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I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
Same problem here 2.3.5 jvs
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eresac said:
I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
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I've only experienced this with games, I think it might be because apps/games are not optimized for Gingerbread
Well it seems I'm not alone.
Any suggestion is welcome.
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
BHuvan goyal said:
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
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You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
eresac said:
You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
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Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
upichie said:
Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
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Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
eresac said:
Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
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There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
upichie said:
There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
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This means that Froyo is better in memory usage, at least for the SGS, I guess.
I simply didn't take care about that when decided to upgrade, thinking "SGS is powerful enough". Think I'll have to investigate.
Anyway thanks for all your support.
Hi,
I have a rooted Galaxy S. I have almost 2 gigabytes for /data partition, and when I check free memory for example in Root explorer, there is 1,12 gigabytes free. However, when I tried to install Wind-up knight game from the market, I couldn't start download as it said I have no room for it. But root explorer says I do have. What is wrong? Doesn't market recognise that I've repartitioned the internal memory? Or what is it? I even moved some apps to SD, but it didn't help at all..
/datadata is where apps store information. If this space is full, you can't install apps; if there's no room at all, apps will force close if they try to write new data here. In Root Explorer, go to this folder—it will say the free space near the top. I'd check that first.
Of course, you said you already tried moving apps to the sd card, which would fix this problem. But keep in mind some games are 20+ MB, whereas lots of apps are <1 MB. If you need more space, simply uninstall apps or move them to the sd card.
Hopefully that works!
If you can't install apps from market , but can install from apk-s you should clear your cache from recovery (not dalvik cache). And clear market cache data from app manager.
Hope we solved your problem.
Something I realized: As I just translated the finnish error message to english, it doesn't tell enough about the problem. The real message is about "insufficient space". And I found out other users have had this same problem.. tried wiping the cache, dalvik cache and market application data, but it's no use..
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perttu.tuovinen said:
Something I realized: As I just translated the finnish error message to english, it doesn't tell enough about the problem. The real message is about "insufficient space". And I found out other users have had this same problem.. tried wiping the cache, dalvik cache and market application data, but it's no use..
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Maybe you should read the answers to the thread you posted about this problem. You know, considering that's probably why you posted this thread.
The only thread I posted questions about this problem to is THIS thread..?
And the only answers I've seen are doing those things I already did.
Sent from a Galaxy S far, far away
didnt work
ppeterpp said:
If you can't install apps from market , but can install from apk-s you should clear your cache from recovery (not dalvik cache). And clear market cache data from app manager.
Hope we solved your problem.
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Unfortunately i have the same problem
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Error downloading "blablabla. There is insufficient space on the device.
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Stil have 1.8 GB.
Hope some one will be able to help me out this is anoying. (tryed already to downgrade market..... )
perttu.tuovinen said:
The only thread I posted questions about this problem to is THIS thread..?
And the only answers I've seen are doing those things I already did.
Sent from a Galaxy S far, far away
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Don't blame them. They probably didn't hang around XDA often enough to notice when this problem was first raised a year ago.
Here's the problem:
Wind up knight - size ~41 MB
I9000 Cache - Size ~39 MB
See the problem there? No matter what the hell you do, you can't download wind up knight from the market without modifying the cache size somehow. I remember someone posting a thread explaining how he managed to do a symlink for the cache, but there was quite a long time ago. When the I9000 was released, the market has an app size limit of about 25 MB. Over time this has been increased gradually and quite a number of people have expressed worries that one day the limit will eventually exceed the cache size. Well, it has happened now, and there's not a lot that we can do about it.
So you're saying that we have to live with this issue?
Edit: We can still solve this by downloading the APK's using the computer right?
deleted. posted in wrong section. my mistake
smiles.smiley said:
So you're saying that we have to live with this issue?
Edit: We can still solve this by downloading the APK's using the computer right?
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Yes, since the installation process does not use the cache partition.
Fox, please stop posting random crap just because you have no idea what's going on. You are not helping at all in any way.
As for solutions, well the MIUI rom seems to have a bigger cache size.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/27854-symlink-market-download/
A possible solution - I haven't tested this myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-941339.html
Specifically, this line of code:
Code:
su
mkdir /sdcard/tempcache
mount -o bind /sdcard/tempcache /cache
The last method looks promising.
