860 4G in Canada) may or may not be SIM locked. That remains to be seen. But anything called the Droid 3 will be SIM locked out of the box from any retailer, even Motorola.
An unlockcode will cost you about $30,- so that isn't a problem
bsweetness said:
If it has the Droid 3 name (which means it's the Verizon version of the phone), the SIM slot will be locked regardless of where you buy it. Some versions released in other countries (like the XT860 4G in Canada) may or may not be SIM locked. That remains to be seen. But anything called the Droid 3 will be SIM locked out of the box from any retailer, even Motorola.
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I suppose it will be locked, too, but I'm not sure. On the Motorola store site, nowhere Verizon is mentioned -- moreover, when needed, they generally refer to "your servive provider". And nowhere anything is said about a locking, not even in the "Product Disclaimer" link.
I will eventually know when I got the phone. Of course I'm prepared to pay $30 for unlocking, but if I have to, I'll write a complaint to Motorola.
Could someone please provide a link to a reliable service for unlock codes. I couldn't find anyone on Ebay with the name swiftunlocks...
rweb said:
I suppose it will be locked, too, but I'm not sure. On the Motorola store site, nowhere Verizon is mentioned -- moreover, when needed, they generally refer to "your servive provider". And nowhere anything is said about a locking, not even in the "Product Disclaimer" link.
I will eventually know when I got the phone. Of course I'm prepared to pay $30 for unlocking, but if I have to, I'll write a complaint to Motorola.
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Then I'd go ahead and get that complaint typed up and that money for unlocking ready to go.
They use "your service provider" because they sell phones for different service providers. It's easier to have a blanket statement rather than tailoring the statement to every single device. Verizon pays for the rights to use the "Droid" name. So any device with that Droid name is the Verizon version of the phone. There's no reason why Verizon would allow devices with the name they paid for the rights to (through a very costly deal with LucasFilm no doubt) to come unlocked to be used on other carriers if they aren't allowing it for all of the phones. In the end, if you buy it directly from Motorola, you'll just pay $65 more ($525 vs $460) than you would if you bought it outright from Verizon for the exact same locked phone.
Hello, anyone? where should I get the phone unlocked from? would be great if anyone could give me a link.
xstrike9999 said:
Hello, anyone? where should I get the phone unlocked from? would be great if anyone could give me a link.
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Go to ebay and search for droid 3 unlock. You'll find sellers: freedomobile and unlock_fusion.
I don't know if they will work, but more than 99% of their customers is positive about them. Keep us posted when you try it out.
I just hope everyone understands what "unlock" you are getting as it is NOT the boot loader. Seems like on other forums they think its a boot loader unlock
Got my D3 from Motorola store. As expected, it was SIM locked. But I can confirm too that codes from swiftunlocks work!
Fantastic! Motorola owe you a commission for selling another Droid 3 -- to me!
Like others, I couldn't find a retail site for swiftunlocks on ebay - I must be doing something wrong - but as others said, if you search ebay for "Droid 3 unlock" you will get a couple links to other sellers of unlock codes but
BEWARE
they say in the small print that they can only send the codes via post! (snailmail) per ebay regulations!
-avi
Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
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Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
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No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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Thanks. Understood that your not confirming but reporting what you've observed. The reason why I would choose T-Mobile and use on AT&T is simply because I want the freedom and flexibility to move between different GSM carriers and their MVNOs just like I am able to do on my Nexus 4.
If the T-Mobile version works on a particular HSPA+ band that the Dev Ed does not, yet has all the other bands that the Dev Ed has, then that would make the T-Mobile phones a better and more flexible phone imo. People who need to root or unlock would feel differently since they have different priorities.
I really want to be able to use T-Mobile since they have the best monthly pricing (especially a family of four) and I love how they have shaken up the market, but T-Mobile indoor building penetration is so poor at my current residence that I really need to go with Straight Talk or Net10 with an AT&T sim, yet if I move or the coverage improves I would switch to T-Mobile.
Does T-Mobile have to giver you a code to get your phone to work on AT&T and its MVNO's?
finalarcadia said:
No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
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Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
I'm planning on ordering up a MotoX here shortly and have been wondering about the DE vs Tmo question too. After a LOT of google searches it seems they are the same phone with the Tmo version supporting extra bands. According to this article there is NO carrier branding or bloatware on the the Tmo version. The article also states that the Tmo Moto X comes sim unlocked with an unlockable bootloader via Motorola's unlock program. Given this, I cant understand why anyone would order the DE and not take advantage of the Motomaker customization.
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
As for T-Mobile USA vs Dev edition.. From what I know, they support the same bands and both are SIM Unlocked. While both allow you to unlock their boot loader, doing so on the T-Mobile USA device will void its warranty where as unlocking the boot loader on the Dev Edition does not. That is why some would order the Dev Edition rather than a 32gig T-Mobile version.
As for T-Mobile vs ATT versions...
Two relevant quotes from John Renaldi of Moto here -> https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi
"TMO version will not have all the same LTE banding as the AT&T version. HSPA bands fine though."
"While the TMO version does in fact have all the AT&T LTE bands (your AT&T SIM will work), the hardware itself does not contain all the same bands as the AT&T version. Our TMO version supports: LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 17 and the AT&T version supports LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 05; LTE Band 07; LTE Band 17."
later in that discussion, someone else says... "the T-mobile and Dev variants have the same LTE bands (B17/B4/B2), so they'll be equal. On AT&T (in the US), they'll both do just as well as the AT&T variant. Bands 5 and 7 aren't used by these operators in the US." So not having LTE Band 5 & 7 on the T-Mobile US X wont be a factor unless you are traveling to a non-USA country that uses Band 5 or 7 for LTE.
