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Might give up Nexus S for G2x :(

Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)

I also have a mytouch4g. I am going to keep my Nexus S because it is too good of a phone to sell in my opinion but I'm definitely selling the mytouch and getting the g2x.
Nexus S

The g2x looks very good but just cause it has a duel core
Doesn't make it better then the nexus s the ns will always get the first updates
over any phone on android plus the 1ghz hummingbird is a beast ..... I do
Like the g2x tv out options but when comes to speed the nexus s is just so fast I don't see how
they can make it any faster if I was u I would keep the nexus

512mb ram =(

Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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A lot of people really like the lg Optimus 2x. I also think I'm gonna get the g2x anyways because I like new gadgets. Paulobrien is one of the major android developers in my opinion, and he is using the 2x. Not trying to argue with you, just my reasons for wanting to get it, although I am not going to sell my nexus. I'm sure teamdouche will have someone with the g2x too, I think I saw koush or kmobs tweet about how they are gonna get it, I forgot which one of them
Nexus S

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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There are already many ROM options for the LG O2X. I don't see why the T-mobile G2X will not work with these.

Honestly I/O is right around the corner!!! I would wait to see what google has up its sleeves before I jump ship to the G2X. Its not all about hardware guys, the Nexus S is still one of the top of the line phones!!!

i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did

dario3040 said:
Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcore
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I'm sorry, but where are people getting this information from?
Everything on android uses threading or else the UI would be unusable. Threads are delegated to the available cores, more cores equals better performance.
You can have UI thread doing it's own thing and in the background have another thread calling sqlite, fetching a bitmap, crunching some numbers or whatever.
See that nice and smooth Flash video playing and your browser still being able to do other things ..threading.
You may not notice it on light applications, but anything that does heavier work will benefit from multiple cores.

why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol

AllGamer said:
i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did
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Lets make that NO dev atention
JD

bbm21 said:
why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol
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I don't know lmao, I posted it in the General Section of the Nexus S and it got moved?

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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Are you sure the Tegra 2 GPU is weaker than the SGX540? I lag on my Nexus S playing need for speed :/.
The screen is worse, I would miss the Super Amoled, maybe it's best to wait for the Galaxy S 2 and skip the G2X all together

The G2x does look nice but I've been spoiled to much with the super amoleddisplay on my vibrant so I'll stick with the SGS2.
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This thread wasn't even move to right section
anyways release date announced
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none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543

demo23019 said:
This thread wasn't even move to right section
anyways release date announced
none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543
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Nope, will have a Mali 400 quad core gpu
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JupiterDroid said:
Lets make that NO dev atention
JD
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Its quite sad too because it's a very very capable phone
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Serious_Beans said:
Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)
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To welcome yourself back to the random reboot days? Jk
Hopefully due to completely different software, hopefully the g2x has none of the 2z issues.

Yeah, it's a great phone, but the screen :/, after using SAMOLED I can't go back to LCD.

[Q] I Find My Galaxy Note n7000 slower than my Galaxy S2 i9100

Hi Guys!
I had SGS2 i9100 for 3months,i recently bought n7000 Galaxy Note as i was inspired by my SGS2
But i am quite disappointed as both phone have same Exynos Chipset and Note is Higher Clocked, still i find most of transitions very smooth on SGS2 then newly bought unrooted 2day used Galaxy Note,i dont get it why
By Transitions in mean pinch out on home screen,and pinch out in main menu,while i was scrolling in android market,i dont like it at all,
When check taskmanager>Clear RAM 400+ memory is used while when i bought my SGS2 it hardly had 200+ used memory when barely apps were installed on it
You Guys have any idea about it? or is it the same with all G-Note's or the HD res on Ginger Bread Makes it slower ?

Removing all the crapware from samsung made my note much faster. I had a s2 before and they give me the impression that they are equally fast.
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Both of My Phones are on Stock Rom ,did removing bloatware made transitions smoother?

