Possible to beat cricket throttling? - Kyocera Zio M6000

Ok i am being throttled at 5-7 kbs which sux!! So ive been google hunting and have found very little on beating throttle "all i wouldnt trust." So i started digging into system files. I found a file named cci_ro.prop in data/flex which when opened as text has alot of options to edit over ip/network. I understand some but not all of options unfortunatly. I will toy around with it very softly see what i come up with and maybe beat cricket throttling for good and without having to flash unknown to zio.
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I'm not sure it's done on the phone side of it.
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It's on cricket's end where the throttle occurs.
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Omg i bypassed it!! Back up to 150-200kbs! All i did was turned on fast dormance in the file list in op. I have ran 4 speed tests in the last 5 hrs and all were aboove 150kbs. It is eatting alittle more battery then normal but worked. I will report back if anything changes. Freaking awesome!!
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I found this very interesting thread called 'Data Service Governor Killer.'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10100043&postcount=1
The author of the thread mentioned that the data governor killer is compatible with many other roms. From reading the thread, I think that I understood that the governor killer modifies a file in the Android system directory named services.jar
These are the throttled files that can be found in the classes.dex inside the services.jar file directory (examples from a moto droid) and the governor killer removes them,
ThrottleService$1.smali
ThrottleService$2.smali
ThrottleService$DataRecorder.smali
ThrottleService$InterfaceObserver.smali
ThrottleService$MyHandler.smali
ThrottleService$SettingsObserver.smali
ThrottleService.smali
The data governor killer is flashed under recovery mode by using rom manager or something of the sort. I do think that this may be possible for us to do in CWM or to integrate this with openZio.
It would be awesome to have the data service governor killer along with Juwe11's ram script modification added to a future build of openZio.
EDIT:
I found this tutorial http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/105807-guide-how-stop-data-throttling.html which doesn't require flashing I think.

Nice, now let's see how long it takes them to catch on and terminate your service.
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Mattix724 said:
Nice, now let's see how long it takes them to catch on and terminate your service.
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My service? My phone isn't even throttled.
I think that you'll want to change your wording from a first person to third person point of view

Good find darkenergy but so far so good still getting 150-160kbs so no need to flash or push unknown on to phone. @mattix- who the hell you think you are? Get a f***ing life dude and quit posting rude comments on everyones posts. Didnt your mama teach you manners? If you dont have anything nice to say keep your fat @55 mouth shut! Thx u..
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bryanskinner said:
Good find darkenergy but so far so good still getting 150-160kbs so no need to flash or push unknown on to phone. @mattix- who the hell you think you are? Get a f***ing life dude and quit posting rude comments on everyones posts. Didnt your mama teach you manners? If you dont have anything nice to say keep your fat @55 mouth shut! Thx u..
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That's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever heard it. I didn't see Mattix's post as rude. Misarticulated, maybe, but still; if you see something someone says as rude, 75% of the time it's because YOU read it that way. This isn't the place to be fighting anyway. We're all here to collaborate, and that's what I expect to see us all doing. Alright?
EDIT: I changed the same value
ro.data.fastdormancy=true
but was unable to recreate your unthrottling. Still at 7.5KBPS. You're sure you didn't play with any other settings?
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@pomer-ya ive been very rude to EVERYONE here at xda in my 2 posts let me APPOLOGIZE to everyone for that.
Edit: did you reboot after changing to true pomer? Also i just want to say that i was 100% throttled i called cricket cs and they verified that i had gone over my 1 gig mark.
The only thing that i can think of me changing was a day prier i deleted the folder throttle and cleared out the folder usagestats "then rebooted". Both folders are found in data/system. On reboot system made another throttle folder and had replaced the 2 files in the usagestats system reseting both files with all 0's in the files. No speed increase i was still hitting 5-7kbs everywere i did the speed test. Tested outside, inside, in car all still the same. I am still getting 150 and above right now. Weird ill let ya no if anything changes.
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Well, you were the one swearing, and you'll find I am a lot nicer about it than most, so let's just play nice from here on out, okay?
But yeah, I rebooted. I'll try doing what you explained just there and report back. In the meantime, if someone else decides they want to try this out, post your findings.
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Wow, ya'll need to just chill out... This is XDA, not UFC. If you think I am an asshole then get this, I joke around alot and yes I am a smartass. I'm a chill laid back person and I act my age, I actually have friends.
