Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
brysommer said:
Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
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The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
Drahkarg said:
The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
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Is Verizon or T-mobile version sim-free. Which versions can be unlocked throught purchasing online?
T Mobile is the SIM unlocked one. It's SIM unlocked from factory, no unlocked code need to be purchased.
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What about Sprint version? Is it unlocked for overseas use?
Sprint from what I've read has an unlock program that you have to go through before them actually giving you the unlock code. So it's kind of pointless to get a Sprint version.
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What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
brysommer said:
What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
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It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
alpha-niner64 said:
It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
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I want only GSM 900/1800, the best SIM-free, or the ability to buy the code on ebey. Would do well to EVDO compatibility. If I understand you correctly then:
# 1 Verizon
# 2 T-mobile
# 3 ATT
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The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
Nope. It's the same on the Droid 3.
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
Jason Cook
myrandex said:
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
Jason Cook
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Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
Tidbits said:
Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
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Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
Reread what I said, and think harder about what I said. Regardless if you can pay or not. It's still locked from the moment you purchased it. You have to wait Months to get an unlock code or pay someone to unlock it for you. Just because Verizon locks you out from using it from other carriers there are way to adjust it. You could always purchase a milestone which is the same thing right?
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Radio bands etc etc
DukeL said:
Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
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Actually, most unlocked AT&T and T-Mobile smartphones won't work on 3G on the other's network. Different bands. Same sort of attempt at locking the phone from being used with other domestic carriers just like Verizon. When the companies pay for an exclusive within the country, they want to do their best to protect their investment and keep it exclusive.
This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
Actually I was referring to the carrier lock that needed to be removed for US bands.
majatt said:
This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
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according to the wikipedia entry it does not support 1800Mhz bands =\ If I'm not mistaken, that's the same as Tmobile in America for UMTS 3G bands
qipengart said:
The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
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DROID 3 - Will my phone work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Will the Droid 3 work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Your phone is designed to be utilized with the pre-installed SIM card. You will need to enable international roaming AND activate your pre-installed SIM card in your phone when traveling outside of the U.S.
The GSM and UMTS bands that are supported in Droid3 Global will not work in the United States. The GSM and UMTS bands are only able to be utilized outside the U.S. A GSM SIM card such as AT&T or T-Mobile will not operate in the U.S.
Contact Verizon Wireless for more information dial *611 from your cell phone or call Verizon Wireless @ 800-922-0204.
Note: GSM and UMTS-based global services work only with SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another non U.S GSM or UMTS service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900/1800 or UMTS 2100 network, you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless.
From Motorola
https://motorola-enterprise.custhel...ing-other-gsm-sim-such-as-at&t-or-t-mobile-in
If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
Regardless of where you buy your phone it will be locked to Verizon. Verizon will provide an unlock code to customers based on certain prerequisites. This code will allow you to use another carrier's sim cards while outside of the US, but you can not use any US based GSM providers.
xstrike9999 said:
If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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xstrike9999 said:
If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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If it has the Droid 3 name (which means it's the Verizon version of the phone), the SIM slot will be locked regardless of where you buy it. Some versions released in other countries (like the XT860 4G in Canada) may or may not be SIM locked. That remains to be seen.
But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
tonyx3 said:
But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
bsweetness said:
Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
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I seriously hope so. I messed about with the Droid 3 at the Verizon store and I really liked it. I'd love to be able to use it (or Bell's version) on T-Mobile.
tonyx3 said:
But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
lbyinchina said:
Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
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But what about unlocking the US based GSM carriers?
And what about the aosp roms?
Is the restriction in the rom, or in the radio file?
There's a CyanogenMod 7 alpha version being developed, and people are reporting that something in its build.prop gives them better gsm reception overseas. Would it also allow a US Droid 3 user to use a US GSM carrier, such as AT&T?
since sprint has a SIM slot, does this mean possible to unlock for ATT / T-mobile?
Nope
Sprint=CDMA
ATT/T-Mobile=GSM
Actually... Sprint HTC One = CDMA/LTE and GSM...