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bartzeeland said:
Removing all the crapware from samsung made my note much faster. I had a s2 before and they give me the impression that they are equally fast.
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Do you remember what you removed?

The processor in the note has to push more pixels than the processor in the SGSII as well.
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I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB

I must admit when I bought my Note, it is pretty much laggy as compared to my previous S2..
I made a research on this before I actually purchase my unit and I was fully prepared on what I might get after my purchase.
Coming from the S2 and to the Note.. Yes, you can really discern and compare the UI performance of the two devices.. But!
Here's the cache.. 'STOCK'... Something that you might need to ponder....
When I flashed my Note to a new custom ROM... (and bit of tweaks here and there)
Hell yeah, My Note's UI smoothness was comparable if not exceeded already the UI buttery flow of my S2...
So, I guess you may need to consider that option, if it pains on your part to see your Note lags behind your S2....
Just my two cents......

The screen resolution of GNote is much higher than SII.
I can see this big difference especially on my galaxy tab 7.7

kelvin fong said:
The screen resolution of GNote is much higher than SII.
I can see this big difference especially on my galaxy tab 7.7
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Exactly. Even though the CPU of the Note is slightly faster than the SG2's CPU, it doesn't compensate the difference in resolution, so finally the Note is somewhat slower...

This resolution thing is absolutely ridicolous.
Iphone 4 and Iphone 4s have more resolution then a sgs2 and they are smooth.
My Asus EEEpad Transformer was slow as hell and now with Ics Update it flies.
So I personally think that Gnote is slow and laggy only because a bad software optimization and not for a lack of hardware specs.
Just my 2 cents.

IPhone 4s doesn't have a higher resolution than gnote, but does have a higher dpi. Flashing a custom rom can surely improve the smoothness.
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inflamess said:
I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB
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Buddy you are root but which Custom ICS you are suggesting me Cyanogen?
actually i am big time Touchwiz fan Just because of my S2 any idea when is official ICS coming out April? any other suggestions?
Thank You Every One so so Much for replies
i though the Same that Ginger Bread Might be issue

inflamess said:
I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB
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Buddy Which Custom Rom ?,i am a touchwiz user any suggestions?
Thanks All
can someone tell me why hitting thanks button or reply or quote refreshes the page on IE9 :'(

letters_to_cleo said:
I must admit when I bought my Note, it is pretty much laggy as compared to my previous S2..
I made a research on this before I actually purchase my unit and I was fully prepared on what I might get after my purchase.
Coming from the S2 and to the Note.. Yes, you can really discern and compare the UI performance of the two devices.. But!
Here's the cache.. 'STOCK'... Something that you might need to ponder....
When I flashed my Note to a new custom ROM... (and bit of tweaks here and there)
Hell yeah, My Note's UI smoothness was comparable if not exceeded already the UI buttery flow of my S2...
So, I guess you may need to consider that option, if it pains on your part to see your Note lags behind your S2....
Just my two cents......
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Which Custom Rom you Used?
S2 was my First Android phone since is Used balckberry OS and iOS and Seriously S2 made full time Android user,even i saw other devices with friends like arc s and so even i liked em but they had lags,i though Note would be better but now i think only S2 was good for me
I love galaxy note,better shape larger display but laggy :'(

mcreego said:
This resolution thing is absolutely ridicolous.
Iphone 4 and Iphone 4s have more resolution then a sgs2 and they are smooth.
My Asus EEEpad Transformer was slow as hell and now with Ics Update it flies.
So I personally think that Gnote is slow and laggy only because a bad software optimization and not for a lack of hardware specs.
Just my 2 cents.
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Well You're Right Pal about 4s & 4, But you are forgeting something,iOS is made by Apple just for iPhone,iPad etc but Android is made by Google for many of Device's,so Apple has only one flagship device a year with its own OS so they build that OS for its hardware,but Android has lots of Devices only Nexus Series (Google Phones) have the OS developed for them so its clear true support for HD res came with Galaxy Nexus on Android i hope ICS is Fix for This :'(