All I was saying in my last post is that cricket will eventually catch on and they will terminate your service when they see excessive usage over the 1gb cap.
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I was getting 600kbs before I tried it and after I got 800kbs
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I was getting 600kbs before I tried it and after I got 800kbs
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Daaaaamn. Do you have a cell tower in your backyard or something? I cap off at 150-170KBPS with full signal.
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No haha a few blocks away tho. I live in Vegas, my signal is always up and down sometimes no bars but always have 3g here.
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They must have a packet-server out there. Makes sense, though; Vegas is a big city and would need one locally to offset the load. We're getting off subject, though. Has anyone been able to use either of these techniques to unthrottle?
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Alright just a small update. Starting this morning i have been having speeds of 350kbs i have never had those speeds on the cricket network. My speeds have always varyed from 120-200kbs tops. Has anyone had any luck with these setting? Please report if you have thx.
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@bryanskinner, I am new to the droid world. Just recent got a job to afford a cricket phone! I've have discovered the beauty of rooting a phone with my ascend.
I just got the ascend2, and there is little to none support for it right now. I have the phone rooted and do not have clockwork recovery on the phone. Is this a must have? b/c i dont want to rush things for the mod b/c a2 not supported just yet but of course there is a way to mock clockwork mod.
As for fastdormance=true i have no idea how you would get to that system file and i have no idea if i need a custom rom on my phone or can i just use my stock os? Im asuming i need to get a program for my computer to access system files? or is it simply an app?
Please help. I WANT MY NETFLIX BACK. it took no time at all for the startling truth of cricket's throttling to arise and great me with retarded slow speeds.
FYI @mattix, you might like to know this..... I work for verizon as a tech support agent and no, cell phone companies will not cancel your service if you bypass your phone throttling even if we see it in our systems. in fact it is highly the opposite. you can do anything to your phone from rooting to whatever. just trust me.

here is an idea drop cricket for a real carrier like verizon or sprint that give you real 3g cricket is a joke period slow ass 3g = fail
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TaylorPaul said:
@bryanskinner, I am new to the droid world. Just recent got a job to afford a cricket phone! I've have discovered the beauty of rooting a phone with my ascend.
I just got the ascend2, and there is little to none support for it right now. I have the phone rooted and do not have clockwork recovery on the phone. Is this a must have? b/c i dont want to rush things for the mod b/c a2 not supported just yet but of course there is a way to mock clockwork mod.
As for fastdormance=true i have no idea how you would get to that system file and i have no idea if i need a custom rom on my phone or can i just use my stock os? Im asuming i need to get a program for my computer to access system files? or is it simply an app?
Please help. I WANT MY NETFLIX BACK. it took no time at all for the startling truth of cricket's throttling to arise and great me with retarded slow speeds.
FYI @mattix, you might like to know this..... I work for verizon as a tech support agent and no, cell phone companies will not cancel your service if you bypass your phone throttling even if we see it in our systems. in fact it is highly the opposite. you can do anything to your phone from rooting to whatever. just trust me.
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you work for verizon why do you have cricket
so what happens if they see rooting in their systems

qjsmartphone said:
here is an idea drop cricket for a real carrier like verizon or sprint that give you real 3g cricket is a joke period slow ass 3g = fail
you work for verizon why do you have cricket
so what happens if they see rooting in their systems
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Here is an idea: don't come into our forum and berate us over OUR product-choices. FYI, we piggyback on Verizon's data network, and much of the time, we're just as fast.
Anyway, here are some abridged posts from pyrixiate from the OpenZIO development thread that solve the throttling problem.
pyraxiate said:
IT WORKS! One drawback... you cant access settings/mobile networks. Not sure why but others report the same on other devices. Ill look into it and try adding one throttling service back at a time and hopefully it will resolve the issue.
All i did was decompile [services.jar] , wipe ALL of the throttling services, and recompile.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37729675/services.jar
Credit goes to Sino8r here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
PS
It definitely helped my bandwidth issues. I know im well over 5gb this month and i noticed a heavy reduction in speed. Using this id say it want back to around 50-60% what it originally was.
Please note, I have NOT had the time to determine which specific throttling services specifically have an impact, so for now you WILL not be able to use settings/ mobile networks ( this is also repeated several times in other threads using the same method ). One of those throttling files if removes causes FC's.