Edit: Well guess what? It works! Blimey. That was easy. Plus since its temporary, everything goes back to the original state after a reboot, so you don't have to worry about breaking stuff (unlike symlinks).
All credits go to danieldmm
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Don't blame them. They probably didn't hang around XDA often enough to notice when this problem was first raised a year ago.
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Fox, please stop posting random crap just because you have no idea what's going on. You are not helping at all in any way.
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Oh, of course not. We know nothing, and you're the freakin' messiah. Right.
I've helped more people with similar issues than you can probably count to, buddy. It's not my fault the OP fails at providing accurate information to diagnose a problem, as surely I can't memorize the size of every download on the market, just to help him out. Leave the condescending attitude for people that can't, won't, or don't help others, not for people helping diagnose an issue.
And yes, the fix you posted works just fine. Not that anyone other than you would know, right? Please...
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Oh, of course not. We know nothing, and you're the freakin' messiah. Right.
I've helped more people with similar issues than you can probably count to, buddy. It's not my fault the OP fails at providing accurate information to diagnose a problem, as surely I can't memorize the size of every download on the market, just to help him out. Leave the condescending attitude for people that can't, won't, or don't help others, not for people helping diagnose an issue.
And yes, the fix you posted works just fine. Not that anyone other than you would know, right? Please...
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Hey, let me gloat over my success for a while would you?
To be fair, I think his post was clear enough. If you google around a bit the wind up knight download problem has appeared quite a few times.
But what Fox did was just to post whatever that he thinks is the problem instead of even trying to diagnose the situation. I have asked questions before and received too many non-relevant solutions that obviously wouldn't work. It gets a little frustration if it seems like people aren't even trying to listen to you.
Use semaphore kernel and enable 50 mb cache
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Hi Everyone,I am new to the forum(But following it from many days)
As the title suggests, after I updated the firmware through Official LG PC Suite, i am experiencing massive lags.
Used RAM is always at approx 700 Mb. Opening more than 1 tab in Chrome phone lag badly. There are launcher redraws and much more.
Tried a factory reset but it made no difference.
Usually wiping cache, valpik and resetting to factory settings before flashing solves the problem, and most of the time its an app, usually a battery saver app with permissions to modify CPU speeds that causes this.
Also please stop capitalizing each and every word in you sentence. It's not a title!
elfen.lied said:
Usually wiping cache, valpik and resetting to factory settings before flashing solves the problem, and most of the time its an app, usually a battery saver app with permissions to modify CPU speeds that causes this.
Also please stop capitalizing each and every word in you sentence. It's not a title!
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Thanks for your quick reply. I do not have any battery saver app. I did not factory reset the device before updating.
LG 4X HD said:
Thanks for your quick reply. I do not have any battery saver app. I did not factory reset the device before updating.so what can i do now? Also i may sound dumb but what is valpik??
Btw,thanks for your suggestion on my writing.
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You should carry out a factory reset AFTER the upgrade. Wiping cache and dalvik (not valpik) cache is done from a custom recovery, which I preusme you have not installed on your phone?
Same problem.... I reflashed kdz v20a ,after that I did factory reset...used backup to restore filles...
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Same problem.... I reflashed kdz v20a ,after that I did factory reset...used backup to restore filles...
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Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
LG 4X HD said:
Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
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Your not using uk v20a are you? I'm having real problems with it and I can not set cpu speeds. They just keep reverting back to original or 51mhz. I need help with this.
LG 4X HD said:
Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
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No....still lags
Yes, I was using the UK version and didn't see any problems, but didn't try to change the CPU speeds.
Now running CM, so can't confirm for you.
LG 4X HD said:
Hi Everyone,I Am New To The Forum(But Following It From Many Days)
As The Title Suggests,After I Updated the Firmware Through Official LG PC Suite,Phone is Lagging Too Much.I Know That There Is Already A Similar Thread But It Seemed To Be Dead.
Used RAM Is Always at approx 700 Mb.Opening More Than 1 tab in Chrome Lags the Whole Phone.If I Press The Home Button,Then All icons And Widgets Disappear And Slowly Build Up Again.Tap On Apps Button And It Takes 3 Second To Open The List.Phone Lags In Almost All Areas.
As Suggested By Some Other Members,I Tried To Factory Reset Phone But It Did Not Help.Someone Please Give A Solution,
Btw,Before Updating To Jelly Bean,I Was Not Rooted.Nor I am Now Rooted.Please Give A Easy Solution As I Don't Know Much About Flashing,etc.