kelvin fong said:
IPhone 4s doesn't have a higher resolution than gnote, but does have a higher dpi. Flashing a custom rom can surely improve the smoothness.
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Yup True! which rom are you suggesting? i love stock roms
Once again thank you everyone

crossmedia said:
Which Custom Rom you Used?
S2 was my First Android phone since is Used balckberry OS and iOS and Seriously S2 made full time Android user,even i saw other devices with friends like arc s and so even i liked em but they had lags,i though Note would be better but now i think only S2 was good for me
I love galaxy note,better shape larger display but laggy :'(
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never under estimate your Galaxy Note... as they say, It is the big brother of the S2... It can do things more than what your S2 can do.. (specifically by using it as digitized tablet)
Anyway.. im using CheckRom, I don't know if that matters or not. I have some tweaks as well that I personally made and installed and made my Note much more fluid in terms of UI performance and battery management..
Cheers

I suggest rocket rom v19_1 because it supports stock look. Actually I don't like the modification made in the latest version of rocket rom.
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The Most Honest and Unbiased Review of the Nexus 4

I've had a chance to play around with the Nexus 4 for about a week now and I'm ready to give my full review on it.
Display:
The Nexus 4 has one of, if not the most, beautiful displays on any device I have every used. I know the word "retina" is thrown around a lot, but seriously this display is absolutely gorgeous, especially on full brightness. The viewing angles are the highest of any device i have ever used. Text is crisp on any app you use and I have still not seen any pixels. I have read that the One X's display is better, but since I have never used it, I cannot say if it is or not. But anyway, this screen is so bright and vivid and the colors really do pop. I wish the navigation bar buttons did not take up so much room or if the entire bezel was used for the screen, because, in my opinion, they take up too much space.
Design:
I believe this phone has the best design out of any phone in existence, The front is very flush and when the screen is off, you cannot even tell where it ends and where the screen begins. The rubber like band around the phone makes it very grippy and does not slip out of the hand. The back is absolutely gorgeous with the flush glass and the pixelated design really is beautiful. It is one of those things you have to see in person. Although there is a plastic banding in front of the rubber banding that is prone to nicks and scratches, like the T-Mobile Galaxy S II I had previously. There are reports of peoples phones getting very hot, the screen turning yellow, some rattlings from the camera housing, and some other problems with the hardware. This is expected for first round devices. My phones only problem is I too hear the rattling if I shake my phone, but I only hear it if I try to hear it. Another problem is the phone SLIDES OFF OF EVERYTHING. Seriously I bet my of the people that break this thing will be because it slid off of something. A case prevents this though.
Performance:
Stock Android 4.2 Jelly Bean has one of the smoothest UI's of any device. It even tops my iPad 3. There is absolutely no lag in the OS whatsoever. This is because "Project Butter." When you touch the screen, the CPU gets fired up and is ready to go instantly. You can see this if you go into SetCpu and watch how the amount of CPU speed increases the exact moment you tap the screen. All of the stock apps run perfectly. (Except theres no December in the Peoples app ) The app switcher is just amazing and fast. It is so much better than any other app switcher available and it is great to have a dedicated button for it. The Nexus 4 is great at running graphics and performance intensive games like dead trigger, cod zombies, shadow gun, mini motor racing etc. all of these games have no lag whatsoever, because of the 1.5ghz quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram this thing is packing. Also, Google Now is amazing and completely integrated into your life. You will fall in love with all of its features like weather, traffic updates, sports, flights, translations, appointments, and regular search. But all of this amazing performance and features come at a price...
Battery Life...