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Once again, this particular services.jar was decompiled, stripped of it's throttling services, and recompiled by pyraxiate, and this link is to his dropbox that he posted in the OpenZIO development thread.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37729675/services.jar
A few more things to keep in mind; you HAVE to adb push this (to /system/framework/) or you'll end up bootlooping your phone, before you adb push it make sure you have data and data roaming enabled in settings > wireless & networks > mobile networks (because you won't be able to access this after you push the new services.jar), this is ONLY good for the current OpenZIO ROM, and BACK UP YOUR SERVICES.JAR FILE IN CASE YOU F**K IT UP.

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[RUMOR] I hate rumors but here it goes...

I hate hearing rumors, I really do. But I'm going to start one because mine has some merit to it. I have a friend of mine that works for Verizon. I told him I wouldn't state his name or what "department" he works in when I made this post. I was talking to him on the phone just about 45 minutes ago about the Revolution and how we're dying to get Gingerbread and how some people are actually getting rid of the Revo for fear that it will never get GB. Here's the conversation that took place.
Me: I just really wish we'd get it already. It would help out with development so much.
Him: Dude, whatever you do, don't get rid of your Revo.
Me: Haha, I'm not but why?
Him: You guys should be getting the soak test soon and as long as it goes good all Revos will have it by mid or late October.
Me: Don't bull**** me, how do you know?
Him: Trust me, it just came through an email 2 days ago. I meant to call you but I couldn't remember if you had actually bought the Revo or just waited for something different.
Me: Damn man that's awesome! You better not be bullshitting me.
Him: I'll put it this way, I put my paycheck on it.
Me: That's awesome man, hey can I tell people about our convo?
Him: I don't care, just don't use my name or where I work.
Me: Kinda HAVE to tell people where you work or I'll look like a retard hahaha.
Him: Oh ok but don't tell them what department I work in or anything. I already almost got fired a while back for putting out some info about the Bionic hahaha.
Me: Alright cool, hey thanks man. You have no idea how happy a lot of people are going to be when we get GB.
The rest of the convo was filled with nonsense talk about times past (and girls haha). Just thought I should share this info with you guys!
Loving this. I want GB!!!
I'm speechless
Thanks for the news.
"Home-Less and Iconic"
I'm a little slow right now lol, soak test?
wayneb02 said:
i'm a little slow right now lol, soak test?
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wayneb02 said:
I'm a little slow right now lol, soak test?
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if your asking what a "soak test" is then ill answer as best i can
a Soak Test is when the send out the update to a select few people and make sure that the update works in the real world with out breaking anything.
wayneb02 said:
I'm a little slow right now lol, soak test?
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Soak testing is testing a system with a significant load over an extended period of time to discover how things act over a long period.
What he is saying is there are Revo's out there with 2.3.4 already installed on them. Verizon employees will carry and use a Revo on a daily basis with 2.3 loaded to see how it performs, what glitches arise etc...
If you play video games its kind of like an beta test only its not generally open to the public. During this time they also test the push out of the update to the phone to make sure everything will go smooth when they start pushing it to thousands at once.
K0G said:
I'm speechless
Thanks for the news.
"Home-Less and Iconic"
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Very welcome. Loving the signature btw! Lol.
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How will this affect thecubed's work on CM7?
imnotamorningguy said:
How will this affect thecubed's work on CM7?
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what i read, someone is getting thecubed a leak of GB and that will help him get CM7 going faster..
now that was what i read under the CM7 post so who knows
Its probably the same leak the cubed has been waiting for. This will help him get the files to port over cm7. Great to hear!
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Just want to update you guys a little more from my newest conversation.
Unfortunately he is in no position to get us a leak.
He works for tech support and received an email stating to be ready for possible high call volumes in about 2-3 weeks as the Gingerbread soak test begins for the LG Revolution. That was about all the email said.
Again though, this is in no way going to help us get a leak. Sorry guys.
Rav20 said:
if your asking what a "soak test" is then ill answer as best i can
a Soak Test is when the send out the update to a select few people and make sure that the update works in the real world with out breaking anything.
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"Home-Less and Iconic"Ok so think we should drop back into the original ROM with the
V6 update? maybe luck out and get an update in the next 2-3 weeks
Hmmm?
Might be worth having a stock phone if it got the OTA update with gingerbread in it.
Think i'm going to check out Revolt 1.4 tonight and go back to stock in the morning.
Please, any thoughts on this?
Haxcid said:
Soak testing is testing a system with a significant load over an extended period of time to discover how things act over a long period.