So yes it's technically possible, but there's been a few hiccups with getting it accomplished. The method to SIM Unlock the device that regular GSM providers use (pop in a third party SIM and it prompts you for an unlock code) doesn't work with the Sprint HTC One so it requires a bit more creativity to get it unlocked. Unless something's changed recently there hasn't been a whole lot of success with using it on domestic GSM networks either. Reference the Sim Unlock thread for more info:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243724
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Nope
Sprint=CDMA
ATT/T-Mobile=GSM
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Even if you could do it, it's of limited utility since it only supports one 3G band out of the various 3G and 4G bands used by AT&T and T-Mobile in the US. Therefore, you may experience reduced data performance with the device in certain places.
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
Does it matter which carrier I bought it from? I understand they all have a place for SIM right?
Republic's moto X cant be used by any other carrier correct? How about Sprint? Is there any unlock process involved? Is that any carrier that makes the unlocking process (if needed) easier?
Please include as much information as possible cause I want to be sure I'll be able to use the phone and know what steps are needed.
Thanks in advance
Brush-N said:
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
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Yes it will work in Israel since it has all required 2G and 3G bands. You can see comparison of different version in the attached file. You should probably get T-mobile version since it is not SIM locked and has an unlockable bootloader.
It's important for you not to buy Sprint a Republic Wireless version 'cause they don't work with GSM carriers.
Any other is compatible with 2G/3G European frequencies. As for LTE I cannot help you as I don't what are the frequencies used by Israelian carriers.
Thank you very much, I found the table really helpful! So basically T-mobile is the best option, while Verison should also be fine. I find Sprint & AT&T ones to be the cheapest on ebay, is there any easy way to SIM unlock them?
What does unlockable bootloader mean? How is it useful?
Lastly to GSM LC, Thanks for clarifying about Republic Wireless. We don't have LTE in Israel yet, but the planned bands are 7 and 3, so I won't get support for them anyway...
1) AT&T version can be unlocked by unlocking services like cellunlocker.net.
2) Unlocked bootloader allows flashing custom ROMs.
3) Regarding LTE bands AT&T version probably supports band 7. It is not mentioned in any official spec/document but several users confirmed its presence in XT1058
I'm also planning to buy a Moto X on cyber monday.. I live in Dubai UAE, usually UK/Euro variants of phones work well here. Should i go for the Developer edition with GSM network or T-Mobile off contract version? I would prefer to buy the T-Mobile or AT n T version as i can customize it unlike the developer edition. Any help would be great Thanks.
Guys, is Verizon Moto X like D4 in terms of global unlocked capability?
I bought a D4 last year and using it on GSM without any problem. Anybody can help me?
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
Anderson2 said:
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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Republic wireless phone only works with republic wireless.
Start with your carrier then go from there. If GSM and you NEED root i suggest t-mobile or dev edition so u can unlock bootloader and always guarantee root.
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
aooga said:
then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. .
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
netsyd said:
Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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yes
aooga said:
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
Anderson2 said:
I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
aooga said:
Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
savagedp said:
Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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The radios all differ slightly. And yes, you should get the tmobile one since it's sim unlocked. I don't know the bands of your carrier, so you might have to look it up and compare it with the US bands.
Ok just checked. Seems like only 3G will work in Singapore. LTE here is band 3 and 7. whereas T-mobile seems to be just on band 4.
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
GSM DEV ED is working factory unlocked out of the box as is the T mobile version. No activation needed or required. VZW edition is for those on their network not wanting to void warranty by unlocking bootloader.
Sent from my Moto X
mkb_1989 said:
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
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I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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It's my understanding that an unlocked moto-x will work on either CDMA or GSM networks depending on the sim that is put in the phone. There is apparently no hardware difference in the various phones other than 16gb or 32gb. The differences are in the preloading and locking of carrier stuff...and the warranty for developer edition not being voided by unlocking it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
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I just returned from a week in Europe with my Verizon Moto X (non-DE). When I landed in Italy, it took about 10 minutes before the phone picked up a local carrier and then everything worked great. In Italy I was roaming on Vodafone, and in Switzerland I was roaming on Swisscom. Data worked great in both places. I didn't try using a local SIM card, but I'm sure there are plenty that would work.