I wish I could say this 2100mAh battery keeps this thing alive all day but alas, it does not. If you are a heavy user, which I am guessing most XDA users are, it will not last you throughout the day. On low brightness, sync off, and location services off, I find myself having to fully charge it again before the day is over. Now if you are a moderate user, you will not experience this as much. But let me give you an example of what happened today: I was at a restaurant with family for Thanksgiving. I left the house at 5:50 PM with 95% battery. At dinner I used the phone for a little over an hour and a half just browsing the web like looking at laptops on tiger direct, reading gizmodo, endgadget, cracked, etc, and when I got home at around 8:30 I had 46% battery left. I s**t you not. So heavy users beware. I hate using cases, especially for a phone this beautiful, but I might have to find a battery case to get myself through the day.
Storage:
This phone not having an SD Card slot like most android phones is a real killer, especially because it only has 8gb and 16gb. I unfortunately got the 8gb. I knew I was not gonna get the full 8gb, on my iPod touch 8gb I had roughly 7gb of usable space, but on the Nexus 4 you get barely over 5gb of usable space, and that just sucks for most people. Using the cloud to save pictures and music does help, but you can not get as many high graphics games because of this low storage. Which sucks because the Nexus 4 is great when playing high performance games. Again, I would highly recommend getting the 16gb. It is only $50 more. Im most likely gonna sell my Nexus for as much as I can and pay the difference for the 16gb when more are in stock. Hopefully Google does what they did with the Nexus 7 and makes the 16gb the same price as the 8gb and makes a 32gb model.
Camera:
This phone has a great camera. When you are outside, it takes some of the best pictures for a phone. Even the front camera does. And little things like how you tap the screen to access the many camera settings and the new photospehre, you will just fall in love with them. All of my photosphere pictures stitched perfectly. This device is not very good in low light situations, though. This is helped with the devices on board flash though. You can also easily edit your photos through the stock gallery app, and there are plenty of editing options for all of you instagrammers out there. They are mostly all very nice and work well. There is one problem I did have with the camera though. The HDR setting did take better photos, but I could rarely get them to focus, even when I focused manually. Maybe a software problem? Hopefully this is fixed in future updates.
Mobile Stuff/Miscellaneous:
Call quality on this phone is great and I have not got any dropped calls or any complaints from people on the other end. Text messages and picture messages send quickly. The new keyboard with its swype like feature is very good and accurate. I get great speeds on HSPA+. I am in Chicago and can get 25mbps download and 5mbps upload, which is great. You can also get it to connect to LTE if your network uses band 4 for it, like T-Mobile's will later this year, which is great for us Nexus 4 users on T-Mobile. The voice to text is absolutely amazing and almost always gets what you say. I have used Siri and voice dictation on iOS and it just does not even compare. I love how it types what you say as you say it.
Conclusion :
The Nexus 4 right now, in my opinion, is the best android phone out there. And maybe the best phone overall. It is a great phone at a great starting price. This thing has an amazing screen and has no lag in whatever you are doing. Really the only thing that kills it is the storage. If this had a micro SD slot is would just be so much better than it already is. The camera is great when outdoors and when you have sufficient light, flash helps a lot in low light, and the many camera and gallery features are great. The battery life is sub par, but when you're at home or work, you can almost always give it a quick charge when you need it, but you can not just add more storage when you need it. (Except if you use OTG devices.) I would highly recommend this phone to anyone out there looking for a great device. It is not complicated at all and it very noob friendly.
If you have any questions or want me to add anything please just comment or PM me and I will try to help as much as I can! I will add more to this thread if I have more to say later on.

great review!

tuffballa said:
great review!
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Thanks!

Yeah pretty good review. I find battery life to be very good on the N4 believe it or not. I reach almost 5 hours on screen time with 15 hours off charge. Thats with heavy use. My brightness is on auto, i browse the web switching from cellular to wifi depending on where im at, sync is off and i turn it on during the day to check my emails, stuff like that. Do a lot of tapatalk, few calls, lots of texting and little youtubing. I use it normally, not to fool myself and try to reach 2 days just to be satisfied. Oh yeah lol, since last night im using a custom kernel.