What he is saying is there are Revo's out there with 2.3.4 already installed on them. Verizon employees will carry and use a Revo on a daily basis with 2.3 loaded to see how it performs, what glitches arise etc...
If you play video games its kind of like an beta test only its not generally open to the public. During this time they also test the push out of the update to the phone to make sure everything will go smooth when they start pushing it to thousands at once.
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Rav20 said:
if your asking what a "soak test" is then ill answer as best i can
a Soak Test is when the send out the update to a select few people and make sure that the update works in the real world with out breaking anything.
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Which soak you think they will use?
"Sent from an Iconic Revolt"
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"Home-Less and Iconic"Ok so think we should drop back into the original ROM with the V6 update?
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I wouldn't worry about going to back to stock just yet. According to the email, the soak isn't even going to start unil about 2-3 weeks from Monday the 12th.
Not sure how lg does it but you can sign up for these soak test with motorola they will even send them out to a few people who have gotten root access and have gotten back to stock as close as possible without having root access. check the droid 3 forums they just either did one or just sent out the invite to join the soak test. Here is the thread with pictures of the invite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251900&highlight=Soak+test
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I hope this holds true, I'm really starting to regret my LG purchase, almost wish VZW would let me swap for a Bionic.
Myhigh said:
I hope this holds true, I'm really starting to regret my LG purchase, almost wish VZW would let me swap for a Bionic.
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Why are you starting to regret it?
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Why are you starting to regret it?
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While the Revo is a great single core phone... Hardware wise.
Bionic:
1. Dual Core future proof
2. 2.3.4 out of the box
3. Gorilla glass screen
4. qHD
5. 8mp Camera
6. 1745 MaH battery
7. 1080p Video recording
8. For the non-rooted - No Bing.
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While the Revo is a great single core phone... Hardware wise.
Bionic:
1. Dual Core future proof
2. 2.3.4 out of the box
3. Gorilla glass screen
4. qHD
5. 8mp Camera
6. 1745 MaH battery
7. 1080p Video recording
8. For the non-rooted - No Bing.
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Although I agree with most of what you said is better here, I sure wouldn't say that dual core is future proof. They had already began discussing quad core before the first dual core even came out.
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Not a rumor - we have always known GB was coming. This is partly why Cubed had delayed his CM7 development.
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Although I agree with most of what you said is better here, I sure wouldn't say that dual core is future proof. They had already began discussing quad core before the first dual core even came out.
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Throwing more cores at a device does not necessarily increase performance, either, unless the application base and operating system takes full advantage of them for multi-threading.
Case in point: Most hard-core games on a PC that came out over the past 5 years will run the same, if not better on a single or dual core machine as they did on a quad core. What really makes the difference is architecture, clockspeed, application architecture, and most importantly (assuming the apps use it) GPU implementation!
Assuming all apps were hardware accelerated on an Android, you would care more about the GPU then you would the CPU. Being that a lot of apps are not hardware accelerated, or take advantage of aggressive multi-threading, you may actually see a performance drop on the Bionic depending on the implementation of the devices core implementation (much like the scores from the Atrix showed).
The hype of more cores = smoother experience is bunk. It's just a spec and numbers war. More cores = possibility of more apps running seamlessly at once, but only if the architecture is there to support it.

Has anyone figured out the reboot problems?

I thought that by rooting and putting a new ROM on my phone that it'd help out my problems of it rebooting randomly and having a non responsive internet 50% of the time but it hasn't. Anyone else having these problems with their Thrills? About to go back to the iPhone even though i really don't want to
I have occasional reboots, but not often. I know mine is more tinkering with my kernel.
i only had mine reboot once only cuz i killed gta3 the rong way and it crashed
yeah mine does it any time that it has to think about something... i go to post something on facebook and about half the time it freezes and then reboots. I think i've pulled the battery out a couple dozen times this last week because of it just stopping on me
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i only had mine reboot once only cuz i killed gta3 the rong way and it crashed
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There's a wrong way close apps/games? Not on the iPhone. Get with the times Google.
TylDurden said:
There's a wrong way close apps/games? Not on the iPhone. Get with the times Google.
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There is no wrong way to close an App/Game.
It's the developer of the app that causes the problem.
ok now i'm finally getting it to where it's saying different apps (mostly clockworkmod) are failing and to either force close or cancel...