The T-Mobile can unlock the boot loader, where as the ATT variant can't.
Hello
I have almost the same question. I found an article to root the moto G and the moto X (http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2013...buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer) (sorry it's in spanish)...bla bla bla I found the same that I found here but when I read the comments someone logged as "el mostro cortes" said that he flashed the developer edition's GSM factory image to his motoX. That make me think if I can do the same.
I found the radio specs of my carrier here in Colombia:
TIGO
GSM: 1900MHz
UMTS/HSDPA: 1900MHz
After that I look the motoX DEV-E GSM radio specs and find:
Networks:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands:
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands:
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
With this info, can some help me and tell me if can i flash the motoX DEV-E GSM to my phone?
I search in wikipedia and I found that the motoX DEV-E GSM is a X1053 model, and my motoX is a X1058, it's still posible?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!!!:good:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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jgolf said:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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Thanks for clarifying that. 5 &7 are Just useless than in other words.
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10nisman94 said:
Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
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Yes you can tether, just like stock android.
jgolf said:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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I should add, from what I've gleaned from what people are reporting in this thread, is that the
1) T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X, have an HSPA+ band that the AT&T X does not.
2) Therefore, in the US, the T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are fully functional on AT&T's network.
3) But AT&T's X will be lacking some HSPA+ capabilities on T-Mobile's network.
Again, I'm not confirming or asserting any of this as fact, but only trying to summarize as best I can what we have been discussing.
aooga said:
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
Odelheim said:
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
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If you gain any further insight into this between now and Monday please do report back to this thread. I have zero knowledge one way or the other, but this is the first I've heard that there is any branding on T-Mobile X.
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
finalarcadia said:
I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
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This is great news. Thanks a lot mate.
What I'm wondering is why on earth Motorola would give me such informations then. Is it a secret that it comes unlocked? Nevertheless this is profe enough for me. Awesome.
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
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Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
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Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
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Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
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I just reread my post and it made no sense to me at all. (The info is still right, don't worry)
I don't know what I was doing when I wrote it. At least you understood it.
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
Does it matter which carrier I bought it from? I understand they all have a place for SIM right?
Republic's moto X cant be used by any other carrier correct? How about Sprint? Is there any unlock process involved? Is that any carrier that makes the unlocking process (if needed) easier?
Please include as much information as possible cause I want to be sure I'll be able to use the phone and know what steps are needed.
Thanks in advance
Brush-N said:
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
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Yes it will work in Israel since it has all required 2G and 3G bands. You can see comparison of different version in the attached file. You should probably get T-mobile version since it is not SIM locked and has an unlockable bootloader.
It's important for you not to buy Sprint a Republic Wireless version 'cause they don't work with GSM carriers.
Any other is compatible with 2G/3G European frequencies. As for LTE I cannot help you as I don't what are the frequencies used by Israelian carriers.
Thank you very much, I found the table really helpful! So basically T-mobile is the best option, while Verison should also be fine. I find Sprint & AT&T ones to be the cheapest on ebay, is there any easy way to SIM unlock them?
What does unlockable bootloader mean? How is it useful?
Lastly to GSM LC, Thanks for clarifying about Republic Wireless. We don't have LTE in Israel yet, but the planned bands are 7 and 3, so I won't get support for them anyway...
1) AT&T version can be unlocked by unlocking services like cellunlocker.net.
2) Unlocked bootloader allows flashing custom ROMs.
3) Regarding LTE bands AT&T version probably supports band 7. It is not mentioned in any official spec/document but several users confirmed its presence in XT1058
I'm also planning to buy a Moto X on cyber monday.. I live in Dubai UAE, usually UK/Euro variants of phones work well here. Should i go for the Developer edition with GSM network or T-Mobile off contract version? I would prefer to buy the T-Mobile or AT n T version as i can customize it unlike the developer edition. Any help would be great Thanks.
Guys, is Verizon Moto X like D4 in terms of global unlocked capability?
I bought a D4 last year and using it on GSM without any problem. Anybody can help me?
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
GSM DEV ED is working factory unlocked out of the box as is the T mobile version. No activation needed or required. VZW edition is for those on their network not wanting to void warranty by unlocking bootloader.
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mkb_1989 said:
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
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I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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It's my understanding that an unlocked moto-x will work on either CDMA or GSM networks depending on the sim that is put in the phone. There is apparently no hardware difference in the various phones other than 16gb or 32gb. The differences are in the preloading and locking of carrier stuff...and the warranty for developer edition not being voided by unlocking it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
nuchdog said:
All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
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I just returned from a week in Europe with my Verizon Moto X (non-DE). When I landed in Italy, it took about 10 minutes before the phone picked up a local carrier and then everything worked great. In Italy I was roaming on Vodafone, and in Switzerland I was roaming on Swisscom. Data worked great in both places. I didn't try using a local SIM card, but I'm sure there are plenty that would work.
Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
brysommer said:
Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
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The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
Drahkarg said:
The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
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Is Verizon or T-mobile version sim-free. Which versions can be unlocked throught purchasing online?
T Mobile is the SIM unlocked one. It's SIM unlocked from factory, no unlocked code need to be purchased.
Sent from my Moto X
What about Sprint version? Is it unlocked for overseas use?
Sprint from what I've read has an unlock program that you have to go through before them actually giving you the unlock code. So it's kind of pointless to get a Sprint version.
Sent from my Moto X
What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
brysommer said:
What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
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It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
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It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
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I want only GSM 900/1800, the best SIM-free, or the ability to buy the code on ebey. Would do well to EVDO compatibility. If I understand you correctly then:
# 1 Verizon
# 2 T-mobile
# 3 ATT