Great, unbiased review! This review made me want the Nexus 4 even more! Hopefully I can get one soon. :fingers-crossed:

barondebxl said:
Yeah pretty good review. I find battery life to be very good on the N4 believe it or not. I reach almost 5 hours on screen time with 15 hours off charge. Thats with heavy use. My brightness is on auto, i browse the web switching from cellular to wifi depending on where im at, sync is off and i turn it on during the day to check my emails, stuff like that. Do a lot of tapatalk, few calls, lots of texting and little youtubing. I use it normally, not to fool myself and try to reach 2 days just to be satisfied. Oh yeah lol, since last night im using a custom kernel.
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Please share with us the custom kernel you are using. Thx.
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Out with the family for thanksgiving for 2ish hours and using the phone for 1 and a half of those... The true spirit of thanksgiving!
Nice review though
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llustig said:
Please share with us the custom kernel you are using. Thx.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34480134
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cyberkid2002 said:
Out with the family for thanksgiving for 2ish hours and using the phone for 1 and a half of those... The true spirit of thanksgiving!
Nice review though
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Yeah I knew that was gonna look bad but I had to say it. Anyway my family can be dull at times
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34480134
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That's impressive :good:

ctowne said:
That's impressive :good:
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I saw you post it before which is great, but I cannot go through the day with service sync off. To me that just defeats the whole point of the phone. Perhaps with an incremental update battery life will get better. Seems maybe too much stuff is syncing in the background and is keeping the CPU from sleeping. 5 hours is good though... I'd like more but that's really all I need.

ctowne said:
That's impressive :good:
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And I was using it heavy, like there was no tomorrow
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Jayrod1980 said:
I saw you post it before which is great, but I cannot go through the day with service sync off. To me that just defeats the whole point of the phone. Perhaps with an incremental update battery life will get better. Seems maybe too much stuff is syncing in the background and is keeping the CPU from sleeping. 5 hours is good though... I'd like more but that's really all I need.
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I turn on sync every hour or so. Just don't need it on all the time unless I'm expecting an important email or something. But people should use their phones as they normally do, not just to reach a certain amount of screen time cause that's just ridiculous. So yeah, if you need sync on then just leave it on, personally I don't need it on all the time.
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Why isn't your phone awake when the screen is on? I can't really remember but I think that on every Android i've had, when the screen is on, the phone is Awake

Picked up my N4 today and have been getting to grips with it, initial impressions are. It's fast though have had slow down. Gets very hot during anything using GPS or when playing games. Camera is average and when using the flash images are washed out. It's a bit early to say much about the battery life but after 1hr38mins, its down to 73%. build quality seems good. I thought it would be a bigger leap up from my old phone but am a little disappointed currently. I will continue but if it doesn't impress further it will go back. Do love jelly bean!
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raul90 said:
Why isn't your phone awake when the screen is on? I can't really remember but I think that on every Android i've had, when the screen is on, the phone is Awake
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Good question, I have no clue. I just checked my current stats as I'm writing this comment, I'm 9 hours off charge with 2h 15 min on screen time and no awake time
I checked my battery stats when I had the note 2 and the line is all blue when the screen is on. I don't know....
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you used your phone for an hour and a half at family thanksgiving dinner??

I think I regret buying the Nexus 4

I had the HTC One S before, but wanted the Google Nexus experience (vanilla Android, latest updates (and on this phone compared to the One S quad core, 2GB RAM, etc..) and the price was too good to pass up. I mean, the value for money with this phone is amazing, I don't think I have ever seen, or will ever see better, but...
Coming from the One S, it seems like a huge step down. The phone seems a lot bigger in comparison (mainly width and especially depth), yet when taking into consideration the on screen back/home buttons, the screen is pretty much the same size, but a little wider (maybe 5mm)
Also, when doing a Quadrant test, the One S looks much smoother on the video parts, and the overall score is miles better (score of 6452 vs 4798) on everything
One S v Nexus 4
CPU: 9211 v 10402
RAM: 12383 v 7020
I/O: 7408 v 4149
2D: 1014 v 247
3D: 2245 v 2173
The One S also has HTC Sense which I like (but can live without)
Maybe I will get used to this phone, or just appreciate it more when the next update comes out, but in the mean time I don't really see a huge improvement in speed/responsiveness or the screen over the One S
I can imagine it being a huge improvement over plenty of other phones however, but I think the One S is unbelievably underrated and actually more powerful than I thought it was before. I feel like the Nexus 4 is a downgrade for me right now. I understand the Nexus is thicker because of the wireless charging plate? Well, this is something I would give up for a slimmer phone, especially considering the phone doesn't come with a wireless charging unit.
I don't wanna sound like I'm just bashing the phone, is there anything I should try out on the Nexus 4 that I would be missing on other phones (already tried Photosphere which is great btw)