Well I jumped out of gta3 with the home button and tryed to go in app manager to close it and probly ran out of ram and crashed instead of backing out of gta3 with the game menu
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There is no wrong way to close an App/Game.
It's the developer of the app that causes the problem.
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I just wish Android OS suspended everything when you push the home button and had push notifications instead of persistent checking. All this background running is killing our batteries and causing lockups.
Ya I know I wounding if you could put it in a rom or kernal
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True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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how do you turn off background data and what does it do? Also can i dump clockworkmod recovery since it's one of the ones that keeps popping up saying it's froze? i've got the Doomed ROM on it now
bedwa said:
True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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I hear ya, I know its wishful thinking. I just wish android was as efficient as iOS. Android having Backgrounding from the start was a big perk, but I gotta hand to apple for seeing how inefficient it was and hold off until they found a better solution. Android needs to grab the bull by the horns and convert to that solution.
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how do you turn off background data and what does it do? Also can i dump clockworkmod recovery since it's one of the ones that keeps popping up saying it's froze? i've got the Doomed ROM on it now
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Menu>accounts and sync>Background Data
Background data allows you to receive emails and your apps to update periodically while your not using your phone. This is the basis of 99% of your notifications. It's kinda the point of having a smart phone in the first place.
oh ok... yeah i really like getting all my updates so i don't wanna do that
Well I've got an issue where the phone shuts off while not in use and I have to pull the battery to restart. Are there any suggestions on how to fix this problem? Its random so I have no clue what's causing it.
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o0shaft0o said:
Well I've got an issue where the phone shuts off while not in use and I have to pull the battery to restart. Are there any suggestions on how to fix this problem? Its random so I have no clue what's causing it.
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pretty much the same thing i'm trying to figure out...
Just had to pull my battery to restart after sitting for a while
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I wonder what the deal is, I got a refurb and that may be the cause of it. How about you guys?
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o0shaft0o said:
I wonder what the deal is, I got a refurb and that may be the cause of it. How about you guys?
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mines brand new... started happening more when i rooted and put the ROM on it but it was doing it straight from AT&T too...
Same here. Any advice?
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I might as well introduce myself and let the games begin.

I am no ordinary greenhorn, in fact, to be completely honest this is the first smart phone I have ever owned. Before this love affair began with my thrill 3D, I was partial to the cheap flip phones. So without further ado; I rooted her bricked her first by checkin out system tuner and seeing what would happen if I turned up a thing or two. When i woke in the morning jungle font stopped unexpectedly, so i pressed force close, it came back faster than i could pull my thumb away, after about a dozen or so times w/ the same result, I did what any sensible idiot comparable to uneducated stone would do and pulled the battery. She rebooted with no font. Factory reset, root again recover my beloved apps and data and then (again what any sensible idiot would and opened system tuner. in my defense, however i was only moving system files to sd not uninstalling them. 'ol thrill did not like that one bit and with a sudden burst of rage-full, maniacal, protest force closed files of all types, one super quickly right after another. it was a domino effect sort of thing. anyway, i tried the lg flash package steps several times to no avail, now it seems overwhelming. tomorrow i am dive right in to xda university deal i heard about, but in the mean time any help in getting my deeply missed thrill back on line would be appreciated so much more than most of you could imagine. i have a lot on plate and this couldn't have been a worse time for me kill my life line. Thank you guys in advance. sorry 'bout the long post, verbose is my middle name.
FRAT
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frat?
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FRAT
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Actually my friend, I'm in my late thirties with two little boys. I'm a single dad, with zero presence from their biological co-founder. I'm a carpenter by trade, hence the cheap flip phones in the past. In addition to work and kids, I did start going to college full time (I'm in my second semester) for child psychology in order to better understand the difference between my youngest (4) who is developing typically and my oldest (7) who is autistic. In the middle of wrestling an already obese schedule, I am smack dab in the middle of fighting with the school district because they are (in my opinion based on my careful observation) stuck in the process of teaching autistic kids how to be more autistic rather than how to be "human" like most of the rest of us. To recover my boy from his public-school-bootloop seems to be as equally perplexing as my phone. A seventh grade education over twenty years ago only goes so far. So there it is, while I love to write, I am far from a frat boy, where they get laid in bed, I only lay in bed Embarrassing really, but my sacrifice is/will be the root of all of my boys smiles. I don't have the money nor the desire to buy a new phone. I love my thrill! It is imperative that I get it back online ASAP. Unfortunately often times a picture in crayon is what I need when it comes to some things. If you guys can't or won't help me get it going I figure it out, I always do. But no matter what, I will have my thrill. P.S. Mad props for all you guy that have put the effort into XDA University and the slang terms thread, I admire people who give up their time and energy just for the sake of sharing what they know, for us "noobs" that kind of generosity is the only way learn about such alien concepts and processes as these. Like I said "I'm no ordinary greenhorn" Thanks again in advance, time is ticking and I'm not using a pay phone and refuse to get a flipper! Gotta run, good day all!!!!!!