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I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
Emmanuel2000 said:
I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
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So,this is the only way to get rid of lag? Would V20b solve it? I do not want to rollback to ics because i am new to these things and do not know how to do it perfectly.
Emmanuel2000 said:
I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
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Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
SimonTS said:
Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
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I followed instructions correctly maybe i am the one of the unlucky people??
Btw,how much RAM Is used and free in your device?
SimonTS said:
Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
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the only way you can follow instructions incorrectly is if you brick the phone... and i found a lot of issues with jb mainly performance.
Lagg is resolved with a factory reset. Dont restore your files and apps just install them again after factory reset! Not all files and apss from ICS have same settings and functionality on JB so that can lead to lagg..
RAM is here to be used,if RAM isnt used then your phone isnt performing his full potential! If RAM isnt used that means that apps in the phone are not working,so when you open them you will get lagg because they have to start up every time..Some apps drain battery so you can grenify them but apps have to run for your phone to be fully exploited!
brunek said:
Lagg is resolved with a factory reset. Dont restore your files and apps just install them again after factory reset! Not all files and apss from ICS have same settings and functionality on JB so that can lead to lagg..
RAM is here to be used,if RAM isnt used then your phone isnt performing his full potential! If RAM isnt used that means that apps in the phone are not working,so when you open them you will get lagg because they have to start up every time..Some apps drain battery so you can grenify them but apps have to run for your phone to be fully exploited!
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I did the same thing(made factory reset without restoring old apps) but the phone is still lagging do not know why.
Btw,can i get to know how much ram usage is normal in jb??
LG 4X HD said:
I did the same thing(made factory reset without restoring old apps) but the phone is still lagging do not know why.
Btw,can i get to know how much ram usage is normal in jb??
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You should install through LGFlash Tool for the cleanest install, after that root and install your apps again. It's a pain in the ass but, the best way... About ram, if it's being used, the phone performance is better but that might reflects in the battery life. I use to close all processes after use the phone and my battery life is very good, the delay to access the apps 1st time after being stopped is about half of a second, soo... I can live with that.
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Seems to me that as long as you have all the default services running, you hit less than some limit of ram, or a period of inactivity, and the OS preemtively starts garbage-collecting programs in mem - among others, the launcher/homescreen app. Makes sense, more or less, to do that. Because it'll free up priority for apps that don't actually receive input (such as the launcher screen).
But on the other hand, homescreens can contain lots of apps, and could take more than 5 seconds to load, so not such a brilliant idea to destroy the cache. Meanwhile, services you never use tend to poll the system on their own, and suddenly they're treated with more attention than the programs you're actually using..
Seems the running programs being replaced by fifty useless services is less of a problem the more free ram you have, though.
And that's why a lot of "garbage" was un-installed on my device (other users made the same).
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RuedasLocas said:
You should install through LGFlash Tool for the cleanest install, after that root and install your apps again. It's a pain in the ass but, the best way...
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Sorry for really dumb question but by lg flash tool,you mean that b2c mobile support tool,available on lg website?
Hi all,
I have been using Moto G2 since October 2014 a year ago I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM 12 and now using CM 13. In the first few days, the performance of the phone is good but as days are passing the performance keeps on slowing down. I'm now using a 32gb sd card also I have moved most of the apps to sd card but still the problem persists.I clean the cache memory from the "Storage and USB" option in settings and have been using Ccleaner for a long time now but I see no improvements what should I do?
Should I switch to any other ROM or is there any app causing the problem?
Or should I revert back to stock ROM?
Problems I'm facing:--
1. Slow loading of settings
2. Apps becoming unresponsive(these were the apps which used to run smoothly).
3. If 5-6 apps are open the home screen takes 10-12 second to load all the shortcut icons.
And there are some other issues.
Pls help me out with this ASAP is anyone else facing the same issue?
Thanks for reading.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
rootb3r said:
Hi all,
I have been using Moto G2 since October 2014 a year ago I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM 12 and now using CM 13. In the first few days, the performance of the phone is good but as days are passing the performance keeps on slowing down. I'm now using a 32gb sd card also I have moved most of the apps to sd card but still the problem persists.I clean the cache memory from the "Storage and USB" option in settings and have been using Ccleaner for a long time now but I see no improvements what should I do?