There is already a nexus 4 vs any other phone thread present as a sticky in which this should have been posted. Didn't need a whole new thread dedicated to this
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Honestly, noone cares...

I think I regret reading your thread

ingenious247 said:
I think I regret reading your thread
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Awe man you beat me to it:good:

Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.

I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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badboy47 said:
I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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This. Quadrant is a random number generator at best.

naripsta said:
Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.
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I like the Nexus 4, but I really like the One S too
In fact one thing I just noticed (found in another Google search) is if you put them side by side on a table they're the same depth (of course the One S is slimmer in the middle)
Maybe I need to get used to the feel of it...
I'm gonna use the Nexus 4 for one full week instead of the One S and see how it goes
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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Nah I don't care about the Quadrant score, but the scores just really surprised me. I think the RAM comes down to LPDDR2 (low power DDR2 instead of DDR2) and I don't know about the I/O (thought it was all flash storage)
The GPU results surprised me though (the video looks smoother) as I thought the N4 had a dedicated GPU chip?
One of the problems I think is everybody compares phones to the One X, nobody has really done any great One S v Nexus 4 comparisons

The nexus 4 runs fast, is a great phone to use, has sufficient battery life for me, and cost half of the HTC phone you mentioned.
I really don't see the point in running benchmarks all day and not worrying about real usage and real cost. If you want to be a benchmark jockey you will always be running after the latest and greatest phone and lusting after every new phone ever 2 months.
The nexus 4 is a great phone and a solid purchase. If you regret buying it, sell it and get something else. But if your nexus 4 isn't defective in some way realize that the problem is with you and your inability to be happy with anything, and not with the phone that is a great performer and great value. I can already see that you're the kind of guy who will never be happy with anything, as you owned an HTC One S and then bought a phone that came out 6 months later. You won't be happy with anything as long as you see something shinier. You are the perfect customer.

Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
edit.. also '3dmark' test will show you the adreno320 in the nexus4 blowing everything else away.

You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.

meangreenie said:
Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
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Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out

bsaidmalta said:
You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.
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leave it out

Quadrant doesnt like 4.2. Antutu and 3Dmark are better guages of performance.

LooieENG said:
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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Hmm, not sure really. The Nexus 4 is pretty much that, a Nexus device with pure Android. I can see why it may (not saying that it does for you) be boring or not as flashy. But there's not much to try out for the Nexus 4. Everything is pretty basic and minimalistic, and that's why some go for the Nexus I suppose.
With the N4, you get a decent device that can run with the best of them. If you're into flashing ROMs, pretty much almost every ROM posted here will work with very very minimal bugs, if any bugs at that. Although the One S isn't a bad device at all, so it's really up to you. :good:

My Nexus 4 absolutely fly's.. it speeds through everything.
It's all well and good having a number on a screen but I owned a HTC ONE briefly and many apps on that lagged yet run fine on my Nexus 4?

Oh great another one of these threads. IB4L
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Can you please give your phone to me? I will pay you 50 $ because its so not good and you can go back to your wonderfull htc one s... :banghead:
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LooieENG said:
Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out
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yea, if you are running your device at 1.8ghz+ and have other things optimized(custom rom/custom kernel), itll score high. at stock speeds and the stock rom/kernel it will never get close.
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about xperia z and lag?

whssssup!!!
i see friends with galaxy 3 the gui and the touch so smooth
why our phone is not smooth but always little laggy?
is it the rom?
or the gui?