FRAT x2
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come on, I'm not gonna beg!
But I will ask nicely; please will one of you guys help me? I got a really nice one of a kind end grain cutting board i just finished up in shop i also just finished two Tangram puzzle sets hand made out of some beautifull exotic hardwood for any one interested in helping me make sense of this proccess of recovering from a bootloop. I'm not gonna go away, even if I have to figure out some other means.
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I am no ordinary greenhorn, in fact, to be completely honest this is the first smart phone I have ever owned. Before this love affair began with my thrill 3D, I was partial to the cheap flip phones. So without further ado; I rooted her bricked her first by checkin out system tuner and seeing what would happen if I turned up a thing or two. When i woke in the morning jungle font stopped unexpectedly, so i pressed force close, it came back faster than i could pull my thumb away, after about a dozen or so times w/ the same result, I did what any sensible idiot comparable to uneducated stone would do and pulled the battery. She rebooted with no font. Factory reset, root again recover my beloved apps and data and then (again what any sensible idiot would and opened system tuner. in my defense, however i was only moving system files to sd not uninstalling them. 'ol thrill did not like that one bit and with a sudden burst of rage-full, maniacal, protest force closed files of all types, one super quickly right after another. it was a domino effect sort of thing. anyway, i tried the lg flash package steps several times to no avail, now it seems overwhelming. tomorrow i am dive right in to xda university deal i heard about, but in the mean time any help in getting my deeply missed thrill back on line would be appreciated so much more than most of you could imagine. i have a lot on plate and this couldn't have been a worse time for me kill my life line. Thank you guys in advance. sorry 'bout the long post, verbose is my middle name.
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Everything you need is in the optimus 3d thread there the same phone theres even an ics official rom im running it now
Thank you
Bigtech313 said:
Everything you need is in the optimus 3d thread there the same phone theres even an ics official rom im running it now
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I followed the instructions from an optimums thread by dark lestat, i tried four times. but absolutely nothing happened. Norton was a problem, fixed that. then found out what a com port was, let me ask anyway, that refers to the USB port right, and not communication port like maybe through a my firewall? i haven't tried a different USB cable yet cause i just found out about it tonite while i was looking for some answers. do i do anything with the kidz file? i would rather have a different ROM, what is the recovery manager for? and one more clarification, how do I know that it is working at the last step when i put the bat back in and connect the USB to my lap top? will it vibrate or screen flash or something. I am going to try again tomorrow. i learned a lot i didn't know today from xda u, so I don't feel so lost. I can build a house ,but droid recovery is a whole ball game! Thanks again Bigtech.
another Q
Does it matter which kdz file I choose, if so Which one should I use? I ended up with the official gingerbread cause it was the only link that worked.
use either v30b kdz of v28b kdz. they're both ics, which is, i believe much better than gingerbread
Any word if they got rid of the ghost call problem? And I am very surprised that ATT still cares about this phone considering they discontinued it like 5 months after they started to sell it
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I finally got my phone to boot up
then today it crashed when I was restoing apps from system tuner, any idea why?
Stop FRATing and people will help more. Post precisely and specifically what your problem is. No one wants to read your wall of text.
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question
why b2cappsetup pop up tellin me to connect with the internet when i already am? tryin to flash v30b recovering from a bootloop. thanks!
sorry bro
Hate the game Dog, not the playa:laugh: the xda new-membe- intro video made me do it! It said that you old pros are "lawn geezers" and we are the kids runnin across your front yard. I was simply getting into charector:} nah just kiddin, i did over do it a bit though huh won't happen again either cause you all are much more helpful when your not pissed.
OK I have not read your other posts. Install Smartflash instead and install the 2 drivers. Then flash XBSA's pretty rooted ROM with Smartflash.
Download XBSA's V7.2 ROM and flash it from recovery.
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I also tried this guide from scratch today it worked perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191698
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i'm on it!