Should I switch to any other ROM or is there any app causing the problem?
Or should I revert back to stock ROM?
Problems I'm facing:--
1. Slow loading of settings
2. Apps becoming unresponsive(these were the apps which used to run smoothly).
3. If 5-6 apps are open the home screen takes 10-12 second to load all the shortcut icons.
And there are some other issues.
Pls help me out with this ASAP is anyone else facing the same issue?
Thanks for reading.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Hi! After years of suffering with 1 ghz mono core and 403mbs of RAM here are my tips:
What's causing all this is the low amount of RAM available on the Moto G in comparison to other devices. 1gb is really pushing the limits nowadays. So you'll have to compensate for that. The only way to do that is by making it so that you can't multi-task that well but the app you're on atm runs great.
1. Get Kernel Aduitor, go to Low RAM Killer and set it to aggressive. This should already make it a lot faster.
2. Reduce background activities by disabling unused sync operations. Go to Settings>Accounts and then check them all one by one and disable sync for whatever isn't needed.
3. Get a Custom Kernel. Always a good idea.
If this all doesn't help there is one last option. Go to Developer Options and scroll to the bottom. You will find some options for background activities. Set it so that it doesn't keep anything in memory.
If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating.
Also ,you should remove CCleaner and also any task killing app. They cause issues and slow downs.
Best of luck!
Chris.
ehm, try this....
dismount SDcard, maybe its broken, reflash ROM, with full wipe, data, cache, system.
only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard.
chrismin13 said:
Hi! After years of suffering with 1 ghz mono core and 403mbs of RAM here are my tips:
What's causing all this is the low amount of RAM available on the Moto G in comparison to other devices. 1gb is really pushing the limits nowadays. So you'll have to compensate for that. The only way to do that is by making it so that you can't multi-task that well but the app you're on atm runs great.
1. Get Kernel Aduitor, go to Low RAM Killer and set it to aggressive. This should already make it a lot faster.
2. Reduce background activities by disabling unused sync operations. Go to Settings>Accounts and then check them all one by one and disable sync for whatever isn't needed.
3. Get a Custom Kernel. Always a good idea.
If this all doesn't help there is one last option. Go to Developer Options and scroll to the bottom. You will find some options for background activities. Set it so that it doesn't keep anything in memory.
If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating.
Also ,you should remove CCleaner and also any task killing app. They cause issues and slow downs.
Best of luck!
Chris.
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"If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating."
How to investigate which app is consuming a lot of CPU and RAM?
Which custom kernel is the best?
Which kernel would you suggest?
Thannks for the reply.
marianoasis said:
ehm, try this....
dismount SDcard, maybe its broken, reflash ROM, with full wipe, data, cache, system.
only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard.
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"only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard" for how many days should i not use other apps like WhatsApp,reddit,instagram etc.. also i have some educational apps what about them?
Go for Hologen or Extended Kernel @rootb3r
rootb3r said:
"only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard" for how many days should i not use other apps like WhatsApp,reddit,instagram etc.. also i have some educational apps what about them?
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ehm read again what i said. only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard... AND TRY IT WITHOUT SDCARD... where i said DO NOT INSTALL ANY APP?
marianoasis said:
ehm read again what i said. only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard... AND TRY IT WITHOUT SDCARD... where i said DO NOT INSTALL ANY APP?
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Okay bro.
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Okay bro.
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maybe the sdcard its broken, this make the lag, because use RAM to read it
How is everyone doing today?
Ok so I use the Device Care App all the time and recently I noticed that when I click on Memory and it says something like 800MB so i would tap Clear Now. What i noticed that after it is done if I go back and do it again instead it being lower than 800MB its higher, and it takes a few times going back and clearing the memory.
Does anyone have any ideas ?
Thank you all in advance.
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How is everyone doing today?
Ok so I use the Device Care App all the time and recently I noticed that when I click on Memory and it says something like 800MB so i would tap Clear Now. What i noticed that after it is done if I go back and do it again instead it being lower than 800MB its higher, and it takes a few times going back and clearing the memory.
Does anyone have any ideas ?
Thank you all in advance.
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I don't know the "Device Care App" and am sorry that I can't contribute to your observation. Did you ever tried or considered to use
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