Nearly every phone I have had is laggy at the start. Give it a few updates and it should iron most of it out.
It also depends what you are comparing on eeach device, what is running in the background and how demanding the widgets are on the home screens.
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After over 2 months with the phone.... what lag ? Seriously, what lag ? And it's not a sarcasm or anything, I have honestly never noticed any lags on my phone - I am using just one widget and less than 10 icons though

bubu23 said:
whssssup!!!
i see friends with galaxy 3 the gui and the touch so smooth
why our phone is not smooth but always little laggy?
is it the rom?
or the gui?
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probably the rom...S3 lag too when it first came out.

I am using Xperia Z now more than month.. And I came here exactly for that reason and to see does anyone else have similar problems.. Switching trough screens, launching apps - it's all more less OK.. But I have terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) lag in keyboard.. It is soooo annoying !!! Anyone else have similar problem and do you guys have any solution for that ?
Thanks

ogzon said:
I am using Xperia Z now more than month.. And I came here exactly for that reason and to see does anyone else have similar problems.. Switching trough screens, launching apps - it's all more less OK.. But I have terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) lag in keyboard.. It is soooo annoying !!! Anyone else have similar problem and do you guys have any solution for that ?
Thanks
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With the keyboard I only get lag when typing a reply in forums. But other than that I don't get lag.

Akiainavas said:
After over 2 months with the phone.... what lag ? Seriously, what lag ? And it's not a sarcasm or anything, I have honestly never noticed any lags on my phone - I am using just one widget and less than 10 icons though
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What he said...
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No lag here. This is a case of what the user has running on his phone. What background apps is running.
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The only lag i get is when switching between home screen albeit very minor thou and not enough to be annoying. Thou, i have like 5 pages filled with widgets and apps folders

I never get lag on the homescreen. I only get lag on some apps not optimized for the xperia z
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I'm not getting any lag at all. Been a month I've had this phone.
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ligerblitz said:
I'm not getting any lag at all. Been a month I've had this phone.
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first thx all for replay
second:i see that not all the people know what is lag,i show to my friend today the features with lag and he told me its not lag.
strang....
anyway for those who got lag i try the doom kernel with 1836 max and 384 min with govenor interactive and its way better
the batt life suck but i can handle that .

Coming from a S3 and S3 4G I can say this phone is definitely faster.. Less lag..
It's your background processes I think.

what backup process?when i press to see what in my process the square down the phone nothing running everything cleaned

bubu23 said:
what backup process?when i press to see what in my process the square down the phone nothing running everything cleaned
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Not backup - background process..
Same story here.. Everything is closed but my keyboard is unbelievably slow.. I am Samsung user (Galaxy S, S2, S3, Note2) and this is my first Sony device.. I never had any problems like this on Samsung.. I really want to like this phone but I don't understand why such lag..
Battery life is also bad (specially for me after Note 2) but I can live with that.. But having phone which I paid 600 eur and having to ask people to write me on my other number (on iPhone) so I could normally type on Viber and others..Just bad..
PS.
I don't have too much apps installed.. Everything is on stock.. I just rooted phone and that's all..