I'm gonna try the second one again first though, something isn't right with the b2cappsetup, maybe its my anti virus or firewall
oh crap i can so believe i missed that!
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I'm gonna try the second one again first though, something isn't right with the b2cappsetup, maybe its my anti virus or firewall
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ooooohhhh! set and run everything as admin, missed that the first 8 times:laugh:laugh:
urgh!
my laptop won't let me run the b2capp says i have to connect to the net then press continue, i am already connected so i press and it just comes right back. any ideas why?
Same prob here. Had to disable anti virus.
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I'm new to the G-Flex but not to Android or Linux.

Just wanna introduce myself. I'm Matt, and I just picked up my G-Flex yesterday at T-Mobile. This is my first LG but not my first android. I've been rooting, unlocking, modding, theming, bricking, and recovering androids since the DROID 2 days. I'm not claiming to be a dev, but I do know my way around android/ Linux. I am a crack flashing android whore. I was on the RAZR maxx when it came with Gingerbread 2.3.4 and stuck with it through JB 4.1. Moved on to the RAZR HD MAXX on ICS 4.0.4 and followed a couple of the best devs Hashcode and Dan Rosenberg. Was one of the first to profit from Dan's RAZR HD MAXX bootloader exploit. Big props to the first ever to crack a Motorola bootloader.
Shortly after I moved on to the Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-I337. I can't count the soft bricks I recovered from before Loki and Odin files where released. Bad thing was my phone being rooted was able to be my hot spot, so when bricked I had no way to look up or ask questions. But I some how through trial and error recovered.
I now have the G-Flex on T-Mobile and within a few hours of purchase I'm rooted thanks to the IoRoot method. Thanks to the cat that posted the thread on here for that one in this same General Forum section. And needless to say I've already bricked it twice tonight. Just recovered it and got booted back up and set up.
With all that said, I'm not afraid of testing or helping with any development. I'm not afraid of brick, cuz I'm sure with all the talented devs on xda and myself, I will recover.
Luckily I made a back up of my build-props, system, and recovery so I was able to restore and push thru adb. Also wiped cache, dalvik, and system via adb. And reboot back to stock out of the box. But still a little puzzled how I kept root. Not complaining just puzzled.
If there is anyone working on a TWRP or CWM and Loki please message me and let me know what I can do to help. Like I said I'm not a dev and not claiming to be at all. I'm just brave. And mainly don't know where to start with porting a recovery much less Loki. But I can test and I take instruction well.
Hope I can help excited with the potential of the G-Flex....
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nice post man:good:
I think we are pretty close to a recovery here, as a few folks are working on it.
Just like any new phone, it takes awhile for it to "catch on"; especially when all the "reviewers" have been slamming this phone for various reasons.
That makes people slow down jumping on it, but this phone is really fantastic, EPIC battery, great display, fastest phone out right now, and, the more that people ignore the idiot reviewers, and grab this thing, the sooner the development will take off.
The "problem" is that it's so awesum stock out of the box, that there isnt a sense of urgency to mod it! :victory:
wase4711 said:
nice post man:good:
I think we are pretty close to a recovery here, as a few folks are working on it.
Just like any new phone, it takes awhile for it to "catch on"; especially when all the "reviewers" have been slamming this phone for various reasons.
That makes people slow down jumping on it, but this phone is really fantastic, EPIC battery, great display, fastest phone out right now, and, the more that people ignore the idiot reviewers, and grab this thing, the sooner the development will take off.
The "problem" is that it's so awesum stock out of the box, that there isnt a sense of urgency to mod it! :victory:
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I have no issues stock with root, i already debloated it and its running like a champ. I have the inverted mms app and am loving my phone right now.
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I'm loving it too. I'm rooted still and have installed XPOSED installer with "App Settings", "Xtheme engine beta 5"( with HUE theme) , and "Xblast" I've got the same inverted MMS. And I used APP Settings mod to changed the system UI, stock browser, and MMS ppi to 260. And used HUE theme for that AOSP blue feel. Used xblast for nav bar color change. I like the blue / Vanilla look. I guess that's cuz I'm a product of ICS and motoblur. I'm user android tweaker to speed things up a bit and to smooth out scrolling. And Android Tuner Pro to trim on boot and manage things a little. Snap dragon's Battery guru has always made a substantial difference in battery life, but its still in initial learning so I can't give a review on it for the G-Flex. But can't wait to get custom recovery for it and feel lot more comfortable diving into the modding/theming a good bit more.
I've noticed the stock launcher and settings, well really most the stock lg apps are very similar to Touchwiz. I've already tried out the Google Now launcher and "OK Google" does work from the home screen. You don't have to hit or exe any part of Google to be able to take advantage of the hot word command.
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That's 2 million process speed test called QUICKIE BENCHMARK. 2 Million in 718 ms or .718 seconds
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Well if u r willing to test head over to irc channel lgg2 get ahold of shellnutt2 and test for him on getting this bootloader unlocked.. i would but really dont have the money to buy another flex of something Went wrong. He is so close to cracking this bootloader. But he does not have this device. Thanks for intro and nice to meet u
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I have no issues stock with root, i already debloated it and its running like a champ. I have the inverted mms app and am loving my phone right now.
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Can i ask what u deleted for hot spot i need to either freeze or delete the t mobile one TIA
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Im on AT&T so it just works for me. I deleted any and all of tmobile stuff with titanium backup
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I I'm using an app called WIFI TETHER Beta 3.3. It seems to be working just fine. Doesn't ask or check account for subscription.
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Nice post @Matt. You probably seen me over @droidrzr.com , I ran the site for the first two years. I picked up the Gflex for ATT a few days ago.
TBH i love this phone. Yeah,its not running the latest version of Android and it has a few quirks however, the reviews from all over the net are killing this device imo.
Tethering, have you tried the good ole SQL hack just to see?
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fortunately, many of the smarter folks out there, that use XDA, dont pay alot of attention to what a bunch of DB reviewers think about phones..I had a one maxx b4 this, and it too was a great phone, slammed by most reviewers.
this phone is tons of fun, and we're pretty close to custom recovery,and a flood of roms.
Yes I have. The hack with SQL by going to settings storage/settings/ then change the authorization line (forgot exactly what it was called. I would know it if I saw it) from a 1 to a 0? Yeah I went looking for it. The way I understand it is they have figured out how to make that one obsolete. Seems as if its a little deeper into the their end of the monitoring rather than the phone just check account subscription. But I using the good ole "WIFI Tether beta 5" apk from a couple years ago and it seems to work. Hasn't added any more data to my WiFi tether usage. And yeah man I remember you. And droidrzr.com. those were the days when I was a crack flasher and barely knew my way around a RAZR. Don't know how many of those I bricked by not reading you couldn't install custom recovery except safe strap unless you had dev edition. Lmao. The RAZR forums always had cool devs willing to help and teach. I went to the GS4 and wow it was like a an ego fueled pissing contest between the biggest smart a$$e$ on the web. No one seemed to want to help just wanted to argue or try to point out that you don't know crap and they know it all. Glad to be out of their forums. And glad to see all these cats on the g flex forums have all been super cool and helpful.
They way it should be.
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Yeah @Matt if your not a complete moron and ask the same question over and over again peeps around here are cool.
Yeah, the razrs where the good ole days lol. I went to the note family about 2 years ago and have a note 3 too. I like the Gflex . The pure fact that we have fastboot access is a good sign. I've been talking to hashcode and a few others to see what van be done.
Also, most of the Gpro xposed stuff work on the Gflex if anyone was wondering.
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dirtydroidx said:
Yeah @Matt if your not a complete moron and ask the same question over and over again peeps around here are cool.
Yeah, the razrs where the good ole days lol. I went to the note family about 2 years ago and have a note 3 too. I like the Gflex . The pure fact that we have fastboot access is a good sign. I've been talking to hashcode and a few others to see what van be done.
Also, most of the Gpro xposed stuff work on the Gflex if anyone was wondering.
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You mentioned me by mistake I was reading the email trying to work out if you were calling me a moron and why ;D
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You mentioned me by mistake I was reading the email trying to work out if you were calling me a moron and why ;D
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Lmfao nooo not at all! I wad talking about XDA in general. ?
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Hey Matt I believe he was talking to you. Couldn't have been me. Lmao. Just messin with y'all. I just got the LG flash tool mobile support tool and kdz flash exe files set up on my pc and got the kdz file downloaded and moved to pc. Gonna try and get should of the cat shellnut2 I've heard about working on BL and custom recovery.
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LG Please know we hate this. Let us turn this annoying feature off

This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.
Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.
Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere
Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this
Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...
What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.
Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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your point is?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate on
XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts
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