ogzon said:
Not backup - background process..
Same story here.. Everything is closed but my keyboard is unbelievably slow.. I am Samsung user (Galaxy S, S2, S3, Note2) and this is my first Sony device.. I never had any problems like this on Samsung.. I really want to like this phone but I don't understand why such lag..
Battery life is also bad (specially for me after Note 2) but I can live with that.. But having phone which I paid 600 eur and having to ask people to write me on my other number (on iPhone) so I could normally type on Viber and others..Just bad..
PS.
I don't have too much apps installed.. Everything is on stock.. I just rooted phone and that's all..
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Coming from a galaxy s 3 32gig, Xperia Z is way faster, has not had one random reboot or freeze in 4 weeks and has absolutely no lag... homescreen is also smooth.
13-14 hrs between charges with always 4-4.5hrs screen on time used, quite heavy daily use.
The ONLY lag I ever see is opening camera for the first time. A known issue but I can live with waiting 2 - 3 seconds for that.
UK 434 stock, rooted in Australia.
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bubu23 said:
whssssup!!!
i see friends with galaxy 3 the gui and the touch so smooth
why our phone is not smooth but always little laggy?
is it the rom?
or the gui?
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I am assure Xperia Z is much smoother than S III as I am S III owner previously. Unless your friends S III is using CM, AOKP, AOSP ROM, then different talk, most phone run in CM, AOKP and AOSP is much smoother than stock ROM.
Some user report keyboard lag? I never had this issue at all.
I am picky on smooth animation, so I know what is lag. I cannot said Xperia Z extremely smooth, but it is far better than S III, that one is confirm.
The only slow is when opening Camera, this is slow when open, not lagging issue.
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By the way, I just notice a small change at animation part can actually make the phone much more smoother in animation.
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Go to Settings - Developer options.
Change the default value of Window animation scale & Animator duration scale both from 1x to .5x
Don't change Transition animation scale to .5x as this will make the animation too fast.
I am picky on animation, so I notice it. With above setting it actually faster a bit and shorten the animation duration, which will reduce noticeable by my picky eye notice on the not enough smooth animation when opening apps, especially opening the Phone from main page and also when pressing the home button to return to home from your last page at main launcher.

I only notice lag when calling from "call log". it seems to take forever from when I click on the contact to start dialing??

Yellow_Racing said:
I only notice lag when calling from "call log". it seems to take forever from when I click on the contact to start dialing??
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I don't have this issue. But it's maybe because I frequently clear call log.

slyviper1700 said:
I never get lag on the homescreen. I only get lag on some apps not optimized for the xperia z
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Yesterday, I happen to use my friend's Xperia Z and had such a problem with lagging of home screen. And the apps page was slow and really I am not impressed with Xperia Z at all. My friend is willing to sell it as he paid so much money here in Israel and got such a phone whereas his iPhone 4 even has no any problems. I do not know what to say to him. I downloaded Nova launcher but it helped a little bit, still laggy.
p.s. I did cleaned up everything and no synchronization is on, nothing running in background ans so... I checked everything and it is strange...I do not like Sony now anymore. I insisted my friend to buy Sony but now he is so unsatisfied that I feel bad and cannot do anything about it. he put so much money that could buy new iPhone 5 without lagging and no problems.
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Andrewtst said:
I am assure Xperia Z is much smoother than S III as I am S III owner previously. Unless your friends S III is using CM, AOKP, AOSP ROM, then different talk, most phone run in CM, AOKP and AOSP is much smoother than stock ROM.
Some user report keyboard lag? I never had this issue at all.
I am picky on smooth animation, so I know what is lag. I cannot said Xperia Z extremely smooth, but it is far better than S III, that one is confirm.
The only slow is when opening Camera, this is slow when open, not lagging issue.
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By the way, I just notice a small change at animation part can actually make the phone much more smoother in animation.
Go to Settings - Developer options.
Change the default value of Window animation scale & Animator duration scale both from 1x to .5x
Don't change Transition animation scale to .5x as this will make the animation too fast.
I am picky on animation, so I notice it. With above setting it actually faster a bit and shorten the animation duration, which will reduce noticeable by my picky eye notice on the not enough smooth animation when opening apps, especially opening the Phone from main page and also when pressing the home button to return to home from your last page at main launcher.
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If you updated your phone Xperia Z to Android 4.2.2 than you are wrong with saying that it much smoother than S III. No way. I like Sense 5 UI generally and it is fastest and not laggy at all. But I can tell that TouchWiz is way better than Sony's UI.